Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

2016-04-22 Thread William Anderson
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 9:21 PM, Stuart Ward  wrote:
> On 15 April 2016 at 00:35, William Anderson  wrote:
>>
>> From where?! :)
>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262302223446 [snip]

Not too shabby!

I notice Dell are doing base-model Latitude 3450s for £189 ex VAT
right now ... http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/latitude-3450-laptop/pd

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

2016-04-20 Thread Stuart Ward
On 15 April 2016 at 00:35, William Anderson  wrote:

> From where?! :)
>
>
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262302223446?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

2016-04-15 Thread Pete S


On 15 April 2016 14:09:13 BST, Liam Proven  wrote:
>On 15 April 2016 at 01:35, William Anderson  wrote:
>>> I recently got a ex=-corporate thinkpad for under £200, with no OS,
>>> Quad i7 4G memory.
>>
>> From where?! :)
>
>
>Have to admit, that does sound exceptionally good!
>
>I vaguely covet one of these:
>
>http://www.morgancomputers.co.uk/product_detail/14830/Lenovo-IBM-X201-Intel-i5-520M-2-4GHz-12-1-Laptop-4GB-160GB-Windows-7-Pro/
>
>But I already have an X200 so there's really no need.
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Hi, 
I've recently got a Dell inspiron 2nd hand for under £150 really happy with it, 
just worked out of the box (not that I had a box) I upgraded the ram (from 3 to 
8 gb)  wow what a difference that made 

Just my thoughts 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

2016-04-15 Thread Liam Proven
On 15 April 2016 at 01:35, William Anderson  wrote:
>> I recently got a ex=-corporate thinkpad for under £200, with no OS,
>> Quad i7 4G memory.
>
> From where?! :)


Have to admit, that does sound exceptionally good!

I vaguely covet one of these:

http://www.morgancomputers.co.uk/product_detail/14830/Lenovo-IBM-X201-Intel-i5-520M-2-4GHz-12-1-Laptop-4GB-160GB-Windows-7-Pro/

But I already have an X200 so there's really no need.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

2016-04-14 Thread William Anderson
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Stuart Ward  wrote:
> On 7 April 2016 at 16:26, Jim Price  wrote:
>> Any alternatives in a similar price range (£200 after trade-in for this one)
>> would be appreciated too.
>
> I recently got a ex=-corporate thinkpad for under £200, with no OS,
> Quad i7 4G memory.

From where?! :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

2016-04-13 Thread Stuart Ward
On 7 April 2016 at 16:26, Jim Price  wrote:
> Any alternatives in a similar price range (£200 after trade-in for this one)
> would be appreciated too.

I recently got a ex=-corporate thinkpad for under £200, with no OS,
Quad i7 4G memory. You might find a local supplier who accept a check
for something like this. Excellent Linix machines are thinkpads...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

2016-04-08 Thread Jim Price

On 08/04/16 08:15, amunizp wrote:


https://minifree.org/

They use a free Ubuntu derivative (trisquel) so no problem with drivers. (nor 
windows tax). As per paying by check I am sure they accept it (looking at their 
thoughts on paypal).

Do ask, they are a small UK based company and are quick to respond. good luck!


Thanks for that. I'll look into it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

2016-04-08 Thread Jim Price

On 08/04/16 02:07, William Anderson wrote:

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Jim Price  wrote:

Does anyone know of a supplier of Ubuntu laptops who would accept payment by
cheque? I'm told eBuyer don't for this one:


I don't mean to derail the conversation, but if you are paying by
cheque, is this because you do not have a debit card for your bank
account from which you are drawing the cheque?  Have you considered
using a prepaid debit card instead?  I'd say most if not all online
stores will not accept cheques as payment these days due to the long
turnaround time and stronger possibility of payment failure
(debit/credit cards give a virtually immediate payment verification
response to the supplier).


The situation with paying by cheque is out of my control.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

2016-04-08 Thread Paul Waring
On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 02:07:58AM +0100, William Anderson wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Jim Price  wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a supplier of Ubuntu laptops who would accept payment by
> > cheque? I'm told eBuyer don't for this one:
> 
> I don't mean to derail the conversation, but if you are paying by
> cheque, is this because you do not have a debit card for your bank
> account from which you are drawing the cheque?  Have you considered
> using a prepaid debit card instead?  I'd say most if not all online
> stores will not accept cheques as payment these days due to the long
> turnaround time and stronger possibility of payment failure
> (debit/credit cards give a virtually immediate payment verification
> response to the supplier).

I think Jim will struggle to find a shop anywhere, online or offline,
that accepts cheques. They've been pretty much killed off for consumer
to business transactions. A local small PC shop might be willing to
accept cheques, but that's the only place I can think of.

A pre-paid card is one option, though I believe they charge for loading
cash onto them. Another option would be to get a trusted person to buy
the laptop on their card, then reimburse them by cheque, though that
could cause issues later down the line if the laptop has a fault.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

2016-04-07 Thread William Anderson
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Jim Price  wrote:
> Does anyone know of a supplier of Ubuntu laptops who would accept payment by
> cheque? I'm told eBuyer don't for this one:

I don't mean to derail the conversation, but if you are paying by
cheque, is this because you do not have a debit card for your bank
account from which you are drawing the cheque?  Have you considered
using a prepaid debit card instead?  I'd say most if not all online
stores will not accept cheques as payment these days due to the long
turnaround time and stronger possibility of payment failure
(debit/credit cards give a virtually immediate payment verification
response to the supplier).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Laptop

2016-04-07 Thread Nigel Verity
I totally agree that looking for a laptop with Ubuntu pre-installed is probably 
not the best approach.

If it were a straight choice between buying model X with Windows or Ubuntu for 
the same price, then that would be very satisfying from an idealogical 
perspective. Back in the real world, however, you have to pragmatic - 
especially if you are on a modest budget. 

Best just buy the laptop which meets your requirements in terms of spec and 
price then overwrite Windows with Ubuntu as soon as you take it out of the box. 
Unless it is a very new model you will have no problem finding advice on the 
internet as to how well it runs Ubuntu before committing yourself. I've yet to 
find a desktop or laptop from a mainstream manufacturer which wouldn't run 
Ubuntu or, failing that, Mint with little or no configuration using a clean 
install - though I've had one or two issues trying to set up dual boot.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

2016-04-07 Thread James Morrissey
In the vein of buying a laptop without an OS, The 'going linux' podcast
from last week featured someone talking about how he had bought a t420 and
got the specs up to the point that it beats out a new macbook pro.

http://ia801501.us.archive.org/25/items/glp295/glp295.mp3

It seems you can do it for about $500:
http://www.pcliquidations.com/p24202-lenovo-thinkpad-t420-4236?utm_source=google_medium=cse_term=24202=Cj0KEQjwipi4BRD7t6zGl6m75IgBEiQAn7CfF1x3S52kwTA04y3NxyHEcO1sN8yU4JG8TzmO89J_aawaAmhq8P8HAQ

Add a solid state drive, extra HDD in the media slot and some RAM and you
should be close to $500. You could keep the price a little lower if you
forewent on some of those specs.

Warning: in the podcast he favours Kali and Elementary, and complains that
Unity is a bit too slow.

j

On 7 April 2016 at 12:49, Wechsel Wirkung 
wrote:

> Hi Jim,
>
> just buy one laptop without an os maybe. I buyed on notebooksbilliger just
> an acer for 500 euro and
>
> installed just ubuntu by myself and i dont use ubuntu so long. its  much
> cheaper and easy
>
> Jim Price  hat am 7. April 2016 um 18:39
> geschrieben:
>
>
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> I'm still using 12.04 - I thought it was supported for 5 years, so
> there's another year to go. Also, I would expect a machine which runs
> 12.04 would manage 16.04 without too much trouble, and might be cheaper
> as it has an older OS on it. There's not much else around at the £200 mark.
>
> Jim
>
> On 07/04/16 17:31, Tony Pursell wrote:
>
> Hi Jim
>
> I wouldn't by that one as one comment say it comes with 12.04 (which is out
> of support) and you can't easily update it because of the driver for the
> Realtek wifi card.
>
> I would go for any other computer that will run 14.04 or 16.04 out of the
> box, whether or not I had to overwrite the Windows on it. You don't save
> much money by going for one with Ubuntu on it.
>
> Tony
>
> On 7 April 2016 at 16:26, Jim Price  wrote:
>
> >> Does anyone know of a supplier of Ubuntu laptops who would accept
> payment>> by cheque? I'm told eBuyer don't for this one:
> >>
> >> http://www.ebuyer.com/705955-hp-455-quad-core-laptop-l8b56es
> >>
> >> Any alternatives in a similar price range (£200 after trade-in for this
> >> one) would be appreciated too.
> >>
> >> JimP
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

2016-04-07 Thread Wechsel Wirkung
Hi Jim,

just buy one laptop without an os maybe. I buyed on notebooksbilliger just an
acer for 500 euro and

installed just ubuntu by myself and i dont use ubuntu so long. its  much cheaper
and easy

> 
> Jim Price  hat am 7. April 2016 um 18:39
> geschrieben:
> 
> 
> Hi Tony,
> 
> I'm still using 12.04 - I thought it was supported for 5 years, so
> there's another year to go. Also, I would expect a machine which runs
> 12.04 would manage 16.04 without too much trouble, and might be cheaper
> as it has an older OS on it. There's not much else around at the £200
> mark.
> 
> Jim
> 
> On 07/04/16 17:31, Tony Pursell wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > Hi Jim
> > 
> > I wouldn't by that one as one comment say it comes with 12.04 (which
> > is out
> > of support) and you can't easily update it because of the driver for
> > the
> > Realtek wifi card.
> > 
> > I would go for any other computer that will run 14.04 or 16.04 out
> > of the
> > box, whether or not I had to overwrite the Windows on it. You don't
> > save
> > much money by going for one with Ubuntu on it.
> > 
> > Tony
> > 
> > On 7 April 2016 at 16:26, Jim Price  wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> >> Does anyone know of a supplier of Ubuntu laptops who would accept
> >> payment>> by cheque? I'm told eBuyer don't for this one:
> >>
> >> http://www.ebuyer.com/705955-hp-455-quad-core-laptop-l8b56es
> >>
> >> Any alternatives in a similar price range (£200 after trade-in for this
> >> one) would be appreciated too.
> >>
> >> JimP
> >>
> >>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

2016-04-07 Thread Tony Pursell
Sorry, you are right, it's good for another year.  But there is still the
issue with the wifi.

On 7 April 2016 at 17:39, Jim Price  wrote:

> Hi Tony,
>
> I'm still using 12.04 - I thought it was supported for 5 years, so there's
> another year to go. Also, I would expect a machine which runs 12.04 would
> manage 16.04 without too much trouble, and might be cheaper as it has an
> older OS on it. There's not much else around at the £200 mark.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On 07/04/16 17:31, Tony Pursell wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim
>>
>> I wouldn't by that one as one comment say it comes with 12.04 (which is
>> out
>> of support) and you can't easily update it because of the driver for the
>> Realtek wifi card.
>>
>> I would go for any other computer that will run 14.04 or 16.04 out of the
>> box, whether or not I had to overwrite the Windows on it.  You don't save
>> much money by going for one with Ubuntu on it.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On 7 April 2016 at 16:26, Jim Price  wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know of a supplier of Ubuntu laptops who would accept payment
>>> by cheque? I'm told eBuyer don't for this one:
>>>
>>> http://www.ebuyer.com/705955-hp-455-quad-core-laptop-l8b56es
>>>
>>> Any alternatives in a similar price range (£200 after trade-in for this
>>> one) would be appreciated too.
>>>
>>> JimP
>>>
>>>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

2016-04-07 Thread Jim Price

Hi Tony,

I'm still using 12.04 - I thought it was supported for 5 years, so 
there's another year to go. Also, I would expect a machine which runs 
12.04 would manage 16.04 without too much trouble, and might be cheaper 
as it has an older OS on it. There's not much else around at the £200 mark.


Jim

On 07/04/16 17:31, Tony Pursell wrote:

Hi Jim

I wouldn't by that one as one comment say it comes with 12.04 (which is out
of support) and you can't easily update it because of the driver for the
Realtek wifi card.

I would go for any other computer that will run 14.04 or 16.04 out of the
box, whether or not I had to overwrite the Windows on it.  You don't save
much money by going for one with Ubuntu on it.

Tony

On 7 April 2016 at 16:26, Jim Price  wrote:


Does anyone know of a supplier of Ubuntu laptops who would accept payment
by cheque? I'm told eBuyer don't for this one:

http://www.ebuyer.com/705955-hp-455-quad-core-laptop-l8b56es

Any alternatives in a similar price range (£200 after trade-in for this
one) would be appreciated too.

JimP


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop

2016-04-07 Thread Tony Pursell
Hi Jim

I wouldn't by that one as one comment say it comes with 12.04 (which is out
of support) and you can't easily update it because of the driver for the
Realtek wifi card.

I would go for any other computer that will run 14.04 or 16.04 out of the
box, whether or not I had to overwrite the Windows on it.  You don't save
much money by going for one with Ubuntu on it.

Tony

On 7 April 2016 at 16:26, Jim Price  wrote:

> Does anyone know of a supplier of Ubuntu laptops who would accept payment
> by cheque? I'm told eBuyer don't for this one:
>
> http://www.ebuyer.com/705955-hp-455-quad-core-laptop-l8b56es
>
> Any alternatives in a similar price range (£200 after trade-in for this
> one) would be appreciated too.
>
> JimP
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