Re: [ubuntu-uk] Openfire

2010-10-18 Thread Chris Rowson
 As for choice of server - if you get tired of Openfire I couldn't not
 recommend the one I work on, Prosody. It's in the repos :)


 Matthew can hardly be considered an impartial judge, as he works on
 Prosody.

 I however do not work on Prosody, and can be considered impartial: Prosody
 is the dogs. Trivial to set up and configure, and in my experience bullet
 proof.

 I also believe it has pretty high performance and low resource
 requirements, but since my instance only had 5 users, I am not able to give
 a particularly exhaustive analysis... (but it did easily fit into a VM with
 only 112MB of physical memory that was also running Apache, MySQL, Postfix
 and Dovecot)


As always chaps, thank you for all of your advice :-)

I'll check out Prosody too!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Openfire

2010-10-18 Thread Chris Rowson
Just for anyone interested. There are Windows clients out there
supporting Video over the Jingle protocol (well, none I found
anyway!). There are a few for *nix systems though.

The only one I found that came close was Gajim which supports video in
version 0.14. Unfortunately it looks like the resultant .exe that the
developers have tried to produce using py2exe has a problem.

Chris

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Openfire

2010-10-18 Thread Chris Rowson
 Just for anyone interested. There are Windows clients out there
 supporting Video over the Jingle protocol (well, none I found
 anyway!). There are a few for *nix systems though.

 The only one I found that came close was Gajim which supports video in
 version 0.14. Unfortunately it looks like the resultant .exe that the
 developers have tried to produce using py2exe has a problem.



Doh! that's supposed to read There are *no* Windows clients out there
supporting Video over the Jingle protocol...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Openfire

2010-10-16 Thread Simon Greenwood
Ah, hadn't tried Empathy. Will explore some time.

s/

On 16 Oct 2010 00:47, Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk wrote:

On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 23:11 +0100, Simon Greenwood wrote:
 Only in the same way as you. Jabber and ...
Last time I tried it, Empathy supported video chat with Jabber.

Tony




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Openfire

2010-10-16 Thread Chris Rowson
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Jon Spriggs j...@sprig.gs wrote:
 On 16 October 2010 00:47, Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 23:11 +0100, Simon Greenwood wrote:
 Only in the same way as you. Jabber and video isn't that well
 integrated as yet and there isn't a dedicated client that does that
 apart from maybe Google Talk.

 Simon

  On 15 Oct 2010 22:18, Chris Rowson christopherrow...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Just wondered if anyone on the list is using the Openfire Jabber
  server?
 
  I've been experimenting with it today, trying to get video chat up
  and
  running. Although this works with the Red5 plugin enabled on both
  the
  Openfire server and the Spark client the result isn't great (small
  flash based video windows etc).
 
  What I'd like to do is use any old Jabber compliant client with the
  video handled by the client. I have Googled around this but don't
  seem
  to be able to find any definitive answer.
 
  Anyone know if this is possible?
 
  Chris
 
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 Last time I tried it, Empathy supported video chat with Jabber.

 Tony

 I concur, Empathy supports it.

 (Also, in case anyone is interested, OpenFire is the XMPP server that
 the OneSocialWeb project - a microblogging via XMPP service, backed by
 Vodaphone, are using)
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Thanks for replying Tony, Jon, Simon.

Unfortunately although I get some leeway to put Linux solutions in at
the server level (and I'm testing Openfire on the Ubuntu platform at
the moment) my employer only has Windows on the desktop.

Empathy doesn't have a Windows port at the moment but knowing that
you've got video working with Empathy gives me a bit of hope that I
can get a decent video solution up and running using something or
other.

Thanks,

Chris

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Openfire

2010-10-16 Thread Tony Pursell
On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 18:16 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Jon Spriggs j...@sprig.gs wrote:
  On 16 October 2010 00:47, Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
  On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 23:11 +0100, Simon Greenwood wrote:
  Only in the same way as you. Jabber and video isn't that well
  integrated as yet and there isn't a dedicated client that does that
  apart from maybe Google Talk.
 
  Simon
 
   On 15 Oct 2010 22:18, Chris Rowson christopherrow...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   Just wondered if anyone on the list is using the Openfire Jabber
   server?
  
   I've been experimenting with it today, trying to get video chat up
   and
   running. Although this works with the Red5 plugin enabled on both
   the
   Openfire server and the Spark client the result isn't great (small
   flash based video windows etc).
  
   What I'd like to do is use any old Jabber compliant client with the
   video handled by the client. I have Googled around this but don't
   seem
   to be able to find any definitive answer.
  
   Anyone know if this is possible?
  
   Chris
  
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  Last time I tried it, Empathy supported video chat with Jabber.
 
  Tony
 
  I concur, Empathy supports it.
 
  (Also, in case anyone is interested, OpenFire is the XMPP server that
  the OneSocialWeb project - a microblogging via XMPP service, backed by
  Vodaphone, are using)
  --
  Jon The Nice Guy Spriggs
 
 
 Thanks for replying Tony, Jon, Simon.
 
 Unfortunately although I get some leeway to put Linux solutions in at
 the server level (and I'm testing Openfire on the Ubuntu platform at
 the moment) my employer only has Windows on the desktop.
 
 Empathy doesn't have a Windows port at the moment but knowing that
 you've got video working with Empathy gives me a bit of hope that I
 can get a decent video solution up and running using something or
 other.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chris
 

I thought that you were looking for Ubuntu Linux client solutions.  I
doubt if there will ever be a Windows port of Empathy as it is part of
the Gnome project.  I you do come across a Windows Jabber client that
supports AV, preferably for free, I would love to know so I can get my
brother to install it.

Tony




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Openfire

2010-10-16 Thread Tim Dobson
On 16/10/10 18:16, Chris Rowson wrote:
 Empathy doesn't have a Windows port at the moment but knowing that
 you've got video working with Empathy gives me a bit of hope that I
 can get a decent video solution up and running using something or
 other.

Good luck. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Openfire

2010-10-16 Thread Matthew Wild
On 15 October 2010 22:18, Chris Rowson christopherrow...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just wondered if anyone on the list is using the Openfire Jabber server?


Jabber \o/

 What I'd like to do is use any old Jabber compliant client with the
 video handled by the client. I have Googled around this but don't seem
 to be able to find any definitive answer.


The Openfire Red5 plugin as far as I know (I've never used it myself)
is non-standard so I don't think it will work with any client other
than their own (Spark).

The standard Jabber voice/video protocol (Jingle) is
server-independent, and should work with any client that supports it.
Popular clients I know support it are Empathy, Pidgin, Psi (might be
voice only...), and Gajim. Support in many of them is relatively new,
the latest Gajim with support may not yet be in the repositories yet
for example. Pidgin and Psi both support Windows. Psi might be
voice-only at the moment, I haven't tested it myself.

In theory Jingle-capable clients shall also be able to communicate
with Google Talk clients when Google update it to use the latest
version of the protocol, but we'll have to hold on for now...

As for choice of server - if you get tired of Openfire I couldn't not
recommend the one I work on, Prosody. It's in the repos :)

Good luck,
Matthew

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Openfire

2010-10-16 Thread Matthew Bassett
On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 19:42 +0100, Matthew Wild wrote:

 As for choice of server - if you get tired of Openfire I couldn't not
 recommend the one I work on, Prosody. It's in the repos :)


Matthew can hardly be considered an impartial judge, as he works on
Prosody.

I however do not work on Prosody, and can be considered impartial:
Prosody is the dogs. Trivial to set up and configure, and in my
experience bullet proof.

I also believe it has pretty high performance and low resource
requirements, but since my instance only had 5 users, I am not able to
give a particularly exhaustive analysis... (but it did easily fit into a
VM with only 112MB of physical memory that was also running Apache,
MySQL, Postfix and Dovecot)

Regards,

Matthew

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Openfire

2010-10-15 Thread Simon Greenwood
Only in the same way as you. Jabber and video isn't that well integrated as
yet and there isn't a dedicated client that does that apart from maybe
Google Talk.

Simon

On 15 Oct 2010 22:18, Chris Rowson christopherrow...@gmail.com wrote:

Just wondered if anyone on the list is using the Openfire Jabber server?

I've been experimenting with it today, trying to get video chat up and
running. Although this works with the Red5 plugin enabled on both the
Openfire server and the Spark client the result isn't great (small
flash based video windows etc).

What I'd like to do is use any old Jabber compliant client with the
video handled by the client. I have Googled around this but don't seem
to be able to find any definitive answer.

Anyone know if this is possible?

Chris

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Openfire

2010-10-15 Thread Tony Pursell
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 23:11 +0100, Simon Greenwood wrote:
 Only in the same way as you. Jabber and video isn't that well
 integrated as yet and there isn't a dedicated client that does that
 apart from maybe Google Talk.
 
 Simon
 
  On 15 Oct 2010 22:18, Chris Rowson christopherrow...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
  Just wondered if anyone on the list is using the Openfire Jabber
  server?
  
  I've been experimenting with it today, trying to get video chat up
  and
  running. Although this works with the Red5 plugin enabled on both
  the
  Openfire server and the Spark client the result isn't great (small
  flash based video windows etc).
  
  What I'd like to do is use any old Jabber compliant client with the
  video handled by the client. I have Googled around this but don't
  seem
  to be able to find any definitive answer.
  
  Anyone know if this is possible?
  
  Chris
  
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Last time I tried it, Empathy supported video chat with Jabber.

Tony




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