Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Pete Stean:
> I have the firefox plugin for xine, and helix player, and the .ram
> stream is working fine for me - you really don't want to clutter up
> your system with realplayer if you can possibly avoid it.

Actually I do, if I can't get Real streams to play in Totem — 
RealPlayer's UI is actually very good. (And I'd rather use a 
closed-source program with a decent UI than an open-source one with an 
awful UI, all else being equal.)

> Maybe its a
> problem with the codecs that you have (or probably don't have)
> installed on the system?

Ah, I thought installing Helix would also install all of the codecs it 
requires to decode the formats it claims to be able decode.

I've tried replacing totem-gstreamer with totem-xine and adding 
libxine1-plugins; when launching the stream in Totem I get:
“Totem could not play 
'rtsp://rmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/bbc-rbs/rmlive-acl/farm/live24/news/news24_bb.rm?BBC-UID=44160878f377ebafeb19c8cfa020b2b3620130801174b4bf3012ecb8482b&SSO2-UID='.
A problem occurred while loading a library or a decoder (cook.so).”


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Pete Stean
I have the firefox plugin for xine, and helix player, and the .ram
stream is working fine for me - you really don't want to clutter up
your system with realplayer if you can possibly avoid it. Maybe its a
problem with the codecs that you have (or probably don't have)
installed on the system?

Pete

On Nov 12, 2007 12:55 PM, Kris Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On 12/11/2007, Stephen Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:50 +, Kris Marsh wrote:
> > > On Nov 12, 2007 10:45 AM, Greg K Nicholson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > Sean Miller:
> > > > > I'm sure it's all working for me in mplayer... unless it's something
> > > > > else you're referring to... the BBC Website Realaudio streams?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sean
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The stream I'm trying is
> > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/n24/bb/rm/video/news24_bb.ram
> > > > which redirects to an RTSP stream.
> > > >
> > > > That address can be found by following the "Watch Live BBC News 24"
> link
> > > > towards the top of http://news.bbc.co.uk/ then in the resulting pop-up
> > > > following the "Launch in stand alone player" link.
> > > >
> > > > (Incidentally, that should say "stand-alone"; silly BBC.)
> > > >
> > > > MPlayer doesn't like me either:
> > > > "Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: www.bbc.co.uk"
> > > >
> > > > (Which is fair enough because I don't like *it* — every time you use a
> > > > multiple-window interface, one of the HIG gnomes dies. (Wilbur is
> wanted
> > > > by Interpol.))
> > > >
> > > > So: I can't find RealPlayer in Add/Remove or Synaptic; and Totem,
> Helix
> > > > Player, VLC and MPlayer all can't play the stream.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think it's an internet connectivity issue, because Amarok and
> > > > Totem can both play SomaFM's mp3 streams happily. E.g.:
> > > > http://somafm.com/startstream=indiepop.pls
> > > > http://somafm.com/startstream=groovesalad.pls
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi Greg,
> > >
> > > Try:
> > >
> > > mplayer -playlist
> > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/n24/bb/rm/video/news24_bb.ram
> > >
> > > Alternatively, grab the contents of the ram file:
> > >
> > > wget
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/n24/bb/rm/video/news24_bb.ram -qO -
> > >
> rtsp://rmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/bbc-rbs/rmlive-acl/farm/live24/news/news24_bb.rm?BBC-UID=b43783e8129f3b062346e396c0d073415837f35c90302174a4cff63f8234acdb_n&SSO2-UID=
> > >
> > > And bung that directly into mplayer, either *should* work.
> > >
> > > Kris
> > >
> >
> > Also consider installing the mozilla-mplayer plugin (from multiverse),
> > it should then play the stream within the browser. It's not very pretty,
> > but it works.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
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>
> That's always a nightmare, that player gets in the way of loads of the stuff
> I already have players for in firefox. I presonally dont recomend it.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Kris Douglas
On 12/11/2007, Stephen Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:50 +, Kris Marsh wrote:
> > On Nov 12, 2007 10:45 AM, Greg K Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Sean Miller:
> > > > I'm sure it's all working for me in mplayer... unless it's something
> > > > else you're referring to... the BBC Website Realaudio streams?
> > > >
> > > > Sean
> > > >
> > >
> > > The stream I'm trying is
> > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/n24/bb/rm/video/news24_bb.ram
> > > which redirects to an RTSP stream.
> > >
> > > That address can be found by following the "Watch Live BBC News 24"
> link
> > > towards the top of http://news.bbc.co.uk/ then in the resulting pop-up
> > > following the "Launch in stand alone player" link.
> > >
> > > (Incidentally, that should say "stand-alone"; silly BBC.)
> > >
> > > MPlayer doesn't like me either:
> > > "Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: www.bbc.co.uk"
> > >
> > > (Which is fair enough because I don't like *it* — every time you use a
> > > multiple-window interface, one of the HIG gnomes dies. (Wilbur is
> wanted
> > > by Interpol.))
> > >
> > > So: I can't find RealPlayer in Add/Remove or Synaptic; and Totem,
> Helix
> > > Player, VLC and MPlayer all can't play the stream.
> > >
> > > I don't think it's an internet connectivity issue, because Amarok and
> > > Totem can both play SomaFM's mp3 streams happily. E.g.:
> > > http://somafm.com/startstream=indiepop.pls
> > > http://somafm.com/startstream=groovesalad.pls
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
> > >
> >
> > Hi Greg,
> >
> > Try:
> >
> > mplayer -playlist
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/n24/bb/rm/video/news24_bb.ram
> >
> > Alternatively, grab the contents of the ram file:
> >
> > wget
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/n24/bb/rm/video/news24_bb.ram -qO
> -
> > rtsp://rmlive-
> acl.bbc.co.uk/bbc-rbs/rmlive-acl/farm/live24/news/news24_bb.rm?BBC-UID=b43783e8129f3b062346e396c0d073415837f35c90302174a4cff63f8234acdb_n&SSO2-UID=
> >
> > And bung that directly into mplayer, either *should* work.
> >
> > Kris
> >
>
> Also consider installing the mozilla-mplayer plugin (from multiverse),
> it should then play the stream within the browser. It's not very pretty,
> but it works.
>
> Steve
>
>
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That's always a nightmare, that player gets in the way of loads of the stuff
I already have players for in firefox. I *presonally *dont recomend it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Stephen Drake
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:50 +, Kris Marsh wrote:
> On Nov 12, 2007 10:45 AM, Greg K Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sean Miller:
> > > I'm sure it's all working for me in mplayer... unless it's something
> > > else you're referring to... the BBC Website Realaudio streams?
> > >
> > > Sean
> > >
> >
> > The stream I'm trying is
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/n24/bb/rm/video/news24_bb.ram
> > which redirects to an RTSP stream.
> >
> > That address can be found by following the "Watch Live BBC News 24" link
> > towards the top of http://news.bbc.co.uk/ then in the resulting pop-up
> > following the "Launch in stand alone player" link.
> >
> > (Incidentally, that should say "stand-alone"; silly BBC.)
> >
> > MPlayer doesn't like me either:
> > "Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: www.bbc.co.uk"
> >
> > (Which is fair enough because I don't like *it* — every time you use a
> > multiple-window interface, one of the HIG gnomes dies. (Wilbur is wanted
> > by Interpol.))
> >
> > So: I can't find RealPlayer in Add/Remove or Synaptic; and Totem, Helix
> > Player, VLC and MPlayer all can't play the stream.
> >
> > I don't think it's an internet connectivity issue, because Amarok and
> > Totem can both play SomaFM's mp3 streams happily. E.g.:
> > http://somafm.com/startstream=indiepop.pls
> > http://somafm.com/startstream=groovesalad.pls
> >
> >
> > --
> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
> >
> 
> Hi Greg,
> 
> Try:
> 
> mplayer -playlist
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/n24/bb/rm/video/news24_bb.ram
> 
> Alternatively, grab the contents of the ram file:
> 
> wget http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/n24/bb/rm/video/news24_bb.ram 
> -qO -
> rtsp://rmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/bbc-rbs/rmlive-acl/farm/live24/news/news24_bb.rm?BBC-UID=b43783e8129f3b062346e396c0d073415837f35c90302174a4cff63f8234acdb_n&SSO2-UID=
> 
> And bung that directly into mplayer, either *should* work.
> 
> Kris
> 

Also consider installing the mozilla-mplayer plugin (from multiverse),
it should then play the stream within the browser. It's not very pretty,
but it works.

Steve


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Kris Marsh
On Nov 12, 2007 10:45 AM, Greg K Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sean Miller:
> > I'm sure it's all working for me in mplayer... unless it's something
> > else you're referring to... the BBC Website Realaudio streams?
> >
> > Sean
> >
>
> The stream I'm trying is
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/n24/bb/rm/video/news24_bb.ram
> which redirects to an RTSP stream.
>
> That address can be found by following the "Watch Live BBC News 24" link
> towards the top of http://news.bbc.co.uk/ then in the resulting pop-up
> following the "Launch in stand alone player" link.
>
> (Incidentally, that should say "stand-alone"; silly BBC.)
>
> MPlayer doesn't like me either:
> "Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: www.bbc.co.uk"
>
> (Which is fair enough because I don't like *it* — every time you use a
> multiple-window interface, one of the HIG gnomes dies. (Wilbur is wanted
> by Interpol.))
>
> So: I can't find RealPlayer in Add/Remove or Synaptic; and Totem, Helix
> Player, VLC and MPlayer all can't play the stream.
>
> I don't think it's an internet connectivity issue, because Amarok and
> Totem can both play SomaFM's mp3 streams happily. E.g.:
> http://somafm.com/startstream=indiepop.pls
> http://somafm.com/startstream=groovesalad.pls
>
>
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Hi Greg,

Try:

mplayer -playlist
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/n24/bb/rm/video/news24_bb.ram

Alternatively, grab the contents of the ram file:

wget http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/n24/bb/rm/video/news24_bb.ram -qO -
rtsp://rmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/bbc-rbs/rmlive-acl/farm/live24/news/news24_bb.rm?BBC-UID=b43783e8129f3b062346e396c0d073415837f35c90302174a4cff63f8234acdb_n&SSO2-UID=

And bung that directly into mplayer, either *should* work.

Kris

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Sean Miller:
> I'm sure it's all working for me in mplayer... unless it's something 
> else you're referring to... the BBC Website Realaudio streams?
>  
> Sean
> 

The stream I'm trying is
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/n24/bb/rm/video/news24_bb.ram
which redirects to an RTSP stream.

That address can be found by following the “Watch Live BBC News 24” link 
towards the top of http://news.bbc.co.uk/ then in the resulting pop-up 
following the “Launch in stand alone player” link.

(Incidentally, that should say “stand-alone”; silly BBC.)

MPlayer doesn't like me either:
“Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: www.bbc.co.uk”

(Which is fair enough because I don't like *it* — every time you use a 
multiple-window interface, one of the HIG gnomes dies. (Wilbur is wanted 
by Interpol.))

So: I can't find RealPlayer in Add/Remove or Synaptic; and Totem, Helix 
Player, VLC and MPlayer all can't play the stream.

I don't think it's an internet connectivity issue, because Amarok and 
Totem can both play SomaFM's mp3 streams happily. E.g.:
http://somafm.com/startstream=indiepop.pls
http://somafm.com/startstream=groovesalad.pls


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Kris Marsh
On Nov 12, 2007 10:16 AM, Sean Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm sure it's all working for me in mplayer... unless it's something else
> you're referring to... the BBC Website Realaudio streams?
>
> Sean
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You can play real audio stream playlists in mplayer too (like the ones
on the BBC website) - just use the -playlist parameter.

Kris

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Sean Miller
I'm sure it's all working for me in mplayer... unless it's something else
you're referring to... the BBC Website Realaudio streams?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Greg K Nicholson
taufanlubis:
> Yes, you can install realplayer, because it's available for linux.
> But, I suggest to use VLC, you can run almost all multimedia types with it.
> Just download:
> $sudo apt-get install vlc

VLC doesn't seem to want to play it. I just get the error “Unable to 
open 'rtsp://'”.

(Besides which, its UI is atrocious.)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Kris Douglas:
> Currently I don't think the Totem player supports RTSP. You may have to 
> install RealPlayer...

So that's possible in Gutsy then? I can't find it in Add/Remove or Synaptic.

Though Helix Player claims to support RTSP, it doesn't: “This player 
does not have the capabilities to play back this content; This content 
is supported by RealPlayer”. I'll file a bug report about the misleading 
package description (unless someone knows of one already).


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Dougie Richardson:
> This came up on answers -
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/16519

That's not *quite* the same thing: BBC Radio is audio, for which I use 
Amarok; BBC News 24 is video, which Amarok doesn't support.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-11 Thread taufanlubis
Yes, you can install realplayer, because it's available for linux.
But, I suggest to use VLC, you can run almost all multimedia types with it.
Just download:
$sudo apt-get install vlc

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Is it possible to play RealMedia video streams in Gutsy? I'm thinking 
primarily of the BBC News 24 stream.

Ideally I'd like to play them in Totem, but installing RealPlayer would 
be OK too (they really should call it something else - the name 
"RealPlayer" is tainted by the abomination that is the Windows version).


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-11 Thread Dougie Richardson

On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 19:21 +, Kris Douglas wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/11/2007, Greg K Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it possible to play RealMedia video streams in Gutsy? I'm
> thinking
> primarily of the BBC News 24 stream.
> 
> Ideally I'd like to play them in Totem, but installing
> RealPlayer would
> be OK too (they really should call it something else — the
> name 
> "RealPlayer" is tainted by the abomination that is the Windows
> version).
> 
> 
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> Currently I don't think the Totem player supports RTSP. You may have
> to install RealPlayer... 
> 
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This came up on answers -
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-11 Thread Kris Douglas
On 11/11/2007, Greg K Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is it possible to play RealMedia video streams in Gutsy? I'm thinking
> primarily of the BBC News 24 stream.
>
> Ideally I'd like to play them in Totem, but installing RealPlayer would
> be OK too (they really should call it something else — the name
> "RealPlayer" is tainted by the abomination that is the Windows version).
>
>
> --
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Currently I don't think the Totem player supports RTSP. You may have to
install RealPlayer...

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