[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 378391] Re: Source rename clobbered local changes (so tapping not working in Karmic)
Same for me, will test some more and give info (again!) -- Source rename clobbered local changes (so tapping not working in Karmic) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/378391 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 378391] Re: Source rename clobbered local changes (so tapping not working in Karmic)
Looking in synaptic there has been no upgrade to xserver-xorg-input- synaptics and changing the options in gpointing-device-settings they don't work because there is probably a problem caused by the udev/devicekit/whatever switch. This works in Fedora which switched first so they may be doing something we are not. This is however probably a separate bug (the settings never worked in this version). -- Source rename clobbered local changes (so tapping not working in Karmic) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/378391 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 378391] Re: Source rename clobbered local changes (so tapping not working in Karmic)
It it worth talking about taking this change upstream? The default behaviour simply cannot be considered sensible as tap to click is an expected and useful feature which many touchpads are designed in the expectation of. Mine at least is almost impossible to use without it. -- Source rename clobbered local changes (so tapping not working in Karmic) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/378391 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 380126] Re: [Karmic] Touchpad not recognised correctly, synaptics driver not in use
I would presume then that the bug is in the options being applied then, in this case I think that Fedora is either using a newer version or a patch as they have more options and it actually workes. Now that the touchpad settings dialogue has gone upstream (from the Ubuntu patch), I presume we just need to make sure that a sufficiently new version is used and that there is not a Ubuntu patch clobbering the upstream version. Of course I might be completely wrong but this seems the solution. -- [Karmic] Touchpad not recognised correctly, synaptics driver not in use https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/380126 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 380126] Re: [Karmic] Touchpad not recognised correctly, synaptics driver not in use
Tap to click is an essential feature to enable by default. From experience it was incessantly annoying when disabled by default in fedora. Quite a lot of newer laptops (including my eeePc) depend on it as the either have harder to click physical buttons or some have none at all. Fedora seems to have a better version of the options panel which allows control of tap to click. For whatever reason the options do not work in the karmic version so that is what this bug is about (I think), if the default options are different then old versions and are being applied as expected then I will file another bug for it. Users generally expect their touchpads to be fully functional out of the box and do not want to look around the options just to get basic stuff to work. I am a big fan of two finger scrolling but it should be enables as well as traditional edge scrolling (touchpads have marking on them giving the expectation of it) as well, both vertically and horizontally. Right, that is enough antagonising for now - good luck in sorting everything out for another great release :-) -- [Karmic] Touchpad not recognised correctly, synaptics driver not in use https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/380126 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 380126] Re: [Karmic] Touchpad not recognised correctly, synaptics driver not in use
Right, would most people agree that brainstorm is the right place or IRC or the forums? Apple only have to support their own products which are designed to work without tap to click. If you have every used eeePc's or some new smaller laptops the physical buttons are nearly unclickable so it is just about impossible to use with the current default settings. Maybe being device dependant it should be disabled for certain devices where it would cause issues with input rather than a whitelist (we can't test every device) as it is far more noticeable not to have an essential feature than to have one that not everyone would use. -- [Karmic] Touchpad not recognised correctly, synaptics driver not in use https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/380126 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 384641] [NEW] Karmic touchpad settings disabled tap to click
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics As first discussed in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source /xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/380126 the new default settings in the karmic alphas disable touch to click and other settings which on many laptops are essential for user to be able to comfortably and efficiently use their laptops. Many laptop touchpads have been designed to rely on feature such as touch to click and as a result due to factors such as their physical buttons can be painful or nigh impossible to use otherwise. Whereas some users may prefer the feature off, for the vast majority of users it useful or even essential and considering the touchpad is the point of physical interaction for users we have most control over we should continue to make it as exceptionally usable as it has been in past versions. I certainly could not do without it and will not be using my touchpads clunky buttons to submit this bug report :-) ** Affects: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Karmic touchpad settings disabled tap to click https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/384641 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 380126] Re: [Karmic] Touchpad not recognised correctly, synaptics driver not in use
@Conn You are completely right - as I said before this issue is about the inability for the options to be correctly applied and not about the default options. I have created a new bug report here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/384641 and will look in to anyone's suggestions about wider discussion. Anyone who wants to debate that issue should reply there although it can be said to depend on this bug. Right, over and out... -- [Karmic] Touchpad not recognised correctly, synaptics driver not in use https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/380126 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 384641] Re: Karmic touchpad settings disabled tap to click
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 378391 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/378391 ** Description changed: Binary package hint: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics As first discussed in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source /xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/380126 the new default settings in the karmic alphas disable touch to click and other settings which on many laptops are essential for user to be able to comfortably and efficiently use their laptops. Many laptop touchpads have been designed to rely on feature such as touch to click and as a result due to factors such as their physical buttons can be painful or nigh impossible to use otherwise. Whereas some users may prefer the feature off, for the vast majority of users it useful or even essential and considering the touchpad is the point of physical interaction for users we have most control over we should continue to make it as exceptionally usable as it has been in past versions. - I certainly could not do without it and will not be using my touchpads + I certainly could not do without it and will not be using my touchpad's clunky buttons to submit this bug report :-) ** Tags added: click karmic tap to touchpad ** Tags added: regression-potential settings ** Tags removed: click tap to -- Karmic touchpad settings disabled tap to click https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/384641 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 380126] Re: [Karmic] Touchpad not recognised correctly, synaptics driver not in use
This regression is probably caused by the switch to udev. Is anyone with a Synaptics touchpad not experiencing it? -- [Karmic] Touchpad not recognised correctly, synaptics driver not in use https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/380126 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
