[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 774999] Re: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware
I have an old machine with this intel graphics card: $ lspci -v|grep -i vga 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) I am using Kubuntu natty since a while now, and I never had a problem whatsoever. I only learned about this bug as I got the scary warning while trying to upgrade to oneiric. Should I be worried? Is there something useful I can do? I have arrived to natty via an upgrade, and I always kept all desktop effects deactivated, I guess that may be why I never had any issues. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-intel in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/774999 Title: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/774999/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 774999] Re: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware
** Also affects: baltix Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-intel in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/774999 Title: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/774999/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 774999] Re: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware
The upgrade warning message still says Your graphics hardware may not be fully supported in Ubuntu 11.04. when upgrading to Ubuntu 11.10. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-intel in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/774999 Title: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/774999/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 774999] Re: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware
How about a text like this: [WARNING] Your graphics hardware may not be fully supported in Ubuntu 11.04. The support for your graphics hardware is limited and you may encounter problems after the upgrade. Do you want to continue with the upgrade? [yes] [no] -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-intel in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/774999 Title: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/774999/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 774999] Re: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware
Btw, this makes me wonder why we did not keep the old i810 driver around. Given that we have support for xserver-xorg-video-s3 with cards like Trio64 it seems like keeping old drivers working is possible without too much maintenance work (but I may be totally wrong here ;). And the old i810 driver did work reasonable on the old cards at least in my experience. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-intel in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/774999 Title: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/774999/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 774999] Re: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware
From the intel_driver.h it appears the relevant PCIIDs are (8086 for the vendor): #ifndef PCI_CHIP_I810 #define PCI_CHIP_I810 0x7121 #define PCI_CHIP_I810_DC1000x7123 #define PCI_CHIP_I810_E0x7125 #define PCI_CHIP_I815 0x1132 #define PCI_CHIP_I810_BRIDGE 0x7120 #define PCI_CHIP_I810_DC100_BRIDGE 0x7122 #define PCI_CHIP_I810_E_BRIDGE 0x7124 #define PCI_CHIP_I815_BRIDGE 0x1130 #endif #ifndef PCI_CHIP_I830_M #define PCI_CHIP_I830_M0x3577 #define PCI_CHIP_I830_M_BRIDGE 0x3575 #endif #ifndef PCI_CHIP_845_G #define PCI_CHIP_845_G 0x2562 #define PCI_CHIP_845_G_BRIDGE 0x2560 #endif #ifndef PCI_CHIP_I854 #define PCI_CHIP_I854 0x358E #define PCI_CHIP_I854_BRIDGE 0x358C #endif #ifndef PCI_CHIP_I855_GM #define PCI_CHIP_I855_GM 0x3582 #define PCI_CHIP_I855_GM_BRIDGE0x3580 #endif #ifndef PCI_CHIP_I865_G #define PCI_CHIP_I865_G0x2572 #define PCI_CHIP_I865_G_BRIDGE 0x2570 #endif -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-intel in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/774999 Title: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/774999/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 774999] Re: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware
** Changed in: update-manager (Ubuntu) Status: New = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-intel in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/774999 Title: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/774999/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 774999] Re: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware
** Branch linked: lp:update-manager -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-intel in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/774999 Title: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/774999/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 774999] Re: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware
This bug was fixed in the package update-manager - 1:0.151.5 --- update-manager (1:0.151.5) oneiric; urgency=low * DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeQuirks.py: - warn intel i8xx user that the upgrade to oneiric may cause issues with their particular graphics hardware (LP: #774999) * merge patch from eapache to fix the unity progress bars (LP: #796311) -- Michael Vogt michael.v...@ubuntu.com Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:04:27 +0200 ** Changed in: update-manager (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-intel in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/774999 Title: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/774999/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 774999] Re: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware
** Changed in: update-manager (Ubuntu) Milestone: oneiric-alpha-1 = oneiric-alpha-2 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-intel in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/774999 Title: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/774999/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 774999] Re: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware
** Changed in: update-manager (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Michael Vogt (mvo) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-intel in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/774999 Title: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 774999] Re: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware
Despite the sarcasm, a warning message is not a bad idea. Would save us maintainers from having to continually WONTFIX these types of bug reports. ** Description changed: - Binary package hint: xorg + [Problem] + Support for 8xx chipsets is dodgy at best, due to insufficient upstream testing/development/priorities. Users frequently experience regressions and problems, which they find annoying. + For distro maintenance, we typically prioritize development work around + 915 and higher, and recommend owners of older hardware work directly + with upstream filing bugs at bugzilla.freedesktop.org rather than + launchpad. + + This report requests a warning be presented to users on 8xx intel chips + that they're going to be pretty much on their own if they run into + problems, and so should do ample testing on their own using livecds and + whatnot before risking an upgrade. + + 10.04 LTS was the last release us distro maintainers really paid + attention to 8xx problems, and so 8xx owners must be cautious upgrading + beyond that. + + [Original Report] Posted from the X11 recovery session. None of the sessions works (except the recovery session, but that doesn't count) after upgrade from Maverick to Natty: - Ubuntu : a dialog box says the hadware is does not accept Unity, then screen is garbled (reboot from linux console) - Ubuntu Classic : screen is garbled (reboot from linux console) - Ubuntu Classic (no effects) : system freeze Why the upgrade did not warn me about the lack of support for this hardware? I would not have upgraded. Or tested with the live CD. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: xorg 1:7.6+4ubuntu3 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic i686 Architecture: i386 CompizPlugins: No value set for `/apps/compiz-1/general/screen0/options/active_plugins' CompositorRunning: None DRM.card0.VGA.1: status: connected enabled: enabled dpms: On modes: 1680x1050 1280x1024 1280x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 1024x768 1024x768 832x624 800x600 800x600 800x600 800x600 640x480 640x480 640x480 640x480 720x400 edid-base64: AP///wBMLQwDMjJFTQgSAQMOLx54KtUVpFVJmicUUFS/74CzAIGAgUBxTwEBAQEBAQEBfC6QoGAaHkAwIDYA2igRAAAa/QA4Sx5RDgAKICAgICAg/ABTeW5jTWFzdGVyCiAg/wBIUzNRMjEyOTE1CiAgAEY= Date: Sun May 1 18:54:42 2011 DistUpgraded: Log time: 2011-05-01 15:06:44.795705 DistroCodename: natty DistroVariant: ubuntu DkmsStatus: virtualbox-ose, 4.0.4, 2.6.38-8-generic, i686: installed virtualbox-ose, 4.0.4, 2.6.35-28-generic, i686: installed GraphicsCard: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2572] (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company D530 sff(dc578av) [103c:12bc] Lsusb: Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub MachineType: Hewlett-Packard HP d530 SFF(DG059T) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=fr_FR:en PATH=(custom, user) LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=5f7f6055-15cd-4412-bf5e-a49fcf303fe7 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7 Renderer: Unknown SourcePackage: xorg UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-05-01 (0 days ago) dmi.bios.date: 07/10/2003 dmi.bios.vendor: Hewlett-Packard dmi.bios.version: 786B2 v1.11 dmi.board.name: 085Ch dmi.board.vendor: Hewlett-Packard dmi.chassis.asset.tag: CZC4161ZSK dmi.chassis.type: 4 dmi.chassis.vendor: Hewlett-Packard dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnHewlett-Packard:bvr786B2v1.11:bd07/10/2003:svnHewlett-Packard:pnHPd530SFF(DG059T):pvr:rvnHewlett-Packard:rn085Ch:rvr:cvnHewlett-Packard:ct4:cvr: dmi.product.name: HP d530 SFF(DG059T) dmi.sys.vendor: Hewlett-Packard version.compiz: compiz 1:0.9.4+bzr20110415-0ubuntu2 version.libdrm2: libdrm2 2.4.23-1ubuntu6 version.libgl1-mesa-dri: libgl1-mesa-dri 7.10.2-0ubuntu2 version.libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental: libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental N/A version.libgl1-mesa-glx: libgl1-mesa-glx 7.10.2-0ubuntu2 version.xserver-xorg: xserver-xorg 1:7.6+4ubuntu3 version.xserver-xorg-video-ati: xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.14.0-0ubuntu4 version.xserver-xorg-video-intel: xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.14.0-4ubuntu7 version.xserver-xorg-video-nouveau: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:0.0.16+git20110107+b795ca6e-0ubuntu7 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-intel in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/774999 Title: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to :
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 774999] Re: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware
** Description changed: [Problem] Support for 8xx chipsets is dodgy at best, due to insufficient upstream testing/development/priorities. Users frequently experience regressions and problems, which they find annoying. For distro maintenance, we typically prioritize development work around 915 and higher, and recommend owners of older hardware work directly with upstream filing bugs at bugzilla.freedesktop.org rather than launchpad. - This report requests a warning be presented to users on 8xx intel chips - that they're going to be pretty much on their own if they run into - problems, and so should do ample testing on their own using livecds and + This bug report requests a warning be presented to users on 8xx intel + chips that they may be on their own if they run into problems unique to + 8xx, and so should do ample testing on their own using livecds and whatnot before risking an upgrade. - 10.04 LTS was the last release us distro maintainers really paid - attention to 8xx problems, and so 8xx owners must be cautious upgrading - beyond that. + 10.04 LTS was the last release where we gave priority to 8xx issues and + did development/fixup work on it, and so 8xx owners must be cautious + upgrading beyond that. Upstream still does some limited maintenance + work for 8xx, so Ubuntu may well work fine (so blacklisting 8xx is not + suitable) but if it doesn't, we are not open to backporting upstream + fixes or introducing tweaks to fix 8xx issues. Our experience has been + that when we do this, we risk fixing it for one system but breaking + several others... [Original Report] Posted from the X11 recovery session. None of the sessions works (except the recovery session, but that doesn't count) after upgrade from Maverick to Natty: - Ubuntu : a dialog box says the hadware is does not accept Unity, then screen is garbled (reboot from linux console) - Ubuntu Classic : screen is garbled (reboot from linux console) - Ubuntu Classic (no effects) : system freeze Why the upgrade did not warn me about the lack of support for this hardware? I would not have upgraded. Or tested with the live CD. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: xorg 1:7.6+4ubuntu3 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic i686 Architecture: i386 CompizPlugins: No value set for `/apps/compiz-1/general/screen0/options/active_plugins' CompositorRunning: None DRM.card0.VGA.1: status: connected enabled: enabled dpms: On modes: 1680x1050 1280x1024 1280x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 1024x768 1024x768 832x624 800x600 800x600 800x600 800x600 640x480 640x480 640x480 640x480 720x400 edid-base64: AP///wBMLQwDMjJFTQgSAQMOLx54KtUVpFVJmicUUFS/74CzAIGAgUBxTwEBAQEBAQEBfC6QoGAaHkAwIDYA2igRAAAa/QA4Sx5RDgAKICAgICAg/ABTeW5jTWFzdGVyCiAg/wBIUzNRMjEyOTE1CiAgAEY= Date: Sun May 1 18:54:42 2011 DistUpgraded: Log time: 2011-05-01 15:06:44.795705 DistroCodename: natty DistroVariant: ubuntu DkmsStatus: virtualbox-ose, 4.0.4, 2.6.38-8-generic, i686: installed virtualbox-ose, 4.0.4, 2.6.35-28-generic, i686: installed GraphicsCard: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2572] (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company D530 sff(dc578av) [103c:12bc] Lsusb: Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub MachineType: Hewlett-Packard HP d530 SFF(DG059T) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=fr_FR:en PATH=(custom, user) LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=5f7f6055-15cd-4412-bf5e-a49fcf303fe7 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7 Renderer: Unknown SourcePackage: xorg UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-05-01 (0 days ago) dmi.bios.date: 07/10/2003 dmi.bios.vendor: Hewlett-Packard dmi.bios.version: 786B2 v1.11 dmi.board.name: 085Ch dmi.board.vendor: Hewlett-Packard dmi.chassis.asset.tag: CZC4161ZSK dmi.chassis.type: 4 dmi.chassis.vendor: Hewlett-Packard dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnHewlett-Packard:bvr786B2v1.11:bd07/10/2003:svnHewlett-Packard:pnHPd530SFF(DG059T):pvr:rvnHewlett-Packard:rn085Ch:rvr:cvnHewlett-Packard:ct4:cvr: dmi.product.name: HP d530 SFF(DG059T) dmi.sys.vendor: Hewlett-Packard version.compiz: compiz 1:0.9.4+bzr20110415-0ubuntu2 version.libdrm2: libdrm2 2.4.23-1ubuntu6 version.libgl1-mesa-dri: libgl1-mesa-dri 7.10.2-0ubuntu2 version.libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental: libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental N/A version.libgl1-mesa-glx: libgl1-mesa-glx 7.10.2-0ubuntu2 version.xserver-xorg: xserver-xorg 1:7.6+4ubuntu3 version.xserver-xorg-video-ati: xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.14.0-0ubuntu4 version.xserver-xorg-video-intel:
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 774999] Re: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware
Anyway, I don't know whether the update-manager folks might consider 8xx checks to just be cluttering things up; I'll leave it to them to decide. ** Also affects: update-manager (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist ** Changed in: update-manager (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = High ** Changed in: update-manager (Ubuntu) Milestone: None = oneiric-alpha-1 ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xserver-xorg-video-intel in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/774999 Title: [i865G] Upgrade should warn user about lack of support for old 8xx intel hardware ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
