Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems installing Ubuntu server on an old computer

2006-09-28 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 01:19:51PM +0100, David Morley wrote:
> Also if you wish to partition the Hard Drive the you will need 2
> things Smart Boot Manager and Gparted live cd available here
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=173828
> 

Not really. Gparted is on the Ubuntu Live CD. So you can do the partitioning
with that first then start the installer.

Although I notice now with the Edgy installer gparted is more integrated
with the install process.

Cheers,
Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems installing Ubuntu server on an old computer

2006-09-28 Thread David Morley
On 28/09/06, David Morley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 28/09/06, South Walney Information Management <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A client has an old PC, which was running Windows 98 which had become
> > tired and she lacks the original Windows 98 didks as she bought the
> > machine second hand.  Somewhere along the line she managed to format the
> > hard disk so that Win 98 will no longer boot.
> >
> > I have suggested that this machine is a prime candidate for XUbuntu.
> > Unfortunately, when I tried to install XUbuntu from the CD, I discovered
> > that the BIOS wasn't able to recognise the CD in order to boot from it.
> >
> > I made a Linux rescue floppy and was then able to read the XUbuntu CD
> > but not boot from it.  What I could do was make a floppy from sbm.bin,
> > which would then allow me to boot from the CD-ROM.
> >
> > It was then quickly evident that memory was low because the nascent
> > XUbunto could not access swap space on the hard disk.  It tried gamely,
> > running through keyboard selection and hardware detection, but
> > eventually turned up its little feet with the message
> >
> > <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
> >
> > What I think I need to do is to get a rescue floppy or CD which will
> > enable me to format and repartition the hard disk.  Although I may be wrong.
> >
> > Does anybody have any suggestions?
> >
> What is the spec of the machine?
>
> Also have you tried the alternative install rather than the live
> install or is that what you are doing?
>
Also if you wish to partition the Hard Drive the you will need 2
things Smart Boot Manager and Gparted live cd available here
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=173828



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems installing Ubuntu server on an old computer

2006-09-28 Thread South Walney Information Management
Caroline Ford wrote:
> Have you tried
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows

I think that might be a solution in the long term.  Right now my client
wants her pooter back!

The problem seems to be that once the CD has booted it can no longer see
itself.  (it's a pretty ancient CD-ROM drive)

Anyway, I have managed to put W*nd*ws XP on it and it works, so my
client can at least use that until I think of something else.

Thanks to everybody who offered suggestions.

Rosie


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems installing Ubuntu server on an old computer

2006-09-28 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 28/09/06, South Walney Information Management <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A client has an old PC, which was running Windows 98 which had become
> tired and she lacks the original Windows 98 didks as she bought the
> machine second hand.  Somewhere along the line she managed to format the
> hard disk so that Win 98 will no longer boot.
>
> I have suggested that this machine is a prime candidate for XUbuntu.
> Unfortunately, when I tried to install XUbuntu from the CD, I discovered
> that the BIOS wasn't able to recognise the CD in order to boot from it.
>
> I made a Linux rescue floppy and was then able to read the XUbuntu CD
> but not boot from it.  What I could do was make a floppy from sbm.bin,
> which would then allow me to boot from the CD-ROM.
>
> It was then quickly evident that memory was low because the nascent
> XUbunto could not access swap space on the hard disk.  It tried gamely,
> running through keyboard selection and hardware detection, but
> eventually turned up its little feet with the message
>
> <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
>
> What I think I need to do is to get a rescue floppy or CD which will
> enable me to format and repartition the hard disk.  Although I may be wrong.
>
> Does anybody have any suggestions?
>
> Rosie

Hi Rosie,

In every issue of Linux Format, they have a program called
SmartBootManager that you can write to a floppy. You boot the floppy
then choose the CD drive and it will continue booting from there.

I hope the sbm.bin isn't this program and you can try it instead. I've
used it many times when I've been too lazy to change the BIOS to avoid
the first HDD on this PC.

HTH
Neil.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems installing Ubuntu server on an old computer

2006-09-28 Thread Caroline Ford
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 13:07 +0100, South Walney Information Management
wrote:
> A client has an old PC, which was running Windows 98 which had become
> tired and she lacks the original Windows 98 didks as she bought the
> machine second hand.  Somewhere along the line she managed to format the
> hard disk so that Win 98 will no longer boot.
> 
> I have suggested that this machine is a prime candidate for XUbuntu.
> Unfortunately, when I tried to install XUbuntu from the CD, I discovered
> that the BIOS wasn't able to recognise the CD in order to boot from it.
> 
> I made a Linux rescue floppy and was then able to read the XUbuntu CD
> but not boot from it.  What I could do was make a floppy from sbm.bin,
> which would then allow me to boot from the CD-ROM.
> 
> It was then quickly evident that memory was low because the nascent
> XUbunto could not access swap space on the hard disk.  It tried gamely,
> running through keyboard selection and hardware detection, but
> eventually turned up its little feet with the message
> 
> <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
> 
> What I think I need to do is to get a rescue floppy or CD which will
> enable me to format and repartition the hard disk.  Although I may be wrong.
> 
> Does anybody have any suggestions?
> 
> Rosie

Have you tried
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows

I've just got an ancient laptop and am having similar issues. I get:

isolinux: Cannot boot from this CD. Please use CD2 or try a BIOS update.

I'm using the alternative install CD of Xubuntu as my 80MB machine isn't
beefy enough for the live CD..

I'm going to try the instructions on the wiki as it boots to a dos
prompt.

Caroline


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems installing Ubuntu server on an old computer

2006-09-28 Thread David Morley
On 28/09/06, South Walney Information Management <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A client has an old PC, which was running Windows 98 which had become
> tired and she lacks the original Windows 98 didks as she bought the
> machine second hand.  Somewhere along the line she managed to format the
> hard disk so that Win 98 will no longer boot.
>
> I have suggested that this machine is a prime candidate for XUbuntu.
> Unfortunately, when I tried to install XUbuntu from the CD, I discovered
> that the BIOS wasn't able to recognise the CD in order to boot from it.
>
> I made a Linux rescue floppy and was then able to read the XUbuntu CD
> but not boot from it.  What I could do was make a floppy from sbm.bin,
> which would then allow me to boot from the CD-ROM.
>
> It was then quickly evident that memory was low because the nascent
> XUbunto could not access swap space on the hard disk.  It tried gamely,
> running through keyboard selection and hardware detection, but
> eventually turned up its little feet with the message
>
> <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
>
> What I think I need to do is to get a rescue floppy or CD which will
> enable me to format and repartition the hard disk.  Although I may be wrong.
>
> Does anybody have any suggestions?
>
What is the spec of the machine?

Also have you tried the alternative install rather than the live
install or is that what you are doing?

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