Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As you predicted Seth, after upgrading to Oneiric all shakiness in the pointer while using the touchpad has disappeared. This is very nice! Thanks again, David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOmEI1AAoJEMHeSXG7afUhTNYIAIu8q9+YyRSz4uGSN/DZw7ji HoJWKHo+Tl0YD3ckFvmNg9/4NrrsE4qkVswoYVdSCwDk7aNLnVz3G9sQJkGvdjEf 4zB+ltwbCx9Jdwl0jfeYC2IP2suvrJkWL8YhNbXmms6tBgbTFgtlmd6mzYcFFcc1 yKfU7BcqjLACWjWcFVh709Xaha80Jxlvzfgfstyxk9zE8w69ad61fxhsCy2HtpAd +9vZR69Y0Xa2UibFRYCdUh9pn29VSTLYJgUHiXhb9oXC3chlvKBKTuVZX2lC6rp8 n2/u1OGaOabzGJ+4r6GqlgMYci575tggQbv3t30dn9WmxK55fpBvfXeuaAsNlU4= =PEPW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/550625 Title: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/550625/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Latitude E6510. Everything is working fine with 0.9, including trackstick and the trackstick buttons. Btw., with 0.6 after spending a few days in KDE and then rebooting into Gnome, it started working in Gnome too. Go figure. Seth, thank you so much for all your work on this! You've removed the only real annoyance I was experiencing using Ubuntu on my E6510. David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOhSbTAAoJEMHeSXG7afUhbIsH/3WsY1IO7tImH+gX2BzcuhpP bg3BOLaQhe478LcQQD/0ZLWshHN5cgRc4eTY7B48LsyLzMTjTjR/lnC7igK4HqCh EaCJxXvbfzjUsKOgWnrw54xnU90n3h9Gtb1qhqXiWr+GvNrG0NMdjpzeuHzpi0TU IhqhEJu18NaLIc8laNnLY6TLO3C/YGLWBjTwLSkZXMSkbxJX9iBZ0tY8rcD5aSMw wv5+fHEFmZIMpua//q4TLNiIKYaVXJjIqO+cWd4y9c4qUFNLBnCXlUhWySf5Aata E+jwf7K+A/kO1/C0H5XxFTKQ1AjIjqKFCSR4+YpU/blF3FenCU9Lcb8PveM3/8Q= =Ussh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/550625 Title: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/550625/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/26/2011 09:10 AM, Seth Forshee wrote: Sorry, I really have no idea. If I had to guess I'd say it sounds like something in the Gnome settings has become messed up somehow, but I don't know what to tell you to look for. It doesn't sound like the problem is an the driver or Xserver level though, since both the display manager and KDE can use the touchpad just fine. Hi Seth, I'd been considering switching to KDE anyway and after using it for the past few days am getting used to it. It's really nice having two-fingered scrolling. Here are the things I've noticed about the driver: * I occasionally get a stray palm press while typing, which switches the focus or moves my cursor. The problem isn't nearly as bad as it was before your driver. Previously, I used the patch from comments #307 and #154 to disable tap-to-click and retain my sanity. Eliminating all stray palm presses is my only real request about the driver. * Two-fingered tap to right-click works, but is very difficult to get right. I have to try several times to get a contextual menu to appear, but then other times I accidentally invoke it. For now, I've disabled this. I can never get it to detect a three-fingered tap. Neither of these are big deals for me. * I just now mastered tapping the corner to right click (for me it's set to bottom right corner). I have to tap and lift immediately. Still, a little tricky to get right (tap and lift seems to help with two fingered tap too). * When I hold my finger to the touchpad, the pointer quivers slightly. I believe you mentioned that this behavior would be improved in Oneric (I'm using Natty). * Horizontal scrolling with two fingers works. Single fingered scrolling on the bottom edge invokes vertical scrolling however (left = down, right = up). Strange, but not a big deal since two fingered horizontal scrolling works. * I thing Horizontal circular scrolling is working: if I start at any edge and move at an angle, I get vertical scrolling. * I can't seem to get Continue edge scrolling automatically to work (e.g. I have Continue edge scrolling, while the finger stays in an edge corner checked but that doesn't happen, but I'm not confident I'm doing it right). * Continue cursor motion when hitting the touchpad edge works just fine. Thanks so much for working on this. It was depressing to have this fancy touchpad and have to use it with such limited functionality. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help you in your debugging efforts. Kind regards, David - -- Latitude E6510 Natty, 64 bit. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOgJppAAoJEMHeSXG7afUhpisH/jAtdxUHjsZeBOjHs7LpGfoM Qbdw2pJL4zrucAD2t1KcnYr+3h32oHRMkdVMSlIWvnqd6IZKLCQguvaZLU4s2Tik nWkZPv92FnBlhAjTRjBrt4RdxPimwUJoBiOotE8CnOvSt8teArJ4a7N4kUO45zV0 QK6UfqavXLLTVbbuGtKxPDJqkr5nqif5IBZjG3va0IaOGXpl+yRZyTPwcwR3EFHq dsnLfAdIcC43CaXjiZKhvFENlsVAeAPNcdUBtXr0Lkb2hhkDUYEVn4IpinQ9cZG4 XpnK3+QA/zh6ez+zgMHyNgPax4SCt9xIwhDQyuc3D6ixwO7+fmRwezpbGecrJbo= =gP9L -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/550625 Title: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/550625/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work
On 09/26/2011 04:50 PM, Seth Forshee wrote: I've posted a new version with just a few changes for debugging problems that have been reported, available at: http://people.canonical.com/~sforshee/alps-touchpad/psmouse-alps-0.7 /psmouse-alps-dkms_0.7_all.deb Anyone whose machine has a trackstick, please check that the mouse buttons just below the keyboard (above the tochpad) are working and let me know if they do not. Especially anyone using a Dell Latitude E6510. On my E6510, the trackstick buttons do work with 0.6. Am I understanding correctly that you want us to confirm that they still work with 0.7? David -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/550625 Title: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/550625/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Update: when I log in using KDE, the touchpad continues to work and two-finger scrolling works. If I log in using Gnome, however, even in Safe Mode or with No Effects, the touchpad to stop working. Any idea what in Gnome could be causing the problem or how to figure that out? Thanks, David On 09/22/2011 07:02 PM, David Cramer wrote: On 09/22/2011 04:13 PM, Seth Forshee wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 07:57:42PM -, David Cramer wrote: Hi Seth, I'll be very happy to have multi-touch. Thank you for working on this. Note that multi-touch for this device is basically going to be two-fingered scrolling. The data isn't good enough to do much more with it. That's fine. Two-fingered scrolling is all I really care about. 2. After rebooting and before logging in, the touchpad works as before. 3. After logging in, the touchpad stops working completely, but: a. The pointer still works. b. I now see a Touchpad tab in the mouse preferences, but changing settings had no effect on the non working touchpad. If it works in the window manager but not on the desktop, I don't think the driver is to blame. You can prove this by switching to a virtual console (e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F1) and running 'sudo lsinput', finding the Alps touchpad device, and then running 'sudo input-events' with the device number of the touchpad. If you see output spewing on the screen then you move your finger on the touchpad, the driver is probably working correctly. Yes, that test indicates that the driver is working. If it is working correctly, the problem would seem to be elsewhere. I'm not very familiar with debugging problems in those areas, but I'll share what I do know. Return to the desktop (Ctrl-Alt-F7), open a terminal, and run 'xinput list'. You should see an ALPS DualPoint Touchpad device listed, followed by an id number. Run 'xinput --list-props id' using the id for the touchpad. At the top there should be a line labeled Device Enabled, and the value should be 1. If it's not, run 'xinput --set-prop id Device Enabled 1' and see if your touchpad works. Ok. When I do that, I see: dcramer@anatine ~ $ xinput --list-props 13 Device 'AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad': Device Enabled (121): 0 ... When I run: dcramer@anatine ~ $ xinput --set-prop 13 Device Enabled 1 The command completes without any error or output, but the touchpad doesn't start working and when I run --list-props again, Device Enable is still set to 0. If I do --set-prop while tailing /var/log/Xorg.0.log, I see: [ 9830.351] (--) AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad: touchpad found Let me know if there are any other things I can try or if there's any other information I can provide. Thanks, David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOffhtAAoJEMHeSXG7afUhOhQH/jVwXRg478joizLVgOqMVGJM OP6cYb7+1WVd7gr2or6+Y1EYabb59/3hoxRt6FLe12gq6qE1onbgNimKQUoSJnQ2 vR34xIzVL++8O+411c5glNatM+5y62lMQ7UhiNf70Gz/7TCvqSRAw8CwIzgI+IHb J7foVoedgyig8/B70fgvMYrKAnC//QVRb9jpgGIZKFNYM3Ze2TS+V2rvJUUdGILm wiNjq0/+mnvHxq4j2i0kHeHdzkaGQSIOheyT/PrETa2ztPU04xUylD4SUUYHzJOv s31cogJ5ckVjDudGy+rF//Kja06qynbowMH4jNGP4g7+iPmo4Frw+bSWzFc0ZW4= =TLIM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/550625 Title: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/550625/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work
Hi Seth, I'll be very happy to have multi-touch. Thank you for working on this. For me, when I install psmouse-alps-dkms 1. Nothing changes until I reboot 2. After rebooting and before logging in, the touchpad works as before. 3. After logging in, the touchpad stops working completely, but: a. The pointer still works. b. I now see a Touchpad tab in the mouse preferences, but changing settings had no effect on the non working touchpad. I've attached the output of dmesg.txt. Dell Latitude E6510 Ubuntu Natty, 64bit Linux anatine 2.6.38-11-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 12 21:17:25 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Let me know if you need any more information. Thanks, David ** Attachment added: dmesg.txt https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/550625/+attachment/2442542/+files/dmesg.txt -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/550625 Title: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/550625/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/22/2011 04:13 PM, Seth Forshee wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 07:57:42PM -, David Cramer wrote: Hi Seth, I'll be very happy to have multi-touch. Thank you for working on this. Note that multi-touch for this device is basically going to be two-fingered scrolling. The data isn't good enough to do much more with it. That's fine. Two-fingered scrolling is all I really care about. 2. After rebooting and before logging in, the touchpad works as before. 3. After logging in, the touchpad stops working completely, but: a. The pointer still works. b. I now see a Touchpad tab in the mouse preferences, but changing settings had no effect on the non working touchpad. If it works in the window manager but not on the desktop, I don't think the driver is to blame. You can prove this by switching to a virtual console (e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F1) and running 'sudo lsinput', finding the Alps touchpad device, and then running 'sudo input-events' with the device number of the touchpad. If you see output spewing on the screen then you move your finger on the touchpad, the driver is probably working correctly. Yes, that test indicates that the driver is working. If it is working correctly, the problem would seem to be elsewhere. I'm not very familiar with debugging problems in those areas, but I'll share what I do know. Return to the desktop (Ctrl-Alt-F7), open a terminal, and run 'xinput list'. You should see an ALPS DualPoint Touchpad device listed, followed by an id number. Run 'xinput --list-props id' using the id for the touchpad. At the top there should be a line labeled Device Enabled, and the value should be 1. If it's not, run 'xinput --set-prop id Device Enabled 1' and see if your touchpad works. Ok. When I do that, I see: dcramer@anatine ~ $ xinput --list-props 13 Device 'AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad': Device Enabled (121): 0 ... When I run: dcramer@anatine ~ $ xinput --set-prop 13 Device Enabled 1 The command completes without any error or output, but the touchpad doesn't start working and when I run --list-props again, Device Enable is still set to 0. If I do --set-prop while tailing /var/log/Xorg.0.log, I see: [ 9830.351] (--) AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad: touchpad found Let me know if there are any other things I can try or if there's any other information I can provide. Thanks, David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOe8yLAAoJEMHeSXG7afUhDhUH+QF9NgyqRwSUQIVybvqyFNMr 1lGfwRlHOMGSPlWSAexUhOrGjWM0WqFry7mw55dPzEjfI5OYludYA+WJMHAwHXKK GtDOls/jD/TUNqdvbVwA/OXRnvdXYIYDDyqZcfw+nEkNJQtRaQ+3pqkxmv5z29sC fobK8LpojIYfZ61Vj+ErcVNqt11cusXGVguByfblwd7apdm/McPcizu0lQc78BSe k+xqtLqXjDYS0PAArRQ+wfiKMO4nqO31TLmH4aXjJWqIH4oFgpBBGtNJFDUhZYG2 bkpF1ewC+EO0Ava7+mdGh70FP7ZMjxN2IKCWrnj8BpZSi3XCNQ5nDAGNJk45OhY= =CDUh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/550625 Title: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/550625/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
