[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 572310] Re: font rendering of shaded text unreadable
No, this was fixed in one of the later ATI drivers. You can close it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-ati in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/572310 Title: font rendering of shaded text unreadable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/572310/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 871344] Re: Jockey cannot install FGLRX (AMD Graphics Driver)
This looks like the same bug as #873058, which is marked against fglrx (not fglrx-installer). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/871344 Title: Jockey cannot install FGLRX (AMD Graphics Driver) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/871344/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 576288] Re: second screen in dualhead setup doesn't refresh properly until reconfigured
No activity on this for a while, but I would like to mention that this bug is still present in 11.10. Unity now works in dualhead. Both monitors are at 1680x1050 btw. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-ati in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/576288 Title: second screen in dualhead setup doesn't refresh properly until reconfigured To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/576288/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 576288] Re: second screen in dualhead setup doesn't refresh properly until reconfigured
This same problem indeed still occurs in natty. That unity doesn't work is probably somehow related to this as well. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-ati in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/576288 Title: second screen in dualhead setup doesn't refresh properly until reconfigured ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 614269] Re: x locks up after putting display to sleep and at random instances
Log from after a recent crash (blank screen) attached. Nothing in there that I can tell. ** Attachment added: Xorg.0.log.old https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/614269/+attachment/1533746/+files/Xorg.0.log.old -- x locks up after putting display to sleep and at random instances https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/614269 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-ati in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 614269] Re: x locks up after putting display to sleep and at random instances
I will do as soon as I reproduce it again. I haven't found a reliable way to trigger it so this might take a while. It seems to me this is an interaction with the DRM code, meaning the kernel locks up completely and logging just stops, so it's possible nothing ever gets written to the log file to give any indication to the problem. Which, I realise, makes this a very hard problem to track down. It does seem to happen more reliably when the machine is under load. I don't really see it happening when I'm just letting my laptop run, but when I have some remote session open, a few browser windows, my mail etc, it seems to happen a lot more quickly. -- x locks up after putting display to sleep and at random instances https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/614269 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-ati in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 614269] [NEW] x locks up after putting display to sleep and at random instances
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: xserver-xorg-video-ati On this laptop I have frequent issues with X hanging up. It hangs in two (possibly not related) ways: 1) When in power management put display to sleep... is enabled, letting it go to sleep will frequently make it lock up. Input will not bring the screen back up and the machine no longer responds to pings etc. No particular output is logged in syslog. 2) at seemingly random times the display will corrupt (showing a repeating pattern, for example just a couple green/blue lines repeated over the length of the screen) and the machine becomes unresponsive. I've not been able to track down the source, though at this point I'm pretty sure it's related to the drivers and not the hardware (have replaced some of it). It happens pretty consistently, at least a couple times a day when intensively using the machine, usually with several apps such as eclipse and firefox open. It's been a problem since at least the previous release. This is an ati radeon xpress 1100 card in an acer 5102WLMi laptop running on lucid with version 1:6.13.0-1ubuntu5 of the driver. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04 Package: xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.13.0-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-24.39-generic 2.6.32.15+drm33.5 Uname: Linux 2.6.32-24-generic i686 Architecture: i386 Date: Fri Aug 6 10:59:20 2010 DkmsStatus: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory Lsusb: Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0402:5602 ALi Corp. Video Camera Controller Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub MachineType: Acer Aspire 5100 PccardctlIdent: Socket 0: no product info available PccardctlStatus: Socket 0: no card ProcCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-generic root=/dev/mapper/hostname-root ro quiet splash SourcePackage: xserver-xorg-video-ati dmi.bios.date: 08/03/2006 dmi.bios.vendor: Acer dmi.bios.version: V2.00 dmi.board.name: Navarro dmi.board.vendor: Acer dmi.board.version: N/A dmi.chassis.asset.tag: dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: Acer dmi.chassis.version: N/A dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnAcer:bvrV2.00:bd08/03/2006:svnAcer:pnAspire5100:pvrV2.00:rvnAcer:rnNavarro:rvrN/A:cvnAcer:ct10:cvrN/A: dmi.product.name: Aspire 5100 dmi.product.version: V2.00 dmi.sys.vendor: Acer glxinfo: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory system: distro: Ubuntu codename: lucid architecture: i686 kernel: 2.6.32-24-generic ** Affects: xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-bug i386 lucid -- x locks up after putting display to sleep and at random instances https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/614269 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-ati in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 614269] Re: x locks up after putting display to sleep and at random instances
** Attachment added: BootDmesg.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156020/BootDmesg.txt ** Attachment added: CurrentDmesg.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156021/CurrentDmesg.txt ** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156022/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: GdmLog.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156023/GdmLog.txt ** Attachment added: GdmLog1.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156024/GdmLog1.txt ** Attachment added: GdmLog2.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156025/GdmLog2.txt ** Attachment added: Lspci.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156026/Lspci.txt ** Attachment added: PciDisplay.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156027/PciDisplay.txt ** Attachment added: ProcCpuinfo.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156028/ProcCpuinfo.txt ** Attachment added: ProcEnviron.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156029/ProcEnviron.txt ** Attachment added: ProcInterrupts.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156030/ProcInterrupts.txt ** Attachment added: ProcModules.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156031/ProcModules.txt ** Attachment added: RelatedPackageVersions.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156032/RelatedPackageVersions.txt ** Attachment added: UdevDb.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156033/UdevDb.txt ** Attachment added: UdevLog.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156034/UdevLog.txt ** Attachment added: XorgLog.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156035/XorgLog.txt ** Attachment added: XorgLogOld.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156036/XorgLogOld.txt ** Attachment added: Xrandr.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156037/Xrandr.txt ** Attachment added: setxkbmap.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156038/setxkbmap.txt ** Attachment added: xdpyinfo.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156039/xdpyinfo.txt ** Attachment added: xkbcomp.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53156040/xkbcomp.txt -- x locks up after putting display to sleep and at random instances https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/614269 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-ati in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 572310] Re: font rendering of shaded text unreadable
Oddly enough this also affects the propietary drivers. I wonder whether there's a workaround, as I can't seem to find much other instances of this problem reported elsewhere? -- font rendering of shaded text unreadable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/572310 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-ati in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 576288] [NEW] second screen in dualhead setup doesn't refresh properly until reconfigured
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: xserver-xorg-video-ati When logging in, each time the background on the right screen in my dualhead setup doesn't seem to repaint properly. Whenever I drag a window over it, it's showing trails of the window, indicating that the background is broken. I can also not right click on the background to get the nautilus menu (create Folder etc.). Going into preferences and disabling, then re-enabling the right monitor fixes it, until the next restart of X. It seems very similar to bug #378482, reported against the intel video drivers, but since fixed apparently. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04 Package: xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.13.0-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-22.33-generic 2.6.32.11+drm33.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.32-22-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Thu May 6 10:21:10 2010 DkmsStatus: blcr, 0.8.2, 2.6.31-21-generic, x86_64: installed blcr, 0.8.2, 2.6.32-22-generic, x86_64: installed virtualbox-ose, 3.1.6, 2.6.31-21-generic, x86_64: installed virtualbox-ose, 3.1.6, 2.6.32-22-generic, x86_64: installed MachineType: Dell Inc. OptiPlex 960 ProcCmdLine: root=UUID=d2cdb369-1d00-4875-b764-6e0a2ea51c34 ro quiet splash SourcePackage: xserver-xorg-video-ati dmi.bios.date: 04/29/2009 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0H634K dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A00 dmi.chassis.type: 6 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA04:bd04/29/2009:svnDellInc.:pnOptiPlex960:pvr:rvnDellInc.:rn0H634K:rvrA00:cvnDellInc.:ct6:cvr: dmi.product.name: OptiPlex 960 dmi.sys.vendor: Dell Inc. system: distro: Ubuntu codename: lucid architecture: x86_64 kernel: 2.6.32-22-generic ** Affects: xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: amd64 apport-bug lucid -- second screen in dualhead setup doesn't refresh properly until reconfigured https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/576288 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-ati in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 576288] Re: second screen in dualhead setup doesn't refresh properly until reconfigured
** Attachment added: BootDmesg.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919144/BootDmesg.txt ** Attachment added: CurrentDmesg.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919145/CurrentDmesg.txt ** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919146/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: GdmLog.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919147/GdmLog.txt ** Attachment added: GdmLog1.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919148/GdmLog1.txt ** Attachment added: GdmLog2.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919149/GdmLog2.txt ** Attachment added: Lspci.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919150/Lspci.txt ** Attachment added: Lsusb.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919151/Lsusb.txt ** Attachment added: PciDisplay.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919152/PciDisplay.txt ** Attachment added: ProcCpuinfo.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919153/ProcCpuinfo.txt ** Attachment added: ProcEnviron.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919154/ProcEnviron.txt ** Attachment added: ProcInterrupts.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919155/ProcInterrupts.txt ** Attachment added: ProcModules.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919156/ProcModules.txt ** Attachment added: RelatedPackageVersions.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919157/RelatedPackageVersions.txt ** Attachment added: UdevDb.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919158/UdevDb.txt ** Attachment added: UdevLog.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919159/UdevLog.txt ** Attachment added: XorgConf.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919160/XorgConf.txt ** Attachment added: XorgLog.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919161/XorgLog.txt ** Attachment added: XorgLogOld.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919162/XorgLogOld.txt ** Attachment added: Xrandr.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919163/Xrandr.txt ** Attachment added: glxinfo.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919164/glxinfo.txt ** Attachment added: monitors.xml.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919165/monitors.xml.txt ** Attachment added: setxkbmap.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919166/setxkbmap.txt ** Attachment added: xdpyinfo.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919167/xdpyinfo.txt ** Attachment added: xkbcomp.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47919168/xkbcomp.txt -- second screen in dualhead setup doesn't refresh properly until reconfigured https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/576288 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-ati in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 572310] [NEW] font rendering of shaded text unreadable
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: xorg In ubuntu 10.04 and 9.10, when rendering text that has a background shading, this shading shows up as a dark blocky background, making the text unreadable. I will attach a screenshot with an example (one of many) in firefox. It also shows up in other places throughout the OS, such as when switching to a new song in banshee, on the fade in/fade out effects. I previously reported this against the wrong package and a worse description as #502336. I initially thought this was related to not using compiz, but I am using compiz (desktop effects) and it is still rendering wrongly. My machines happen to all be running (different) ati cards. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04 Package: xorg 1:7.5+5ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-22.33-generic 2.6.32.11+drm33.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.32-22-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Fri Apr 30 14:43:21 2010 DkmsStatus: blcr, 0.8.2, 2.6.31-21-generic, x86_64: installed blcr, 0.8.2, 2.6.32-22-generic, x86_64: installed virtualbox-ose, 3.1.6, 2.6.31-21-generic, x86_64: installed virtualbox-ose, 3.1.6, 2.6.32-22-generic, x86_64: installed MachineType: Dell Inc. OptiPlex 960 ProcCmdLine: root=UUID=d2cdb369-1d00-4875-b764-6e0a2ea51c34 ro quiet splash SourcePackage: xorg dmi.bios.date: 04/29/2009 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0H634K dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A00 dmi.chassis.type: 6 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA04:bd04/29/2009:svnDellInc.:pnOptiPlex960:pvr:rvnDellInc.:rn0H634K:rvrA00:cvnDellInc.:ct6:cvr: dmi.product.name: OptiPlex 960 dmi.sys.vendor: Dell Inc. system: distro: Ubuntu codename: lucid architecture: x86_64 kernel: 2.6.32-22-generic ** Affects: xorg (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: amd64 apport-bug lucid -- font rendering of shaded text unreadable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/572310 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 572310] Re: font rendering of shaded text unreadable
** Attachment added: sidebar on http://farukat.es/journal/2010/01/374-battlefield-html5, how it looks and how it should look http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46595697/Screenshot.png ** Attachment added: BootDmesg.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594116/BootDmesg.txt ** Attachment added: CurrentDmesg.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594117/CurrentDmesg.txt ** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594118/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: GdmLog.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594119/GdmLog.txt ** Attachment added: GdmLog1.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594120/GdmLog1.txt ** Attachment added: GdmLog2.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594121/GdmLog2.txt ** Attachment added: Lspci.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594122/Lspci.txt ** Attachment added: Lsusb.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594123/Lsusb.txt ** Attachment added: PciDisplay.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594124/PciDisplay.txt ** Attachment added: ProcCpuinfo.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594125/ProcCpuinfo.txt ** Attachment added: ProcEnviron.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594126/ProcEnviron.txt ** Attachment added: ProcInterrupts.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594127/ProcInterrupts.txt ** Attachment added: ProcModules.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594128/ProcModules.txt ** Attachment added: RelatedPackageVersions.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594129/RelatedPackageVersions.txt ** Attachment added: UdevDb.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594130/UdevDb.txt ** Attachment added: UdevLog.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594131/UdevLog.txt ** Attachment added: XorgConf.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594132/XorgConf.txt ** Attachment added: XorgLog.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594133/XorgLog.txt ** Attachment added: XorgLogOld.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594135/XorgLogOld.txt ** Attachment added: Xrandr.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594136/Xrandr.txt ** Attachment added: glxinfo.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594137/glxinfo.txt ** Attachment added: monitors.xml.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594138/monitors.xml.txt ** Attachment added: setxkbmap.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594139/setxkbmap.txt ** Attachment added: xdpyinfo.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594140/xdpyinfo.txt ** Attachment added: xkbcomp.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46594141/xkbcomp.txt -- font rendering of shaded text unreadable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/572310 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 572310] Re: font rendering of shaded text unreadable
I looked a bit further. The text in the supplied screenshot has opacity:0.42;. So this is actually an opacity problem. -- font rendering of shaded text unreadable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/572310 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg in ubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
