Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] San Francisco Ubuntu Hour, Tuesday, September 28th @ 6PM

2010-09-28 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Elizabeth Krumbach
 wrote:
> Just a reminder that, I'll be hosting an Ubuntu Hour Tuesday (on the
> 4th Tuesday of the month), September 28th at The Roastery in San
> Francisco.

In case it changes anything for anyone, I'm happy to report that I
received my latest order from the Ubuntu store which included a dozen
sheets of the new branding Ubuntu stickers! So I'll have a few to give
out tonight :)

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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Ok, I am not sure how to put this

2010-09-28 Thread PR
I have a suggestion, how about settle this Mid-evil Style with a a good
ol' fashioned Joust.

Seriously, it's prolly best to use the Conflict Wiki as mentioned where
LUGS post and users pick apart at the post until it makes sense. 

My two bits.

OlyAnderson

-Original Message-
From: Mark Garrow 
To: Ubuntu US California 
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Ok, I am not sure how to put this
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:54:09 -0700

Since MarkDude seems to be "waiting" why wait any longer.. part of discovering 
how the team wants to accomplish conflict resolution is in itself a group 
effort, it should be a project.  

I've added a "Conflicts Resolution" line to the Projects page .. 
(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects) .. although my skills 
editing the wiki are poor, the link doesn't go anywhere.. yet.. perhaps a 
little help from those in the know.  If my addition is inappropriate let me 
know and I'll remove it.

As a start.. here's a bit that I've thought of

Conflicts I define as procedural.  ie.. "How do I...", "Would it be better 
if ", "Would it be ok to", 


1> Issues should be brought up initially on the mailing list
a> one issue at a time, clear and concise.  Much like a bug report

2> Discussion on the mailing list or a pre-arranged IRC meeting separate from 
our normal meeting.  IRC meetings in this venu to be logged.
a> normal IRC meetings should be positive and about upcoming events, 
meetings, experiences etc
b> past events, meetings can be referenced to mention an online 
location 
to see positives/negatives/future tweeks to consider.  Future tweeks to be 
mentioned as a topic for normal meetings or placed in the Projects page under 
Conference Box or other appropriate title.

3> In the event a conflict can't be ironed out in the methods above, a team 
vote could be called.  

In the words of Dale Carnegie from the "Golden Book" and "How to Win Friends 
and Influence Enemies",  "Don't Criticize, Condemn, or Complain".  If you do, 
(my words), you end up with Strife, Polarization and no constructive 
resolution.

Best regards,

Mark Garrow (Scunizi)


On Monday, September 27, 2010 01:06:16 pm Mark Terranova wrote:
> Hello California Team, we stand at a crossroads, with paths in front of us.
> I pick the path with less drama and hassles. Whatever the group decides to
> do I suggest we not question each other's * motivations*. This is a
> volunteer group. We are not getting paid to this. Let's assume everyone
> here is involved to share in the Spirit of Ubuntu. We may differ on what
> that means.
> 
> Just to be clear- I don't doubt *anyone's* motivation in this group. To me
> it is clear that there is noble intent all the way 'round.
> 
> *It's not just me that thinks things could be improved here.
> *Sure, we could go details and sort out every little detail that started
> what is currently taking away valuable time from this group. We could read
> logs until we can read no more.
> 
> I would prefer an *open and transparent process* that outlines how we deal
> with problems as they arise. I have been waiting since last year for this.
> Neal said he would do so;
> 
> California team organization, management structure, processes Roadmap
> 
>1.
> 
>Jono wrote a blog
> entry ssful-teams/>on roadmaps
>2. Neal says one is "in the works" since Mark suggested it a few weeks
>ago
> 
> Source: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/09December13
> 
> Waiting,
> MarkDude
> 
> PS Whatever people think about this lets not ascribe negative labels to
> people. If it appears that I have done that, I am sorry and that was wrong.
> I do have a right to ask for follow-up on something from last year. I can't
> do much more than make noise until then.



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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] San Diego Ubuntu Hour! All Interested San Diegans Ping Me Back!

2010-09-28 Thread Grant Bowman
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Philip Ballew  wrote:
> that sounds like a solid plan. ill email him but if not just chill at a
> coffee shop. im currently a college student here in the point loma ocean
> beach area so not much time but i can easily go wait at a place with free wi
> fi for an hour.

Go for it!

Grant Bowman
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam

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