[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 881046]

2018-06-08 Thread Felix Miata
Broken panning, Bug 77321 , got a downstream fix 5 months ago in
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=771521

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 883319]

2018-06-08 Thread Felix Miata
Broken panning, Bug 77321 , got a downstream fix 5 months ago in
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=771521

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 589485]

2016-02-27 Thread Felix Miata
(In reply to Michal Suchanek from comment #26)
> This seems to work for me.

Are you sure nothing is setting DPI explicitly or implicitly, such as your DE?
 
> X.Org version: 1.17.2
> resolution:100x100 dots per inch

> Actual resolution seems to be more like 109 dpi but it's certainly not fixed
> at 96.

Using which video driver? All FOSS driver versions I've used since long
before this bug was opened force 96 unless unless explicitly overridden
via xrandr, Xft.dpi, server startup option -dpi, DE settings (which
typically use Xft.dpi or xrandr), or xorg.conf*'s DisplaySize option.
All these options force a specific DPI. None enable the server or driver
to do what computers do best, calculate and apply an accurate value
automatically, which is what this bug is effectively requesting.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 881046]

2014-04-21 Thread Felix Miata
(In reply to comment #53)
 Probably this bug has been marked invalid because there is a mix of two bugs
 here: one is related to panning (which I do not know if it's fixed or no),
 and the other one to mouse constraints when scaling

This bug has not been marked invalid.
 
 I have X.Org X Server 1.14.5 , and if I issue
 
 xrandr --output LVDS1 --scale 2x2
 
 the screen scales correctly, but then the mouse is restricted to the
 (original 1x1 viewport) upper left quarter of the screen, making the scaling
 completely unuseful.

That's why the summary says doesn't work. Unuseful and doesn't work
are functionally equivalent ways of saying it is broken (constrained
mouse) and thus not providing function (able to reach all areas of
screen with mouse) that makes it usable (can't click mixer icon on
panel).

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 883319]

2014-04-21 Thread Felix Miata
(In reply to comment #53)
 Probably this bug has been marked invalid because there is a mix of two bugs
 here: one is related to panning (which I do not know if it's fixed or no),
 and the other one to mouse constraints when scaling

This bug has not been marked invalid.
 
 I have X.Org X Server 1.14.5 , and if I issue
 
 xrandr --output LVDS1 --scale 2x2
 
 the screen scales correctly, but then the mouse is restricted to the
 (original 1x1 viewport) upper left quarter of the screen, making the scaling
 completely unuseful.

That's why the summary says doesn't work. Unuseful and doesn't work
are functionally equivalent ways of saying it is broken (constrained
mouse) and thus not providing function (able to reach all areas of
screen with mouse) that makes it usable (can't click mixer icon on
panel).

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 883319]

2014-04-11 Thread Felix Miata
Since panning at least can work via xrandr, I've forked the failure of
xorg.con* to provide equivalent panning function of xrandr without
arbitrary mouse constraint to bug 77321

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 881046]

2014-04-11 Thread Felix Miata
Since panning at least can work via xrandr, I've forked the failure of
xorg.con* to provide equivalent panning function of xrandr without
arbitrary mouse constraint to bug 77321

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 883319]

2014-04-10 Thread Felix Miata
Panning works via xrandr (only; not via xorg.con*) also in Kubuntu
12.04's server 1.11.4, while scaling does fail by having the mouse
cursor bound within the screen mode's size.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 881046]

2014-04-10 Thread Felix Miata
Panning works via xrandr (only; not via xorg.con*) also in Kubuntu
12.04's server 1.11.4, while scaling does fail by having the mouse
cursor bound within the screen mode's size.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 883319]

2014-04-08 Thread Felix Miata
As the summary is currently written, this bug is INVALID. Panning works
at least as far back as 1.13.2-1.21.1.i586 in openSUSE 12.3
(i865G,rv200), in addition to current 1.15.x and 1.16rc1 servers in
Fedora, Mageia, and openSUSE, but only when xrandr is used to configure
it. Configuration via /etc/X11/xorg.con* files and syntax that worked in
older servers such as 1.10.4 is what is broken for ATI, Intel and
NVidia.

I haven't tested scaling except briefly, and successfully, via xrandr
only, in e.g. 1.16rc1.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 881046]

2014-04-08 Thread Felix Miata
As the summary is currently written, this bug is INVALID. Panning works
at least as far back as 1.13.2-1.21.1.i586 in openSUSE 12.3
(i865G,rv200), in addition to current 1.15.x and 1.16rc1 servers in
Fedora, Mageia, and openSUSE, but only when xrandr is used to configure
it. Configuration via /etc/X11/xorg.con* files and syntax that worked in
older servers such as 1.10.4 is what is broken for ATI, Intel and
NVidia.

I haven't tested scaling except briefly, and successfully, via xrandr
only, in e.g. 1.16rc1.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 883319]

2014-04-04 Thread Felix Miata
For well over a week I've been first testing the success of panning for
various combinations of gfxcard, monitor and fb size in servers prior to
the changes resulting in this bug report and then same for installations
to which I've updated using the 94929 patch applied by Tobias Klausmann
in the openSUSE build-service. Initially the only recording I did of my
testing I reported here. After while I began recording in the form of
screenshots accompanied by the Xorg.#.log associated with each one.
These are available for perusal at http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Xorg/ . Among
them is one instance of a scaling test, 1.2x1.2 applied to a 1440x900
screen. The largest fb size I tested was 3840x2400. The newest gfxchip
used was a Intel 4000 series (G41). Others used are nv11, G84, rv200,
rv250, rv380, i865G, i915G  i945G. The highest resolution used was
1920x1080. Total success pairs there currently is 31, of which 14 are
pre-bug and 17 are server 1.16rc1. KDE3  KDE4 dominate the DEs
represented. A few are IceWM and Lxde.

The only outright failure so far was on i945G and 1.16rc1 on both
openSUSE 13.1  13.2, but after another system/xorg updates round those
inexplicable failures apparently solved themselves.

Among the overwhelming number of successes are many instances of
various forms of painting and mouse pointer trouble among the
configurations with the largest panning areas that always goes away if
panning is disabled. However, such problems are common to both old
servers and DEs as well as current ones. The painting problems don't
show up in any of the screenshots. Except for the comment 44 reported
failure of xorg.conf* to produce expected results, WRT to bounds and
sizes at least, the 94929 patch seems to be doing what it needs to do.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 881046]

2014-04-04 Thread Felix Miata
For well over a week I've been first testing the success of panning for
various combinations of gfxcard, monitor and fb size in servers prior to
the changes resulting in this bug report and then same for installations
to which I've updated using the 94929 patch applied by Tobias Klausmann
in the openSUSE build-service. Initially the only recording I did of my
testing I reported here. After while I began recording in the form of
screenshots accompanied by the Xorg.#.log associated with each one.
These are available for perusal at http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Xorg/ . Among
them is one instance of a scaling test, 1.2x1.2 applied to a 1440x900
screen. The largest fb size I tested was 3840x2400. The newest gfxchip
used was a Intel 4000 series (G41). Others used are nv11, G84, rv200,
rv250, rv380, i865G, i915G  i945G. The highest resolution used was
1920x1080. Total success pairs there currently is 31, of which 14 are
pre-bug and 17 are server 1.16rc1. KDE3  KDE4 dominate the DEs
represented. A few are IceWM and Lxde.

The only outright failure so far was on i945G and 1.16rc1 on both
openSUSE 13.1  13.2, but after another system/xorg updates round those
inexplicable failures apparently solved themselves.

Among the overwhelming number of successes are many instances of
various forms of painting and mouse pointer trouble among the
configurations with the largest panning areas that always goes away if
panning is disabled. However, such problems are common to both old
servers and DEs as well as current ones. The painting problems don't
show up in any of the screenshots. Except for the comment 44 reported
failure of xorg.conf* to produce expected results, WRT to bounds and
sizes at least, the 94929 patch seems to be doing what it needs to do.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 883319]

2014-03-28 Thread Felix Miata
Via xrandr, 94929 patch also tested working apparently OK for:
ATI rv380 VGA  DVI ports 1680x1050 on 1280x1024
Intel G41 VGA  HDMI ports 1680x1050 on 1280x1024
Nouveau G84 DVI port 1680x1050 on 1280x1024. with  without DVI-to-VGA adapter
Nouveau G84 DVI port 2048x1152  2560x1600  3840x2160 on 1440x900 with 
DVI-to-VGA adapter

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 881046]

2014-03-28 Thread Felix Miata
Via xrandr, 94929 patch also tested working apparently OK for:
ATI rv380 VGA  DVI ports 1680x1050 on 1280x1024
Intel G41 VGA  HDMI ports 1680x1050 on 1280x1024
Nouveau G84 DVI port 1680x1050 on 1280x1024. with  without DVI-to-VGA adapter
Nouveau G84 DVI port 2048x1152  2560x1600  3840x2160 on 1440x900 with 
DVI-to-VGA adapter

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 883319]

2014-03-28 Thread Felix Miata
With the g84 on 1080 HDTV, apparently scaling, which I never tried before, is 
working too:
$ xrandr --output DVI-I-1 --scale 1.2x1.2
(Assorted X data collected via script):
# grep PRETTY /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME=openSUSE 13.2 Milestone 0 (Harlequin) (x86_64)
# head -n16 /var/log/Xorg.0.log (beta warning stripped)
[31.305]
X.Org X Server 1.15.99.901 (1.16.0 RC 1)
Release Date: 2014-02-24
[31.305] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[31.305] Build Operating System: openSUSE SUSE LINUX
[31.305] Current Operating System: Linux big41 3.14.0-rc7-1-desktop #1 SMP 
PREEMPT Thu Mar 20 12:43:03 UTC 2014 (89fa272) x86_64
[31.305] Kernel command line: root=LABEL=os132h50 ipv6.disable=1 
net.ifnames=0 noresume splash=verbose vga=791 video=1024x768@60
# grep Output /var/log/Xorg.0.log | egrep -v 'disconnected|no monitor'
[31.653] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output DVI-I-1 connected
[31.653] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output DVI-I-1 using initial mode 1920x1080
# grep -v ^\# /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf | grep DisplaySize
grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf: no such file or directory
# grep -v ^\# /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep DisplaySize
grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: no such file or directory
# grep -v ^\# /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf | grep PreferredMode
grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf: no such file or directory
# grep -v ^\# /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep PreferredMode
# xrdb -query | grep dpi
grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: no such file or directory
# xdpyinfo | egrep 'dime|ution'
  dimensions:2304x1296 pixels (608x342 millimeters)
  resolution:96x96 dots per inch
# xrandr | head
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2304 x 1296, maximum 8192 x 8192
DVI-I-1 connected 2304x1296+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 
698mm x 393mm
   1920x1080  60.0*+   60.0 59.9 24.0 24.0
   1920x1080i 60.1 60.0
   1280x720   60.0 59.9
   1024x768   75.1 70.1 60.0
DVI-I-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 881046]

2014-03-28 Thread Felix Miata
With the g84 on 1080 HDTV, apparently scaling, which I never tried before, is 
working too:
$ xrandr --output DVI-I-1 --scale 1.2x1.2
(Assorted X data collected via script):
# grep PRETTY /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME=openSUSE 13.2 Milestone 0 (Harlequin) (x86_64)
# head -n16 /var/log/Xorg.0.log (beta warning stripped)
[31.305]
X.Org X Server 1.15.99.901 (1.16.0 RC 1)
Release Date: 2014-02-24
[31.305] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[31.305] Build Operating System: openSUSE SUSE LINUX
[31.305] Current Operating System: Linux big41 3.14.0-rc7-1-desktop #1 SMP 
PREEMPT Thu Mar 20 12:43:03 UTC 2014 (89fa272) x86_64
[31.305] Kernel command line: root=LABEL=os132h50 ipv6.disable=1 
net.ifnames=0 noresume splash=verbose vga=791 video=1024x768@60
# grep Output /var/log/Xorg.0.log | egrep -v 'disconnected|no monitor'
[31.653] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output DVI-I-1 connected
[31.653] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output DVI-I-1 using initial mode 1920x1080
# grep -v ^\# /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf | grep DisplaySize
grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf: no such file or directory
# grep -v ^\# /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep DisplaySize
grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: no such file or directory
# grep -v ^\# /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf | grep PreferredMode
grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf: no such file or directory
# grep -v ^\# /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep PreferredMode
# xrdb -query | grep dpi
grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: no such file or directory
# xdpyinfo | egrep 'dime|ution'
  dimensions:2304x1296 pixels (608x342 millimeters)
  resolution:96x96 dots per inch
# xrandr | head
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2304 x 1296, maximum 8192 x 8192
DVI-I-1 connected 2304x1296+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 
698mm x 393mm
   1920x1080  60.0*+   60.0 59.9 24.0 24.0
   1920x1080i 60.1 60.0
   1280x720   60.0 59.9
   1024x768   75.1 70.1 60.0
DVI-I-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 883319]

2014-03-26 Thread Felix Miata
Created attachment 96397
Xorg.0.log from i915 host gx280 having used xrandr to produce panning from 
94929 patch

This seems to be unusually verbose for the brief time X was running,
with few apps opened.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 883319]

2014-03-26 Thread Felix Miata
Comment 43 applies to use of xorg.conf in attempting to produce desired
X configuration, e.g. xorg.conf for Intel gfx containing:

Section Device
Identifier Default Device
Option monitor-VGA1 Default Monitor
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier  Default Monitor
Option DPMS off
DisplaySize 405 253 # 120 DPI @ 1920x1200  virtual
Option PreferredMode 1440x900
Option Panning 1920x1200
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Default Screen
Device  Default Device
Monitor Default Monitor
EndSection

produces expected results for server 1.9.3, but not for server
1.16.0RC1. Functional panning matching that produced by the above
xorg.conf can be at least mostly achieved in i915 via xrandr as follows:

xrandr --dpi 120 --fb 1920x1200 --output VGA1 --mode 1440x900 --panning 
1920x1200
or
xrandr --fbmm 405x253 --fb 1920x1200 --output VGA1 --mode 1440x900 --panning 
1920x1200

A remaining problem therefore exists that did not exist prior to the
server changes made that made this bug report necessary in the first
place, that xorg.conf no longer does what xrandr can, as xorg.conf used
to be able to do. This is new with the 96204 patch, as with the 56408
patch and server 1.12.3, xorg.conf gets the job done as expected.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 881046]

2014-03-26 Thread Felix Miata
Created attachment 96397
Xorg.0.log from i915 host gx280 having used xrandr to produce panning from 
94929 patch

This seems to be unusually verbose for the brief time X was running,
with few apps opened.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 881046]

2014-03-26 Thread Felix Miata
Comment 43 applies to use of xorg.conf in attempting to produce desired
X configuration, e.g. xorg.conf for Intel gfx containing:

Section Device
Identifier Default Device
Option monitor-VGA1 Default Monitor
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier  Default Monitor
Option DPMS off
DisplaySize 405 253 # 120 DPI @ 1920x1200  virtual
Option PreferredMode 1440x900
Option Panning 1920x1200
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Default Screen
Device  Default Device
Monitor Default Monitor
EndSection

produces expected results for server 1.9.3, but not for server
1.16.0RC1. Functional panning matching that produced by the above
xorg.conf can be at least mostly achieved in i915 via xrandr as follows:

xrandr --dpi 120 --fb 1920x1200 --output VGA1 --mode 1440x900 --panning 
1920x1200
or
xrandr --fbmm 405x253 --fb 1920x1200 --output VGA1 --mode 1440x900 --panning 
1920x1200

A remaining problem therefore exists that did not exist prior to the
server changes made that made this bug report necessary in the first
place, that xorg.conf no longer does what xrandr can, as xorg.conf used
to be able to do. This is new with the 96204 patch, as with the 56408
patch and server 1.12.3, xorg.conf gets the job done as expected.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 881046]

2014-03-22 Thread Felix Miata
Created attachment 96204
Xorg.0.log from 92915G host gx280

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/tobijk:/X11:/XOrg/openSUSE_Factory/i586/
ostensibly has the attachment 94929 patch applied, which I installed on
nv11, rv250 and i915G systems running X.Org X Server 1.15.99.901.

# rpm -q --changelog xorg-x11-server | head -n8
* Fri Mar 21 2014 tobias.johannes.klausmann@...
- Add patch u_randr_account_for_panning_and_transform_when_creating_cursor.patch
  (patch230)
  (BNC#771521), (FDO#39949)

I could not detect any difference before or after installing the
xorg-x11-server version 7.6_1.15.99.901.8-393.1 that includes the patch,
plus its dependencies. IOW, pointer could not reach right or bottom
screen edges before or after installing with any of the ati, intel or
nouveau drivers.

Ati and nouveau test logs are available on request.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 883319]

2014-03-22 Thread Felix Miata
Created attachment 96204
Xorg.0.log from 92915G host gx280

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/tobijk:/X11:/XOrg/openSUSE_Factory/i586/
ostensibly has the attachment 94929 patch applied, which I installed on
nv11, rv250 and i915G systems running X.Org X Server 1.15.99.901.

# rpm -q --changelog xorg-x11-server | head -n8
* Fri Mar 21 2014 tobias.johannes.klausmann@...
- Add patch u_randr_account_for_panning_and_transform_when_creating_cursor.patch
  (patch230)
  (BNC#771521), (FDO#39949)

I could not detect any difference before or after installing the
xorg-x11-server version 7.6_1.15.99.901.8-393.1 that includes the patch,
plus its dependencies. IOW, pointer could not reach right or bottom
screen edges before or after installing with any of the ati, intel or
nouveau drivers.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 883319]

2014-02-25 Thread Felix Miata
It seems clear that at least analog hardware users who require panning
and want or need to stick to FOSS solutions need to stick to out of
support Xorg versions and/or out of support drivers, and/or ancient
gfxchip technology (e.g.  MGA), and/or cheap (and usually slow) hardware
(e.g. #  XGI Technology Inc. (eXtreme Graphics Innovation) Z7/Z9 (XG20
core), a slug at 24 bit, tolerable at 16 bit as long as not extending
the desktop virtually as panning was made to do). It looks like users of
supported FOSS software versions and modern competent gfxchips are out
of options other than acquiring (digital?) displays big enough, or
acquiring additional (digital?) video ports and (digital?) displays, to
cover their otherwise virtual needs.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 881046]

2014-02-25 Thread Felix Miata
It seems clear that at least analog hardware users who require panning
and want or need to stick to FOSS solutions need to stick to out of
support Xorg versions and/or out of support drivers, and/or ancient
gfxchip technology (e.g.  MGA), and/or cheap (and usually slow) hardware
(e.g. #  XGI Technology Inc. (eXtreme Graphics Innovation) Z7/Z9 (XG20
core), a slug at 24 bit, tolerable at 16 bit as long as not extending
the desktop virtually as panning was made to do). It looks like users of
supported FOSS software versions and modern competent gfxchips are out
of options other than acquiring (digital?) displays big enough, or
acquiring additional (digital?) video ports and (digital?) displays, to
cover their otherwise virtual needs.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 589485]

2013-06-27 Thread Felix Miata
More from that IRC conversation:
alesguzik I'm not asking about making it default, but when screen size can be 
detected and resolution is known, what is the problem with dpi?
alesguzik It worked at some point in the past
ohsix it never worked

Ohsix's definition of never must be different from the dictionary's.
As alesguzik said, automatically matching DPI to display density did
work in the past:

$ cat /etc/SuSE-release
openSUSE 10.2 (i586)
VERSION = 10.2
$ head -n15 /var/log/Xorg.0.log | tail -n6
X Window System Version 7.1.99.902 (7.2.0 RC 2)
Release Date: 13 November 2006
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.99.902
Build Operating System: openSUSE SUSE LINUX
Current Operating System: Linux m7ncd 2.6.18.8-0.10-default #1 SMP Wed Jun 4 
15:46:34 UTC 2008 i686
Build Date: 02 June 2008
$ grep Output /var/log/Xorg.0.log | egrep -v 'disconnected|no monitor'
$ grep -v ^\# /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf | grep DisplaySize
grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf: No such file or directory
$ grep -v ^\# /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep DisplaySize
$ grep -v ^\# /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf | grep PreferredMode
grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf: No such file or directory
$ grep -v ^\# /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep PreferredMode
$ xrdb -query | grep dpi
$ xdpyinfo | egrep 'dime|ution'
  dimensions:1600x1200 pixels (402x302 millimeters)
  resolution:101x101 dots per inch
$ xrandr | head -n5
 SZ:Pixels  Physical   Refresh
*0   1600 x 1200   ( 402mm x 302mm )  *85   75   70   65   60
 1   1400 x 1050   ( 402mm x 302mm )   75   60
 2   1280 x 960( 402mm x 302mm )   85   60
 3   1152 x 864( 402mm x 302mm )   75

more Xorg.0.log excerpts:
(II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on port 1 --
(II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: NEC  Model: 61da  Serial#: 5356
(II) RADEON(0): Year: 2002  Week: 39
(--) RADEON(0): Virtual size is 1600x1200 (pitch 1664)
(**) RADEON(0): *Default mode 1600x1200: 229.5 MHz, 106.2 kHz, 85.0 Hz
(--) RADEON(0): Display dimensions: (400, 300) mm
(--) RADEON(0): DPI set to (101, 101)
$ xrandr -v
Server reports RandR version 1.1


$ cat /etc/SuSE-release
openSUSE 10.2 (i586)
VERSION = 10.2
$ head -n15 /var/log/Xorg.0.log | tail -n6
X Window System Version 7.1.99.902 (7.2.0 RC 2)
Release Date: 13 November 2006
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.99.902
Build Operating System: openSUSE SUSE LINUX
Current Operating System: Linux m7ncd 2.6.18.8-0.10-default #1 SMP Wed Jun 4 
15:46:34 UTC 2008 i686
Build Date: 02 June 2008
$ grep Output /var/log/Xorg.0.log | egrep -v 'disconnected|no monitor'
$ grep -v ^\# /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep DisplaySize
$ grep -v ^\# /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep PreferredMode
$ xrdb -query | grep dpi
$ xdpyinfo | egrep 'dime|ution'
  dimensions:1920x1440 pixels (403x302 millimeters)
  resolution:121x121 dots per inch
$ xrandr | head -n5
 SZ:Pixels  Physical   Refresh
*0   1920 x 1440   ( 403mm x 302mm )  *75   60
 1   1856 x 1392   ( 403mm x 302mm )   75   60
 2   1792 x 1344   ( 403mm x 302mm )   75   60
 3   1600 x 1200   ( 403mm x 302mm )   85   75   70   65   60
$ xrandr -v
Server reports RandR version 1.1

more Xorg.0.log excerpts:
(II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on port 1 --
(II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: NEC  Model: 61da  Serial#: 5356
(II) RADEON(0): Year: 2002  Week: 39
(--) RADEON(0): Virtual size is 1920x1440 (pitch 1920)
(**) RADEON(0): *Default mode 1920x1440: 297.0 MHz, 112.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz
(--) RADEON(0): Display dimensions: (400, 300) mm
(--) RADEON(0): DPI set to (121, 121)

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 881046]

2013-04-11 Thread Felix Miata
If it hasn't happened already, the supply of supported distros that
feature working panning should be exhausted soon. Is there anything non-
programmers can do to facilitate a programmer fixing this?

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 883319]

2013-04-11 Thread Felix Miata
If it hasn't happened already, the supply of supported distros that
feature working panning should be exhausted soon. Is there anything non-
programmers can do to facilitate a programmer fixing this?

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 881046]

2012-10-22 Thread Felix Miata
(In reply to comment #31)
 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/bjoernv:/branches:/openSUSE:/
 12.2:/Update/standard/
 
As indicated in downstream https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771521 
these work for me with Intel 865G and NVidia G84.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 883319]

2012-10-22 Thread Felix Miata
(In reply to comment #31)
 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/bjoernv:/branches:/openSUSE:/
 12.2:/Update/standard/
 
As indicated in downstream https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771521 
these work for me with Intel 865G and NVidia G84.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 521877]

2012-08-22 Thread Felix Miata
(In reply to comment #55)
 Please use the correct dpi by default.

If it doesn't, it's usually:

1-your distro's fault, or
2-your hardware's fault, or
3-your use of unequal DPI multiple displays, which is a complicated problem for 
X to deal with

X automagic configuration will fall back to 96 if there's a problem with
your hardware supplying the info automagic needs to work, while many
distros force 96, in part because it makes web browsers behave like
Windows on a not insignificant number of web sites, and in another part
because DTEs are behind the development curve on adapting fonts, icons
and initial window sizes to high DPI displays. Resolution independence
is needed, but not available, either from most web sites, or most DTE
components.

OTOH, as long as you're sticking to one display, you can force correct
DPI via xrandr, xorg.conf.d/, xorg.conf, xinitrc, proprietary nvidia
driver and/or several other documented ways if bothered by inaccurate
automagic or distro forcing.

If your distro maker is forcing 96, complain to it.

Just because xorg.conf is not used by default does not mean you cannot
use it to enjoy accurate DPI.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 521877]

2012-08-22 Thread Felix Miata
Created attachment 43316
Xorg.0.log from server 1.9.3 using 86x86 DPI on i845G

(In reply to comment #57)
 Isn't this bug precisely about X.org *always ignoring* the hardware DPI value
 from the EDID?

There may have been a time when that was the case, but this was filed by
an Intel video user long before KMS was required by the Intel driver.
Obviously from the attachment, using no xorg.conf, xrandr, xorg.conf.d/
or anything else to force DPI, always is not the much more recent
case. Display used is 20 4:3 1400x1050 Viewsonic several years old.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 521877]

2012-08-22 Thread Felix Miata
Created attachment 43320
86 DPI screenshot

What do I win? :-)

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 521877]

2012-08-22 Thread Felix Miata
The bug is marked general, not Intel. Various comments spoke of at least
one other chip prior to my MGA comment 58. Before your comment 58
reached my eyes, I had to put that Intel host aside to work on the MGA
host, so I used that to demonstrate what I wrote in comment 58, that
always is incorrect.

That said, I reread comment 6, which does indicate manual intervention
via config file or xrandr is normally required to achieve accurate DPI,
normal meaning ATI, Intel or NVidia, chips that have current version
xrandr-supported drivers.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 521877]

2012-08-22 Thread Felix Miata
Created attachment 45751
120 DPI full 1600x1200 desktop screenshot

This demonstrates the current state of elevated actual DTE DPI affairs,
as of the release of openSUSE 11.4 about 5 weeks ago. Video chip is
rv380. Driver is radeon. 120 DPI is achieved exclusively via DisplaySize
in xorg.conf. Note that all apps are using the same font for the UI
(urlbars, main menu), but that web browser viewports are of two schools:

1-Those forcing 96 DPI (WebKit in Google Chrome 7.0.517.44 and Epiphany 2.30.6, 
Opera 11.01)
2-Those using the DTE's DPI. (Gecko pre-rv2.0 in Firefox 3.6.16, KHTML in 
Konqueror 4.6)

Note that Gecko rv2+ also forces to 96 in the usual cases, but provides
a workaround (mozmm) that allows pages to size to match DTE DPI, which
http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/Font/font-vera.html in the screenshots does,
and means all of Firefox 3.x, SeaMonkey 2.0.x, Firefox 4.x  SeaMonkey
2.1x will render it the same if the DTE DPI is 96 or above.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 521877]

2012-08-22 Thread Felix Miata
(In reply to comment #77)
 (Chrome already does so, in a misguided attempt to force a constant ratio
 between px and pt across all websites. 

Chrome does because it's built on WebKit, where 96 as the only
possibility is the traditional Macintosh way, which became also the
Internet Explorer default behavior back in v7 or v8.

 Firefox still seems to respect the system DPI by default, AFAICT.)

Since 2010/08/18 in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=537890
it only does so in the UI, not in web page content, where it now copies
the IE, Chrome and Safari insanity. You can see the impact by using it
to view both http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/dpi-screen-windowg.html (old
edition that worked as expected before that fix), and http://fm.no-
ip.com/Auth/dpi-screen-window.html (modified version that can be
accurate only in Geckos, Konq, and most old browsers). Its behavior can
be impacted by two hidden preferences, layout.css.dpi (integer) 
layout.css.devPixelsPerPx (a string parsed as a float), the former of
which defaults to -1, and the latter to 1.0.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 883319]

2012-07-14 Thread Felix Miata
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771521 explains how panning
works for me using Radeon but not Intel or Nouveau.

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  xrandr --scale restricts area in which mouse moves

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 881046]

2012-07-14 Thread Felix Miata
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771521 explains how panning
works for me using Radeon but not Intel or Nouveau.

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Title:
  Panning in a virtual monitor is not possible after upgrade to Ubuntu
  11.10

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 883319]

2012-06-12 Thread Felix Miata
FWIW: I don't try to use randr directly to set up panning. I do it
either through xorg.conf or xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf because I'm
usually controlling DPI via DisplaySize, limiting VertRefresh to 60 or
75, turning DPMS  DDC off, and turning DefaultModes on. It would be
nice if TargetRefreshRate ever worked.

I don't use small displays either. Mostly I use CRTs as described on
http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2012-June/031652.html

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 881046]

2012-06-12 Thread Felix Miata
FWIW: I don't try to use randr directly to set up panning. I do it
either through xorg.conf or xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf because I'm
usually controlling DPI via DisplaySize, limiting VertRefresh to 60 or
75, turning DPMS  DDC off, and turning DefaultModes on. It would be
nice if TargetRefreshRate ever worked.

I don't use small displays either. Mostly I use CRTs as described on
http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2012-June/031652.html

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Title:
  Panning in a virtual monitor is not possible after upgrade to Ubuntu
  11.10

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 883319]

2012-06-11 Thread Felix Miata
For the record, openSUSE Factory (devel) is currently @ 1.12.2, where
panning for me is working OK with radeon/rv200, but not with nouveau or
intel drivers.

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[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 881046]

2012-06-11 Thread Felix Miata
For the record, openSUSE Factory (devel) is currently @ 1.12.2, where
panning for me is working OK with radeon/rv200, but not with nouveau or
intel drivers.

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