[Ubuntu-US-CA] Meeting tonight, Sunday February 10th at 7PM
Hi everyone, Tonight, Sunday February 10th, we're having our regularly scheduled bi-weekly LoCo meeting at 7pm PT in #ubuntu-us-ca on irc.freenode.net For help connecting to IRC with a client, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat Or simply join us via your web browser by going here:http://ubuntu-california.org/chat/ Current agenda: - SCaLE11x planning and announcements And as always if you have event ideas, projects you wish to talk about or other announcements, you're welcome to join us and share. The meeting page is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/13February10 Logs will be available after the meeting and you're welcome to add your comments here on the mailing list if you're unable to attend. -- Elizabeth Krumbach // Lyz // pleia2 http://www.princessleia.com -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Ubuntu-us-ca Digest, Vol 69, Issue 2
Also I might point out that when Chambers of Commerce or politicians promote their area to groups thinking of bringing in conventions, its never a case where the politicians, etc. are thinking of (or threatening) showing up themselves to the highly specialized business or technical talks that the convention would be holding. So that's a non-issue. Instead they would be helping to get the word out that the event was taking place so that professionals who are interested in that field will be encouraged to show up and in turn the CoC/politicians can say "look at this long list of conventions we've held in our city/region/state. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 6:32 AM, nuboon2age wrote: > I think Grant is on to something here. It is very common for Chambers of > Commerce and local politicians to look to try to promote conventions coming > to their area with the hope to boost local business and tourism. > Berkeley/Oakland/East Bay is very much in need of this kind of shot in the > arm and I'd think that a group such as for example the Berkeley Chamber of > Commerce ( > http://berkeleychamber.com/cms2/view.htm/2/40/953/1818/Economic%20Development+Buy%20Local%20Berkeley) > would likely be excited to hear the internationally significant UDS is back > for the 2nd time. We could approach them and they could likely help steer > us towards an appropriate promotion. We DO want to emphasize that > GNU/Linux is an enormous boon for business and EVERYONE needs to learn > about it. Perhaps if Ubuntu California is reluctant as a body to do it > (unclear to me as of yet), a group like Partimus might want to take the > steps. > > Drew > > > On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 4:00 AM, wrote: > >> Send Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list submissions to >> ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> ubuntu-us-ca-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> ubuntu-us-ca-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Ubuntu-us-ca digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Re: Project: Letters to our Representatives (Elizabeth Krumbach) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:02:06 -0800 >> From: Elizabeth Krumbach >> To: Ubuntu US California >> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Project: Letters to our Representatives >> Message-ID: >> > fzlnc...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Nathan Haines >> wrote: >> > UDS is a development sprint; it's not a social gathering. It's set up >> to >> > get people working world-wide on important parts of the Ubuntu project >> > together in one room so they can discuss and decide the focus for their >> work >> > for the upcoming development cycle. >> >> Right. While there is a community track, even this track is focused on >> giving action items which lead to producing results and material and >> isn't going to be valuable or interesting to your standard Ubuntu >> *user* who is not interested in contributing, let alone someone who >> only has a passing interest in technology on a policy level. >> >> > Inviting large numbers of non-developers who have no prior knowledge or >> > experience with Ubuntu or Free Software to anything other than the >> keynote >> > would seem to be unproductive, unsatisfying, and subversive to the >> goals of >> > UDS. >> >> I agree, but you do mention "anything other than the keynote" which is >> where I think we may have an "in" here. Ubuntu is a major player on >> the Internet today, and the existence of the summit in California >> again is something that's exciting and important, but as Peter points >> out, actually inviting them to the summit to attend the workshop >> sessions about SELinux implementation or whatnot would be useless. >> >> > If I wanted to risk hurting UDS anyway, I would at least come up with a >> > consensus of what UDS "might mean to" California lawmakers before >> > starting a letter writing campaign. >> >> So say we're just inviting some people to the first 2 hours of the >> summit to see the keynote, I don't think this would be harmful to UDS. >> But it would require volunteers to properly receive them, it would be >> a mess to have people spend valuable time and be completely lost. And >> I think coming up with a consensus as to the value of UDS is >> essential. >> >> Grant - perhaps the team you put together can work on this value >> document in a broad sense? Even if it's not used for UDS I could see >> the team leveraging such a document about having active Ubuntu >> presence in California for other things, including user-focused >> conferences and involvements with groups like opensou
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Ubuntu-us-ca Digest, Vol 69, Issue 2
I think Grant is on to something here. It is very common for Chambers of Commerce and local politicians to look to try to promote conventions coming to their area with the hope to boost local business and tourism. Berkeley/Oakland/East Bay is very much in need of this kind of shot in the arm and I'd think that a group such as for example the Berkeley Chamber of Commerce ( http://berkeleychamber.com/cms2/view.htm/2/40/953/1818/Economic%20Development+Buy%20Local%20Berkeley) would likely be excited to hear the internationally significant UDS is back for the 2nd time. We could approach them and they could likely help steer us towards an appropriate promotion. We DO want to emphasize that GNU/Linux is an enormous boon for business and EVERYONE needs to learn about it. Perhaps if Ubuntu California is reluctant as a body to do it (unclear to me as of yet), a group like Partimus might want to take the steps. Drew On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 4:00 AM, wrote: > Send Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list submissions to > ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ubuntu-us-ca-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ubuntu-us-ca-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Ubuntu-us-ca digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Project: Letters to our Representatives (Elizabeth Krumbach) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:02:06 -0800 > From: Elizabeth Krumbach > To: Ubuntu US California > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Project: Letters to our Representatives > Message-ID: > fzlnc...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Nathan Haines > wrote: > > UDS is a development sprint; it's not a social gathering. It's set up to > > get people working world-wide on important parts of the Ubuntu project > > together in one room so they can discuss and decide the focus for their > work > > for the upcoming development cycle. > > Right. While there is a community track, even this track is focused on > giving action items which lead to producing results and material and > isn't going to be valuable or interesting to your standard Ubuntu > *user* who is not interested in contributing, let alone someone who > only has a passing interest in technology on a policy level. > > > Inviting large numbers of non-developers who have no prior knowledge or > > experience with Ubuntu or Free Software to anything other than the > keynote > > would seem to be unproductive, unsatisfying, and subversive to the goals > of > > UDS. > > I agree, but you do mention "anything other than the keynote" which is > where I think we may have an "in" here. Ubuntu is a major player on > the Internet today, and the existence of the summit in California > again is something that's exciting and important, but as Peter points > out, actually inviting them to the summit to attend the workshop > sessions about SELinux implementation or whatnot would be useless. > > > If I wanted to risk hurting UDS anyway, I would at least come up with a > > consensus of what UDS "might mean to" California lawmakers before > > starting a letter writing campaign. > > So say we're just inviting some people to the first 2 hours of the > summit to see the keynote, I don't think this would be harmful to UDS. > But it would require volunteers to properly receive them, it would be > a mess to have people spend valuable time and be completely lost. And > I think coming up with a consensus as to the value of UDS is > essential. > > Grant - perhaps the team you put together can work on this value > document in a broad sense? Even if it's not used for UDS I could see > the team leveraging such a document about having active Ubuntu > presence in California for other things, including user-focused > conferences and involvements with groups like opensourceforamerica.org > that Jason mentioned. > > -- > Elizabeth Krumbach // Lyz // pleia2 > http://www.princessleia.com > > > > -- > > -- > Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list > Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca > > > End of Ubuntu-us-ca Digest, Vol 69, Issue 2 > *** > -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca