Re: ugnet_: "Federation the answer for Uganda" by Prof.Bukenya ( 1st May, 2002)
My question about what the question is drew two responses, not surprisingly from two arch-federalists. I thank both of you, gentlemen, for your responses. Mw Ssemakula, I am not satisfied with the status quo. What I remain unsure of is whether the ultimate cure is federalism, hence my query. Dr Kigongo, believe you me, if even a person like me (who sometimes pretends to be enlightened) struggles to know what the question is, then it cannot be obvious! There is no doubt that it is obvious to you, but I doubt that it is elusive to others just because they are not interested in Ugandan Affairs. Frankly, there are times when I feel we are approaching all Uganda's problems with the "if the only tool you have..." mentality. Hence, we have prescribed federo for the ailment of corruption, federo for underdevelopment, federo for the lack of national unity, federo for excessive presidential powers, federo for declining social services, and the list goes on. Makes one wonder: Is this federo animal not too good to be true? And if it is so good, what's keeping it at bay? Some time during the Odoki consultation exercise, I wrote ( in Weekly Topic) calling the whole thing an exercise in futility. I therefore agree with you that the appointment of the Ssempewa commission was an admission that the magic bullet (the 1995 Constitution) missed the target, after all. But it was bound to do just that, for someone, somewhere, decided that the answer for Uganda would be to write a new constitution! We are back to square one, because someone, somewhere, somehow, got wind of the fact that the bullet needed to be fine-tuned. Whatever concessions are made, whatever amendments are made, there will still be unresolved issues that will need another answer all together. I don't know what those will be, but it's in our nature to event more questions/problems. In the early 1990s, a few USA-based Ugandans started Ugandanet. Soon they were joined by others with e-mail access around the world. Those who followed the fortunes of this discussion forum will agree that the years 1994& 1995 were perhaps Ugandanet's finest hour. The Ugandan press could not get enough of the discussions you guys held. There was a meeting of minds when an issue of national importance arose. I remember the letter of protest against the swindling of funds at the Abuja Mission which was unanimously accepted by all. Indeed, even as late as 1996 it was possible to get a cross-sectional group of Ugandans writing an appeal for peace talks to end the Northern Conflict, and an even larger group signing the final document. To me that was when there was a "unitary" net for all Ugandans. The federo concept took over, with special interest fora started every other day. Today we have Bugandanet, Acholinet, Japnet, federonet, DPnet, UPCnet, OldBudonians.. My problem is, who is listening to whom? If all of us who are pro-federo bunch together and develop wonderful ideas on federalism on federonet, of what use are those ideas in getting others to our side? If we the "Japs" discuss our issues only amongst ourselves, do we blame the rest if they don't see things from our point of view? My question to you both, then, is if the fortunes of Ugandanet (and cyber-communication as a whole) were a model for Uganda, would you recommend unitarism or federalism? Best regards, Yoswa. What is your answer to the question, Dr Dambisya. Kigongo
ugnet_: AFRICANS TO WAR
FEBRUARY 2003 PAN AFRICAN FORUMAFRICANS AND THE AMERICAN IMPERIALIST WAR AGAINST IRAQAmerican President George Bush is a MAD IMPERIALIST RIDING A PAPER TIGER.Former South African President Nelson Mandela describes the United States ofAmerica as "One power with a President who has no foresight, who can notthink properly, is wanting to plunge the world into a holocaust."Mandela further said, "If there is a country that has committed unspeakableatrocities in the world, it is the United States of America...What Bushwants isto get hold of Iraqi oil."Bush's plans to invade Iraq to seize Iraq's vast oil reserves, may notresultin the outcomes he is seeking. Having been terrorised by American andBritishbombing raids over the past 10 years, the Iraqi people are being furtherterrorised by the threat of war and the use of nuclear weapons against them.TheIraqis have suffered 10 years of sanctions during which malnutrition,illnessesand lack of medical care and the death of over 1 million Iraqi children havewrecked their country. Yet, they may still possess the courage to frustrateAmerican imperialist plans.Following the United Nations Inspectors' Reports and the monsterdemonstrations in Britain and world-wide, the Bush administration now findsitself backed into NO WIN SITUATION of its own causing. What ever it does,itends up a loser. A declining super power, it faces further decline if itbeats atactical and diplomatic withdrawal from war. Should it be irrational enoughtolaunch its imperialist war to seize Iraq's oil assets, it faces much furtherandsteeper decline. International mass opposition to war is forcing it tochoosethe least worse option.The current situation shops the truth of Mao Tse Tung's statement that"UNITEDSTATES IMPERIALISM IS A PAPER TIGER. Last week, it was talking of warimmediately after Han's Blix's Report to the United Nations SecurityCouncil.This week, it is talking of war in three weeks. Its plans are being blownoffthe war course by the winds of international opposition to its plans forworlddomination.Africans have played a decisive role in blowing America's war plans offcourse. Mandela's statement above; South African President Thabo Mbeki'svocal opposition; the decision of the African Union to oppose America's warplans; the UNITY AND SOLIDARITY of the African Group on the UN SecurityCouncil; the vigorous opposition of North American African Organisations andAfrican peoples opposition in Britain; all these have contributed; all thesehave contributed to blowing America's war plans off course.The USA plans to invade Iraq under OPERATION SHOCK AND AWE. The fullmilitarymight of the USA is to be used against Iraq. These Mad Imperialists plan toshowthe world what Armageddon looks like by unleashing America's full militaryarsenal against the Iraqi people. Millions will be killed and untolddestructioncaused. Yet, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, isolated from the vastmajorityof British people, says this will be an act of humanity. As Michael Bradleypostulates in The Ice man Inheritance, love for killing people is one of thetraits of the Ice Man.Not only that, it wants to terrorise the rest of humanity into submission toAmerican military domination. France, Germany, Belgium, Russia and Chinarecognised that. That is why they have thwarted America's war plans and thatis why they will continue to thwart America's war plans.If the USA can get away with stealing Iraq's oil under the bogus cover ofdisarming Sadam Husein of weapons of mass destruction, it will be emboldenedto try to seize Africa's vast mineral and oil wealth.USA supervised the brutal slaughter of over 4 million Congolese in the proxywar fought on its behalf by Rwanda, Uganda and Burundi. But militaryintervention by Angola, Namibia and Zimbabwe defeated America's proxy waragainst the Congolese people. So United States imperialism is notinvincible, it can be defeated.Should America succeed in Iraq, it will have no qualms threatening Africanleaders and countries with invasion and war if they do not do its bidding.Africans be warned. Africa and Africans world-wide must sit up and takenotice and continue to develop and build our solidarity and unity in actionagainst the threats posed by United States imperialism.The African Communities in Britain must not stand aside and do nothing.Indeed, many participated in the monster demonstration held in London on15th February. What more must we do? What more can we do. These are some ofthe issues to be discussed at this February 2003 Pan African Forum.The speakers are: George Shiri of the Zimbabwe African National Union;Esther Stanford of the Forum For Africans and African Descendants Againstracism (UK);Ousman of the Movement For Justice in Africa, Gambia Section; and YawAdu-Larbi of the Convention Peoples Party of Ghana.The date of this Forum is Sunday 23rd February at 4 o'clock p.m.. The Venueis hackney Black Peoples Association, 18 Sto
ugnet_: IS MUSVENI THE PROBLEM OF UGANDA
Fellow Ugandans, let us have a family talk (A Lugaambo) The week end is closing in on us so fast that no one can know what will happen to us tomorrow. So I thought that before it closes on us, let me ask a very simple question that we all can understand may be we can have a good sleep. And this posting is for Ugandans only that is why I have not posted it to other forums, and if you are not a Ugandan do not read it. The question is, Is Museveni the problem? And I am asking this question from my heart, please ask your self the same question, your self and see if you have an answer on it. Why are we so dam? What is it that we are so dearly missing that has pulled our nation to these need greedy sufferings. Late last year, I went to Europe, and visited a number of nations, among which was Uk. In UK I went to a Ugandan lady's home, a lady I had never ever mate before, and this lady was not even a Muganda. But she looked in my eyes and remember this was my first time to see her, and her legs trembled as she made her case "Edward I just need peace in my country" That was a very powerful and touching statement. Now to people like my self, we start to wonder what can be done so that Ugandans of all calibre can have a right to go to Uganda and get out? For we have lived out here for several years, we have seen administrations coming and going, We have seen our neighbouring countries moving on and going, we are very smart and very educated people, for I have seen no single company that does not want to employ a Ugandan. The question is why are we so dam? Is it Obote? When I came in this country in 1984, I prayed to have the life to a time to be able to go back to Uganda, and I honestly was not praying to reach in 2003, for the medical condition I arrived in, was very pathetic. And if you have questions on that statement ask Chris Opoka my neighbour and a man who has proven him self to be a true friend, he will explain. But today I am in 2003 and I have no reason to believe that I can go back to Uganda than the couple of times I would go in under the cover of the night. Is this Obote's mistake? In my leaving in this country, I have made sure that I have not involved my self into political issues. Let me clarify that, I have made sure that I have no political affiliation, for a very simple reason, if I belong to Kabaka Yeka which of course as a Muganda must be my first choice, I must go with the chorus, I must sing only one song. What I mean if Ssabasaja makes a statement or if Buganda makes a statement I am not comfortable with I can not oppose it, for it is from Ssabasaja. This kind of belief is so detrimental that it has created so many enemies between our selves and in the process we have failed to move or to grow on. We have forums here which are so interesting, that if you debate the kind of Federalism you want in Uganda, you are deleted out of the forum. It is so hurting that if today ask what forum we have that combines Ugandans abroad, you can not get an answer, couple of Ugandans on Ugandanet, some on Ugandacom, some on DP or Uga something that Mwaami Bwanika runs, UNAA something on and on. Yet one would think that we as Ugandans would get a way where we can put our sorrows and power together to see that we can make changes into our nation. For you know what? I have been with Baganda's Alur,s Kakwa's you name it and all of them want Museveni to get out of power and we go home. At least in all nations and in all Ugandan meetings I have attended they all have a single call. Museveni and Movement get out of our nation. Then I wonder why can't we do it? But we have tried. And in the process we have made our aims clear. As Baganda we have looked into the crystal ball and seen the problem of Uganda, being Milton Obote and UPC. We have spent the entire adult age of our lives to preach that what ever happens to Uganda was a cause of Obote, when there is a war in Northern Uganda it is UPC not working with the government. And I have been accused to be a member of UPC way too long, in fact I have been accused to be financed by Lusaka, so there is nothing you can accuse me to scare me any more. But I have a question for you as a Ugandan, Are the problems we have in our country today caused by Milton Obote? Mwaami Kasangwawo, did this man really do so much damage that today in February 2003 people are being shot in Kampala fday light for Obote messed up Ugandans minds? Let us cross check our selves, Mwaami Matovu, When prisoners are put in safe houses, where they are made to drink their own urine and threatened to be bitten by poisonous snakes, is this Obote's problems? The RCs we know to be looters are they UPC wingers? What about the UPDF officers that rape women , Yes I am talking about those who are sent in Northern Uganda to rape every single woman and girl so that they can be infected by AIDS. Is this all works of UPC? (President Obot
ugnet_: A QUOTE OF THE WEEK
"The people who are here today are the people who put him (John Howard -The prime Minister of Australia) in power, and if he attacks Iraq, you can be sure of one thing - they'll put him out of power," Jim Soorley Brisbane Australia's Lord Mayor The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni Uganda is in Anarchy" Le groupe de transmission de Mulindwas " avec Yoweri Museveni, Ouganda est dans anarchy "
ugnet_: LC sacks executive, appoints wife, son
This is what M7 should have done a long time ago instead of fooling Ugandans with "Bicupili" democracy! Gook LC sacks executive, appoints wife, son By Herbert Mugagga Residents of Bamungaya, Najjembe sub-county in Mukono have staged a demonstrated after their chairman, Okongo Steven, sacked the entire LC executive.Mr Okongo sacked the entire executive for unclear reasons and appointed his wife and son at a village meeting on Tuesday.The residents protested the move and pitched camp at the sub-county headquarters, demanding that the chairman resigns.They said the whole village, with a population of 367 people, had only three pit latrines, with the chairman doing nothing about the situation. Its the members he has sacked who have been mobilising people to build latrines, said Edward Matovu.One of the sacked members said Mr. Okongo accused them of plotting to unseat him in 2006. When you work hard, he looks at you as a threat, the member said. LC-III chairman, Isabirye Juma, and the sub-county chief Basalidde intervened and calmed the residents who had resolved to stay at the sub-county headquarter until the chairman resigns.Mr. Okongo told reporters he would neither resign nor reverse his decision.He accused the sacked executive members of damaging his regimes reputation. That is why I sacked them and brought in my dear wife and son, he said. He also accused the officials of inciting violence among residents.February 16, 2003 11:45:58 Gook We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of bad people but also for the appalling silence of good people". M.L.King MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE*
RE: ugnet_: Re: If "Idi Amin was an Idiot," Then M7 is a bafoon!!!
Mulindwa, Be my guest. He has not yet contacted me. I hope he comes up quick before I spill another bean again. You know how I don't trust them RPA guys. They know it that I play no game of theirs too. Good luck. Bwambuga. "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Bwambuga >I wish I know. But some body on one of the Rwandees forums is looking for >you. I do not know what you did to him, if it was good then you are in good >books, but if it is bad, ran man. Give it time he will get in touch and what >happens next, is not my responsibility. In the mean time consider your self >sold. >Em > The Mulindwas communication group >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" > > >- Original Message - >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: ""Mulindwa Edward"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 7:23 PM >Subject: RE: If "Idi Amin was an Idiot," Then M7 is a bafoon!!! > > >> Ahaa! >> Mulindwa, thank you mucho. How much is my head worth? >> >> Bwambuga >> >> >> "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >Was some body asking me for Bwambuga's head? I do not remember whether is >> >was in Rwanda 1 on the other forum, but here we are. And I here by >deliver >> >his head to you. Live. >> >Em >> > The Mulindwas communication group >> >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" >> > >> > >> >- Original Message - >> >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:02 PM >> >Subject: RE: ugnet_: If "Idi Amin was an Idiot," Then M7 is a bafoon!!! >> > >> > >> >Netters, >> >It is circuitous for dictator Museveni to call previous leaders such >names. >> >Well it is okay for anybody to call people any name they see fit. But >with >> >dictator Museveni whose philosophy is "kill kill kill" I wonder what he >> >means. >> >Whatever he meant, if Iddi Amin was a fool and idiot who was imposed by >> >imperialists...", and Obote killed people in Luwero, then dictator >Museveni >> >is really a bafoon who cannot tell day light from night. Or is he >mentally >> >retarded. >> > >> >Bwambuga >> >--- >> >Omar Kezimbira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >>Idi Amin was an idiot - Museveni, The Monitor-6th February 2003By Rogers >> >MulindwaPresident Yoweri Museveni yesterday again attacked his >predecessors. >> >>Former dictator Idi Amin took the brunt of the president's attacks. >> >>"This Idi Amin was an idiot and a fool who had been put in power by the >> >imperialists," he said. >> >>Museveni was speaking at celebrations to mark the 22nd anniversary of >the >> >Uganda Peoples Defence Forces (formerly National Resistance Army) at >Bombo >> >Army headquarters. >> >>The president said the armed struggle launched in 1981 wasn't the first >> >resistance against poor leadership. >> >>He linked it to the struggle against Amin that started in 1971. >> >>He hailed the Tanzanians for the military support to Ugandan exiles who >> >fought to topple Amin from 1971 until they succeeded in April 1979. >> >>Museveni also blamed former president Milton Obote for using the army to >> >overthrow the 1962 constitution. >> >>"That's when we started relying on a gun to defend our country," he >said. >> >>Museveni said 70,000 people were killed by Obote's forces in Luwero. >> >>Their skulls are interred at several monuments across Luwero. >> >>Museveni said Amin had killed about 500,000 Ugandans between 1971 and >1979. >> >>"Those killing fellow Africans are agents of foreign interests," >Museveni >> >said. >> >>The president warned undisciplined soldiers. >> >>He said any soldier who kills innocent people would be shot. >> >>He said there were three such cases at the army court martial in >northern >> >Uganda. >> >>Museveni said the 17-year northern insurgency would end soon. >> >>The function was attended by five senior Sudanese army officers led by >Lt. >> >Gen. Mohammad. >> >>"I am happy that the Sudanese delegation is with us and I hope the >northern >> >border will soon be peaceful," he said. >> >>He accused former DR Congo presidents Mobutu Sese Seko and Laurent >Kabila >> >of being behind killings in western Uganda. >> >>"Mobutu and Kabila were sending terrorists into our country and we had >to >> >deal with them," Museveni said. >> >>He did not elaborate. >> >>He said since the Movement assumed power, university enrolment has >> >increased from 4,900 in 1986 to 57,000 in 2002. >> >>The number of pupils under Universal Primary Education has also risen >from >> >2.2 million to 7.4 million. >> >>Museveni said unemployment would be solved by having more industries. >> >>Army Commander Maj. Gen. James Kazini pledged Shs 500,000 to the best >guard >> >commander, Lt. D.J. Walimbwa. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>February 06, 2003 14:14:32 >> >> >> >>Return to index >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>- >> >>Do you Yahoo!? >> >>Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now >> >> >> >
ugnet_: NATO HAS JUST BROKEN AN IMPASSE ON IRAQ
NATO Breaks Monthlong Impasse on Iraq 14 minutes ago By PAUL GEITNER, Associated Press Writer BRUSSELS, Belgium - NATO (news - web sites), in the midst of its biggest rift since the Cold War, broke a monthlong stalemate Sunday over defensive actions in case of war in Iraq, reaffirming alliance solidarity while supporting U.N. efforts for a peaceful solution. "Alliance solidarity has prevailed," NATO Secretary-General Lord Robertson said. "We have been able collectively to overcome the impasse." After France was shut out of the room, two other holdouts Germany and Belgium dropped their objections to starting the planning for Turkey's defense immediately, NATO officials said. Belgium insisted at the last minute on linking any eventual NATO deployment to developments at the U.N. Security Council. But the final statement says: "We continue to support efforts in the United Nations (news - web sites) to find a peaceful solution to the crisis." NATO diplomats said the United States and other allies objected in principle to tying alliance decision-making to any other organization. For the past month, Belgium, France and Germany blocked a NATO decision to begin planning to help defend Turkey the only NATO ally bordering Iraq against any potential reprisals for a U.S. attack. They argued that such a move was premature and would undermine U.N. efforts to avoid a war. NATO, trying to end the stalemate, put the issue Sunday to its Defense Planning Committee, which excludes France. Paris left NATO's military command structure in the late 1960s and participates only in political consultations. The committee was used ahead of the 1991 war against Iraq to approve aid for Turkey. But NATO has sought to limit its use since the end of the Cold War in a spirit of rapprochement with Paris. Some progress was made after "very intensive negotiations," a NATO official said, adding that the idea of starting planning was now "uncontested." The United States proposed a month ago that the alliance consider sending early-warning AWACS aircraft, missile defenses and anti-biochemical units to Turkey. But after France, Germany and Belgium blocked that planning for three weeks, Turkey on Feb. 10 invoked NATO's mutual defense treaty, which binds the allies to talks when one feels threatened. Turkey feels especially vulnerable, especially as it considers allowing tens of thousands of U.S. soldiers to use Turkish facilities for a possible war on Iraq. The United States and its allies say denying support for Turkey's defense erodes the alliance's credibility and sends the wrong signal to Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites). Some of the measures can be done bilaterally Germany has already agreed to send Patriot missiles to Turkey via the Netherlands but those missiles need to be linked to NATO radar networks to be effective. Germany and other countries also have promised AWACS crews, but the planes themselves are NATO assets. The monthlong dispute has driven a deep wedge into the 53-year-old alliance. It also has exacerbated tensions within Europe ahead of Monday's emergency summit of 15 European Union (news - web sites) leaders, who are trying to reconcile their own differing policies on Iraq. Britain, Spain, Denmark and Italy have backed President Bush (news - web sites), while France and Germany have tried to slow what they view as his rush to war. The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni Uganda is in Anarchy" Le groupe de transmission de Mulindwas " avec Yoweri Museveni, Ouganda est dans anarchy "
ugnet_: Re: Museveni Convenes Cabinet to Discuss DRC Inquiry Report
Matek, "Museveni should and must be impeached for this offense. (That is if we had a functioning parliament)." Has the parliament not fled the country yet? Ocii [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/16/2003 6:53:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The panel had named Museveni, his brother, Salim Saleh, and several senior army officers as being involved in the exploitation of DRC's natural resources. It also implicated Rwanda, among others.Museveni rejected the panel's findings, but subsequently appointed the Porter commission to investigate the allegations made by the UN panel.Fellow Citizens:We can only wonder as to what Justice Porter come up with? What, if anything, will the Museveni military dictatorship do to reprimand those involved in the looting of DRC's natural resources? Can Museveni reprimand himself? .After all he is one of t! he thieves? The crimes Yoweri Museveni and his fellow BANDITS in the movement have committed in DRC Congo, is but a criminal offense. Museveni should and must be impeached for this offense. (That is if we had a functioning parliament). Only when this is done, then and only then will there be some sense of JUSTICE for the people of DRC CongoMembers of the United Nations security council should hold MUseveni and his GOONS accountable. nothing short. MatekPost your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals
ugnet_: TELEMATICS IN AFRICA
Telematics crucial in development of open, distance learning system By Dr Sikhanyiso Ndlovu I presented some of these ideas to the Pan-Commonwealth forum in Brunei a few years ago and they are part of the forthcoming Zimba-bwe university without walls being established by me. Cellphones are popular instruments of communications and I propose to use them for teaching and learning called "cellphone tutor", which is part of the educational telematics. Telematics plays a very crucial role in the development of open and distance learning system as education is made possible by means of various media which can cover long distances in a short space of time. Telematics in open and distance learning systems refers to the delivery of information from institutions, that is tutors, to distant learners through the use of telecommunications technologies such as the radio, television, telephone, video and audio cassettes, computers, satellites and cellphones. The use of technology for communications purposes was inherent in many pre-colonial and pre-industrial societies all over the world. Africa since time immemorial has perhaps been a world leader in distance communication using available local technologies. A good example was the use of the talking drum to send messages to people in distant places while others used the kudu horn. Advances in technology have now made it possible for two-way communication and interaction between the learner and the tutor. Distance education as a method of teaching and learning is made possible by the extensive use of technical multi-media which provide this vital two-way communication so that the student can benefit from and even initiate dialogue with the tutor and other learners. Distance and open learning systems have evolved in response to the demand for access to education at all levels, but specifically post-primary and higher education following the democratisation of education in many developing and the more developed countries. Unlike conventional education systems where the content of the subject is mainly communicated by word of mouth in a face-to-face learning situation, modern communication technologies are being used to reach a large number of learners of various age groups and in diverse non-face-to-face learning situations at any time. A virtual face-t-face situation can now be created, making it possible for audio and visual interaction to take place. In Zimbabwe, like in many other countries, telematics have created multiple opportunities for disseminating audio-visual information, with low- cost satellite-based technologies, for example, the areas now covered by radio, television and the telephone has increased tremendously and now cover almost the entire country. With the help of terrestrial transmission networks and satellite-based communication, the radio is able to reach the entire length and breadth of the country, with the telephone and its improved versions, people all over the country can reach each other instantly. Telephones with a fax machine have made postal systems more efficient. People from distant places can now send and receive information without any delays. Computer technology brought about tremendous advantages. Similarly, videotext technology adds the possibility and having access to more information by turning the home television into a computer terminal. This technology can retrieve textual information, figures and graphics from remote databases, and also allow people to have access to various frames of information on their television screens connected to a computer database. Through wireless transmission, people can, without travelling or attending workshops, physically have the same functions done through audio, video or computer teleconferencing. Communication technology is also used to teach. With it, distance education has proved that learning is possible anytime, anywhere and the barriers of time and space to teaching and learning have been broken. Advanced communication technologies such as video-text, video disc and computers are being used for education in developed countries. Being expensive and sophisticated, these technologies are not frequently used in developing countries, including Zimbabwe. Broadcasting technology has been and is being used for education and development in the developing countries in general, including Zimbabwe. The importance of telematics in education lies in its student centredness. The student can use the cellphone, radio, television, computers, videotext, telex to increase knowledge, gather, process and store information. With the growth and availability of electronic media, distance education has taken a very gigantic leap into the area of student support services. Electronic media can give tremendous support to distance learners. In fact, student support is the mainstay in the successful implementation of distance education programmes.
Fw: ugnet_: MAI MAI web site
I think this should be accessible. Thanks Walker Em The Mulindwas communication group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: ugnet_: MAI MAI web site If you are interested in reading the communiques and position statement of the MAI MAI fighters in the Congo they have invited us to review their web site at: http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ The site is in French. So if you do not understand French, you could try this online translator, at http://dictionary.reference.com/translate/text.html Just copy the text you want translated, into the "To translate plain text, type or paste here:" box, and select French to English in the "Translate from" box immediately below "To translate plain text, type or paste here:" box. This does not give you a perfect translation but it will give you the gist with a little intuition on your part.
ugnet_: AUSTRIA BLOCKING US TROOP MOOVMENTS
2-16-3 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Thursday accused Austria of blocking the movement of U.S. troops from Germany by rail through that neutral country to Italy, apparently part of a buildup of American forces preparing for possible war against Iraq. He complained that it would take additional days to get the troops where they were going and told the Senate Armed Services Committee it was an example of problems in stationing more than 100,000 U.S. troops in Europe, including 70,000 in Germany. "Right now, for example, we're trying to move some forces from Germany down to Italy, and Austria is causing a difficulty with respect to moving the forces through Austria by rail," Rumsfeld said. "Which means we may have to go up to Rotterdam (in the Netherlands) or possibly by train through two, or three, or four countries. It's better (to move) directly," he said. A spokesman at the Austrian Embassy in Washington confirmed that the movement of U.S. troops was being temporarily blocked by his country. Austria is a neutral state and restricts the movement of foreign military equipment across its territory. Rumsfeld, questioned by reporters after the committee meeting, refused to say whether the troops in question were part of contingents of armored and other U.S. forces being sent from Germany toward the Gulf. MAJOR CONTROVERSY IN EUROPE The looming prospects for a possible U.S.-led war with Iraq have caused sharp political splits in Europe, where NATO members Germany and France have thrown up barriers at both alliance headquarters in Brussels and at the United Nations in New York to slow any progress toward war in Iraq. "I just heard about it this morning," Rumsfeld told reporters of the Austria situation. "And they (the U.S. military) have already developed two work-arounds -- two by rail, one by sea -- all of which take extra days." Christoph Meran, press counselor at the Austrian Embassy in Washington, told Reuters he understood that movement of the U.S. troops was being at least temporarily blocked because his country had rules allowing the movement of equipment and troops, but only under certain circumstances. "Austria has been asked for some materiel to be moved down, but it turned out to be troops," Meran said. Rumsfeld repeated comments by the White House earlier this week that the United States was closely studying the possible realignment of American forces around the world, possibly bringing some home and establishing well-protected military "hubs" through which troops could be quickly deployed overseas from the United States. "It's clear: It's better for us probably not to have such a heavy concentration" of troops in many countries, the secretary told the committee. Rumsfeld stressed that any changes in basing of U.S. troops would only be done "over a reasonable period of time" and in close consultation with allies. The open opposition by Germany and France to war with Iraq, including a move in NATO to halt alliance protection for Turkey in any such war, has raised anger in the U.S. Congress and sparked demands from some lawmakers to slash U.S. troop basing in Germany. But Rumsfeld said the United States would not shift troops simply to retaliate. "It would be a mistake to suggest that if we do end up reducing some of those forces by moving them to other countries that it had anything to do with our relationships with those countries. Because it simply doesn't," he said. The Mulindwas communication group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
ugnet_: PEOPLE HELP HERE !!
Dele Bush to apologize? No that word is not in the Texas dictionary. And I defer from you on Collin Powell, He has been a man I do not trust from day one. You remember when people said that he should stand for Presidency, my heart went to its lowest. Because he is like James Baker. He hugs you with a wide smile as his hand is stabbing you in the back. Let us hope Americans learn a lesson. Oh by the way John Major if loosing weight by the day. Thanks for your thoughts. Em The Mulindwas communication group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" - Original Message - From: TripleO To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Rwanda ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] PEOPLE HELP HERE !! Good questions but with left out options. One of the options that is left out is - Should Bush apologize to the world or not? My answer is: Bush has no moral standard to attack Iraq, he should juts withdraw in shame and tender an apology to the world. The victim you asked? Colin Powel came up in my crystal ball. Because this man is well respected and the hawks in Bush administration do not like this so they wanted to destroy him but he is too naive to understand the game. Hence his head will be used to crack the coconut and they say - the head that is used to crack the coconut will not wait to eat from it. Dele Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
ugnet_: MAI MAI web site
If you are interested in reading the communiques and position statement of the MAI MAI fighters in the Congo they have invited us to review their web site at: http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ The site is in French. So if you do not understand French, you could try this online translator, at http://dictionary.reference.com/translate/text.html Just copy the text you want translated, into the "To translate plain text, type or paste here:" box, and select French to English in the "Translate from" box immediately below "To translate plain text, type or paste here:" box. This does not give you a perfect translation but it will give you the gist with a little intuition on your part.
ugnet_: : A War Crime Or an Act of War?
HEADLINE: A War Crime Or an Act of War? BYLINE: By Stephen C. Pelletiere; Stephen C. Pelletiere is author of "Iraq and the International Oil System: Why America Went to War in the Persian Gulf." DATELINE: MECHANICSBURG, Pa. BODY: It was no surprise that President Bush, lacking smoking-gun evidence of Iraq's weapons programs, used his State of the Union address to re-emphasize the moral case for an invasion: "The dictator who is assembling the world's most dangerous weapons has already used them on whole villages, leaving thousands of his own citizens dead, blind or disfigured." The accusation that Iraq has used chemical weapons against its citizens is a familiar part of the debate. The piece of hard evidence most frequently brought up concerns the gassing of Iraqi Kurds at the town of Halabja in March 1988, near the end of the eight-year Iran-Iraq war. President Bush himself has cited Iraq's "gassing its own people," specifically at Halabja, as a reason to topple Saddam Hussein. But the truth is, all we know for certain is that Kurds were bombarded with poison gas that day at Halabja. We cannot say with any certainty that Iraqi chemical weapons killed the Kurds. This is not the only distortion in the Halabja story. I am in a position to know because, as the Central Intelligence Agency's senior political analyst on Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war, and as a professor at the Army War College from 1988 to 2000, I was privy to much of the classified material that flowed through Washington having to do with the Persian Gulf. In addition, I headed a 1991 Army investigation into how the Iraqis would fight a war against the United States; the classified version of the report went into great detail on the Halabja affair. This much about the gassing at Halabja we undoubtedly know: it came about in the course of a battle between Iraqis and Iranians. Iraq used chemical weapons to try to kill Iranians who had seized the town, which is in northern Iraq not far from the Iranian border. The Kurdish civilians who died had the misfortune to be caught up in that exchange. But they were not Iraq's main target. And the story gets murkier: immediately after the battle the United States Defense Intelligence Agency investigated and produced a classified report, which it circulated within the intelligence community on a need-to-know basis. That study asserted that it was Iranian gas that killed the Kurds, not Iraqi gas. The agency did find that each side used gas against the other in the battle around Halabja. The condition of the dead Kurds' bodies,however, indicated they had been killed with a blood agent -- that is, a cyanide-based gas -- which Iran was known to use. The Iraqis, who are thought to have used mustard gas in the battle, are not known to have possessed blood agents at the time. These facts have long been in the public domain but, extraordinarily, as often as the Halabja affair is cited, they are rarely mentioned. A much-discussed article in The New Yorker last March did not make reference to the Defense Intelligence Agency report or consider that Iranian gas might have killed the Kurds. On the rare occasions the report is brought up, there is usually speculation, with no proof, that it was skewed out of American political favoritism toward Iraq in its war against Iran. I am not trying to rehabilitate the character of Saddam Hussein. He has much to answer for in the area of human rights abuses. But accusing him of gassing his own people at Halabja as an act of genocide is not correct, because as far as the information we have goes, all of the cases where gas was used involved battles. These were tragedies of war. There may be justifications for invading Iraq, but Halabja is not one of them. In fact, those who really feel that the disaster at Halabja has bearing on today might want to consider a different question: Why was Iran so keen on taking the town? A closer look may shed light on America's impetus to invade Iraq. We are constantly reminded that Iraq has perhaps the world's largest reserves of oil. But in a regional and perhaps even geopolitical sense, it may be more important that Iraq has the most extensive river system in the Middle East. In addition to the Tigris and Euphrates, there are the Greater Zab and Lesser Zab rivers in the north of the country. Iraq was covered with irrigation works by the sixth century A.D., and was a granary for the region. Before the Persian Gulf war, Iraq had built an impressive system of dams and river control projects, the largest being the Darbandikhan dam in the Kurdish area. And it was this dam the Iranians were aiming to take control of when they seized Halabja. In the 1990's there was much discussion over the construction of a so-called Peace Pipeline that would bring the waters of the Tigris and Euphrates south
ugnet_: ONE MILLION OF THEM AND........
One Million. And Still They Came The Observer UK Sunday February 16, 2003 Euan Ferguson reports on a historic peace march whose massive turnout surpassed the organisers' wildest expectations and Tony Blair's worst fears. 'Are there any more coming, then?' There have been dafter questions, but not many. At 1.10 yesterday afternoon, Mike Wiseman from Newcastle upon Tyne placed his accordion carefully on the ground below Hyde Park's gates and rubbed cold hands together. Two elderly women, hand in hand in furs, passed through, still humming the dying notes from his 'Give Peace A Chance'. They were, had he known it, early, part of a tiny crowd straggling into Hyde Park before the march proper. Half a mile away, round the corner in Piccadilly, the ground shook. An ocean, a perfect storm of people. Banners, a bobbing cherry-blossom of banners, covered every inch back to the Circus - and for miles beyond, south to the river, north to Euston. Ahead of the marchers lay one remaining silent half-mile. The unprecedented turnout had shocked the organisers, shocked the marchers. And there at the end before them, high on top of the Wellington Arch, the four obsidian stallions and their vicious conquering chariot, the very Spirit of War, were stilled, rearing back - caught, and held, in the bare branches and bright chill of Piccadilly, London, on Saturday 15 February 2003. Are there any more coming? Yes, Mike. Yes, I think there are some more coming. It was the biggest public demonstration ever held in Britain, surpassing every one of the organisers' wildest expectations and Tony Blair's worst fears, and it will be remembered for the bleak bitterness of the day and the colourful warmth of feeling in the extraordinary crowds. Organisers claimed that more than 1.5 million had turned out; even the police agreed to 750,000 and rising. By three o'clock in the afternoon they were still streaming out of Tube stations to join the end of the two routes, from Gower Street in the north and Embankment by the river. 'Must be another march,' grumbled the taxi driver, then, trying in vain to negotiate Tottenham Court Road. No, I said; it's the same one, still going, and he turned his head in shock. 'Bloody Jesus! Well, good luck to them I say.' There were, of course, the usual suspects - CND, Socialist Workers' Party, the anarchists. But even they looked shocked at the number of their fellow marchers: it is safe to say they had never experienced such a mass of humanity. There were nuns. Toddlers. Women barristers. The Eton George Orwell Society. Archaeologists Against War. Walthamstow Catholic Church, the Swaffham Women's Choir and Notts County Supporters Say Make Love Not War (And a Home Win against Bristol would be Nice). They won 2-0, by the way. One group of SWP stalwarts were joined, for the first march in any of their histories, by their mothers. There were country folk and lecturers, dentists and poulterers, a hairdresser from Cardiff and a poet from Cheltenham. I called a friend at two o'clock, who was still making her ponderous way along the Embankment - 'It's not a march yet, more of record shuffle' - and she expressed delight at her first protest. 'You wouldn't believe it; there are girls here with good nails and really nice bags .' Cheer upon cheer went up. There were cheers as marchers were given updates about turnout elsewhere in the world - 90,000 in Glasgow, two million on the streets of Rome. There was a glorious cheer, at Piccadilly Circus, when the twin ribbons met, just before one o'clock. The mood was astonishingly friendly. 'Would you like a placard, sir?' Sir? The police laughed. One, stopping a marcher from going through a barricade in Trafalgar Square, told him it was a sterile area, only to be met with a hearty backslap. 'Sterile area? Where did that one come from.' 'I know,' shrugged the bobby. 'Bollocks language, isn't it?' And the talk was of politics, yes, but not just politics. There were not the detailed arguments we had had, even during the last peace march in November, over UN resolutions and future codicils. This march was not really about politics; it was about humanitarianism. 'I'm not political, not at all. I don't even watch the news,' said Alvina Desir, queuing on the Embankment for the start of the march at noon. 'I've never been on a march in my life and never had any intention. But something's happened recently, to me and so many friends - we just know there's something going wrong in this country. No one's being consulted, and it's starting to feel worrying - more worrying than the scaremongering we've been getting about the terrorist threat. I simply don't see how war can be the answer and I don't know anyone who does. And, apart from anything else, as a black woman in London, it feels dangerous to spread racial tension after all that's been done.' A Cheshire fireman nearby said: 'They will take notice of a p
ugnet_: AIDS NO MORE
AIDS NO MORE by Dr. Leo RebelloPresident, AIDS Alternativa International, Bombay 28/552, Samata Nagar, Kandivali East, Bombay 400101, IndiaEmail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website : www.aidsalternativa.org AIDS is the greatest myth of our times. Inspite of voluminous evidence which shows that HIV is not AIDS, the myth is kept deliberately going so that the following multi-trillion dollar industries keep prospering: (a) Latex industry: condoms in simple word, even children know its use now. Boys and girls as young as 15, who were earlier afraid of sex, are now experimenting with condoms giving rise to condom ethics, condom culture, condom civilization, condom protection, all of which is as fragile as the condom itself. There are two types of condoms - male and female. The production, sale and use of female condoms are restricted. After the condom accidents the ever-alert marketing men invented double hat protection that means using two condoms to be doubly sure! Simple logic you see: if one condom can protect 50% two give 100% protection! (b) Eventhough HIV testing is unreliable, non-standardized and dangerous, this is a big business. HIV tests include mostly Elisa and Western Blot, which cross-react with over 60 known medical conditions and illnesses. That means they are positively programmed to create scare! (c) Then there are microbicides, ostensibly to protect the women. Oils, creams, lotions, gels, pessaries and ofcourse other paraphernalia like stimulators, scrubbers, etc. Presently there is war between chemical microbicides and herbal microbicides for market share. Consumer, as usual, is at the receiving end. (d) But by far the most lucrative business is the chemical medicines as usual-protease inhibitors, cocktails, anti-retroviral, HAART/multi-drug regimen, vitamin supplements. Costlier the medicines more effective they are, is the false belief on which the mercenary medical mafia cashes on. (e) Some one has invented AIDS Counseling. The counselor is as ignorant as the patient. AIDS Counseling includes telling HIV positive patient to live with it. Further telling him/her that there is no known cure. Scientists are working on Vaccines. Anti-retroviral are life-savings. They are costly, but if you do not take them you will die and then what will happen to your family? If a patient were to ask about Alternative Medicine, improved nutrition, change in life style, prompt comes the reply they are all dangerous. Beware of the quacks! That in short is AIDS Counseling. (f) Then there are AIDS Advocates (usually Americans but working in sub-Saharan Africa) promoting the use of lethal chemical drugs and fighting for and on behalf of the poor patients to reduce their price, influencing health ministries to underwrite the costs of life-saving drugs and promoting free or subsidized distribution of AIDS drugs, including to pregnant mothers ostensibly to save the unborn. If there is no food to eat, water to drink, clothes to wear, no problem. But you must have medicines, more the better. They refuse to accept that Nkosi Johnson, an 11-year old boy, died because of harsh treatment - 50 capsules/tablets, three times a day. A single judge (he is married alright!), in South Africa decides what the Presidential Panel of Expert International Doctors could not. Human rights concern you see and he thinks he is the great Solomon and the President of South Africa and his panel of experts are fools! (g) How can we forget the AIDS conferences and AIDS journalists: local, regional, national and international? Big business. The same people, sponsored by the pharma-ceutical companies, parroting the same thing without application of mind, running down those who question them, throwing to wind ethics, morals, professionalism, not considering alternative medicine, ideas, experiments, vision or approaches. Very unscientific. Ever since AIDS was rediscovered in 1981, it has threatened the very fabric of society. It was rediscovered by the proponents of modern medicine to camouflage its dismal performance in the cause, the course and the cure of major maladies. There is no known cure for HIV/AIDS is the frightening refrain that you get to hear, not only in Sub-Saharan Africa, but also in Asia. Those who gave you the idea that people have to live with AIDS, also tell you that you have to live with diabetes, with asthma, with epilepsy, with cancers, with muscular dystrophy, with stress and allergies! It will be my pleasure to remove this wrong notion. If you can give up your old habits, you can also be cured of any malady - physical, mental, emotional or spiritual : druglessly. Anti-retroviral drugs (ARVs) offer no cure for AIDS. US federal health authorities which earlier supported David Hos "hit hard and early" to control "AIDS epidemic" argument, now realize that it was a hoax. The toxic effects of ARVs include nerve damage, weakened bones, unusual a
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Netters Based on what we know now, based on the discussions we have got so far by this Sunday morning on interviews with the British and French ambassadors. And the massive march of the populace from yesterday and to today. If you were this administration adviser, what would you advise? 1) Let Bush wait for resolutions in the security council as he continues to foot the bill of maintaining his huge force in the Middle East? 2) Let Bush attack and now? 3) Let Bush start to pull the forces back and stop pumping in any more? Secondly in this whole saga who is going to be the victim? 1) The secretary of Defence? 2) The secretary of State? 3) The national security advisor? 4) George Bush him self? 5) Sadam Hussein? A note Americans have dismissed Mohammed Allawi, an Iraqi journalist who has been reporting from the UN head quarters. And 11 Australian soldiers have been flown back from Kuwait to Sydney for they refuse to take the Anthrax immunization. It is alleged that the Australian Government does not force its soldiers to get it. The story is different is you are an American soldier. G'Day Em The Mulindwas communication group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
ugnet_: Museveni Convenes Cabinet to Discuss DRC Inquiry Report
Matek I started on that issue last Thursday to no avail, may be movementists in the forum can help us. Em The Mulindwas communication group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:20 AM Subject: ugnet_: Re: [Ugandacom] Museveni Convenes Cabinet to Discuss DRC Inquiry Report In a message dated 2/16/2003 7:06:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MatekThe English language has a word that I want to introduce to you today "Doctored"EmEM:get me that report ASAP!.. that is if you can..Museveni could be in a trap!!!Matek
ugnet_: Col. Muzoora flees to Kigali: Uganda, Rwanda to talk over Muzoora
Uganda, Rwanda talk over Muzoora - Monitor 16/02/2003 By David KibirigeIts out of our Hands - army Government has said it is going talk to Rwanda over Colonel Edison Muzoora, who is reported to have fled to Kigali.The Minister of Foreign Affairs James Wapakhabulo told Sunday Monitor on Saturday morning from Nairobi, Kenya that Uganda has opted to handle the matter through diplomatic channels. I am in Nairobi now and have not read that story about Colonel Muzoora fleeing to Rwanda. However there are arrangements between the two countries where political refugees are not supposed to engage in any political activities which might destabilise the countries, he said over the phone. Mr. Wapakhabulo said: We will first talk to Rwanda because there are mechanisms which were put in place.Colonel Muzoora went missing February 7 from his home village in Kyeigombe Kyabugimbi sub-county Bushenyi district. He is a former commander of the Gulu-based 4 Division and in 2001 he was the UPDF sector commander in Beni, Congo.He had just been recommended for a senior commanders course in China.His friends in the army describe him a reserved, strict and very disciplined officer.Army Spokesman Major Shaban Bantariza on Saturday denied the colonel was about to be arrested and said the matter can now only be handled bilaterally.We as the army can not handle that, he said.In response to Mr Wapakhabulos comments, Rwandas Minister of Foreign Affairs Dr. Charles Murigande again refused to confirm whether Colonel Muzoora is in Kigali but welcomed the idea of talks with Uganda.We are ready to have talks with our Ugandan brothers not only about Muzoora but other issues as well, he said.A retired UPDF officer Lt. Dan Mugarura who was charged with treason on January 21 told reporters in court in Kampala that security personnel had asked him about his links with Col. Muzoora among other officers.Government has accused Lt. Mugarura of having links with Col. Samson Mande and Lt. Col. Anthony Kyakabale who are allegedl! y traini ng a dissident group, the Peoples Redemption Army, to fight the Uganda government in a neighbouring country.In July 2001 Colonel Mande and Lieutenant Colonel Kyakabale fled the country. The former UPDF Director of Records Major Sabiiti Mutengesa also escaped to the UK last year.The Chief of Military Intelligence Colonel Noble Mayombo, while speaking on Monitor FMs Andrew Mwenda Live talk show last July, read out a list of about 20 junior officers who had allegedly defected to Rwanda.February 15, 2003 11:46:22Return to index Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day
ugnet_: Re: [Ugandacom] Museveni Convenes Cabinet to Discuss DRC Inquiry Report
In a message dated 2/16/2003 7:06:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matek The English language has a word that I want to introduce to you today "Doctored" Em EM: get me that report ASAP!.. that is if you can..Museveni could be in a trap!!! Matek
ugnet_: Re: Museveni Convenes Cabinet to Discuss DRC Inquiry Report
In a message dated 2/16/2003 6:53:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The panel had named Museveni, his brother, Salim Saleh, and several senior army officers as being involved in the exploitation of DRC's natural resources. It also implicated Rwanda, among others. Museveni rejected the panel's findings, but subsequently appointed the Porter commission to investigate the allegations made by the UN panel. Fellow Citizens: We can only wonder as to what Justice Porter come up with? What, if anything, will the Museveni military dictatorship do to reprimand those involved in the looting of DRC's natural resources? Can Museveni reprimand himself? .After all he is one of the thieves? The crimes Yoweri Museveni and his fellow BANDITS in the movement have committed in DRC Congo, is but a criminal offense. Museveni should and must be impeached for this offense. (That is if we had a functioning parliament). Only when this is done, then and only then will there be some sense of JUSTICE for the people of DRC Congo Members of the United Nations security council should hold MUseveni and his GOONS accountable. nothing short. Matek
ugnet_: Museveni Convenes Cabinet to Discuss DRC Inquiry Report
Matek The English language has a word that I want to introduce to you today "Doctored" Em The Mulindwas communication group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:00 AM Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Convenes Cabinet to Discuss DRC Inquiry Report In a message dated 2/16/2003 6:53:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 211-page report, compiled by a commission of inquiry headed by Justice David Christopher Porter, was submitted to the minister of state for international affairs, Tom Butime, on 31 January. It details the Ugandan army's role in the controversial plunder of the DRC's wealth by foreign armies.HOW COME IT HAS TAKEN THE NRM MILITARY DICTATORSHIP OVER TWO WEEKS TO RELEASE THE SAID REPORT?MATEK Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
ugnet_: Re: Museveni Convenes Cabinet to Discuss DRC Inquiry Report
In a message dated 2/16/2003 6:53:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 211-page report, compiled by a commission of inquiry headed by Justice David Christopher Porter, was submitted to the minister of state for international affairs, Tom Butime, on 31 January. It details the Ugandan army's role in the controversial plunder of the DRC's wealth by foreign armies. HOW COME IT HAS TAKEN THE NRM MILITARY DICTATORSHIP OVER TWO WEEKS TO RELEASE THE SAID REPORT? MATEK
ugnet_: Cabinet Meets On Congo Report
Cabinet Meets On Congo Report New Vision (Kampala) February 14, 2003 Posted to the web February 14, 2003 Richard Mutumba Kampala PRESIDENT Yoweri Museveni has summoned a special cabinet meeting in Kampala today to discuss Justice David Porter's report on allegations that Ugandan army officers were involved in looting natural resources in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC). "This is a serious report and cabinet must discuss it before the minister responsible acts on it accordingly. The President who summoned cabinet will chair the discussions," a source close to Cabinet said yesterday. Justice Porter handed over the 211-page report of his findings on the controversial plunder of Congo's wealth by foreign armies, to the State Minister for International Affairs, Maj. Tom Butime, on January 31. "The President has summoned the cabinet so that it can take a collective decision before the report is published a few hours later. It will be published within 48 hours after the special cabinet meeting," the source said. "This is not an ordinary or private report on which the minister can act individually. This is a very serious document, a report to the Republic of Uganda. That is why the President is interested. This is why he will steer the proceedings and be part of the decision to be taken thereafter," the source said. Butime earlier promised to make the report public as soon as possible. "We owe that to the public. We promise to be transparent about this thing. President Museveni is eagerly waiting for this report and will take action. I promise Ugandans that we shall not shelve it because the UN is also eagerly waiting for it," he said. The UN Security Council gave those named in the plunder up to March 31 to submit their defences.
ugnet_: Museveni Convenes Cabinet to Discuss DRC Inquiry Report
Museveni Convenes Cabinet to Discuss DRC Inquiry Report UN Integrated Regional Information Networks February 14, 2003 Posted to the web February 14, 2003 Nairobi Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni convened a special cabinet meeting on Friday in the capital, Kampala, to discuss a report on allegations that Ugandan army officers were involved in looting natural resources in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), according to The New Vision government-owned newspaper. "This is a serious report, and cabinet must discuss it before the minister responsible acts on it accordingly. The president, who summoned cabinet, will chair the discussions," the newspaper quoted a source close to the cabinet as saying. The 211-page report, compiled by a commission of inquiry headed by Justice David Christopher Porter, was submitted to the minister of state for international affairs, Tom Butime, on 31 January. It details the Ugandan army's role in the controversial plunder of the DRC's wealth by foreign armies. "The president has summoned the cabinet so that it can take a collective decision before the report is published a few hours later. It will be published within 48 hours after the special cabinet meeting," the source told the newspaper. In November 2002, the UN Panel of Experts on the Illegal Exploitation of Natural Resources and Other Forms of Wealth in the DRC submitted a report to the UN Security Council accusing Uganda and Rwanda, among other countries, of exploiting the DRC's natural resources. The Council gave those named in the plunder up to 31 March to submit their defences. The five-member panel, which was established in September 2000, recommended a moratorium on imports of gold, diamonds, copper, cobalt, timber, coffee and other valuable commodities from rebel-held areas of the DRC. After submitting its findings to the Security Council on 12 April 2001, the panel was given three more months to complete outstanding work and to respond to observations and complaints raised by governments, individuals and companies implicated in the exploitation of the DRC's wealth. The panel had named Museveni, his brother, Salim Saleh, and several senior army officers as being involved in the exploitation of DRC's natural resources. It also implicated Rwanda, among others. Museveni rejected the panel's findings, but subsequently appointed the Porter commission to investigate the allegations made by the UN panel.
ugnet_: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE WAR ON TERRORISM?
February 6, 2003 Notice what Colin Powell didnt say. Addressing the United Nations Security Council, the meticulous secretary of state the Bush administrations most credible spokesman didnt say that Saddam Hussein had anything whatever to do with the events of 9/11. That was supposed to be the whole point of the war on terrorism: to avenge and punish the destruction of the World Trade Center and part of the Pentagon, and to prevent a recurrence of that horror. Its hard to see how war on Iraq will achieve either purpose. What do Iraqs hidden weapons of mass destruction, however terrible, have to do with a score of terrorists armed only with box-cutters? Nothing. Nor did Powell say that conquering Iraq would amount to a victory. Or that it would defeat or diminish terrorism. Or that Americans would be safer from terrorists if the United States launches war on Iraq. Have Americans already forgotten that the war on terrorism is supposed to be about terrorism? The rest of the world seems to remember. It wonders what the real purpose of this war is, when North Korea is both far more evil and far more menacing. Powell did allege nebulous links between Iraq and al-Qaeda, but he gave no evidence of any operational conspiracy in the events of 9/11. He didnt even try. He knew better. Instead he offered horrifying descriptions of the weapons in question particularly chemical weapons and made a plausible-sounding case that Iraq has them and has deceived the UN inspectors. But his claims were so technical that few of us can assess them, and we had to take his word even for what the satellite photos showed. In short, there was no smoking gun or, more to the point, smoking box-cutter. All this had nothing to do with 9/11. Powell, like the rest of the administration for the last year or so, was talking about an entirely different subject and hoping we wouldnt notice. Al-Qaedas modus operandi is totally different from Husseins. If he had wanted (and been invited) to help it stage the 9/11 attacks, he could have supplied the 20 terrorists with flight training, lodgings, money, and chemical weapons. They obviously didnt rely on him at all. If they even asked him for support, they may well have been refused. But more likely they are entirely separate from him. In his eyes they would be fanatics and loose cannons. He likes to be in control, and its hard to imagine him sharing his precious weapons with them to do what they please with them. For their part, they saw him as one of the many traitors to Islam who rule the Arab world. So why does the Bush administration want this war so badly? Whats it all about? Oil? Israel? There are plenty of rabid Zionists in the administration, and they do want war with Iraq (for starters), but they arent in command. The oil men are. Not that they need access to Middle Eastern oil; the free market could take care of that well enough. But whoever controls the Arab world controls everyones access to oil. If the United States conquers Iraq, then Iran, it will gain enormous leverage over the whole industrialized world including a little country that has been largely ignored during the recent discussions: China. No wonder China has been resisting the American war plans. Not too long ago, the United States had virtual control of the region through compliant rulers in Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait. But Iran overthrew the shah, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are also vulnerable to Islamic revolution, and Iraq acquired its own ambitions. So if the United States wants global hegemony, it must step in and take the reins in its own hands. The purpose of the 1991 Gulf War was to restore the status quo when Iraq seized Kuwait. Gulf War II has no such pretext. The American people arent in the mood for yet another war. So the trick was to convert the shock of 9/11 into war fever, then to redirect it at Iraq by linking Saddam Hussein to terrorism. This required some slippery semantics and a lot of propaganda which is mostly sheer repetition of nonsense until resistance is worn down, and logic surrenders. Thats about where we are now. Osama bin Laden may have started one war, but Saddam Hussein is about to lose the other one it has morphed into. Joseph Sobran The Mulindwas communication group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Re: ugnet_: Fw:Buganda's report to the constitutional review commission
Vukoni, This is a blatant lie. They have ,for obvious reasons, left out the pact the Mengo group headed by Mutebi , made with the NRA in the Luwero bushes. That pact lead to the killing of so many innocent non "Banaa Ba kintu" in Luwero, their properties seized and lives of their siblings shattered! If they ever come clean on the Luwero tragedy then Ugandans may come to learn to trust them. Rgds Gook We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of bad people but also for the appalling silence of good people". M.L.King Original Message Follows From: "Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: ugnet_: Fw:Buganda's report to the constitutional review commission Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:16:30 -0600 PREAMBLE: For centuries, Buganda was a warrior kingdom, which believed in conquest and settling disputes with neighbors with force of arms and conquest. Internally, reigning kings (Kabakas) were often removed and replaced by force of arms. At the close of the 19th Century however, the then reigning monarch, Ssekabaka Mukaabya realised that the best way to govern his people and to live with all Buganda's neighbours, was through negotiation, discussion and peaceful resolution of disagreements. In a very dramatic and very public action, he formally changed his name from Kabaka Mukaabya (which literally means a king who bends people to his will through tears and strife) to Kabaka Mutesa, which means resolving all disputes through peaceful discussions and negotiations. By that act and implied edict, he directed the people of Buganda to always solve their problems (internally and externally) through peaceful discussion. Ever since that edict, Buganda started believing in peaceful resolution of problems through negotiations and signed agreements. Thus since the beginning of the following century, (that is from 1900 up to today) Buganda has never taken up arms internally to remove its leaders or externally against its neighbours. Ssekabaka Mutesa's grandson, Ssekabaka Daudi Chwa II, re-emphasised this position by stating in his formal written Will that he had deliberately given the name of Mutesa to his son and successor (the father of the current Kabaka) so that Kabaka Mutesa II and his successors should always resolve all Buganda problems peacefully and legally through negotiation and discussion. In fact, in that Will, Ssekabaka Mutesa II actually instructed and directed his successor to do so. ! Last month, in December 2002, Kabaka Mutebi II, while addressing the Buganda Constitutional Commission and the people of Buganda at Banda Palace, restated his great great grandfather's position as well as that of his grandfather by urging the people of Buganda to pursue the many disagreements and disappointments they had with the 1995 Constitution (which disagreements and disappointments he was aware of) through peaceful negotiations and dialogue. He fully supported this Report and the method of presentation of Buganda's views through this constitutional process. The Odoki Constitutional Review Report clearly stated that 97% of the people in Buganda desired to be ruled under a federal system of government (also 68% of all Ugandans expressed that desire). Although this clear and overwhelming will of the people of Buganda and Uganda was not included in the 1995 Constitution, the People of Buganda, being mindful of their kings' edicts, patiently continued to request for a peaceful reconsideration of this position. They now once again renew, through this document, their position that a federal system of government is the only system of governance that will accelerate Uganda's development, minimise internal strife that has bedeviled Uganda since the abolition of this system in 1966, and provide Uganda and her people with durable internal peace. Many people outside Buganda pour scorn on discussion and negotiation as a fruitful method of achieving their people's or community desires and goals. Consequently, they have persistently taken up arms against the state and the peoples of Uganda. The people of Buganda are appealing to all those people to lay down their arms and strive to achieve their goals through peaceful discussion and negotiations as the people of Buganda are doing today. The people of Buganda also appeal to the Government of Uganda and our leaders to prove to those skeptics and doubting people that the will of the p! eople an d desires of communities can be achieved and addressed through peaceful discussions. We should not give them the feeling that peaceful negotiations and discussions can never bring about change or achievements of any given community's desires and will, however clearly those desires and will are manifested. In spite of past repeated disappointments and frustrations, the people of Buganda are still confident that they will achieve their desires through peaceful methods. Bug
