Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Bay Area: Ubuntu Tables at Picn*x 19 - The Linux 19th Anniversary Picnic August 21, 2010

2010-08-14 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Elizabeth Krumbach l...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 It's August already! And for folks in the Bay Area that means it's
 time to get ready for the annual Linux Picnic!

 In it's 19th year, it'll be held on Saturday, August 21st at Sunnyvale
 Baylands Park, details can be found here:

 http://www.linuxpicnic.org/twiki/bin/view/Picnix19/

 Grant Bowman has been working with the organizational volunteers and
 has secured two tables at the picnic for us hang out at and show off
 Ubuntu, we'll be at tables 3H  3I, as seen on the layout map:

 http://www.linuxpicnic.org/twiki/bin/view/Picnix19/Picnx19TableLayout

 I've gone ahead and created a wiki page for our planning so feel free
 to update it and if you're interested in volunteering to help please
 let me know or sign up there:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Picnix19

Only one week away!

I've gone ahead and updated the wiki page for other things that folks
are bringing for our Ubuntu California table. If you're interested in
bringing anything, please update the wiki page soon or let me know.

I've also created a loco directory event where you can sign up to
volunteer for our table:
http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/273/detail/

Note: You must also sign up for the picnic itself, so the Linux Picnic
folks can print you a name tag... and more importantly give you food!
Sign up here if you're attending:
http://www.linuxpicnic.org/guests/rsvp.pl

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[Ubuntu-US-CA] San Diego Ubuntu Hour! All Interested San Diegans Ping Me Back!

2010-08-14 Thread Kevin DuBois
Hey all,
I'm looking into get a San Diego Ubuntu Hour going around the greater San
Diego area! I'm thinking that we do this 'coffee house coder' style. We had
similar events back in Michigan that seemed to always work out well.

If you are in San Diego, and would be willing to meet once a month for an
Ubuntu Hour, PLEASE EMAIL ME BACK! :) We need to get about half a 3-6 'core'
people that would come every month.

Why?
1. Getting a new open source pet project going
2. Getting involved in an existing OSS project
3. Getting started doing technical/translation/bug/community/documentation
work for Ubuntu
4. Technical networking in meatspace!
5. Answering technical questions for people who are having trouble
installing/configuring Ubuntu

Where?
I'm new to the area, so I'm scouting out decent coffee shops where the
management would be open to this type of deal. I'm thinking a good place to
meet would be the downtown area.

When?
I'm thinking once a month would probably be a good frequency at which to
meet. Probably a Mon/Tues/Wed night after the workday would be a decent day
to meet. (Doesn't interfere with social schedules as much)

How?
I have a few ideas to drum up interest, including fliers around downtown and
the college campuses

This plan is still in its infancy, suggestions/advice is always welcome.

Cheers,
Kevin DuBois
kdub...@gmail.com
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] San Diego Ubuntu Hour! All Interested San Diegans Ping Me Back!

2010-08-14 Thread Bruce Mohler
Kevin,

I'm interested.  My only constraints are that I live in north Escondido and
am very busy.  But I'd love to see something for Ubuntu start up.

You might consider contacting the local San Diego Barcamp site (
http://www.barcampsd.org/) as well and seeing if there are interested people
there.  Barcamp has weekends twice a year and several of them tend to be
Linux oriented...

Bruce

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Kevin DuBois kdub...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey all,
 I'm looking into get a San Diego Ubuntu Hour going around the greater San
 Diego area! I'm thinking that we do this 'coffee house coder' style. We had
 similar events back in Michigan that seemed to always work out well.

 If you are in San Diego, and would be willing to meet once a month for an
 Ubuntu Hour, PLEASE EMAIL ME BACK! :) We need to get about half a 3-6 'core'
 people that would come every month.

 Why?
 1. Getting a new open source pet project going
 2. Getting involved in an existing OSS project
 3. Getting started doing technical/translation/bug/community/documentation
 work for Ubuntu
 4. Technical networking in meatspace!
 5. Answering technical questions for people who are having trouble
 installing/configuring Ubuntu

 Where?
 I'm new to the area, so I'm scouting out decent coffee shops where the
 management would be open to this type of deal. I'm thinking a good place to
 meet would be the downtown area.

 When?
 I'm thinking once a month would probably be a good frequency at which to
 meet. Probably a Mon/Tues/Wed night after the workday would be a decent day
 to meet. (Doesn't interfere with social schedules as much)

 How?
 I have a few ideas to drum up interest, including fliers around downtown
 and the college campuses

 This plan is still in its infancy, suggestions/advice is always welcome.

 Cheers,
 Kevin DuBois
 kdub...@gmail.com


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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] San Diego Ubuntu Hour! All Interested San Diegans Ping Me Back!

2010-08-14 Thread David Kaiser
Kevin, this is a great idea - San Diego is a great area to do this.  I
hope you find a good suitable location, this is always the challenge for
organizing Linux events.   I live too far North to consider driving out
for weeknight-type schedules (two hours drive, one-way, for a two-hour
meet is hard to figure )  For the same reason I haven't been able to
make the Ubuntu night in O.C, and also the reason why we might have to
make one for the Inland Empire :)

Regarding Bruce's comments on Barcamp, I'd really make the opposite
recommendation.

Barcamp is not Linux, it's not Ubuntu Linux, it's not open-source,
it's not even actually about computing...  barcamp is only about
whatever barcamp is about.  It's an un-conference.

Here's the general impression (my OPINION only, your mileage may
vary...)  You go, you network, meet other individuals, look to generate
some common interest for a meeting time slot (you'll see sticky notes
on a wall next to time slots)  so let's say you go and want to talk
about Ubuntu Linux for 1 hour and you've found 4 or 5 other people who
will do this too.  So you write your name down on the sticky note for
that time.

Lets say then that there are 15 more people that want to talk about some
ASP.Net program they want to sell for tracking your SEO stats.  They can
just walk over and put their sticky note on your time slot.  Nobody
cares.  Nobody is in charge.  It's an unconference.

Additional concerns:

- barcamp is loud, random, hectic... not the kind of place you could
accomplish items #3 or #5 in your list below - as they need a
quiet/dedicated environment where people can work on their laptops, etc.

- Barcamp is supposedly by definition, a free event for everyone, but you
end up seeing all the requests for (and prominently placed webbanners
for) corporate sponsorship.  Do you want to hold an Ubuntu event at a
camp that is sponsored by Microsoft.  I don't.  (I don't believe the
Ubuntu policies, in general, are open to corporate sponsorship/logos of
even burning CD's, etc.)

- A barcamp event may be lacking in proper network security.  While you
also don't know much about the setup (DSL connection, firewall settings
or lack thereof, or Wi-Fi security settings) you find at a coffee
house...  at least the network was installed/paid/maintained through the
efforts of the proprietor that you are supporting (and you should ask
them basic questions about use of the wireless network if they allow
your meeting there.)  With any barcamp event, the network has to be
established by someone who is an organizer or volunteer of the barcamp. 
I personally find this to be a security problem.  At an event like
Defcon I expect people to be probing laptops, capturing packets, etc. 
at a Linux-focused event where you are wanting to help people new to
Ubuntu Linux, you want to know that nothing malicious is going on when
you're helping them setup their PPA or something.

Where is a barcamp network security on the scale between the friendly
meetup you proposed and something like Defcon.  Well, you don't know -
and you won't.  It's a relevant question to ask.


OK - i've made my points.  :)  take them with a grain of salt, use as
you wish.  Best of luck with organizing an event.  I hope you find San
Diego a great place to start a Ubuntu Hour.  I may try to make it to the
OC one, or this one someday, (if it's not at a Barcamp of course)

Thanks,
David


On 8/15/2010, Bruce Mohler brucemoh...@gmail.com wrote:

Kevin,

I'm interested.  My only constraints are that I live in north Escondido and
am very busy.  But I'd love to see something for Ubuntu start up.

You might consider contacting the local San Diego Barcamp site (
http://www.barcampsd.org/) as well and seeing if there are interested people
there.  Barcamp has weekends twice a year and several of them tend to be
Linux oriented...

Bruce

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Kevin DuBois kdub...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey all,
 I'm looking into get a San Diego Ubuntu Hour going around the greater San
 Diego area! I'm thinking that we do this 'coffee house coder' style. We had
 similar events back in Michigan that seemed to always work out well.

 If you are in San Diego, and would be willing to meet once a month for an
 Ubuntu Hour, PLEASE EMAIL ME BACK! :) We need to get about half a 3-6 'core'
 people that would come every month.

 Why?
 1. Getting a new open source pet project going
 2. Getting involved in an existing OSS project
 3. Getting started doing technical/translation/bug/community/documentation
 work for Ubuntu
 4. Technical networking in meatspace!
 5. Answering technical questions for people who are having trouble
 installing/configuring Ubuntu

 Where?
 I'm new to the area, so I'm scouting out decent coffee shops where the
 management would be open to this type of deal. I'm thinking a good place to
 meet would be the downtown area.

 When?
 I'm thinking once a month would probably be a good frequency at which to
 meet. Probably a Mon/Tues/Wed 

Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] San Diego Ubuntu Hour! All Interested San Diegans Ping Me Back!

2010-08-14 Thread Nathan Haines
On 08/14/2010 09:23 PM, David Kaiser wrote:
 Regarding Bruce's comments on Barcamp, I'd really make the opposite
 recommendation.

Well, good suggestions but Bruce's suggestion about BarCamp was that it 
might be a good way to get in touch with people who had experience with 
get-togethers or interest in Ubuntu and in that limited scope I don't 
think it's bad advice.  :)

I think it'll be good to have another Ubuntu Hour in San Diego and I 
hope others will put some together as well.  I know I'll definitely try 
to make it to a San Diego UH if it's at all possible with the commute.

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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] San Diego Ubuntu Hour! All Interested San Diegans Ping Me Back!

2010-08-14 Thread David Kaiser
Hi Nathan, I actually do agree with that premise too - advocacy of
Ubuntu Linux in a larger forum, so to speak.  There could be many forums
(Barcamp included) which could be considered candidates for that, and
some good potential places for personal networking with techie types.

I know my last e-mail was getting long and I wasn't trying to start
debate - but I do think your comments are correct and I definitely
should have stated that premise in my original response.

I should have also added one other negative point to my last e-mail- a
member of our LUG registered for the last Barcamp in San Diego, drove
down there, only to be refused admittance because one of the organizers
has a personal grievance with him.  It just reinforced, to me at least,
about what is wrong about Barcamp and it's lacking of structure and
organization.

I still recommend to Kevin to startup a real Ubuntu Hour...  :)


Thanks,
David

By the way Nathan, I may be able to make it to the August 26th Ubuntu
Hour in Lake Forest - just curious - do you ever go over the (1) hour
?  I'm going to be headed somewhere near there around 8pm so I might
stay longer (2 hrs) as Panera Bread is open.



On 08/14/2010 09:45 PM, Nathan Haines wrote:
 On 08/14/2010 09:23 PM, David Kaiser wrote:
 Regarding Bruce's comments on Barcamp, I'd really make the opposite
 recommendation.
 
 Well, good suggestions but Bruce's suggestion about BarCamp was that it 
 might be a good way to get in touch with people who had experience with 
 get-togethers or interest in Ubuntu and in that limited scope I don't 
 think it's bad advice.  :)
 
 I think it'll be good to have another Ubuntu Hour in San Diego and I 
 hope others will put some together as well.  I know I'll definitely try 
 to make it to a San Diego UH if it's at all possible with the commute.
 


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