Re: [uClinux-dev] PATCH cxxtest and shared stlport

2007-02-22 Thread Greg Ungerer

Hi Matt,

Matthew Natalier wrote:

Dave,

I finally got around to building and testing a shared stlport and cxx test.

If you could apply these to the uClinux-dist cvs I would appreciate it.


Will this break non-MMU builds?
(Come to think of it, has this ever worked on non-MMU systems?)

Regards
Greg




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Re: [uClinux-dev] [ANNOUNCE] uClinux-dist-20070130 release

2007-02-22 Thread Greg Ungerer

Hi John,

John Williams wrote:
Is there a (good :) ) reason why uClinux-dist/Makefile clean: target now 
deletes the $(LINUX)/include/asm symlink?


This means that after a make clean you have to make oldconfig to get the 
symlink back.  Perhaps this should be in distclean rather than clean?


It sure is annoying, I have seen the same thing.

Lets ask Davidm, since he made the change :-)
From the CVS commit of that change:

  2.6 doesn't remove the include/asm link on clean and switching targets
  breaks (ie., arm to sh)

Regards
Greg




Greg Ungerer wrote:


Hi All,

I have generated a uClinux-dist-20070130 release. You can get it
from the usual place:

http://www.uclinux.org/pub/uClinux/dist/uClinux-dist-20070130.tar.gz
http://www.uclinux.org/pub/uClinux/dist/uClinux-dist-20070130.tar.bz2

The uClinux-dist CVS, at cvs.uclinux.org, has been updated as well.

It contains:

. linux-2.6.19-uc0
. linux-2.4.32-uc0
. linux-2.0.39-uc2
. uClibc-0.9.27
. _lots_ of other application packages (as usual :-)
. _many_ new targets as well

Regards
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Re: [uClinux-dev] [ANNOUNCE] uClinux-dist-20070130 release

2007-02-22 Thread John Williams

Hi Gerg,

Is there a (good :) ) reason why uClinux-dist/Makefile clean: target now 
deletes the $(LINUX)/include/asm symlink?


This means that after a make clean you have to make oldconfig to get the 
symlink back.  Perhaps this should be in distclean rather than clean?


Cheers,

John


Greg Ungerer wrote:


Hi All,

I have generated a uClinux-dist-20070130 release. You can get it
from the usual place:

http://www.uclinux.org/pub/uClinux/dist/uClinux-dist-20070130.tar.gz
http://www.uclinux.org/pub/uClinux/dist/uClinux-dist-20070130.tar.bz2

The uClinux-dist CVS, at cvs.uclinux.org, has been updated as well.

It contains:

. linux-2.6.19-uc0
. linux-2.4.32-uc0
. linux-2.0.39-uc2
. uClibc-0.9.27
. _lots_ of other application packages (as usual :-)
. _many_ new targets as well

Regards
Greg




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RE: [uClinux-dev] 5282 and 2GB SD cards

2007-02-22 Thread Bob Furber
Hi Nat,

> Yes I understand that, but assuming 512 to be the default is a
> violation of
> MMC specification 3.1, and I think it's better not to assume the hardware
> violates it (even if it does at the moment).
>
> This way, if some "crazy" manufacturer actually implements the
> specification,
> the software still works.

At some point you will have to come to terms with the fact that SD cards
have outgrown the SD standard ;o)

The SD standard calls for a 128 bit descriptor (someone was thinking small)
called the CSD. It has a 12 bit field to hold the number of blocks (c_size)
and a 3 bit field to shift c_size (c_size_mult). The numner of blocks is
calculated:

BLOCKNR = ((csd.c_size + 1)*(0x01 << (csd.c_size_mult + 2)))

Filling all these fields completely allows for a max of
  = (4095 + 1) * (0x01 << (7 + 2) )
= 2097152 blocks
  = 1MB at 512 bytes per block

So, if you make SD cards, you can make 2G, 4G and 8G cards and there is a
market for them, what do you do? How do you get a card to convey that it is
larger than 1MB?

It so happens that the 4 bit csd.rd_bl_len field that determines block
length has some wiggle room. The block length is calculated:

BLOCK_LEN = (0x01 << csd.rd_bl_len)

But, everyone (except me) knows that all SD cards are accessed with 512 byte
blocks (csd.rd_bl_len = 9). With 4 bits, csd.rd_bl_len could be as large as
15 (32768 bytes). So, this is where the extra size has been placed. Where
would you place it?

In the meantime, a new, proprietary SDHC standard has been established and
we will start seeing SDHC capable devices (cameras, camcorders, etc.). These
devices will be capable of recognizing and reading both SD and SDHC cards.
The challenge for us will be how to get hold of the SDHC standard so we can
add SDHC support to Linux/uClinux.

RF

> On Thursday 22 February 2007 3:18 pm, Wolfgang Mües wrote:
> > On Mittwoch, 21. Februar 2007, NZG wrote:
> > > Personally I'll probably just force all cards to a 512 block size.
> > > Any card that ignores this command and wants to use a different size
> > > is just going to have to be declared unsupported to support this new
> > > SD garbage.
> >
> > You don't need to set a block size. 512 is the default, even for those
> > cards which have 1024 in the csd...
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Wolfgang
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Re: [uClinux-dev] 5282 and 2GB SD cards

2007-02-22 Thread NZG
Yes I understand that, but assuming 512 to be the default is a violation of 
MMC specification 3.1, and I think it's better not to assume the hardware 
violates it (even if it does at the moment).

This way, if some "crazy" manufacturer actually implements the specification, 
the software still works.

NZG

On Thursday 22 February 2007 3:18 pm, Wolfgang Mües wrote:
> On Mittwoch, 21. Februar 2007, NZG wrote:
> > Personally I'll probably just force all cards to a 512 block size.
> > Any card that ignores this command and wants to use a different size
> > is just going to have to be declared unsupported to support this new
> > SD garbage.
>
> You don't need to set a block size. 512 is the default, even for those
> cards which have 1024 in the csd...
>
> regards
>
> Wolfgang
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Re: [uClinux-dev] 5282 and 2GB SD cards

2007-02-22 Thread Wolfgang Mües
On Mittwoch, 21. Februar 2007, NZG wrote:
> Personally I'll probably just force all cards to a 512 block size.
> Any card that ignores this command and wants to use a different size
> is just going to have to be declared unsupported to support this new
> SD garbage.

You don't need to set a block size. 512 is the default, even for those 
cards which have 1024 in the csd...

regards

Wolfgang
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[uClinux-dev] Bad uClinux performance on Spartan-2e.

2007-02-22 Thread Leonid
Hi:

I have Spartan-2e board here which resembles to certain extent
Spartan-3e starter kit. There are differences however - SDRAM instead of
DDR, older Microblaze core, higher CPU clock, EMAC instead Etherlite,
etc... I've attached auto-config.h files, generated by Petalogix BSP for
both cases. 

I managed to compile and run u-boot and uClinux for both boards.

However there is visible delay - 3-5 sec - when start any application
(like "ls" for instance) on my Spartan-2e target under uClinux. The
following observations have been done:

1) Delay depends on application's size: "ls" which in fact starts
busybox
(200K) takes several seconds to start while small "cat" launches
quickly.

2) On Spartan-3e Starter Kit delay is also visible, but less than on my
Spartan-2e based HW. Note that the Starter Kit CPU clock is little bit
slower than mine (50MHz vs. 64MHz).

3) Simple memory read/write tests (I ran them from BRAM based code) show
that my board performs even better than starter kit which is to be
expected provided that clock is higher.

I sounds for me that uClinux kernel uses some resources (cashes?) which
are not well supported in older Spartan-2e architecture. Can somebody
give me an idea where to look?

Thanks,

Leonid.


auto-config-spartan-3e.h
Description: auto-config-spartan-3e.h


auto-config-spartan-2e.h
Description: auto-config-spartan-2e.h
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Re: [uClinux-dev] BusyBox issues

2007-02-22 Thread Robert S. Grimes
Boy, I sure touched a live wire here, eh?  Still, Thanks!

Steve Bennett wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> This often (always?) happens if you reconfigure busybox and rebuild.
> The solution is simply to clean out busybox after reconfiguring to ensure
> that everything is rebuilt.
>
> $ make user/busybox_clean
>
> Cheers,
> Steve
>
> On 22/02/2007, at 10:45 AM, Robert S. Grimes wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm not sure, but it seems BusyBox is difficult to build.  I don't
>> really know what is going on, but here's my experience so far.
>>
>> The first time I attempted to build uClinux (uClinux-dist-20070130,
>> target board M5329EVB, ColdFire 5329), I selected a goodly number of
>> BusyBox "commands".  It would not build, seeming to fail during
>> linking.  So I reconfigured without it, and it all built fine.
>>
>> Then, I needed insmod, which seems to only ,be in BusyBox.  I added
>> it, selecting insmod (and I think find) and it built properly this
>> time.  Later, I added some more, and then it would not build again!
>>
>> So, I removed BusyBox, built the uClinux image just fine.  Then, I
>> reconfigured to include it, and just insmod, and it built again.
>>
>> I wish I wrote down the errors, but I recall they were of the form
>> 'main_more not found' (or perhaps 'more_main'?).  Others include
>> main_ls, main_ls, main_mv (or again, the other order?).  So I'm
>> wondering: is there some sort of conflict between BusyBox "commands"
>> and their "standalone" equivalents?  Or am I missing something?  It
>> seems building BusyBox is rather fragile, but I think it is something
>> I'm doing wrong - is that right?
>>
>> Thanks, all!
>> -Bob
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Re: [uClinux-dev] BusyBox issues

2007-02-22 Thread Per Hallsmark

Hi Doug,

Yes, you are correct, one of the main differences is the extra directory 
level.

It looks simple but one actually gets alot from it, separating the snapgears
makefiles (or building framework to put a name for it) from whatever build
framework a package may have although most will have makefiles here too.
(there do exist packages with other type of build systems)

The main focus, I believe, should be that a open source build framework
should be able to use open source packages with as little changes as 
necessary.

Optimally, just untar'ing the package and the glue system will do the rest.

The uClinux/snapgear patch for a specific package, would be distributed
in the specific package patches directory, as I tried to describe in my 
first
mail. So a packed package directory may look like (adding a / at the end 
to make

it visible which are directories...)

snapgear/user/busybox/
   Makefile
   downloads/
   patches/

After the build, where the glue Makefile then have downloaded the
package (if nescessary) and applied any patches (if nescessary),
it will look like:

snapgear/user/busybox/
   Makefile
   downloads/
   patches/
   busybox-1.4.1/

Ultimatly, the uClinux/Snapgear distro could also be made alot
smaller since we don't have to put in every packages tarball in
the distro. This is in theory though because in practice it turns
out that some packages needs huge changes so the patch thing
would make it difficult to work with the package.

In my build environment (BiP, building in progess :) ) I had about
170 packages and about 15 of these didn't have any downloads
directory, this because of their strange build system (think asterisk and
zaptel... :) ). One has to be practical also, can't always run a idéa to its
full extension...

Another case is also when there is pure inhouse developed packages.
The pure inhouse packages can of course be stored in svn directly
without the download thing, but of course with a glue directory to
keep everything logically correct (and ease if such a need arises
later on).


Doug Kehn wrote:

Hi Per,

I believe your concept is similar to what Greg/David
have started with 'makefile' (versus 'Makefile'),
creating a build directory, and running configure from
the build directory (net-snmp and quagga are
examples).  In other words, 'makefile' contains the
uClinux/snapgear "glue".  The one difference, between
your proposal and makefile, is specifying the package
version and (I assume) creating an additional
directory level.  Also, the 'makefile' scheme, it
appears, is being applied as user packages are being
added and/or updated.

Another point to consider is uClinux/snapgear specific
patches for the package.  Presently, these patches are
applied directly to the package.  With an extra
directory level (???), would the uClinux/snapgear
patch be distributed in the parent directory and
applying the patch be incorporated into the "glue
makefile"?

Just running with your thought.
...doug

--- Per Hallsmark wrote:

  

Hi all,

This is why I some months ago suggested to take the
"glue makefile" 
concept in use :)


The glue makefile concept is that in snapgear/user
every "package" looks 
like this


snapgear/[user|lib]/
   Makefile

This structure is owned by snapgear. The "glue
makefile" is the makefile 
above.

The glue makefile is the little magician making it
work so much smoother,
I have this implemented in a "snapgear like build
environment" I did a 
couple

of years ago and when I started with the snapgear
stuff for a client, I was
thrilled how similar snapgear was/is :)

For a specific package, why not take busybox as
example :), it looks like:
snapgear/user/busybox
   Makefile
   busybox-1.4.1

The busybox-1.4.1 is as it comes from busbox site,
perhaps with bugfixes 
etc.

The thing is, we shouldn't spread around stuff in
the package just to be 
able to build it...

In the above scheme we don't have any nameclashes
whatsoever, we can do all
sorts of trix in the gluemakefile for configuring,
installing romfs etc 
without having

to modify the package itself.
It will also be much much quicker to update the
package to a newer version
and, which is quite important for longterm projects,
several versions 
can coexist

nicely.

Attached is an example of such a glue makefile,
which makes it possible to
integrate cyassl into snapgear/lib very easy.

To take some steps even further, here is some more
feature we can build into
this concept. A package will then look like:

snapgear/[user|lib]/
   Makefile
   downloads
   patches

The glue Makefile should now have functionality for
downloading the
package from network (if it isn't already in
downloads dir) and when
building it unpacks it and applies patches (if it
isn't unpacked already)
and as before build, install etc.
In this way, we also have a good sense of what
patches we do to a package.
It will be much simplier to bring these fixes
upstream.
It will also separate our fixes/additio

RE: [uClinux-dev] MCF5275EVB, booting linux from Flash

2007-02-22 Thread Mike Cruse
I found the patch as well so no need to send it. 

Thanks anyway,

Mike


On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 11:15 -0500, Calin Onofrei wrote:
>  Thanks Aitor,
> 
> I've found your patch for u-boot(u-boot-1.1.6-5275.patch. I have another 
> question please. After installing u-boot, there is any special configuration 
> for uclinux to start from Flash?
> Regards,
> Calin.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aitor Calderón
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:34 AM
> To: uClinux development list
> Subject: Re: [uClinux-dev] MCF5275EVB, booting linux from Flash
> 
> El Jueves, 22 de Febrero de 2007 15:07, Calin Onofrei escribió:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am able to boot uclinux with dBUG from SDRAM ("go 0x2") and now 
> > I want to boot uclinux from Flash (2MB). There is any procedure on how 
> > to do?
> > I prefer to keep dBUG, do I have to install coLilo? uclinux should be 
> > compressed/decompressed? how?
> 
> Maybe you can modificate dBUG to boot from flash. I think you need 
> CodeWarrior for that, so I have not tried it.
> 
> I have ported colilo and u-boot for m5275evb and I recomend you u-boot since 
> it has MORE functionalities than colilo ie. networking and flash writing. I 
> have sent the patch to u-boot list this week, or tell me if you want it.
> 
> u-boot runs starting at second MB, but then it has problems with the flash.
> I have it right now instead of dBUG with no problem. Only different commands 
> but same functions (or more).
> 
>  Regards,
>  Aitor.
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RE: [uClinux-dev] MCF5275EVB, booting linux from Flash

2007-02-22 Thread Calin Onofrei
 
Thanks Aitor,

I've found your patch for u-boot(u-boot-1.1.6-5275.patch. I have another 
question please. After installing u-boot, there is any special configuration 
for uclinux to start from Flash?
Regards,
Calin.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aitor Calderón
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:34 AM
To: uClinux development list
Subject: Re: [uClinux-dev] MCF5275EVB, booting linux from Flash

El Jueves, 22 de Febrero de 2007 15:07, Calin Onofrei escribió:
> Hi,
>
> I am able to boot uclinux with dBUG from SDRAM ("go 0x2") and now 
> I want to boot uclinux from Flash (2MB). There is any procedure on how 
> to do?
> I prefer to keep dBUG, do I have to install coLilo? uclinux should be 
> compressed/decompressed? how?

Maybe you can modificate dBUG to boot from flash. I think you need CodeWarrior 
for that, so I have not tried it.

I have ported colilo and u-boot for m5275evb and I recomend you u-boot since it 
has MORE functionalities than colilo ie. networking and flash writing. I have 
sent the patch to u-boot list this week, or tell me if you want it.

u-boot runs starting at second MB, but then it has problems with the flash.
I have it right now instead of dBUG with no problem. Only different commands 
but same functions (or more).

 Regards,
 Aitor.
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Re: [uClinux-dev] MCF5275EVB, booting linux from Flash

2007-02-22 Thread Mike Cruse
Hi Aitor,

I would really like to try your patches for uboot. Would you mind
sending them to me?

What version of uboot are you working with?

Mike


On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 15:34 +0100, Aitor Calderón wrote:
> El Jueves, 22 de Febrero de 2007 15:07, Calin Onofrei escribió:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am able to boot uclinux with dBUG from SDRAM ("go 0x2") and now I
> > want to boot uclinux from Flash (2MB). There is any procedure on how to
> > do?
> > I prefer to keep dBUG, do I have to install coLilo? uclinux should be
> > compressed/decompressed? how?
> 
> Maybe you can modificate dBUG to boot from flash. I think you need 
> CodeWarrior 
> for that, so I have not tried it.
> 
> I have ported colilo and u-boot for m5275evb and I recomend you u-boot since 
> it has MORE functionalities than colilo ie. networking and flash writing. I 
> have sent the patch to u-boot list this week, or tell me if you want it.
> 
> u-boot runs starting at second MB, but then it has problems with the flash.
> I have it right now instead of dBUG with no problem. Only different commands 
> but same functions (or more).
> 
>  Regards, 
>  Aitor.
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Re: [uClinux-dev] MCF5275EVB, booting linux from Flash

2007-02-22 Thread Aitor Calderón
El Jueves, 22 de Febrero de 2007 15:07, Calin Onofrei escribió:
> Hi,
>
> I am able to boot uclinux with dBUG from SDRAM ("go 0x2") and now I
> want to boot uclinux from Flash (2MB). There is any procedure on how to
> do?
> I prefer to keep dBUG, do I have to install coLilo? uclinux should be
> compressed/decompressed? how?

Maybe you can modificate dBUG to boot from flash. I think you need CodeWarrior 
for that, so I have not tried it.

I have ported colilo and u-boot for m5275evb and I recomend you u-boot since 
it has MORE functionalities than colilo ie. networking and flash writing. I 
have sent the patch to u-boot list this week, or tell me if you want it.

u-boot runs starting at second MB, but then it has problems with the flash.
I have it right now instead of dBUG with no problem. Only different commands 
but same functions (or more).

 Regards, 
 Aitor.
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[uClinux-dev] MCF5275EVB, booting linux from Flash

2007-02-22 Thread Calin Onofrei
Hi,
 
I am able to boot uclinux with dBUG from SDRAM ("go 0x2") and now I
want to boot uclinux from Flash (2MB). There is any procedure on how to
do?
I prefer to keep dBUG, do I have to install coLilo? uclinux should be
compressed/decompressed? how? 
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you,
Calin.
 

 

 
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Re: [uClinux-dev] BusyBox issues

2007-02-22 Thread Doug Kehn
Hi Per,

I believe your concept is similar to what Greg/David
have started with 'makefile' (versus 'Makefile'),
creating a build directory, and running configure from
the build directory (net-snmp and quagga are
examples).  In other words, 'makefile' contains the
uClinux/snapgear "glue".  The one difference, between
your proposal and makefile, is specifying the package
version and (I assume) creating an additional
directory level.  Also, the 'makefile' scheme, it
appears, is being applied as user packages are being
added and/or updated.

Another point to consider is uClinux/snapgear specific
patches for the package.  Presently, these patches are
applied directly to the package.  With an extra
directory level (???), would the uClinux/snapgear
patch be distributed in the parent directory and
applying the patch be incorporated into the "glue
makefile"?

Just running with your thought.
...doug

--- Per Hallsmark wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> This is why I some months ago suggested to take the
> "glue makefile" 
> concept in use :)
> 
> The glue makefile concept is that in snapgear/user
> every "package" looks 
> like this
> 
> snapgear/[user|lib]/
>Makefile
> 
> This structure is owned by snapgear. The "glue
> makefile" is the makefile 
> above.
> The glue makefile is the little magician making it
> work so much smoother,
> I have this implemented in a "snapgear like build
> environment" I did a 
> couple
> of years ago and when I started with the snapgear
> stuff for a client, I was
> thrilled how similar snapgear was/is :)
> 
> For a specific package, why not take busybox as
> example :), it looks like:
> snapgear/user/busybox
>Makefile
>busybox-1.4.1
> 
> The busybox-1.4.1 is as it comes from busbox site,
> perhaps with bugfixes 
> etc.
> The thing is, we shouldn't spread around stuff in
> the package just to be 
> able to build it...
> In the above scheme we don't have any nameclashes
> whatsoever, we can do all
> sorts of trix in the gluemakefile for configuring,
> installing romfs etc 
> without having
> to modify the package itself.
> It will also be much much quicker to update the
> package to a newer version
> and, which is quite important for longterm projects,
> several versions 
> can coexist
> nicely.
> 
> Attached is an example of such a glue makefile,
> which makes it possible to
> integrate cyassl into snapgear/lib very easy.
> 
> To take some steps even further, here is some more
> feature we can build into
> this concept. A package will then look like:
> 
> snapgear/[user|lib]/
>Makefile
>downloads
>patches
> 
> The glue Makefile should now have functionality for
> downloading the
> package from network (if it isn't already in
> downloads dir) and when
> building it unpacks it and applies patches (if it
> isn't unpacked already)
> and as before build, install etc.
> In this way, we also have a good sense of what
> patches we do to a package.
> It will be much simplier to bring these fixes
> upstream.
> It will also separate our fixes/additions so that
> the package maintainer 
> understands
> the changes better (sometimes this is a really
> tidous job :) and perhaps 
> more
> easily will accept our changes.
> On the other hand, this is about where I think I
> lost you all because 
> there wasn't
> any feedback here... or perhaps it aint a good idea?
> :)
> 
> Best regards,
> Per
> 
> 
> David McCullough wrote:
> > Jivin John Williams lays it down ...
> >   
> >> Hi David,
> >>
> >> David McCullough wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Jivin John Williams lays it down ...
> >>>
> >>>   
>  David McCullough wrote:
> 
>  
> > Jivin Steve Bennett lays it down ...
> >
> >
> >   
> >> This often (always?) happens if you
> reconfigure busybox and rebuild.
> >> The solution is simply to clean out busybox
> after reconfiguring to  
> >> ensure
> >> that everything is rebuilt.
> >>
> >> $ make user/busybox_clean
> >> 
> > The code in user/busbox/Makefile is supposed
> to do a clean whenever
> > the config is changed.
> >
> > I think we should change:
> >
> > .config.mkconfig: $(ROOTDIR)/config/.config
> > ...
> > $(MAKE) clean; \
> > ...
> >
> > to a "distclean" perhaps to ensure everything
> is truly cleaned out.
> > Someone want to try it :-) :-)
> >   
>  I've found that if you change the busybox
> config, you have to rebuild it 
>  (make user_only) *twice* before doing a make
> romfs, to ensure all new 
>  applets are built and properly symlinked. 
> Never taken the time to 
>  figure out why, just a gotcha.
> 
>  Anyone else seen this?
>  
> >>> Most likely because there is no Makefile
> seperation,  as in the
> >>> Makefile that builds the config has probably got
> dependancies
> >>> on the config that do not get fixed.
> 

Re: [uClinux-dev] Can't get Gadget Serial driver to start on WindowsXPPro

2007-02-22 Thread Robert S. Grimes


Butok Andrey-B00423 wrote:
> Option 1:
>   The better way is to edit the
>   /uClinux-dist/vendors/Freescale/M5329EVB/Makefile
>
>   ...
>   DEVICES = \
>   ...
>   ttygserial,c,127,0 
>   ...
>   
Ah, this is what I was looking for - the better way!  As you can tell
from this question, I am extremely new to uClinux, though I've been
greatly impressed already!

It does look like I'll have to get my revision control setup (e.g.
vendor drop for uClinux, etc.) in place, now!

Thanks again!
-Bob
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[uClinux-dev] Re: [PATCH 4/4] NOMMU: Make it possible for RomFS to use MTD devices directly

2007-02-22 Thread David Howells
Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > +   brelse(bh);
> 
> A little fyi: brelse() is rather old-fashioned, and has a usually unneeded
> test for non-null bh in it.  In situations where we know that the pointer is 
> valid, let's please use put_bh().

That's what was in the old romfs.  I can make the change, though.

Hmmm... brelse() isn't quite equivalent to put_bh(), but the difference seems
just to be the message you get if you over-release a buffer head - and the
resulting refcount on the BH if that happens.

> Anyway, I'll assume that dwmw2 will be handling this patch series.

I assume so.

David
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[uClinux-dev] test

2007-02-22 Thread Daniele Ziglioli


--
Daniele Ziglioli
Signal S.r.l.



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Re: [uClinux-dev] BusyBox issues

2007-02-22 Thread Per Hallsmark

Hi all,

This is why I some months ago suggested to take the "glue makefile" 
concept in use :)


The glue makefile concept is that in snapgear/user every "package" looks 
like this


   snapgear/[user|lib]/
  Makefile

This structure is owned by snapgear. The "glue makefile" is the makefile 
above.

The glue makefile is the little magician making it work so much smoother,
I have this implemented in a "snapgear like build environment" I did a 
couple

of years ago and when I started with the snapgear stuff for a client, I was
thrilled how similar snapgear was/is :)

For a specific package, why not take busybox as example :), it looks like:
   snapgear/user/busybox
  Makefile
  busybox-1.4.1

The busybox-1.4.1 is as it comes from busbox site, perhaps with bugfixes 
etc.
The thing is, we shouldn't spread around stuff in the package just to be 
able to build it...

In the above scheme we don't have any nameclashes whatsoever, we can do all
sorts of trix in the gluemakefile for configuring, installing romfs etc 
without having

to modify the package itself.
It will also be much much quicker to update the package to a newer version
and, which is quite important for longterm projects, several versions 
can coexist

nicely.

Attached is an example of such a glue makefile, which makes it possible to
integrate cyassl into snapgear/lib very easy.

To take some steps even further, here is some more feature we can build into
this concept. A package will then look like:

   snapgear/[user|lib]/
  Makefile
  downloads
  patches

The glue Makefile should now have functionality for downloading the
package from network (if it isn't already in downloads dir) and when
building it unpacks it and applies patches (if it isn't unpacked already)
and as before build, install etc.
In this way, we also have a good sense of what patches we do to a package.
It will be much simplier to bring these fixes upstream.
It will also separate our fixes/additions so that the package maintainer 
understands
the changes better (sometimes this is a really tidous job :) and perhaps 
more

easily will accept our changes.
On the other hand, this is about where I think I lost you all because 
there wasn't

any feedback here... or perhaps it aint a good idea? :)

Best regards,
Per


David McCullough wrote:

Jivin John Williams lays it down ...
  

Hi David,

David McCullough wrote:


Jivin John Williams lays it down ...

  

David McCullough wrote:



Jivin Steve Bennett lays it down ...


  

This often (always?) happens if you reconfigure busybox and rebuild.
The solution is simply to clean out busybox after reconfiguring to  
ensure

that everything is rebuilt.

$ make user/busybox_clean


The code in user/busbox/Makefile is supposed to do a clean whenever
the config is changed.

I think we should change:

.config.mkconfig: $(ROOTDIR)/config/.config
...
$(MAKE) clean; \
...

to a "distclean" perhaps to ensure everything is truly cleaned out.
Someone want to try it :-) :-)
  
I've found that if you change the busybox config, you have to rebuild it 
(make user_only) *twice* before doing a make romfs, to ensure all new 
applets are built and properly symlinked.  Never taken the time to 
figure out why, just a gotcha.


Anyone else seen this?


Most likely because there is no Makefile seperation,  as in the
Makefile that builds the config has probably got dependancies
on the config that do not get fixed.

I am guessing a good solution will be:

 create a "makefile" that generates the config,  checks the config
 cleans the old build and rebuilds using the "Makefile" as needed.
  
I'm a bit wary of mixing lowercase and uppercase [mM]akefiles in the 
same dir, for the reason that one day I'll have to stop putting off 
supporting cygwin for MicroBlaze builds!  I know this is already done 
extensively, but no point in adding to it!


On that note, a while ago a Makefile.uc concept was proposed - 
user/Makefile would look for a .uc" makefile first and make -f on that, 
if possible.



There is always the GNUMakefile option as well.  Just seems uglier to
me.

The .uc would at least make it uc-specific I guess and able to be
included with source distros etc in a non-intrusive way.

  

that way it has no dependancies on anything busybox related.  Oh and
uses distclean  as well ;-)  Perhaps even have it build a symlink tree
so we can do all the BB stuff in a subdir so we can be really sure it
works as clean just removes the directory :-)

I can send an example of a "makefile" that does the symlinks if anyone 
wants

to tackle it,
  
This isn't urgent from my perspective, busy rebuilding toolchains at the 
moment :)



Joy :-)

Cheers,
Davidm

  


# Glue Makefile for yassl
#
# Author: Per Hallsmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#

PKG = cyassl-0.6.2

all: $(PKG)/Makefile
$(MAKE) -C $(PKG)

$(PKG)/Makefile:
cd 

[uClinux-dev] GTK DirectFB

2007-02-22 Thread xavier.montagne

Hi,

Did someone succeed to port the last GTK release to ARM9/Linux2.6 target 
(DirectFB) ? Now GTK needs a lot of additionnal libraries and a big memory 
space to run What is your experience on a 200MHz/64Mo RAM target ?


Regards,
Xavier


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Re: [uClinux-dev] BusyBox issues

2007-02-22 Thread Jamie Lokier
John Williams wrote:
> I've found that if you change the busybox config, you have to rebuild it 
> (make user_only) *twice* before doing a make romfs, to ensure all new 
> applets are built and properly symlinked.  Never taken the time to 
> figure out why, just a gotcha.
> 
> Anyone else seen this?

Last time I looked, (Busybox-1.00), it's because of a bug in Busybox's
Makefile.

It tries to create dependency files for each CONFIG_ option, just like
the Linux kernel does.  If that worked, changing the config would
trigger a recompile of only those files which are affected by the
option changes, which would be perfect.

But it doesn't work because a path is wrong somewhere in the Makefile.

-- Jamie
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