Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Least painful way to upgrade 12.10?

[Mark Garrow]

Except upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 is one shot.  You don't have to go
through the various interim releases.  One thing to remember, you have to
uninstall nvidia graphic drivers prior to the upgrade.

Best regards,

Mark Garrow
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On Jun 17, 2014 11:07 PM, "Skip Thomsen"  wrote:

> I'm no expert here, but I've asked this same question because we have four
> machines running 12.04 and one with 12.10. The answers and discussions that
> came about were consistent in their advice:  Start with a clean install of
> 14.04.
>
> Due to this advice, I'm going to leave our home and office machines as
> they are for as long as I can, since they are all working sweetly now and
> the thought of reinstalling all of the apps, programs, device drivers all
> over again is daunting, to say the least.
>
> Almost all of the various forum respondents to this concern seem to agree
> that the "recommended" step-by-step upgrades invites glitches with each
> step, and those glitches compound as you work your way up.  Clean install
> sounds great when it's done, but who wants to go through that when your
> system is working just as it should be?
>
> Re: backups, HDD's are so cheap now that what I've been doing is to
> install a new one for the clean install.  That way you are guaranteed a
> usable backup!
>
> Skip
>
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> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Josh Berkus  wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> So I have a Zenbook Prime running 12.10, which is EOL.  I understand I'm
>> going to have to step it through upgrades to 13.04 and 13.10 to get it
>> to 14.04.
>>
>> Questions:
>>
>> a) is there a "least painful" way to do this?
>>
>> b) is there a good way to back up my entire HDD image so that I can
>> revert to 12.10 if things go south?
>>
>> --
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>> http://pgexperts.com
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Least painful way to upgrade 12.10?

[Skip Thomsen]

I'm no expert here, but I've asked this same question because we have four
machines running 12.04 and one with 12.10. The answers and discussions that
came about were consistent in their advice:  Start with a clean install of
14.04.

Due to this advice, I'm going to leave our home and office machines as they
are for as long as I can, since they are all working sweetly now and the
thought of reinstalling all of the apps, programs, device drivers all over
again is daunting, to say the least.

Almost all of the various forum respondents to this concern seem to agree
that the "recommended" step-by-step upgrades invites glitches with each
step, and those glitches compound as you work your way up.  Clean install
sounds great when it's done, but who wants to go through that when your
system is working just as it should be?

Re: backups, HDD's are so cheap now that what I've been doing is to install
a new one for the clean install.  That way you are guaranteed a usable
backup!

Skip

Skip Thomsen
*The Modern Homestead Manual *
*Affordable Hawaii Living *

*Pandanus Designs *10522 Cozey Ct.
Forestville, CA 95436
808.443.6208
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On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Josh Berkus  wrote:

> All,
>
> So I have a Zenbook Prime running 12.10, which is EOL.  I understand I'm
> going to have to step it through upgrades to 13.04 and 13.10 to get it
> to 14.04.
>
> Questions:
>
> a) is there a "least painful" way to do this?
>
> b) is there a good way to back up my entire HDD image so that I can
> revert to 12.10 if things go south?
>
> --
> Josh Berkus
> PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
> http://pgexperts.com
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Least painful way to upgrade 12.10?

[Akkana Peck]

Josh Berkus wrote:
> b) is there a good way to back up my entire HDD image so that I can
> revert to 12.10 if things go south?

Alex Mandel writes:
> 2. move your home directory to a separate partition then you only have
> to write over the / with the fresh install, home directory can stay in
> place. (this could be done with a large external too, bit of a shuffle game)

If you put your home directory on a separate partition, you can keep
several / partitions around. Then you can do a fresh install of
14.04 to one of the spare root partitions without risking anything
on your working 12.10 setup. Root partitions don't take up much space
at all (allow 15G or so) compared to the size of modern hard drives.

And thanks, Alex, for the suggestion of dpkg get-selections --
I haven't been doing that on new installs, but it's a great idea.

...Akkana

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Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Least painful way to upgrade 12.10?

[Alex Mandel]

On 06/17/2014 11:29 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:
> All,
> 
> So I have a Zenbook Prime running 12.10, which is EOL.  I understand I'm
> going to have to step it through upgrades to 13.04 and 13.10 to get it
> to 14.04.
> 
> Questions:
> 
> a) is there a "least painful" way to do this?
> 
> b) is there a good way to back up my entire HDD image so that I can
> revert to 12.10 if things go south?
> 

If you have a big enough external drive use Clonezilla live distro to
create a clone image.

Then do a fresh install of 14.04

Want to get nifty:
1. export your package selections with dpkg get-selections to make
reinstalling same stuff easier on the new system
2. move your home directory to a separate partition then you only have
to write over the / with the fresh install, home directory can stay in
place. (this could be done with a large external too, bit of a shuffle game)

Let me know if you need more details (can't find on the internet).

Thanks,
Alex

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[Ubuntu-US-CA] Least painful way to upgrade 12.10?

[Josh Berkus]

All,

So I have a Zenbook Prime running 12.10, which is EOL.  I understand I'm
going to have to step it through upgrades to 13.04 and 13.10 to get it
to 14.04.

Questions:

a) is there a "least painful" way to do this?

b) is there a good way to back up my entire HDD image so that I can
revert to 12.10 if things go south?

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