Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
hi Allessandro, according to this output, it should work. It would be strange, if it would not work. Because for me, it works and I also have nearly the same output as you do. It is really strange, if this is not working. Greetings your friend Linuxexperte Am 09.11.2011, 22:54 Uhr, schrieb Alessandro Ceschini 771...@bugs.launchpad.net: Hi Andrea OK, I'll try this BUT I don't think it'll work. Remember this: Unity support test: Not software rendered: yes Not blacklisted: yes GLX fbconfig: yes GLX texture from pixmap: yes GL npot or rect textures: yes GL vertex program: yes GL fragment program: yes GL vertex buffer object: yes GL framebuffer object: yes GL version is 1.4+: yes Unity 3D supported: yes So WTF is wrong here, and why should I buy a new card when the system says it's not blacklisted? Buying a new card is acceptable only when the card is blacklisted, otherwise it's not my fault. It's up to Ubuntu developers to solve my problem. -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
And what if you used Gnome-Shell instead of Unity?? For me, Unity uses this proprietary driver. I have no problem with that. I hope, that you will get your problem solved. Greetings Linuxexperte Am 10.11.2011, 12:25 Uhr, schrieb Alessandro Ceschini 771...@bugs.launchpad.net: Hi Andrea That's it, that's why I requested you reopen this bug, control center says this driver is installed and used, but Unity somehow refuses to see it, the problem is Unity, not my card. Regards -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
Hi Alessandro, Gnome-Shell is an alternative Desktop-environment to Unity. You can find that out here: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Gnome_Shell?highlight=Gnome-Shell This Desktop-Environment works so pleasing for me and with 3D-Support. And here in the latest Firefox-Version, I can also use Torbutton again!! Perhaps if you install Gnome-Shell and use this instead of Unity??? The current version of Gnome-Shell in Ubuntu 11.10 is 3.2.1 And there, the extensions come back to life if you also install this ppa-repository here: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/gnome3 And then you need to reboot your machine and select GNOME als your Desktop and then you are in Gnome-Shell and there, 3D should work for you too. Becuase the output in your last posting said, that 3D-effects work for you. So it should work. Greetings Linuxexperte Am 10.11.2011, 14:24 Uhr, schrieb Alessandro Ceschini 771...@bugs.launchpad.net: Hi Andrea What's Gnome-shell? The standard shell till 10.11? It doesn't give me the 3d back, I already tried this. The funny thing is that 3d worked till back 10.11 times, and also before. Since 11.04 everything is gone. Now, what should I do, open another bug? -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
Hi my friend, noo...I don't belong to the bug-team. :) But I already gained some experience in this matter through going to such things myself and help myself with these hints. For me, these hints did it through several distros now. And before I do a bugreport, I try to help myself. I don't want to bother the bugteam. And thorugh helping yourself, you also learn something in Linux. But to be honest: there is already a long forum at nvidias homepage about things like that. You could use Google to find out the forum at nvidia. The bugteam here can't do anything, before nvidia hasn't done something on that. They also have to relie on nvidia before being able to do something. Greetings Linuxexperte Am 10.11.2011, 15:28 Uhr, schrieb Alessandro Ceschini 771...@bugs.launchpad.net: Hi Andrea You don't belong to the bug team, do you? Before resorting to alternative remedies I want the guys up there to tell me frankly they WON'T FIX my issue. I want them to put it squarely they don't give a damn about my problem. Thanks -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
hi Alessandro, I don't konw, what's wrong with your machine. I have tried Unity yesterday and I get 3D there too. But there is also a Unity-Desktop available that doesn't need 3D. So I think, that it is something different. Unity is not to be blamed in my opinion. Because here, Unity works with 3D. That seems to be something different And in LinuxMint, there will be a fork of Gnome2 called MATE. They are already implementing it and I hope, that it will be available for you with the outcome of LinuxMint 12. And here the driver is in Use too and runs fine. Also in Untiy. And so I would recommend: open a new bugreport. Greetings Linuxexperte Greetings Linuxexperte Am 10.11.2011, 19:33 Uhr, schrieb Alessandro Ceschini 771...@bugs.launchpad.net: Hi Andrea Wait. What you say would be true if the problem stemmed from the Nvidia drivers, but this seems not to be the case, the reality is that Unity is to be blamed, for the driver works well. I surfed many forums but they don't give me more pieces of information than I already have: usually everything revolves around installing drivers, forcing Unity start bla bla bla... I've already tried all that stuff and certainly I cannot say I didn't do something about that. Actually I've been trying everything. To no avail. So why doesn't the bug team tell me they won't just solve that UNITY bug, it's Unity the problem, not the nvidia-driver, otherwise the control panel wouldn't tell me that the driver is IN USE. When the nvidia-driver was buggy it used to tell me it was NOT IN USE. But now the situation has changed: it's IN USE. Would someone please take notice, that I've got a problem with UNITY NOT WITH NVIDIA-DRIVERS? -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
Hi Alessandro, jetzt sehe ich, woran dein Problem krankt. Du hast von wegen eine Noname-Grafikkarte. Du hast ebenfalls eine Nvidia-Graka siehe diese Zeile aus deiner Ausgabe: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a1) Das bedeutet: dein Rechner ist eine ATI-Technologie mit Nvidia-Grafikkarte, in deinem Fall die GeForce 8400 GS. Das bedeutet für dich: auch du brauchst den nvidia-current-Treiber. Den installierst du in Gnome 3 über das neue Control-Center, oder wenn dass nicht funktioniert, dann such bitte mal in der Synaptic nach diesem Paket: nvidia-current Dazu wird dann automatisch noch das Paket nvidia-settings installiert. Bei mir lief es gestern (ich hab mir auf meinem Läppi gestern doch wieder die aktuelle Version von Ubuntu installiert) ohne Probleme über die Synaptic. Danach musst du deinen Rechner bitte neu starten (bitte sei etwas geduldig, da es bischen dauern kann, bis dein Rechner wieder auf dem Desktop ist (der Treiber wird bei Installation über die Synaptic automatisch aktiviert). Das kannst du dann über Nvidia-Settings sehen, dass du über das Menü starten kannst. Außerdem kannst du in den ganzen von mir geposteten Links überprüfen, ob bei dir dann 3D unterstütz wird. Dieser bisherige quelloffene nouveau-Treiber bringt keine ausreichende 3D-Unterstützung mit. Außerdem grillt der dir deine Graka durch!! Da ist es dann kein Wunder, wenn du 3D nicht nutzen kannst. Du scheinst bisher den quelloffenen Treiber nouveau zu benutzen. Also: raus mit dem nouveau-Treiber und rein mit nvidia-current!! Grüße Linuxhelfer Am 08.11.2011, 17:01 Uhr, schrieb Alessandro Ceschini 771...@bugs.launchpad.net: Hi Andrea No problem. Here you are. alessandro@bureau:~$ lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0566:3004 Monterey International Corp. Genius KB-29E alessandro@bureau:~$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RX780/RX790 Chipset Host Bridge 00:02.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RD790 PCI to PCI bridge (external gfx0 port A) 00:06.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RD790 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI express gpp port C) 00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [IDE mode] 00:12.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller 00:12.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller 00:12.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 3a) 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 IDE Controller 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge 00:14.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI2 Controller 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor HyperTransport Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Miscellaneous Control 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Link Control 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a1) 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01) Regards -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
hi Alessandro, you can install it via your own system and then it will be in the language of your system. This is controlled through the control-center of your own system. You don't need to download it from the internet!!! Just use your control-center in Ubuntu or in your derivate, if you use another Ubuntu-derivate. So you have it easy, to install this driver. Or if it doesn't work via your control-center, then just open your synaptic, search for these packages: nvidia-current nvidia-settings Install them, close synaptic and restart your machine, that's just it. Greetings Linuxexperte Am 09.11.2011, 12:15 Uhr, schrieb Alessandro Ceschini 771...@bugs.launchpad.net: Hi Andrea Ahem... is it German? I don't understand German! :) Regards -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
OK Alesandro. But: if you used your contro-center, then it has installed the english-version of this driver and everything should be fine afterwards. Did you reboot your machine after installing this proprietary driver?? Greetings your friend Linuxexperte Am 09.11.2011, 14:40 Uhr, schrieb Alessandro Ceschini 771...@bugs.launchpad.net: Wait, who told you I'd downloaded it from the Internet? I never did that, I used control-center! -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
that's strange then. Because for me after installing LinuxMint or either Ubuntu (right now) on my Notebook, it went well in the first try. For me it works really fine. Then you should really think about changing your graphiccard. Mine is this one: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C79 [GeForce 9200M G] (rev b1) And this one works fine for me. Then the next hint for you would be to install this ppa-repository here: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Grafikkarten/Nvidia/nvidia?highlight=ubuntu-x-swat Perhaps this could solve your problem. It could be possible, that your card is too new to be properly supported by the older versions of the nvidia-driver. This ppa-repository brings a newer one, which should work fine for you. Or if you have already installed it, then purge this ppa-repository and run these commands in your terminal sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Let these commands run through completely. Then afterwards, try to install the proprietary nvidia- driver. Tell me, if these hints help you with your problem. Greetings Linuxexperte Perhaps if you change your graphiccard?? Am 09.11.2011, 15:22 Uhr, schrieb Alessandro Ceschini 771...@bugs.launchpad.net: Hi Andrea Nothing is fine, a month ago, after updating to 11.10, I tried all four versions (and rebooted afterwards): 1. 173 2. 173-updates 3. currents 4. current-updates None of them works, actually I'm running 4. current-updates because that was the last thing I tried. -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
Hi Allessandro, three years is not an age for a graphiccard!! more than 10 years would be something, where I would say this is old. But not in your case as well as mine. My Laptop is also only nearly two years old. And for a Notebook, this is also not a real age!!! I experienced the same problem with my Graphiccard, I posted in LinuxMint 9. So I had to install this ppa-repository and that helped me out of a mess with my nvidia-card. For me, the display-resolution was way to big in that former release of LinuxMint. But since this new driver has been publised, I do not have these problems anymore. And on this link they also write that it can be possible, that LinuxMint, Ubuntu and its derivates do not support such so new cards properly and that's why this ppa-repository is really recommended. The change of your graphiccard would only be for the very worst case, if this ppa-repository won't help you out of your problem. I don't think, that reopening this bug would help a lot. First try that hint with this ppa-repository. But if that should not help, then you should really think about changing that one. Greetings Linuxexperte Am 09.11.2011, 19:14 Uhr, schrieb Alessandro Ceschini 771...@bugs.launchpad.net: Hi Andrea The ppa-repository because my card too new? But it's three to four years old! And changing the card because Ubuntu has a bug? WTF??! What about re-opening this bug? -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
Hi Alessandro, if you have Ubuntu or LinuxMint installed, you can check this via your Terminal. So open your Terminal and type in this: lsusb (this lists all usb-devices on your computer; also internals) lspci (this lists all the pci-devices in your machine) Then copypaste these outputs here into this topic and then we can see, what is wrong with your machine. Could you please do so?? Thi would be pretty helpful. Thanks in advance, Linuxhelfer Am Montag, den 07.11.2011, 13:42 + schrieb Alessandro Ceschini: It's not a branded but an assembled computer. System Information says: Memory: 3,9 Gb Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250 Processor × 2 Graphic card: UNKNOWN (that's the problem), it should be GeForce 8400 OS Type: 64-bit Disk: 482,4 Gb So, the Additional Drivers DOES recognize the graphic card, but System Information does NOT. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
Hi Allessandro, I have read all your information you provided for me. Your problem really seems strange to me. Can you tell me, which graphiccard you have and which machine you are working with (company-name of the producer and model of your machine). Perhaps I can try to find further hints in the Internet. For me, this driver works fine and I have 3D-effects on and working. But nautilus in Gnome3 does still not work for me a user, only as root and I do not understand why that is. I went from Gnome2 to Gnome3 in LinuxMint 11 (based on natty) through installing the recommended ppa-repositories. The most apps work so far. But I can only access my personal files as root and not as normal user. If I click on the nautilus-icon in this dock provided in Gnome3, then nautilus crashes for me as normal user. Even nautilus-actions crash and do not work. Then as the next strange thing, I discovered that all extensions of Gnome3 do not work in natty. But I found out through the net, that this should work in oneiric. So I am hard- ly waiting for the RC of LinuxMint 12 to come to the light of the world. It is scheduled for November this year. Let's see, if this will be fixed until then. And I would be happy, if these extensions and nautilus would come back to work as normal user. Because I preferr to work as normal user and not as root. OK Allessandro, that's it for so far. Please provide me the information I asekd you for and I am happy to read from you soon. Greetings Linuxexperte Am 07.11.2011, 00:12 Uhr, schrieb Alessandro Ceschini 771...@bugs.launchpad.net: Hi I followed all the instructions you provided me with, even before you came out with that link (I already knew about it), and there's still no way to get 3d effects working on my system. It seems I'm the only one here still experiencing problems. Damn. Greetings. -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
hi Allessandro, yep, I have 3D-effect running on my machine. But what is not working properly for me is the Gnome3-desktop. Nautilus crashes when klicking the icon in the dock. But what is strange to me is, that I can open nautlus through Atl+F2 and gksu nautilus. That means, I can only open Nautilus as root. But what I want to know: why is that?? And hwat also is strange to me: when I want to logg into the normal Gnome2-desktop, I get the error-message: failed to load Gnome- Classic session. I also don't know, why that is. I am still looking for figuring that out. But for comeing back to the proprietary driver: yep, for me this driver works fine and also film-videos have cool 3D-effects now. you will find out if this works, if you follow the instructions shown in the links, I posted in my previous comments and also I do not experience any emergency-shutdown anymore, since I use nvidia-current. Also the overheating-problems are gone since I use this driver since a few weeks now. I am really happy with this new nvidia-driver. And as I said: the proprietary ones are the resue for the nvidia-graphic-cards because the opensource one (nouveau-driver) would have killed my GPU and my graphiccard. If I had continued useing the opensource-one, my GPU would have died within two or three weeks. Greetings Linuxexperte Also gaming is no problem anymore. Am 06.11.2011, 20:11 Uhr, schrieb Alessandro Ceschini 771...@bugs.launchpad.net: Hi I installed the driver via the control-center. It was apparently automatically installed after a fresh install (version 173). Since it unity still didn't work I decided to install the last one (version-current-updates). Both are proprietaries. Never used any open-source driver, always proprietary ones. Temperature is 50°~60°, but the real issue is NO 3D SINCE ALMOST A YEAR!!! Do you get 3d effects? -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
Hi Allessandro, how did you install the proprietary Nvidia-driver?? Via jockey-gtk or via the control-center?? or did you manually download and install it?? Or do you still use the opensource nouveau-driver?? This nouveau-driver should better not be used!! This will kill your GPU, because the GPU-temperature comes by far too hight with that opensource nouveau-driver. That's why I recommend the proprietary one. For me, it is like that, that jockey still reports a wrong output in natty. But the driver itself works according to the checks, which are recom- mended in the links, I had posted before. The results I got on my machine correspond to the once shown on these links and temperature of the GPU has come down since some weeks, since I installed this proprietary driver through the control-center. Greetings Linuxexperte Am 04.11.2011, 17:55 Uhr, schrieb Alessandro Ceschini 771...@bugs.launchpad.net: I don't know if this has something to do with the bug but xdiagnose reports: Failed to load module nv (module does not exist, 0) -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
hi Allessandro, I have somewhat lower temperatures than you in the meantime. With my Notebook, temperatures are down to 45 degrees (for GPU) and 47 degrees for my CPU. And also your output shows, that the driver actually works good for you. The termperatures, you write about are really normal with thep proprietary driver and this is by far less thant the temperatures with the nouveau driver. Because with the opensource nouveau-driver, temperatures would be at about nearly 80 degrees until up to a 86 as peek. And this will damage each GPU and for the graphiccard, this would mean the ultimative death. You write, that the graphiccard should be rather hotter. No, this is not good for your graphic, if it would turn hotter than 70 degrees. I had the peak at an 86 degrees with the nouveau driver and it nearly made my graphiccard melt down!!! This would kill your graphic. This means: the lower the GPU-temperature is, the better it is for your graphic. Greetings Linuxexperte Am 23.10.2011, 12:29 Uhr, schrieb Alessandro Ceschini 771...@bugs.launchpad.net: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a1) *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:01:00.0 version: a1 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0 resources: irq:18 memory:fa00-faff memory:d000-dfff memory:f800-f9ff ioport:dc00(size=128) memory:fbee-fbef CPU Temperature according to NVIDIA utilities: minimum ~50° maximum ~64°. Please notice this is (8400 GS) a FANLESS model, so it should be rather hotter than fan cooled models. -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
hi Allessandro, the output you sent, shows that the driver actually works, but the kockey-gtk output still is wrong. What does the temperature of your GPU say and the CPU-temperature?? And did you check the other reasonable tests shown on the link I posted?? So this actually is a jockey-gtk-problem, because the driver actually works for you but jokey still gives a wrong output. Greetings Linuxexperte Am 21.10.2011, 14:48 Uhr, schrieb Alessandro Ceschini 771...@bugs.launchpad.net: Of course I did, actually I tried all of the four versions Hardware Drivers proposed. I've been experiencing this bug since six months at least, since when I updated to 11.04. Now I'm running 11.10 but nothing has changed. Unity support test: Not software rendered:yes Not blacklisted: yes GLX fbconfig: yes GLX texture from pixmap: yes GL npot or rect textures: yes GL vertex program:yes GL fragment program: yes GL vertex buffer object: yes GL framebuffer object:yes GL version is 1.4+: yes Unity 3D supported: yes -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
hi dear, I already contacted him to stop this mass-sending of this notice. I have already marked these as spam, because this already floods up my emailaccount. I do also not like this, because I receive this message already 40 times within 30 minutes!! This is unnecessary!!! Greetings Linuxexperte Am 17.09.2011, 15:34 Uhr, schrieb michael 771...@bugs.launchpad.net: If someone could let me know when AdrianChallinor gets is work email sorted and stops resending his standard out of office response, as I'm unsubscribing until then. -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Emilio 771...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: There is a mix of issues here. since the duplicated bugs point here, and they clearly show people without Unity nor OpenGL support at all. I found some comments about the same problem here, and I find a quick fix, so I wanted to help those who needed it. The confusion shows why it is important that tools like jockey give reliable information. -- George N. White III aa...@chebucto.ns.ca Head of St. Margarets Bay, Nova Scotia -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jockey/+bug/771788/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 771788] Re: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk
Phillipe, This is disingenuous. Do you really think that users care whether it is the driver, Jockey, Unity, or anything else that is the fault? The simple fact is that it is not working. I have a GeForce GTX 285, not a cheap card. It works under 10.10. Under 11.04 I get no 3d graphics, no compiz. Its a VGA card for all practical purposes. There is (or was) a bug report to that effect. Marking that bug as invalid with so many people tracking it serves no practical purpose, but does infuriate people. As a developer of over 35 years experience, it sure infuriated me, so I guess I won't be alone. This is a very serious issue: Canonical have release an upgrade that cripples a lot of peoples PCs. It should have been found in testing and I believe is serious enough to have stopped the release. It concerns the major supplier of graphics cards, ergo a lot of people will have this bug. In my mind, if this happened in my company, we would pull the release and stoped further people getting in to problems until it was fixed. Otherwise there is a very real danger of alienating users. My regret is that due to personal circumstances I was not able to do a full test on Beta1 or Beta2. Had I been able to do this I would have found this earlier. I still think that marking the bug as invalid was the wrong message to send out. YMMV Adrian Challinor mobile: 07860 290 883 On 25/05/11 22:25, Philippe Gauthier wrote: I have marked the task about the nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 package as invalid because this bug is caused by a problem in Jockey. In the present report, the graphic drivers are enabled and probably work, but the Additional Drivers window still says that the drivers are not being used. If you -- or someone else -- have any other problem with the proprietary Nvidia drivers, please report it as a different bug. I'm sorry that I did not add this comment before because I wanted to limit the number of comments that did not directly serve to fix the current issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/771788 Title: nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
