Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 08:22 +0100, Tony Arnold wrote: > > baz wrote: > > > > Any idea why NVU is not in the repositories for Feisty? > > It's been dropped from the repositories as it is "Umaintained by upstream."[1] It hasn't been updated since 28-06-2005 however there is an unofficial bug-fix release called KompoZer[2], but that hasn't been updated since 2006-07-26. [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=393065 [2] http://kompozer.net/ Kind Regards, Dave Walker signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
baz wrote: > Thanks that seemed to go ok, only lost Nvu, which I've now installed > from their site. Any idea why NVU is not in the repositories for Feisty? Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 19:40 +0100, Kris Marsh wrote: > On 4/17/07, baz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, what's the best way to upgrade? I'm running Edgy at the mo. > > > > Baz > > Hi Baz, > > Here is the method I used, around a month ago. I'm sure the upgrade > will be fine for you, but the usual disclaimers apply. There's always > that remote possibility that your box doesn't boot back up after > upgrading. > > > - From Gnome, press + > - Type the following into the run box: > gksudo 'update-manager -c -d' > - Click "Upgrade" in the top right corner of the Update Manager. > - Wait a minute or so for it to do some magic. > - Click "Upgrade". > > Hope this helps. > > Kris > Thanks that seemed to go ok, only lost Nvu, which I've now installed from their site. Baz -- + http://walkertopia.com Free Multi User Dungeon on line game: telnet walkertopia.com 4040 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
Stating the obvious, I know, but just a word of warning: I've had updates to a new release fail miserably, so be sure to back up your data beforehand in case the short cut turns out to be anything but. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
> I got this by typing update-manager --help in a terminal: > > Usage: update-manager [options] Thanks Eamonn - I guess I should have thought of that :-P !! Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
On 4/17/07, ted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - From Gnome, press + > > - Type the following into the run box: > > gksudo 'update-manager -c -d' [snip] > Do you have to edit the sources.list to point to the new release ? No. update-manager does that for you automatically. -Eamonn -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
On 4/17/07, Chris Rowson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (gksu "update-manager -c" ) > > Hey. > > Can anyone point we towards any documentation for the switches used > after update-manager ? -c -d etc I got this by typing update-manager --help in a terminal: Usage: update-manager [options] Options: -h, --helpshow this help message and exit -c, --check-dist-upgrades Check if a new distribution release is available -d, --devel-release Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is possible -p, --proposedTry to run a dist-upgrade --dist-upgrade, --dist-ugprade Try to run a dist-upgrade -Eamonn -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
> (gksu "update-manager -c" ) Hey. Can anyone point we towards any documentation for the switches used after update-manager ? -c -d etc Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
Kris Marsh wrote: > On 4/17/07, baz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So, what's the best way to upgrade? I'm running Edgy at the mo. >> >> Baz >> > > Hi Baz, > > Here is the method I used, around a month ago. I'm sure the upgrade > will be fine for you, but the usual disclaimers apply. There's always > that remote possibility that your box doesn't boot back up after > upgrading. > > > - From Gnome, press + > - Type the following into the run box: > gksudo 'update-manager -c -d' > - Click "Upgrade" in the top right corner of the Update Manager. > - Wait a minute or so for it to do some magic. > - Click "Upgrade". > - Go grab a hot beverage, for me it was a 800MB download, and then > another 30 mins or so upgrade. > > > > Do you have to edit the sources.list to point to the new release ? > -- Regards Ted Wager G3TPI High Peak UK Using Ubuntu Linux -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
B-3 wrote: > > I want to upgrade to Fiesty, I don't want to do a clean install because > I've installed a fair bit of stuff and I don't want to go through that > again. > > So, what's the best way to upgrade? I'm running Edgy at the mo. > > Baz > I would expect it to be the same as the Dapper > Edgy upgrade described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades (gksu "update-manager -c" ) I upgraded to Edgy using this method wthout problems, however the total amount the upgrade downloaded was around 1GB Hope this helps Rob -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/upgrade-to-Fiesty-tf3595810.html#a10044247 Sent from the ubuntu-uk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 19:10 +0100, baz wrote: > I want to upgrade to Fiesty, I don't want to do a clean install because > I've installed a fair bit of stuff and I don't want to go through that > again. > > So, what's the best way to upgrade? I'm running Edgy at the mo. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
On 4/17/07, baz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, what's the best way to upgrade? I'm running Edgy at the mo. > > Baz Hi Baz, Here is the method I used, around a month ago. I'm sure the upgrade will be fine for you, but the usual disclaimers apply. There's always that remote possibility that your box doesn't boot back up after upgrading. - From Gnome, press + - Type the following into the run box: gksudo 'update-manager -c -d' - Click "Upgrade" in the top right corner of the Update Manager. - Wait a minute or so for it to do some magic. - Click "Upgrade". - Go grab a hot beverage, for me it was a 800MB download, and then another 30 mins or so upgrade. Now before you do this (and I hope you've read to the bottom of the email before starting ;-)), there is another option. Use the command line: dpkg --get-selections > savedprograms Save this 'savedprograms' file safe - maybe email it to yourself. On your new install, you can run: sudo dpkg --set-selections < savedprograms sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade This will install all of your previous programs. If you have your home directory on it's own partition, and can preserve it, then you're left with a system that is very close to you had previously. Hope this helps. Kris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
On 21/12/06, David Pashley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 20, 2006 at 23:34, Llywelyn Owen praised the llamas by saying: > > From what I've read about upgrading Ubuntu to the next release it seems best > > (more reliable and faster) to do a clean install. From this "reading between > > the posts" about upgrading Ubuntu, isn't it time to have a unified one click > > procedure of data backup from the currently installed version of Ubuntu that > > can be restored without hassle in any new version? By data I mean user > > created files, settings, and preferences, email settings etc. I understand > > that this would mean a certain amount of discipline from application > > developers but if applications are drawn from official repositories this > > could be a prerequisite. OK, maybe a pie in the sky idea but an useful one > > stop in house backup procedure is surely overdue and would be a major > > selling point for (Ubuntu or indeed any distro). Dare I suggest that any > > Linux backup of this nature would be transportable to other distros as well? > > > > Desktop graphics libraries, interfaces, and a whole host of other bits and > > pieces are being standardized so it can't be beyond the whit of the > > community come up with a solution to this regular problem - can it? > > Yes, it was solved many many years ago. Store /home on a separate > partition and all will be well. > David, I think Llywelyn was including changes in /etc as well as /home. So your solution isn't sufficient. I also found that storing /home on a separate partition isn't sufficient: I don't have access to the list of packages that were previously installed, since that's in /var/lib/dpkg. I also don't have the program I installed from source into /usr/local... It's a good job I tarred the / partition up before nuking it! Hwyl, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
On Dec 20, 2006 at 23:34, Llywelyn Owen praised the llamas by saying: > From what I've read about upgrading Ubuntu to the next release it seems best > (more reliable and faster) to do a clean install. From this "reading between > the posts" about upgrading Ubuntu, isn't it time to have a unified one click > procedure of data backup from the currently installed version of Ubuntu that > can be restored without hassle in any new version? By data I mean user > created files, settings, and preferences, email settings etc. I understand > that this would mean a certain amount of discipline from application > developers but if applications are drawn from official repositories this > could be a prerequisite. OK, maybe a pie in the sky idea but an useful one > stop in house backup procedure is surely overdue and would be a major > selling point for (Ubuntu or indeed any distro). Dare I suggest that any > Linux backup of this nature would be transportable to other distros as well? > > Desktop graphics libraries, interfaces, and a whole host of other bits and > pieces are being standardized so it can't be beyond the whit of the > community come up with a solution to this regular problem - can it? Yes, it was solved many many years ago. Store /home on a separate partition and all will be well. > > Regards > > Llywelyn Owen -- David Pashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
From what I've read about upgrading Ubuntu to the next release it seems best (more reliable and faster) to do a clean install. From this "reading between the posts" about upgrading Ubuntu, isn't it time to have a unified one click procedure of data backup from the currently installed version of Ubuntu that can be restored without hassle in any new version? By data I mean user created files, settings, and preferences, email settings etc. I understand that this would mean a certain amount of discipline from application developers but if applications are drawn from official repositories this could be a prerequisite. OK, maybe a pie in the sky idea but an useful one stop in house backup procedure is surely overdue and would be a major selling point for (Ubuntu or indeed any distro). Dare I suggest that any Linux backup of this nature would be transportable to other distros as well? Desktop graphics libraries, interfaces, and a whole host of other bits and pieces are being standardized so it can't be beyond the whit of the community come up with a solution to this regular problem - can it? Regards Llywelyn Owen -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
Neil Greenwood wrote: > The downside is that I still need to reinstall some extra packages... > and I forgot to output a list before I formatted the partition - > anyone know where in the filesystem the list is stored, since I still > have a zipped tar as backup? Try taking a look at /var/lib/dpkg/status its not as simple as dpkg --get-selections. -- Chris Smith http://users.toonarmy.mine.nu/~chris/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
I've had a few problems when upgrading in the past. I went all the way from Hoary to Edgy on this current machine, and finally gave up last week and did a reinstall from scratch of Edgy. The main problem I had with the upgraded Edgy was that apt/dpkg/etc. claimed I had Firefox 2 installed and not 1.5, but the running Firefox was definitely still 1.5. It's now working as 2.0 properly after I nuked everything. The downside is that I still need to reinstall some extra packages... and I forgot to output a list before I formatted the partition - anyone know where in the filesystem the list is stored, since I still have a zipped tar as backup? Hwyl, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 13:41 +, Michael Wood wrote: > Ted Wager wrote: > > tim matthews wrote: > > > >> I don't think you can update from dapper to Feisty, you can only update > >> from edgy to feisty (so I think). > >> > I'm pretty sure it's possible to jump a release for upgrading, just make > sure you use the upgrade manager. The repositories will be the same > addresses but changing dapper to feisty You can, but it isn't recommended. Quoting [0] "Skipping versions is not advised." > >> and what's the point of using feisty? at this point, feisty should only > >> be used by developpers who can fix things when they go wrong. > >> > >> > I'm running feisty but i'm not a developer, developers only find out the > things they need to fix if people test the release and report the bugs. Ditto. I have feisty on my main desktop, but I am somewhat more careful about how I manage it - picking and choosing what I upgrade. I am not suggesting others do this, it's just what I do. I also have numerous Virtual machines running all the previous versions which I user for screencasting [1], but also for testing stuff. For example when people ask questions in the support tracker [2] I sometimes spark up a VM running an older release to make sure what I am telling someone is correct. Cheers, Al. [0] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes [1] http://quickones.org/ [2] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+tickets -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
Ted Wager wrote: > tim matthews wrote: > >> I don't think you can update from dapper to Feisty, you can only update from >> edgy to feisty (so I think). >> I'm pretty sure it's possible to jump a release for upgrading, just make sure you use the upgrade manager. The repositories will be the same addresses but changing dapper to feisty >> and what's the point of using feisty? at this point, feisty should only >> be used by developpers who can fix things when they go wrong. >> >> I'm running feisty but i'm not a developer, developers only find out the things they need to fix if people test the release and report the bugs. -- /\/\ichael [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] \/\/ood [ http://michaelwood.me.uk ] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
tim matthews wrote: > I don't think you can update from dapper to Feisty, you can only update > from edgy to feisty (so I think). > > and what's the point of using feisty? at this point, feisty should only > be used by developpers who can fix things when they go wrong. > > Ted Wager wrote: > >> I have a small partition that I used for Ubuntu testing..It is now up to >> dapper.. >> Anyone tried upgrading Dapper to Fiesty and if so how did it go and >> what are the repo addresses...I am not particularly bothered if it fails >> as I can always install from cd but would like to give the upgrade a whirl >> >> >> > > I am only doing it out of interest..I know I can upgrade to Edgy but just wanted to know if the Feisty upgrade was possible after that -- Regards Ted Wager High Peak UK Using Ubuntu Linux -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
I don't think you can update from dapper to Feisty, you can only update from edgy to feisty (so I think). and what's the point of using feisty? at this point, feisty should only be used by developpers who can fix things when they go wrong. Ted Wager wrote: > I have a small partition that I used for Ubuntu testing..It is now up to > dapper.. > Anyone tried upgrading Dapper to Fiesty and if so how did it go and > what are the repo addresses...I am not particularly bothered if it fails > as I can always install from cd but would like to give the upgrade a whirl > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
