[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 823588] Re: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable
I was able to reproduce what I think is this same bug on my test box - see bug #825605. It's just an ordinary desktop with an ati card; no switchable graphics. I didn't try Unity 2D, but the FOSS -ati driver works fine on it. Notably none of the unity toolbar stuff shows up, which makes me also think it's something conflicting with nux/unity. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/823588 Title: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/823588/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 823588] Re: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable
One thing I found was that if I typed into the xterm or moved the mouse, the blackness would display only down to where the cursor was. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx- installer/+bug/825605/+attachment/2273487/+files/100_2276.JPG https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx- installer/+bug/825605/+attachment/2273488/+files/100_2278.JPG -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/823588 Title: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/823588/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 823588] Re: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable
The PCI ID for the card in this report is 1002:9803; that PCI ID isn't listed anywhere so I'm guessing it's a very new card. The card I was testing was a RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670] [1002:9490], which is also relatively recent. ** Summary changed: - ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable + Unity displaying with black overlay with fglrx driver -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/823588 Title: Unity displaying with black overlay with fglrx driver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/823588/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 823588] Re: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable
** Also affects: fglrx-installer (Ubuntu Oneiric) Importance: High Assignee: Alberto Milone (albertomilone) Status: Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/823588 Title: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/823588/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 823588] Re: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable
** Changed in: fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) Importance: Medium = High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/823588 Title: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/823588/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 823588] Re: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable
Wow. That's a very funky video. Setting priority to high; that's clearly unusable. There doesn't seem to be a spree of similar issues in Launchpad, though, so I think we should discover the extent of the problem before turning off the driver in jockey, which would inhibit our ability to work out where it's broken. The logs don't seem to show any unusual activity; I'll see if Alberto has anything to say about this. ** Changed in: fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) Assignee: Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team) = Alberto Milone (albertomilone) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/823588 Title: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/823588/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 823588] Re: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable
I think I've already seen that problem on a system with switchable graphics when using the discrete card. I also remember that if I switched to Unity 2D from the login manager I was not able to reproduce the issue. This is probably a problem in fglrx triggered by nux on some graphics chipsets. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/823588 Title: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/823588/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 823588] Re: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable
** Changed in: fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/823588 Title: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/823588/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 823588] Re: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable
Setting to medium and assigning to the desktop team ** Changed in: fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium ** Changed in: fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/823588 Title: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/823588/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 823588] Re: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable
Hi Jeff, sorry to hear you had such troubles. Unfortunately this bug report as written is non-actionable. Here's a few tips for improving your bug report: 1. Attach log files. Without log files developers cannot diagnose the problem. Generally, running 'apport-collect 823588' should attach the required files. 2. When writing a bug report description, try to think of it more like a high school lab or a police report - state the facts clearly and describe the situation completely. Don't describe things as random or unusable or broken - those terms are so broad they actually tell us very little, instead try to characterize the behavior as if you were studying the problem scientifically. 3. Avoid assuming that a bug you see on your system is seen by everyone on all systems; while some X bugs are widespread, the majority tend to be somewhat hardware-specific or even specific to some configuration that you've done. Indeed, there are relatively few bug reports about -fglrx open right now. Instead, try to think about what might make *your* system different than other people's - it can give strong clues as to what went wrong. 4. You've mentioned Alpha 3 specifically, which makes me wonder if you had successfully used fglrx on oneiric previously. If you have, and know a bug is a regression from an earlier point in time, it is very valuable to mention this; often in those situations we can look at what got upgraded when as a clue to finding the bug. Hope this all helps, and good luck improving your bug report. ** Package changed: xorg (Ubuntu) = fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/823588 Title: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/823588/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 823588] Re: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable
On 08/10/2011 01:59 AM, Bryce Harrington wrote: 1. Attach log files. Without log files developers cannot diagnose the problem. Generally, running 'apport-collect 823588' should attach the required files. Done. Sorry for neglecting to do that yesterday. I'm in the lab and have a whole list of systems in test, and in the last two days alone I've filed 30 bugs or so :( things slip through the cracks... but I've remedied that now. 2. When writing a bug report description, try to think of it more like a high school lab or a police report - state the facts clearly and describe the situation completely. Don't describe things as random or unusable or broken - those terms are so broad they actually tell us very little, instead try to characterize the behavior as if you were studying the problem scientifically. Unfortunately, I do not have anything more descriptive for you. Thus, I attached a video showing EXACTLY what was happening. I was assuming that if a picture is worth a thousand words, a video should be War and Peace Unabridged... It's just that simple. Install driver. Boot. System is unusable because it's a black screen, then not a black screen, then a black screen, then not a black screen... :) 3. Avoid assuming that a bug you see on your system is seen by everyone on all systems; while some X bugs are widespread, the majority tend to be somewhat hardware-specific or even specific to some configuration that you've done. Indeed, there are relatively few bug reports about -fglrx open right now. Instead, try to think about what might make *your* system different than other people's - it can give strong clues as to what went wrong. I assume nothing, which is why I stated specifically in the bug that I was operating on an Inspiron 1122 with an ATI video card. That's pretty narrow, I think. But hopefully, the logs attached from #1 above will help further narrow it down. 4. You've mentioned Alpha 3 specifically, which makes me wonder if you had successfully used fglrx on oneiric previously. If you have, and know a bug is a regression from an earlier point in time, it is very valuable to mention this; often in those situations we can look at what got upgraded when as a clue to finding the bug. Negative... I flew up to Lexington specifically to do a help do a certification test run on the systems stored there in the Cert Lab. I've not touched this system since I came up here to do the 11.04 cert run back in April. In fact, as far as I can tell by the system entry on the cert site, that was the last time anyone tested on this machine. Hope this all helps, and good luck improving your bug report. It does, and I do apologize for the lack of logs and such, as I said, I have a whole list of systems to get through and the first two systems lone generated 30 bugs and took two full days of my time to get through. -- Jeff Lane - Hardware Certification Engineer and Test Tools Developer Ubuntu Ham: W4KDH Freenode IRC: bladernr or bladernr_ gpg: 1024D/3A14B2DD 8C88 B076 0DD7 B404 1417 C466 4ABD 3635 3A14 B2DD ** Changed in: fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/823588 Title: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/823588/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 823588] Re: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable
apport information ** Tags added: apport-collected reproducible running-unity single- occurrence ubuntu ** Description changed: Testing Oneiric Alpha 3 on an Insprion 1122 with an ATI video card. I had issues with screen corruption when connecting an external display using the OSS driver, so I opened Jockey and tried using the Proprietary driver instead. This was even worse, however, because I was almost unable to use the system while the proprietary driver was loaded. I had to drop to a shell and use jockey-text to remove it before I could use the system again. - So, the proprietary driver that Jockey is suggesting for ATI cards in - Oneiric Alpha 3 breask the system. The driver needs to be fixed, or - blacklisted from Jockey so that users don't end up with an unusable - Oneiric system. + So, the proprietary driver that Jockey is suggesting for ATI cards in Oneiric Alpha 3 breask the system. The driver needs to be fixed, or blacklisted from Jockey so that users don't end up with an unusable Oneiric system. + --- + Architecture: i386 + CompizPlugins: [core,bailer,detection,composite,opengl,decor,mousepoll,vpswitch,regex,animation,snap,expo,move,compiztoolbox,place,grid,imgpng,gnomecompat,wall,ezoom,workarounds,staticswitcher,resize,fade,unitymtgrabhandles,scale,session,unityshell] + DistUpgraded: Fresh install + DistroCodename: oneiric + DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10 + DistroVariant: ubuntu + DkmsStatus: fglrx, 8.861, 3.0.0-8-generic, i686: installed + GraphicsCard: + ATI Technologies Inc Device [1002:9803] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) +Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:04df] + InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot - Alpha i386 (20110803.1) + JockeyStatus: xorg:fglrx - ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (Proprietary, Enabled, In use) + LightdmGreeterLog: + + MachineType: Dell Inc. Inspiron 1122 + NonfreeKernelModules: fglrx + Package: fglrx-installer (not installed) + ProcEnviron: + LANG=en_US.UTF-8 + SHELL=/bin/bash + ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-8-generic root=UUID=0fc2125d-a95d-4528-9164-206c91790f5c ro quiet splash initcall_debug vt.handoff=7 + ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-8.10-generic 3.0.1 + Tags: oneiric running-unity ubuntu single-occurrence reproducible + Uname: Linux 3.0.0-8-generic i686 + UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) + UserGroups: adm admin cdrom dialout lpadmin plugdev sambashare + dmi.bios.date: 12/02/2010 + dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. + dmi.bios.version: X09 + dmi.board.name: 0XDYKV + dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. + dmi.chassis.type: 8 + dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. + dmi.chassis.version: X09 + dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrX09:bd12/02/2010:svnDellInc.:pnInspiron1122:pvrX09:rvnDellInc.:rn0XDYKV:rvr:cvnDellInc.:ct8:cvrX09: + dmi.product.name: Inspiron 1122 + dmi.product.version: X09 + dmi.sys.vendor: Dell Inc. + version.compiz: compiz 1:0.9.5.0-0ubuntu2 + version.fglrx-installer: fglrx-installer N/A + version.libdrm2: libdrm2 2.4.26-1ubuntu1 + version.libgl1-mesa-dri: libgl1-mesa-dri 7.11-0ubuntu2 + version.libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental: libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental N/A + version.libgl1-mesa-glx: libgl1-mesa-glx 7.11-0ubuntu2 + version.xserver-xorg: xserver-xorg 1:7.6+7ubuntu6 + version.xserver-xorg-input-evdev: xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.6.0-1ubuntu13 + version.xserver-xorg-video-ati: xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.14.2-1ubuntu2 + version.xserver-xorg-video-intel: xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.15.901-1ubuntu2 + version.xserver-xorg-video-nouveau: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:0.0.16+git20110411+8378443-1 ** Attachment added: BootDmesg.txt https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/823588/+attachment/2266597/+files/BootDmesg.txt -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/823588 Title: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/823588/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 823588] Re: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable
Here is a brief video showing what the proprietary driver Jockey installs does to the system. ** Attachment added: 100_0014.MOV https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/823588/+attachment/2264858/+files/100_0014.MOV -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/823588 Title: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/823588/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 823588] Re: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable
** Tags added: blocks-hwcert oneiric -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/823588 Title: ATI driver suggested by Jockey makes system unusable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/823588/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
