[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
This Bug was still present in Lucid in 2011-03. ;) But this is not my business anymore. Since 2011-04 i use debian with the same old bug. The bug is still present in an uptodate X. The only thing about is - the lag is smaller, but never gone. (Auf gut deutsch: Macht doch alle, was ihr wollt, es interessiert mich nicht mehr. Andere Bugs in Lucid sind gravierender und haben mich zu einem Umstieg auf debian bewogen. Es ist mir vollkommen egal, in welcher Distribution ich Fehler fixen muss. In debian stable betreffen die mich nur nicht mehr. Meine Server haben kein X.) Ansonsten ist der Umgang mit Fehlern ein Armutszeugnis und keine Werbung für Ubuntu. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 Title: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/351186/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
new version xorg-server 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7.5+gc01 in https://launchpad.net/~info-g-com/+archive/xserver-xorg-1.7.6-gc -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 Title: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
Ok. At the moment i don't use ubuntu because there are to many bugs. But I'll try to apply the patch later this week or at weekend. -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
** Description changed: PPA to fix the error 'til a final solution is created: --- KARMIC: https://launchpad.net/~k0ekk0ek/+archive/ppa LUCID: https://launchpad.net/~info-g-com/+archive/xserver-xorg-1.7.6-gc Please do not write: Have the same error nor it affects me to, please become a subscriber! THX Alf -- - - Binary package hint: fglrx [Environment] * You are using fglrx restricted driver from Ubuntu repository or download the linux driver from AMD ATI website (fglrx version <= 8.723.1-0ubuntu3). * If your ATI card is listed in the following pdf, then your desktop behaviours will most likely be affected the 'bugs' listed in [Symptoms] section. https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_102_linux.pdf * GNOME and KDE SC 4. * Compositing desktop is enabled (Compiz and KWIN). [Symptoms] * Window Management: Unminimizing, Maximising, Full-Screening, Resizing windows and Switching windows (Alt+Tab) will noticably freeze the screen for about 1 second plus. Your mileage might vary. * Memory (RAM) Management: Secondary problem you might notice is memory leak and/or memory-clearing problem (http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21471). - - [Workarounds] - * Window Management: - - Using PPA (Lucid Only) by Bryce Harrington (not up-to-date as of time of writing) - PPA address @ https://edge.launchpad.net/~bryceharrington/+archive/violet - In terminal, 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bryceharrington/violet' then install the update and reboot. - - Other PPAs: - + Alf Gaida (Lucid): https://launchpad.net/~info-g-com/+archive/xserver-xorg-1.7.6-gc - 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:info-g-com/xserver-xorg-1.7.6-gc' - - - Compile your own packages - when the ppa is not updated fast enough (or you are an update-freak like me) - + You need to tick 'Source Code' option in Synaptic Repositories or add relevant source code repo (deb-src) if you are using ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates. - + Building instruction: - sudo apt-get build-dep xorg-server - sudo apt-get install devscripts - apt-get source xorg-server - cd xorg-server-* - wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/45103003/xserver-xorg-backclear.patch - patch -p1 < xserver-xorg-backclear.patch - dch -l local 'Backclear Patch' - debuild -us -uc - cd .. - sudo dpkg --install xserver-xorg-core*.deb - sudo dpkg --install xserver-common*.deb - - * Memory (RAM) Management: - - In terminal, run 'glxinfo' command or invoke 'glxgears' to release the 'uncleared' memory. You might need 'mesa-utils' package installed. - - Create a bash script to run at start up - #!/bin/sh - while [ 1 ] - do - glxinfo - sleep 60 - done - - [My Suggested Comment Guidelines - subjected to change] - * Keep it civil. - * Subscribe to the bug and click on the (!) icon on top 'This bug affects you and x other people' instead of comment like 'it affects me too'. - * Help test the patch for potential regression as requested by Bryce Harrington: - "A. What we need is solid proof of the following: - - 1. No visible regression on -intel with compiz turned on - 2. No visible regression on -ati with compiz turned on - 3. No visible regression on -nouveau with compiz turned on - 4. No visible regression on -nvidia with compiz turned on - 5. No visible regression on at least one video driver with kde kwin desktop effects turned on. - - Alternatively, I could accept either of the following: - - B. Rejigger the patch so its logic is only enabled when the fglrx - driver is loaded - - C. Forward the patch upstream to Debian or bugs.freedesktop.org and get it accepted into the upstream xserver, from which we can pull a cherrypick patch. - " -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
You have to look twice ;) The Bug isn't gone, but a lot faster now. I discovered the 1.8.1 and 1.8.2 and the bug is still there. I tried Maverick last week with an brand new bleeding Xserver (1.8.xxx) where the patch can't applied anymore. But in this version it seems the bug has gone too. -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
New package available: xorg-server - 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7.3.gc-01 -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
Your can use the ppa from k0ekk0ek without problems. Use synaptic and force the use of k0ekk0ek's version -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
New package available: xorg-server - 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7.2-gc6 -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
Why do you remove the patched Server. The Server has absolutly nothing to do with the ati driver. The combination patched server + 10.6 works without glitches and errors for me. Give it a try. -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
New package available: xorg-server - 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7.1-gc5 -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
@44 and @all I don't think I'm too unkind in the end. IMHO it is a real advantage for me to know what I am doing. Mostly I reach this goal reading the whole stuff. In this special case I would read the comments on bug 351186 #126 #127 #128 #174 #218 #219 about no-backfill. The no-backclear is described at #228 #234 #256 . The advantage of no backclear and the ppa for karmic your can find here. (#291..#296). My intention for an own ppa is described at its best at #264 and by myself at #413 #414 #421 #436. You will see it's all in the records... @Daniel: It was no offense writing that you are not forced to use fglrx and no backfill. You and anyone can give the free driver a chance. I did this yesterday with a brand new X 1.8 directly from the latest sources and the latest xf86-video-ati, ati-dri, mesa and so on directly from the git. Then I built Compiz 0.86somewhat from the git and it works mostly. Disadvantages are: No powermanagement, my 4890 runs at full speed all the time (over 90 Watts more power consumption), several bugs in Compiz effects (finally get a kernel panic), bugs with glx (best shown with glxgears), memory leaks within compiz. Some strange behaviour with false rendering..). I have checked this out with arch and a 2.6.34 patched kernel (new scheduling, powermanagement and so on) just for fun. I found out by and for myself that the most errors are related primarily to compiz, second in Xorg and the minor part in Catalyst. I've choosen arch, because I'm familiar with arch and I figured out that it has nothing to do with Ubuntu. Today I'll change back to Catalyst and will build a new version of the ppa. -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
If you had readed and understanded the suggested comments for bug 351186 you would know why there is no recommendation for the no-backfill patch Btw., the ubuntu version for catalyst is 10.4-666, the version of their website is 10.4-1. Guess why most people at fedora or arch or so use the ubuntu one ;-). Second time: Nobody force you to use the fglrx nor backfill! -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
Yes, mark the xorg-server and set version. One short notice: If you do so, you have to look for new versions manually, i.e. in the ppa. If you take a look at the ppa should get an "new version available" or so. Anyway, if Catalyst run without problems ther is no reason to change sub-minor-versions as 1.7.6-1 -2 -3. It will make no sence, nor in performance nor is stability. Relax and wait for a few days, you will miss nothing. As i wrote so, i'm use 1.8.0.1 in Arch. Nice to have, but not a must... If the 1.7.6 runs stable, yust be lucky. -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
#38 Please read the description in top and you'll find the answer to your questions about k0ekk0ek and info-g-com. (about no backfill read in 351186) .. definitely broke.. "It Ain't Necessarily So" (George Gershwin). Nobody forced you to update the xorg-xserver. If you wish to be unaffected of such updates, make the ppa sticky. If you would get back the fix you should use synaptics and select version. If you couldn't wait 'til i update the ppa, then you can decide to build your own patch. The steps are listed above and work. I'll build a new source later today or tomorrow. -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
I have read in other bugs and bord a nice workaround. Create an Button that runs glxgears for twenty seconds. This should fix the leaking... -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
@19 If it is a leak then dont worry about it in the start of your computer. I check this back with my Computer. Depending on th number of open windows and their size, Xorg take between 100 and 200 M at Start. When these Value is nearly the same +/- 20-30M after a few hours, i think you dont have a leak. If it increase to 500M or so with no windows open then i would say, there can be a leak. So it comes to another question: Why do we use graphic card with 1 or 2 G of own memory? There must be an profit for us to do so. I think a pice of that amount of memory are objects cached by Xorg and will be destroyed by xorg after a amount of time... -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
** Description changed: - ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! - The comment list to this bug reach a point of entries at this we must declare this buglist for "full". The buglist appears unreadable for many people becaquse of launchpad timeouts. So it was the decision to make a new entry in launchpad as a successor of this bug. You should use https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/568988 instead. Thanks. + ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! + The comment list to this bug reach a point of entries at this we must declare this buglist for "full". The buglist appears unreadable for many people because of launchpad timeouts. So it was the decision to make a new entry in launchpad as a successor of this bug. You should use https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/568988 instead. Thanks. ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! [updated] Since the new version of ubuntu/kubuntu (9.04 jaunty) a new bug occurs with ATI cards and desktop effects enabled. With fglrx driver, the unminimizing of windows is really slow ... it can take from 1 to 3 seconds. Also, the maximizing, unmaximizing and Alt+Tab present the same problem. The opening of a window present the same bug, freezing the system for 1sec. This bug is under both gnome and kde (4.2.1) (I have an ATI HD2600 Mobility Pro ) [lspci] 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub [8086:2a00] (rev 03) Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:011e] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M76 [Radeon Mobility HD 2600 Series] [1002:9581] Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:011e] -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
@Vancouverite Thanks for the survey. Done. Have a look at 351186 comment #228 by Felix Kuehling. Have a look at the mail address in the profile. Sure i think AMD knows about this problem ;-). Last week I've been in a thread at phoronix, there was interesting news about new drivers from AMD by bridgman. (also @amd) So i think, they know about. IMHO the bug isn't primary in the ati drivers, i think its in Xorg. -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
As suggested i tried the configurations -ati -nouveaux -nvidia -fglrx and found no visible regressions, slowdowns nor memory leaks with gnome and compiz kwin breaks with and without this patch and 10.4 in KDE KDE and emerald or KDE and GTK work without clues -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
** Description changed: + PPA to fix the error 'til a final solution is created: + + KARMIC: https://launchpad.net/~k0ekk0ek/+archive/ppa + LUCID: https://launchpad.net/~info-g-com/+archive/xserver-xorg-1.7.6-gc + + Please do not write: have the same error nor it affects me to, please become a subscriber! + THX Alf + + Binary package hint: fglrx [Environment] * You are using fglrx restricted driver from Ubuntu repository or download the linux driver from AMD ATI website (fglrx version <= 8.723.1-0ubuntu3). * If your ATI card is listed in the following pdf, then your desktop behaviours will most likely be affected the 'bugs' listed in [Symptoms] section. https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_102_linux.pdf * GNOME and KDE SC 4. * Compositing desktop is enabled (Compiz and KWIN). [Symptoms] * Window Management: Unminimizing, Maximising, Full-Screening, Resizing windows and Switching windows (Alt+Tab) will noticably freeze the screen for about 1 second plus. Your mileage might vary. * Memory (RAM) Management: Secondary problem you might notice is memory leak and/or memory-clearing problem (http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21471). [Workarounds] * Window Management: - Using PPA (Lucid Only) by Bryce Harrington (not up-to-date as of time of writing) PPA address @ https://edge.launchpad.net/~bryceharrington/+archive/violet In terminal, 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bryceharrington/violet' then install the update and reboot. - Other PPAs: - + Alf Gaida (Lucid): https://launchpad.net/~info-g-com/+archive/xserver-xorg-1.7.6-gc -'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:info-g-com/xserver-xorg-1.7.6-gc' - + Other PPAs: + + Alf Gaida (Lucid): https://launchpad.net/~info-g-com/+archive/xserver-xorg-1.7.6-gc + 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:info-g-com/xserver-xorg-1.7.6-gc' - Compile your own packages - when the ppa is not updated fast enough (or you are an update-freak like me) + You need to tick 'Source Code' option in Synaptic Repositories or add relevant source code repo (deb-src) if you are using ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates. + Building instruction: sudo apt-get build-dep xorg-server sudo apt-get install devscripts apt-get source xorg-server cd xorg-server-* wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/45103003/xserver-xorg-backclear.patch patch -p1 < xserver-xorg-backclear.patch dch -l local 'Backclear Patch' debuild -us -uc cd .. sudo dpkg --install xserver-xorg-core*.deb sudo dpkg --install xserver-common*.deb * Memory (RAM) Management: - In terminal, run 'glxinfo' command or invoke 'glxgears' to release the 'uncleared' memory. You might need 'mesa-utils' package installed. - Create a bash script to run at start up #!/bin/sh while [ 1 ] do glxinfo sleep 60 done [My Suggested Comment Guidelines - subjected to change] * Keep it civil. * Subscribe to the bug and click on the (!) icon on top 'This bug affects you and x other people' instead of comment like 'it affects me too'. * Help test the patch for potential regression as requested by Bryce Harrington: "A. What we need is solid proof of the following: 1. No visible regression on -intel with compiz turned on 2. No visible regression on -ati with compiz turned on 3. No visible regression on -nouveau with compiz turned on 4. No visible regression on -nvidia with compiz turned on 5. No visible regression on at least one video driver with kde kwin desktop effects turned on. Alternatively, I could accept either of the following: B. Rejigger the patch so its logic is only enabled when the fglrx driver is loaded C. Forward the patch upstream to Debian or bugs.freedesktop.org and get it accepted into the upstream xserver, from which we can pull a cherrypick patch. " ** Description changed: PPA to fix the error 'til a final solution is created: + + --- KARMIC: https://launchpad.net/~k0ekk0ek/+archive/ppa LUCID: https://launchpad.net/~info-g-com/+archive/xserver-xorg-1.7.6-gc - Please do not write: have the same error nor it affects me to, please become a subscriber! + Please do not write: Have the same error nor it affects me to, please become a subscriber! THX Alf + + -- + Binary package hint: fglrx [Environment] * You are using fglrx restricted driver from Ubuntu repository or download the linux driver from AMD ATI website (fglrx version <= 8.
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
OK - no more kidding around - FOR ENGLISH SPEAKING PEOPLE the same message as for german users: DONT POST ANY COMMENTS IN THIS BUG! PLEASE USE BUG 568988 INSTEAD https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/568988 I will add the ppa's for karmic and lucid in the description. And no, there you will not find weylands nobackfill patch. The backfill patch has been replaced and the no-backclear is his succsessor. I'm not unkind nor this is an uncivil yielding. This buglist ist full by the meaning of full! -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Jetzt mal für deutsche Leser: Was ist an der von mir geänderten Beschreibung des Fehlers nicht zu verstehen? Das Limit an Kommentaren ist erreicht, die Fehler bei der Darstellung mehren sich. Verdammt noch mal nehmt den Link zu Bug 568988 oben in der Beschreibung zwischen den vielen Ausrufezeichen. Deutlicher kann man eine Beschreibung doch gar nicht mehr ändern. Das Lucid-PPA findet man da in Posting 8. Viel Spass! Und nicht böse sein wegen der Flucherei ;-) -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
** Description changed: - - ** - The comment list to this bug reach a point of entries at this we must declare this buglist for "full". So it was the decision to make a new entry in launchpad as a successor of this bug. You should use https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/568988 instead. Thanks. - ** - - + ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! + The comment list to this bug reach a point of entries at this we must declare this buglist for "full". The buglist appears unreadable for many people becaquse of launchpad timeouts. So it was the decision to make a new entry in launchpad as a successor of this bug. You should use https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/568988 instead. Thanks. + ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! [updated] Since the new version of ubuntu/kubuntu (9.04 jaunty) a new bug occurs with ATI cards and desktop effects enabled. With fglrx driver, the unminimizing of windows is really slow ... it can take from 1 to 3 seconds. Also, the maximizing, unmaximizing and Alt+Tab present the same problem. The opening of a window present the same bug, freezing the system for 1sec. This bug is under both gnome and kde (4.2.1) (I have an ATI HD2600 Mobility Pro ) [lspci] 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub [8086:2a00] (rev 03) Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:011e] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M76 [Radeon Mobility HD 2600 Series] [1002:9581] Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:011e] -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
** Description changed: + + ** + The comment list to this bug reach a point of entries at this we must declare this buglist for "full". So it was the decision to make a new entry in launchpad as a successor of this bug. You should use https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/568988 instead. Thanks. + ** + + + [updated] Since the new version of ubuntu/kubuntu (9.04 jaunty) a new bug occurs with ATI cards and desktop effects enabled. With fglrx driver, the unminimizing of windows is really slow ... it can take from 1 to 3 seconds. Also, the maximizing, unmaximizing and Alt+Tab present the same problem. The opening of a window present the same bug, freezing the system for 1sec. This bug is under both gnome and kde (4.2.1) (I have an ATI HD2600 Mobility Pro ) - [lspci] 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub [8086:2a00] (rev 03) - Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:011e] + Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:011e] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M76 [Radeon Mobility HD 2600 Series] [1002:9581] - Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:011e] + Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:011e] -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
** Also affects: fglrx-installer (Arch Linux) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: gentoo Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Package changed: fglrx-installer (Arch Linux) => archlinux -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
builded, tested, working ;-) -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 568988] Re: [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop.
Hi, the actual ppa with 1.7...ubuntu7 can be found at https://launchpad.net/~info-g-com/+archive/xserver-xorg-1.7.6-gc Please, be a little patient, i have build it on my own and its work. Have to wait 'til launchpad hopefully build it too. -- [Lucid][Ubuntu 10.04][ATI cards] Slow/freeze windows management (resize, maximise, .etc) with fglrx driver + compositing desktop. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/568988 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
#422 Nice idea, getting the patched Server in sync, but imho it is not applyable to .deb packages. That's the point i like Arch for: Doing it the Arch way. Make a Sourcepackage, get it, build it, mostly it works. The build system in Arch does this that way. Make a BUILD package and most of the work is done. Then do a makepkg. The makepkg does the folloing: Get the actual sources, get the actual patches, build the actual package. Every thing is done. My way in Ubuntu is: apt-get sources xorg... Patch it manually, make a debuild with the right options, upload it to my ppa. Its a nice idea doing this in time automatic if a new version occurs. Any ideas? -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
@Bryce #419 I dont think so. @Bryce #420 Full ACK. As i wrote, a patch can't be the final solution. But i think, as the bug is present for over two releases of ubuntu, there must be a "semi-official" ppa or so one. This means, the ppa has to be promoted in the wiki, faq etc. I know that the people at ATI are working on this problem too. Promoting a ppa give new users the chance to find it quickly and for the maintainers the chance to keep it actual in a simple way. And it were the right place for the "good news" that it is obsolete. if there are a final solution. Keeping Marks words about the meaning of ubuntu in mind - these words mean to me, give new users a fair chance enjoing ubuntu too. For me it is no big problem aplying the patch and be happy. I dont know how it shows for a first time ubuntu-(linux)-user. Another time - this bug is a real SHOWSTOPPER. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 552644] Re: Lucid Lynx 64 bit nightly build hangs on boot
earthforce_1 wrote: A hang at the splash screen with four dots lit would normally mean that plymouth has exited, and that something else is supposed to start. Is this installed as an Ubuntu desktop system? If you press Alt+F1 at the hang, do you get to the console login screen? Ok, I have similar problems with ubuntu amd64 (965 BE/Ati 4890) and new Kernel 2.6.32. Tried out other Distros with 2.6.33 same problems. System hangs on boot, continues when pressing the power button many times. I think, you should turn off the splash screen. Next step: Boot and look, where it hangs. Try the power button. If the system react, try "nolapic_timer" or similar in the kernel-line. This fix this for me in Ubuntu, Arch and Sabayon. PS: Trying this in Arch without X install. This Error is in my opinion not related to fglrx. -- Lucid Lynx 64 bit nightly build hangs on boot https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/552644 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Finally i managed setting up a ppa with the path posted by Felix Kuehling. Have tested it on both i386 and x86_64. For me it worked like charm. You can find th ppa here. https://launchpad.net/~info-g-com/+archive/xserver-xorg-1.7.6-gc Feel fŕee to try it out. Other question: What can we do to fix this issue finally? -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 351186] Re: [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled
Hi, after switching from VirtualBox to real hardware, the good old ATI-Backclear-Bug appears. Doing nice things as searching for another linux distribution i decided to give lucid a chance. As described in the artikle below i downloaded patch and the actual X server and patched it folloing Daëavelwyn: Comment 256 for bug 351186 Daëavelwyn wrote on 2009-10-10: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/351186/comments/256 In a few words: download, patch, build, install, smile. The speed issues are gone and i can't see memory leaks in my system. All seems to be o.k. this time. Thanks to Daëavelwyn, Felix and all others belong to this problem. I think that's a shame that this bug isn't fixed for a so long time, but it's not the fault of Ubuntu, Debian ore someone in the Distributions. I have tried all major distries with the same result: The bug occurs. Do the people at Xorg nor ATI no about it. The bug occurs with several Xorg servers and ATI-drivers. Why to fuck doesn't anybody analyse and fix this shit for ever. Patching is nice but dosn't solve the problem. If there are any ideas for promoting this bug, tell me. I'm fixing this fucking pice of code the xx. time and it sucks off. Any time i get a new version i have to do this and dont now as the fix will work. Its sucks. Buying a nvidia card can't be the klue. (Whats about my Dell Studio with ATI). For my second Workstation i solved the problem finally. i bought a mainbord with a Intel G41 on it. Without the patch it work faster then my main-desktop. it's really a showstopper for new Linux (Ubuntu) users, as i have to patch a grown driver in front of a noob... If i know to set up a ppa i would. -- [M76] [ubuntu 9.04] [ubuntu 9.10] [ubuntu 10.04] slow unminimizing with ati card and desktop effects enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
