Re: [ubuntu-uk] Guidelines for the mailing list (and Reply-To munging)

2007-01-30 Thread James Dalley 
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:36:20 +> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Guidelines for the 
> mailing list (and Reply-To munging)> > Hi James> I think Gmail does not 
> follow some standards anyway. It also makes it > harder for a reply to be 
> bottom posted, which causes difficulties in > technical lists.(such as 
> this).> It is worth the effort to find how to do what you actually wish, (and 
> > I encourage you to consider bottom posting).> alan c> > > James Dalley 
> wrote:> > I am sorry, surely I have to click 'reply' on gmail to reply to 
> the> > point being made by that particular person? but then it clicks to> > 
> the top and not the bottom as requested by the Guidelines. If I> > click 
> 'reply to all' would that not spread the point too wide?> > Advice please- 
> Caroline> > > > On 30/01/07, *Andy* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <mailto:[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]>> wrote:> > > > On 30/01/07, Neil Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:> > > I get messages from two lists in this 
> mailbox; one has Reply-to> > > munging, the other doesn't.> > > > What I find 
> confusing is the Ubuntu and Ubuntu-uk set the reply> > to the> > list (which 
> I prefer), but sounder has the reply-to set to the> > author.> > That always 
> gets me. Why isn't it at least consistent?> > > > Andy> > > > In reply to top 
> post...> > That's the problem, having to manually delete the added lines,> > 
> then changing to the> > bottom of the text.. A slight chore but it makes life 
> much> > easier for others..> > > > James> > ps sorry 4 hot,ail> > > > > > 
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Andy,
 
I think your mistaken with what i actually wrote in the last mail i sent, it 
was just the last
paragraph, starting andy.. I do not use gmail, though i have an account. I can 
see why
it looks like i wrote more of it with the auto added 'James Dalley wrote:' 
Sorry for any confusion..
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Guidelines for the mailing list (and Reply-To munging)

2007-01-30 Thread alan c 
Hi James
I think Gmail does not follow some standards anyway. It also makes it 
harder for a reply to be bottom posted, which causes difficulties in 
technical lists.(such as this).
It is worth the effort to find how to do what you actually wish, (and 
I encourage you to consider bottom posting).
alan c


James Dalley wrote:
> I am sorry, surely I have to click 'reply' on gmail to reply to the
> point being made by that particular person? but then it clicks to
> the top and not the bottom as requested by the Guidelines. If I
> click 'reply to all' would that not spread the point too wide?
> Advice please- Caroline
> 
> On 30/01/07, *Andy* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> 
> On 30/01/07, Neil Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
>  > I get messages from two lists in this mailbox; one has Reply-to
>  > munging, the other doesn't.
> 
> What I find confusing is the Ubuntu and Ubuntu-uk set the reply
> to the
> list (which I prefer), but sounder has the reply-to set to the
> author.
> That always gets me. Why isn't it at least consistent?
> 
> Andy
> 
> In reply to top post...
> That's the problem, having to manually delete the added lines,
> then changing to the
> bottom of the text.. A slight chore but it makes life much
> easier for others..
>  
> James
> ps sorry 4 hot,ail
> 
> 
> Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows LiveT Spaces 
> friends list. Check it out! 
> 
> 


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Guidelines for the mailing list (and Reply-To munging)

2007-01-30 Thread James Dalley 
I am sorry, surely I have to click 'reply' on gmail to reply to the point being 
made by that particular person? but then it clicks to the top and not the 
bottom as requested by the Guidelines. If I click 'reply to all' would that not 
spread the point too wide? Advice please- Caroline 
On 30/01/07, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 30/01/07, Neil Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I get messages from two 
lists in this mailbox; one has Reply-to> munging, the other doesn't. What I 
find confusing is the Ubuntu and Ubuntu-uk set the reply to thelist (which I 
prefer), but sounder has the reply-to set to the author.That always gets me. 
Why isn't it at least consistent?AndyIn reply to top post...
That's the problem, having to manually delete the added lines, then changing to 
the
bottom of the text.. A slight chore but it makes life much easier for others..
 
James
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Guidelines for the mailing list (and Reply-To munging)

2007-01-30 Thread London School of Puppetry 

I am sorry, surely I have to click 'reply' on gmail to reply to the point
being made by that particular person? but then it clicks to the top and not
the bottom as requested by the Guidelines. If I click 'reply to all' would
that not spread the point too wide? Advice please- Caroline

On 30/01/07, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 30/01/07, Neil Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I get messages from two lists in this mailbox; one has Reply-to
> munging, the other doesn't.

What I find confusing is the Ubuntu and Ubuntu-uk set the reply to the
list (which I prefer), but sounder has the reply-to set to the author.
That always gets me. Why isn't it at least consistent?

Andy

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Guidelines for the mailing list (and Reply-To munging)

2007-01-30 Thread Andy 
On 30/01/07, Neil Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I get messages from two lists in this mailbox; one has Reply-to
> munging, the other doesn't.

What I find confusing is the Ubuntu and Ubuntu-uk set the reply to the
list (which I prefer), but sounder has the reply-to set to the author.
That always gets me. Why isn't it at least consistent?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Guidelines for the mailing list (and Reply-To munging)

2007-01-30 Thread Neil Greenwood 
On 29/01/07, Matthew East <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've learnt from bitter experience to look at the addressees on my
> emails.
>
> Matt
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I get messages from two lists in this mailbox; one has Reply-to
munging, the other doesn't. I keep forgetting to look at the
addressees before clicking Send.


Hwyl,
Neil.

P.S. does anyone know how to get Gmail to start the reply below the
message? I rarely top-post, but it's annoying to have to delete the
blank lines it's added above the message and move the cursor *every*
time. :-(
Even Outlook has the option!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Guidelines for the mailing list (and Reply-To munging)

2007-01-29 Thread Matthew East 
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 22:57 +, Toby Smithe wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 22:51 +, Matthew East wrote:
> > Erm no: he's right. Reply-to is set to the list address on list emails.
> > Personally I don't mind it, myself.
> 
> I mind it because it makes me look stupid.

Heh, craftsman, tools, etc.

I've learnt from bitter experience to look at the addressees on my
emails.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Guidelines for the mailing list (and Reply-To munging)

2007-01-29 Thread Toby Smithe 
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 22:51 +, Matthew East wrote:
> Erm no: he's right. Reply-to is set to the list address on list emails.
> Personally I don't mind it, myself.

I mind it because it makes me look stupid.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Guidelines for the mailing list (and Reply-To munging)

2007-01-29 Thread Toby Smithe 
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 22:48 +, Alan Pope wrote:
> Works fine here*. Get a decent mail client ;)
> 
> (*Evolution in Ubuntu).

That's what I use. Click "Reply", trying to reply to the author, not the
list. Read the link. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Guidelines for the mailing list (and Reply-To munging)

2007-01-29 Thread Matthew East 
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 22:48 +, Alan Pope wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 22:46 +, Toby Smithe wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 22:30 +, James Dalley wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > And that was a top post. I'm going to stop spamming now.
> > > > 
> > >  I know as being fairly new to mailing lists that there are rules
> > > that you should adhere to for everyones sake, but most web based
> > > email clients automatically set you up to write at the top. So i think
> > > it 
> > > is important if you are new to read the ettique page posted. 
> > 
> > I'm not new. I'm just guilty. :)
> > 
> > I actually meant to send that as a reply to mdke's post only. However,
> > this list has reply-to munging
> > ( http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html ) which is annoying,
> > and as a result, it got sent to the list. Why is it that this feature is
> > turned on?
> > 
> 
> Works fine here*. Get a decent mail client ;)

Erm no: he's right. Reply-to is set to the list address on list emails.
Personally I don't mind it, myself.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Guidelines for the mailing list (and Reply-To munging)

2007-01-29 Thread Alan Pope 
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 22:46 +, Toby Smithe wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 22:30 +, James Dalley wrote:
> > > 
> > > And that was a top post. I'm going to stop spamming now.
> > > 
> >  I know as being fairly new to mailing lists that there are rules
> > that you should adhere to for everyones sake, but most web based
> > email clients automatically set you up to write at the top. So i think
> > it 
> > is important if you are new to read the ettique page posted. 
> 
> I'm not new. I'm just guilty. :)
> 
> I actually meant to send that as a reply to mdke's post only. However,
> this list has reply-to munging
> ( http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html ) which is annoying,
> and as a result, it got sent to the list. Why is it that this feature is
> turned on?
> 

Works fine here*. Get a decent mail client ;)

(*Evolution in Ubuntu).

Cheers,
Al.




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Guidelines for the mailing list (and Reply-To munging)

2007-01-29 Thread Toby Smithe 
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 22:30 +, James Dalley wrote:
> > 
> > And that was a top post. I'm going to stop spamming now.
> > 
>  I know as being fairly new to mailing lists that there are rules
> that you should adhere to for everyones sake, but most web based
> email clients automatically set you up to write at the top. So i think
> it 
> is important if you are new to read the ettique page posted. 

I'm not new. I'm just guilty. :)

I actually meant to send that as a reply to mdke's post only. However,
this list has reply-to munging
( http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html ) which is annoying,
and as a result, it got sent to the list. Why is it that this feature is
turned on?

My mail was in reference to a conversation that we had on IRC, that I'd
not expect anyone else to recall.
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