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Toronto "The massive system"testing !!

Em



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anarchy" 
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RE: ugnet_: Ibingira on Obote's Secret Wars and Abuse of Office

2003-08-16 Thread The Fugee









Ssemakula,



Many of us have decided to leave you to
your rabid hatred of Obote. You seem to be so confused by your hatred that you
would absolve everyone, including yourself, of any responsibility in ensuring
that Ugandans and Uganda gets what it
truly deserves. As such I find it very difficult to even begin to discuss or
debate any matter as you have concluded where all blame should lie. Though I
must confess that I have seriously thought about tackling an issue raised by
you through Ibingiras writings and time willing I may still do so.



The real question is: What have you done
and what are you doing for a truly democratic Uganda where all
citizens have and can enjoy their God given personal to holder fundamental
human rights and freedoms?



The Fugee



PS Why
did he try to have Mandela and the ANC -- which he termed a tribal
organization -- banned from attending the OAU's
precursor meeting in Addis Ababa? Who were/are Obote's masters whose
interests he worked so hard to uphold?

 Where did this come from?




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 2003 21:25
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Subject: Re: ugnet_: Ibingira on
Obote's Secret Wars and Abuse of Office







Is it safe to assume that even the UPC zealots have
finally seen the light that power-hungry megalomaniacal Obote was and is a
liability?

Is there any doubt that Obote single-handedly set Uganda
on the course of decay that it has never recovered from?

Where the heck is Mr. Dambisya's promised
(threatened?) defense of Obote?



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ugnet_: OUR CONDOLENCE






Netters

On behalf of the communication group, I 
want to personally register my condolence to the passing of the Ugandan 
President, Iddi Amin Dada. Although this president had many failures but Iddi 
Amin made several break through's in Uganda and Africa, that had future leaders 
built on them, Uganda and Africa would have been a very different place 
today.

For God and our 
Country

Em

 
The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
anarchy" 
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Re: ugnet_: Ibingira on Obote's Secret Wars and Abuse ofOffice

2003-08-16 Thread YOSWA DAMBISYA

Omw.Ssemakula, ask:

Where the heck is Mr. Dambisya's promised (threatened?) defense of
Obote?

A question I thought I answered unequivocally.Let me repeat:  If all
the accusations you threatened to post were based on one Ibingira's
take on Obote and Obote's purpoted motives/plans etc,and on Ibingira
alone, I would accept that you win hands down. However, if you were
willing to bring in issues from elsewhere (as in other sources),and were
willing to give a hearing to views from others, then we have something
to talk about.

As matters stand, what do you want from me? Do you want me to dispute
the fact that Ibingira wrote what he wrote? Do you want me to dispute
the fact that Ibingira hated Obote? You had the cyber-equivalent of a
cow when, as a test, I posted a portrayal of the events different from
that of your Saint Grace SI (related to the post-1964 events). So the
kind of engagement you want is one where I should come in and marvel at
what Ibingira said of Obote and we move on! Do you really see me doing
that? 

Diversify your attack if you are really interested in some mental
combat on those aspects of our history. Then I shall find it
intellectually stimulating to engage in the defense you assigned me. I
do not run away from a challange, but let it be a challenge worthy of
the name.

Best regards,

Yoswa.




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Re: ugnet_: OUR CONDOLENCE

2003-08-16 Thread Charles

Bullshit!!

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  Netters

  On behalf of the communication group, I 
  want to personally register my condolence to the passing of the Ugandan 
  President, Iddi Amin Dada. Although this president had many failures but Iddi 
  Amin made several break through's in Uganda and Africa, that had future 
  leaders built on them, Uganda and Africa would have been a very different 
  place today.

  For God and our 
  Country

  Em

  The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
  anarchy" 
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  dans l'anarchie"

ugnet_: When Sexism aids and abets disaster

Where sexism aids and abets disaster
By Lisa W. Karanja
Comment Friday, August 15, 2003
http://www.nationaudio.com/News/DailyNation/Today/Comment/Comment150820035.html
Hadija N., a 29-year-old Ugandan woman, tested HIV-positive in 1994. For years, her husband routinely forced her to have unprotected sex with him and beat her viciously. On one occasion, he attacked her so violently that he bit off half of her left ear. While he himself lay dying of Aids and too weak to beat her, he ordered his younger brother to beat her instead.
Hadija is not alone. Many African women are infected and dying because their husbands rape and subject them to other forms of physical abuse and intimidation so that they cannot protect themselves.
Threats of domestic violence also reduce women's access to HIV/Aids services and information that could save their lives. Meanwhile, their governments are doing little or nothing to protect them.
While many people are aware of the Aids ravages, few understand the disproportionate effect it continues to have on African women. Of black Africas 29.4 million HIV-positive people, more than 58 per cent are reported to be women.
In 2002, the United Nations estimated that, along with the Middle East, black Africa was one of only two regions where women and girls formed the majority of infected cases.
In Uganda, HIV prevalence among women aged 20-24 was about 15 per cent in 2001, compared with only 5 per cent for men of the same age. Kenyan girls aged 15-19 are anywhere from three to six times as likely to be infected with HIV than their male counterparts.
In Tanzania, UN studies indicate that 750,000 women were living with Aids in 2002 against 550,000 men. In Ethiopia the ratio was 1.1 million to 800,000.
The difference in HIV infection rates among African men and women is not a biological curiosity it is a human rights tragedy. Violence, or the threat of violence, deprives women of their ability to control their bodies or to negotiate safer sex.
A fear of violence prevents women from obtaining Aids information, from testing for HIV infection and from receiving treatment and counselling. Unequal property rights upon separation or divorce discourage women from leaving violent marriages.
HIV-positive victims of "property grabbing" lose assets that are essential for medical care and for the shelter required to endure this debilitating disease.
The fact that this occurs in Uganda, widely considered a "success story" in the fight against Aids, has grim implications for Africa's women.
Countries seeking to combat Aids must acknowledge the prevalence of domestic violence throughout Africa. According to UN statistics, 41 per cent of Ugandan women suffered domestic violence in 2000.
Fida-Kenyas 2001 report details domestic violence as the most common human-rights violation in Kenya, while 60 per cent of married women reported in a 2002 study that they were victims of domestic abuse.
A 2001 study in Dar es Salaam on HIV and partner violence found that HIV-positive women were about three times more likely than HIV-negative women to have experienced a violent attack by a partner.
While domestic violence is not uniquely an "African" problem, the ways in which states fail to protect women from domestic violence, and, ultimately, HIV transmission recur regionally.
Domestic violence is a complex social problem that cannot be solved by legal reform alone. However, laws proscribing gender discrimination are an essential first step. Governments must enact legislation that makes domestic violence a serious crime and addresses issues of enforcement and compensation.
In a continent devastated by Aids, any strategy to combat the pandemic will be compromised if African governments continue to ignore the threat of violence against women.
Hadija is mother of two, a 10-year-old boy and a girl, 13. Her children will be orphaned when she finally succumbs to Aids. Ugandas leadership in the fight against Aids has saved many lives, but it has failed Hadija and countless others.
Greater attention to women's human rights is needed from all governments if we are going to save Africa's women and children from the plague.
Lisa W. Karanja is the Orville Schell Fellow with the Womens Rights Division at Human Rights Watch, New York.

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ugnet_: AMIN IS DR. KIGONGO'S HERO




Mwaami Kibuuka kindly forward this posting to 
fednet.

Ugandans

Now that president Amin has passed, I want 
to set some records straight. During my monitoring of Fednet, I would not 
believe what Dr. Kigongo posted about our passed President, for he basically 
called him an idiot who must never see any mercy from Ugandans and who should be 
buried in Saudi Arabia. Those were very disturbing comments from a Ugandan to a 
Ugandan former leader. So we decided to take time to look on the history of this 
politically correct and patriotic Ugandan Doctor based in The United States. And 
if I go wrong any where Dr. Kigongo you have not only the forum but a right as 
well to set the records straight. But this is what we now 
know.

Dr. Kigongo, during the seventies you went 
to Budo for your High School and later ended up in Makerere University. But 
during all those years we have failed to find any receipt or any record of your 
self or your parents/ guardians paying school fees. Dr. Kigongo's school fees 
were paid by Uganda government which was lead by Iddi Amin to the last cent. Dr. 
Kigongo, Iddi Amin did not only pay your school fees but he even went a step 
further and he paid you an allowance called BOOM and you ate it again to the 
last cent. The question I have for you today, Have you ever paid a nickel to 
Uganda as a state?

For the record, Iddi Amin was an illiterate 
man, but he as well believed in educating Ugandans so that we as Ugandans can 
get a better future through the brains we build. And that belief is what built 
you to where you are today, it is Amin's strong belief that you as Kigongo can 
put butter on the bread on your table, how dare you call him an 
idiot?

Today Uganda has a leadership by a man who 
has an education, Museveni is not an illiterate, but Kigongo do you know how 
much it costs today to run a kid through High School and University of 
Museveni's Uganda? How did the idiot manage to take you to school and Museveni 
can not? Think about those questions before tarnish a man's name. And I am not 
here to fight Amin's wars which are by the way many, but let us not be un 
appreciative of the good he did as well. Today Kigongo is a Doctor and that is 
one of the very many good things Amin did for Uganda. Amin an illiterate 
produced a Doctor for Uganda, the question is how many Doctors has Kigongo 
produced for Uganda today? For it is the only way we will know who is an idiot 
between Amin and Kigongo.

The struggle 
continues.

Em
In the now powered up 
Toronto.

 
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ugnet_: MPS on Amin's burial and burial place

MPs want Amin buried in Arua By Emma Mutaizibwa August 17, 2003

MPs expressed mixed feelings about the death of former President Idi Amin Dada yesterday.
"It is sad for any Ugandan irrespective of what he or she has done to pass away. I urge government to grant Amin's corpse a state burial in his country," said Ms Betty Amongi (Woman Apac).
"We should learn from the past that we should always respect the Constitution. If President Yoweri Museveni manipulates the Constitution to seek a third term, anarchy will once again prevail," she said.
Capt. Steven Basaliza (Burahya) said Amin should be granted a decent burial at his ancestral home.
"He should be forgiven of his heinous acts and be buried decently," Basaliza said.
Mr Aggrey Awori (Samia Bugwe North) said Amin should not be granted a state burial but a decent burial at his ancestral home.
"I send my condolences to his family," Awori said.
Ms Miria Matembe (Woman Mbarara) said Amin was used by the devil but should be forgiven.
Matembe however scoffed at the idea of returning Amin's corpse for a state burial.
"As a politician, there is no way Amin can be a hero in this country. If he did not repent his sins, he will be a hero in the devil's kingdom. We cannot grant him a state burial, unless Ugandans are insane," she said.
Mr Emmanuel Dombo (Bunyole) said: "If you don't accept his corpse to return, then you will be punishing his relatives."
Mr Kassiano Wadri (Terego) said people in Arua feel that Amin should be granted a state burial.
"The successive regimes have killed people as well. At the end of the day, history will judge them. Amin was a leader who contributed to the development of this country," Wadri said.
He said the mood among people in Arua is sober and sorrowful.

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ugnet_: POLITICS of OPPORTUNISM

Loose tongues thatthreaten to wreck NarcBy PHILIP OCHIENG'
Though I will continue the campaign, I don't hope I will one day see the government of my ideal. For even the most "democratic" of our world's ruling parties remains agonisingly specious and shallow-minded about freedom.
That's why I have no illusion about Narc - a pallid imitation of liberal insidiousness. Why, then, did I support it in the polls? No, I didn't. I only campaigned against Kanu. If that amounted to support for Narc, my attitude was that nothing could be worse than Nyayo. Kanu had already choked our social pores and left us moribund.
A Narc government thus could only, and I knew not what way, breathe some life into the body politic. And few will deny that the Kibaki Government has done that so. We are breathing a lot more easily. At least what critics say provokes responses from Government officials, something we never expected from the Nyayo pachyderms. The responses are more reactive than active, to be sure, but that, too, is typical of liberalism.
What is peculiar to the upstarts among such parties is only their discordance, members of the same Cabinet speaking completely at cross purposes. Indeed, that is the miracle. Narc remains intact nearly a year after it achieved the only goal that had created it. For it was hastily wangled before the elections with no other common denominator than to defeat Kanu.
The signatories were all tribal bosses with personal ambitions for State House that were more "vaulting" than Macbeth's. That's why cynics expected that, after Narc routed Kanu, a much bigger fire would flare than the sparks raised by the anarchic utterances of Karisa Maitha, Mukhisa Kituyi, John Michuki, Raila Odinga, Joseph Kamotho, George Saitoti, Kalonzo Musyoka, Otieno Kajwang, Kipruto arap Kirwa, Koigi wa Wamwere and a tomboy called Charity Ngilu.
The tornado would rip many more homes than the ripples occasioned by the wild tongues of Johnny-come-latelies like Danson Mungatana, Robinson Githae, Jakoyo Midiwo, Chris Murungaru, Beth Mugo, Raphael Tuju, Mirugi Kariuki, Joe Khamisi and Amos Kimunya. Yet I quite understand their attitude. They entered Narc with the support of definite constituencies whose purpose was to take from the coalition much more than they planned to give it.
Narc and Mr Kibaki were only a bridge through which they hoped to push their respective tribal chiefs to State House. I have never seen the memorandum of understanding which one of these Narc constituents claims guaranteed their leader such a position near the sanctum sanctorum.
But it is difficult to believe such an MOU existed. For it would be singularly myopic for anybody with his own ambition to promise a deadly rival a powerful position like the premier's in a coalition so fragile. And it would be singularly naive for the latter to take such a promise seriously. That's the reason I would also fully understand why, having tasted power, whoever made such a promise should now want to deny it.
The victim will, of course, immediately accuse him of dishonesty and self-interest. But he won't impress me. For I know that he himself is in the game for purely dishonest self-interests. I do not expect much from our politicians. But, being a Kenyan, I cannot just sit by to watch them threaten this country with anarchy. I am interested, too, that they should play these games in a manner that does not add insult to the injuries they have already inflicted on us over the years.
When Kiraitu Murungi, a member of the central power clique, threatens his rivals with expulsion - where he is no Francis of Assisi - he invokes Kariuki Chotara, Moses Mudavadi, Okiki Amayo, Shariff Nassir, James Njiru and the intellectual fog that illumined the Ministry of National Guidance.
An insider with Narc's real interests at heart will studiously avoid such divisive chest-thumping heroics. He will know that his own self-interest can be achieved only through a united Narc. Moody Awori, Njeru Ndwiga, Peter Anyang'-Nyongo, Linah Kilimo, Ochilo Ayacko, Martha Karua and Michael Wamalwa seem to know that such a Narc is possible only when leaders weigh their words.
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ugnet_: QUOTES OF A TYRANT(May His Soul Rest in Peace!)

Quotes of a TyrantProbably the most famous quote by Idi Amin Dada was in 1976 at the time his government had killed nearly a half-a-million Ugandans.
Commenting on the mass murders, the despot said casually:
"In any country there must be people who have to die. They are the sacrifices any nation has to make to achieve law and order.''Some famous quotes attributed to the dictator from the Internet :
When asked to describe himself, he said:
"I myself consider myself the most powerful figure in the world."

On what he preferred being called:
"His Excellency President for Life Field Marshal Al Hadji Dr. Idi Amin, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular."

On what he thinks others said about him:
"People often mistake what I say for what I am thinking."

On what he did to his perceived political enemies:
"I ate them before they ate me."

In an interview with a journalist:
"I have also eaten human meat. It is very salty. Even more salty then leopard meat.''

When asked by Queen Elizabeth what else he would be doing in London:
"Buying size 13 shoes, very hard to get in Uganda."

On whether he missed Uganda:
"I miss Ugandan food. I miss my many friends. When I was president I used to go out in the evening with my friends, former boxing partners or the lads from the national football team. I loved to go dancing like an ordinary person. I'm first and foremost a boxing champion, as you know."

Some of his memorable speeches include one after a luncheon hosted by the Queen in London in his honour, Idi Amin had this to say for his vote of thanks.
"Mr Queen, Sir, Horrible Ministers, invented guests, ladies under gentlemen. I thank the Queen very plenty for what he has done to me. I tell you, I have eaten so much that I am now fed up with malicious meal.
Before I continue, I would kindly ask you to open the windows so that the climate may get in plenty. But before I go back I must invert Mr Queen to my country and I can assure you, Mr Queen that when you come, I shall revenge to you. You will eat a full cow and I will work very difficult to make sure that you will come back with a very full stomach.
For now I am sorry that I have just made a short call on you. The next time I will make a long one possible for a full moon. Thank you for letting me undress you in front of all the disgusting people."

And from quotes in The Guardian July 24, 2003, also found on the Internet:
On liberty:
"In communist countries you do not feel free to talk, there is one spy for every three people. Not here. No one is afraid here. It's like Uganda girls. I tell them to be proud, not shy. It's no good taking a girl to bed if she is shy. Do you get my point?''

To Nixon after cuts in US aid to Uganda:
"My dear brother, it is quite true that you have enough problems on your plate, and it is surprising you have the zeal to add fresh ones. At this moment you are uncomfortably sandwiched in that uncomfortable affair (Watergate), I ask almighty God to solve your problems. We Ugandans hope that the great United States of America does not continue to use its enormous resources, especially its military might, to destroy human life on earth.''

On gender and productivity:
"Women should not sleep while men are working. Even prostitutes can do some work, reporting subversives.''Comments\Views about this article

ugnet_: ARE MEMOS of UNDERSTANDING ENFORCEABLE IN LAW?

Was the NAK-LDP pact a political mirage?By MUTAHI NGUNYI
As the country goes to the Bomas II talks tomorrow, we need to unpackage the politics behind LDP and NAK. But before we do so, I want to dedicate a story to Mr Raila Odinga as he braces himself for war in the coming months. Once upon a time, a brave mercenary soldier saved the town of Siena from a foreign invader. Thrilled by his bravery, the citizens of this town wanted to reward him handsomely.
No amount of money or honour could compensate his selfless actions. The citizens thought of making him Lord of the City, but even that, they decided, was not good enough. At last, one citizen stood before the peoples assembly and suggested to the citizens of Siena " . . . let us kill him and then worship him as our patron saint." And so they did.
The mercenary soldier was not killed because the citizens of Siena were ungrateful. The reason was simple: nothing was lost by killing him. Although a hero, he was replaceable. And this is a fundamental lesson for Mr Odinga. He had his heroic moment in December last year. Like the patron saint of Siena, Mr Odinga is now before us ready for his reward.
We could make him Prime Minister or we could make him the patron saint of Kenya. But all this depends on his leverage and whether or not he is indispensable. If he is replaceable, we could behave like the citizens of Siena. We might just decide to honour him with the title Saint Odinga of Kenya for his role in the second liberation. And with this honour, we could order a saintly halo to be placed on his head permanently. In other words, he could lose all the political mileage covered so far in exchange for admiration and worship. But in the alternative, he could make significant gains depending on how he plays his game.
For starters, the argument on the MoU is a tired one. In fact, LDP should abandon this argument altogether because it makes them look like spineless losers. I say so because you never enter into covenants if you cannot enforce them. In politics, there is nothing like a gentlemans agreement. MoUs are made to be broken and those who expect them to be honoured are naive.
This is so because the cardinal rule in politics is simple: there are no rules. That is why Thomas Hobbes submitted in the 17th Century that "covenants without swords are but mere words." This philosopher was not talking about political violence. He was talking about political leverage. In other words, when you covenant with someone, you must have enough muscle to force them to honour their side of the bargain. And if you do not, it is your loss!
Having said that, we should not dismiss LDPs arguments on the MoU altogether. Let us look at two contentious issues here. One, LDP and NAK agreed to have a 50:50 power sharing formula should they win the election. On this element of engagement, NAK did not deliver. And because of this, LDP has every right to complain until thine Kingdom come. But while they are at it, we must ask a fundamental question here: by how much were they cheated? Yes, NAK had agreed to a 50:50 formula, but they shared the cabinet positions at a ratio of 60:40 instead. In other words, NAK delivered 80 per cent positions to LDP; LDP therefore lost marginally by 20 per cent. Statistically speaking, out of every 5 cabinet positions due to LDP, they got 4. And the question we must ask here is: if politicians are by nature dishonest, how must we judge the Narc government? Is delivering 4 out of 5 promised positions a good score or is it a bad one?
Let us examine the second issue. LDP submitted a list of politicians to be appointed into the cabinet. This list had many people, but the most notable included Mr J.J Kamotho, Mr William Ole Ntimama and Mr Odingas own brother Dr Oburu Odinga. Some names were left out. And at face value, this was definitely wrong. In fact, it was tantamount to bullying.
Consider the following with me. The LDP list comprised of powerful brokers who had sorted out their boss in Kanu. Now they wanted half of Narc cabinet in exchange for support.
A lot of water has gone down the bridge in eight months. LDP and Kanu have renewed their co-operation ready to do battle with NAK at Bomas II. If half the cabinet was made up of the Moi cronies proposed in the LDP list, NAK would be frying in its own fat today. We must ask a question at this point the way a winning American would: was the president right, or was he right?
Let us now examine the cabinet deal that was brokered by a team of 11 ministers this week. Without wanting to sound like an anarchist, there was nothing clever about this deal. These good people did not tell us anything new at all. Whatever they recommended could have been proposed by any ordinary Kenyan.
In fact, if they have been listening to the FM stations, their proposal has featured almost every day since April. And in my view this is good. It means that we are one with the Narc government. But it could

ugnet_: HOMOSEXUALITY: A Gift from GOD!.Is it?.

Sunday August 17, 2003

LIFESTYLE MAGAZINE HOME

Christianity at a crossroads overissue of homosexuality
By Fr JOE BABENDREIR
The Anglican debate over the episcopal consecration of a practising homosexual in the United States has stunned African Christians, regardless of what church they go to. When pressed to explain why, they say it should be obvious: "We do not dispute such issues. The Bible condemns it. End of story."
But is that really the end of the story?
If the Rev Gene Robinson (the cleric in the headlines) told his congregation 50 years ago that he was gay, he would have been sacked on the spot.
Today, a majority of his peers want to make him bishop. These American church leaders read the same Bible we do. If the Bible is all we have to fall back on, what will prevent Kenya from following the same road that led these Christians to the current dilemma?
Like all gays fond of attending church, the Rev Robinson uses the scriptures to defend his position. He is a charismatic preacher with a knack for addressing youth. He wouldn't get very far singing the praises of same-sex attraction here. But in Europe, Canada and the US, things have changed. Anyone opposing gay culture is labelled a homophobic bigot.
Politicians figure prominently in gay parades. Lesbian partners get artificially fertilised and become 'mothers' so they can have their own 'family'. Some gay 'couples' have managed to adopt a child. Students in public schools get sex education classes where they learn to view homosexual acts as a normal option depending on personal preference. The latest trend is to hold gay weddings in church and some pastors are ready to oblige.
For all the furore over letting the Rev Robinson become a bishop, a good number of those in his community will continue to consider him a caring, competent priest, whether he gets promoted or not. What is he good at? Among other things, he has perfected the art of interpreting the Bible contrary to tradition. A local decision to break off relations with Anglican brethren abroad (and losing funds from the rich dioceses in the US) is the tip of the iceberg. Lurking beneath is a far more troubling issue. Kenya's Anglican leader, Archbishop Benjamin Nzimbi, stated that the money doesn't matter. It's biblical teaching that counts.
The Rev Robinson is forcing the issue. He says Jesus is 'daring' him to be the homosexual 'God created him to be'. Regardless of how men get to be gay, does God ever bless sodomy? A significant number of Christians are saying yes, claiming to have scriptural evidence for it. What makes their interpretation of God's revelation wrong and Archbishop Nzimbi's right? What about other disagreements (polygamy, abortion, divorce) among the various Christian denominations? Why not let pluralism rule the Church? Wouldn't that end all the arguments?
Anglican bishops in Africa argue that some interpretations do damage. (Do you want a homosexual priest taking care of the youth group where your children go to church?) As clear as this may be, it doesn't get to the heart of the controversy. The battle over Rev. Robinson's consecration puts pressure on Christians everywhere to address the one prickly topic that generates the most heated arguments.
Everyone who studies this stumbles upon the Apostles' Creed, a text older than the New Testament that the first Christians used for prayer and worship. It states that the Church is 'catholic', which literally means universal. The early Christians thought it essential for everyone all over the world to believe the same thing, especially when it came to interpreting sacred scripture. As the Acts of the Apostles says, they "remained faithful to the teaching of the Apostles". They looked at themselves as a community of faith. Anyone who did not believe what everyone else believed was no longer a member of the Church.
This was clear in the beginning but it's a problem for today's Christians. When it comes time to decide what everyone is supposed to believe, who decides? Perhaps Jesus foresaw the difficulties his Church would face with the passing of time and, for this reason, the night before he died, prayed that his followers would be united.
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ugnet_: THE DEATH OF IDI AMIN DADA.








  
  
 
  
Sat Aug 16, 7:46 AM 
  ET
  
Former Ugandan leader Idi Amin seen in 
  this image taken last week in the intensive care unit of the King Faisal 
  Specialist Hospital in Jiddah, Saudi Arabia. Amin died Saturday, Aug. 16, 
  2003, at the King Faisal Specialist Hospital, a hospital official said. 
  Amin, who had lived for years in exile in Saudi Arabia, had been 
  hospitalized on life-support since July 18. He was in a coma suffering 
  from high blood presure. Late hospital staff said he suffered kidney 
  failure. (AP Photo) 



  
  
 
  
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The King Faisal hospital in Jiddah, 
  Saudi Arabia, is seen in this May, 2003, file photo. Former Ugandan leader 
  Idi Amin died at the King Faisal Hospital in Jiddah on Saturday, Aug. 16, 
  2003 a hospital official said. Amin, who had lived for years in exile in 
  Saudi Arabia, had been hospitalized on life-support since July 18. He was 
  in a coma suffering from high blood presure. (AP Photo) 
  


  
  
 
  
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Ugandan President Idi Amin arrives at 
  JFK International Airport in New York on Oct. 1, 1975, with his wife and 
  two sons to attend the United Nations General Assembly. Amin died 
  Saturday, Aug. 16, 2003, according to a hospital official in Saudi Arabia. 
  Amin was 80. (AP Photo/File)

ugnet_: IDDI AMIN BURRIED




The President of Uganda Iddi Amin has been buried 
in Jeda

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 The 
Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
anarchy" 
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans 
l'anarchie"

ugnet_: IDI AMIN AND HIS TIMES as seen by KENYA

'Dada' always rubbedKenya the wrong way
By SUNDAY NATION Team

A warm handshake for visiting President Amin from President Jomo Kenyatta as he arrives at Mombasa's Port Reitz Airport . Photo by Mohamed Amin - Camerapix
Idi Amin's rule in Uganda altered Kenya's history in a big way, much more than it did for other countries in the region, and the dictator had more historical links. Those links date back to Kenya's pre-independence days of Mau Mau war.
Born in 1925 in northern Uganda near the Sudan border, Amin was one of the first East African officers to serve under the British colonial army known as the Kings African Rifles. He served along with Jackson Mulinge, who would go on to become the Chief of General Staff of the Kenyan armed forces.
When British colonial campaign against the Mau Mau guerrillas erupted in the 1950s, Amin was assigned to hunt down the Mau Mau.
The recently published Encyclopaedia Africana says Amin's reputation as a ruthless man was established in the way he handled the Mau Mau guerillas.
He was so successful at killing many of these fighters that his British superiors assigned him other duties that required a man with no qualms about using brute force.
When the Mau Mau uprising erupted, Amin was deployed with the King's African Rifles to Murang'a District. By that time, he had been promoted to the rank of Corporal and in 1953 he fought the stubborn Mau Mau fighters in Tuso, Kairo, Kangema, and Kinyona.
With Amin as part of the action, the African Rifles murdered the Mau Mau General Gitau Matenjagwo and paraded his body for days around the village in Muranga.
He was later taken for Sergents training in Lanet in 1955. During these years, he gained a reputation as an insatiable womaniser. On one occasion in 1955 he was seen fleeing nude and panic-stricken down a street in the town of Nakuru to escape after being caught red-handed in bed with another mans wife.
His nickname, "Dada" was from Kenya. Every time he was caught with a woman in his tent, he pleaded that she was his "dada" (sister), in order to be let off the hook by his commanders.
By 1962 he was already a Lieutenant and was assigned to quell the cattle rustling between Ugandas Karamojong and Kenyas Pokot (Suk) nomads. Amins platoon devised an easy method: they shot many Pokot warriors and left them in the open for hyenas to feed on.
In order to disarm the Karamojong of their spears, he ordered captured men to line up at a table, each one with his penis lying on the table. He threatened to cut the mens organs off unless they revealed where they had hidden the spears.
On one occasion, Amin personally cut off the organs of eight screaming men, before the others could reveal the hiding places for their weapons.
In April 1962, Kenyas Commissioner of Police, Richard Catling and Ugandas last Colonial Governor, Sir Walter Coutts had asked the Prime Minister Milton Obote to prosecute Amin for his atrocities in Uganda and Kenya, but Obote hesitated.
Then in one prophetic warning, Sir Walter Coutts told Obote: "I warn you this officer will cause you trouble in future." That future came in January 25, 1971, when the 46 year-old Major-General Idi Amin seized power in a bloodless coup that he had been rehearsing for five days starting on January 19. The Kenya Government obviously had to deal with Amin's regime when he finally became president.
Uganda under Amin had embarked on a large military buildup. The buildup raised concern in Nairobi. Early in June 1975, Kenyan officials impounded a large convoy of Soviet-made arms en route to Uganda at Mombasa port.
The tension reached climax in 1976. It was February that President Amin suddenly announced that he would investigate the possibility that large parts of southern Sudan and western and central Kenya, up to within 32 km of Nairobi, were historically a part of colonial Uganda.
The Kenyan government response came two days later in a stern statement that said Kenya would not part with "a single inch of territory."
Amin finally backed down after the Kenyan army deployed troops and armoured personnel carriers in defensive positions along the Kenya-Uganda border.
In June, another incident further eroded Uganda-Kenya relations. On 5 March, a student at the Faculty of Law at Makerere University, Paul Serwanga, was shot dead by an army captain who had developed an interest in his girlfriend.
A Kenyan student at Makerere, Esther Chesire, was arrested at Entebbe airport by agents of the dreaded secret police, the State Research Bureau counter-intelligence agency just before she boarded a flight to Nairobi.
She was booked on the flight with her friend and fellow Kenyan Sally Githere. Chesire was never seen again.
The Kenyan government pressed the Ugandan officials to launch an inquiry into Chesires disappearance and possible death. The warden of a girls hall, Africa Hall at Makerere, Theresa Nanziri Bukenya, was arrested by security agents. She was eight

ugnet_: Uganda Government Names Afghanistan, Costa Rica And Suriname as enemies!!

Mayombo also named Afghanistan, Costa Rica and Suriname as countries that are considered to be enemies of Uganda.


Donors Supporting Rebels - Mayombo

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The Monitor (Kampala)August 16, 2003 
Posted to the web August 16, 2003 Halima Abdallah
Kampala The Chief of Military Intelligence, Col Noble Mayombo, told court yesterday that some donors support rebels but declined to name any saying it is classified information.

Mayombo also named Afghanistan, Costa Rica and Suriname as countries that are considered to be enemies of Uganda.

He was being cross-examined on his earlier testimony against three Monitor journalists at Buganda Road Chief Magistrate's Court in Kampala.Mr Charles Onyango-Obbo, Mr Wanyama Wangah and Mr Frank Nyakairu are on trial for allegedly publishing false information on October 10, 2002.The story stated that a UPDF helicopter crashed in fight over Adilang hill in Pader district in northern Uganda, about 340km from Kampala.They are also being accused of publishing information prejudicial to national security.The Monitor headquarters in Namuwongo, Kampala was closed for a week ( 10-16) following the publication. The three journalists were consequently charged with the crime on October 16.Mayombo told court that Lord Resistance Army rebels did not shot down the helicopter, but added that it's a terrorist organization that is well organized and co-ordinated.He admitted that the UPDF has not been able to protect all the people in northern Uganda, but denied that UPDF has failed to defeat LRA."Its not correct that UPDF has failed to defeat LRA, there is no war between UPDF and LRA, there is no war in northern Uganda, LRA is killing the people of Uganda," Mayombo told court.The Col. told court that LRA is an agent of a foreign aggressor, which he did name.

He admitted that The Monitor published the view of the army in the same story and that he did not know much about journalism.Mayombo also requested court not to compel him answer a question as to whether he had spies in the LRA, but said he learnt that the rebels rejoiced over the story.

He categorically stated to court that the Sudan government stopped supporting the rebels and said the killing of three UPDF soldiers at Paltaka in Southern Sudan recently was a mistaken bombing.Col. Mayombo admitted that some sections of the Sudan Military give support to LRA.

When asked when the UPDF will defeat LRA, he first said it was an unfair question but later said that as soon as enough money is made available.Mayombo will reappear in court for further cross-examination on September 17.

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"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the state." 

- Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels - Hitler's propaganda minister

ugnet_: Gulu Bishops Want UN Peacekeepers

Gulu Bishops Want UN Peacekeepers

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The Monitor (Kampala)August 16, 2003 
Posted to the web August 16, 2003 Frank Nyakairu

Kampala Religious leaders in northern Uganda have appealed for deployment of a United Nations peacekeeping force to expedite delivery of relief food to the displaced population.The request was made, Wednesday, during a visit to Gulu by Dr Francis Deng, the UN Secretary General's representative on Internally Displaced Persons. Archbishop John Baptist Odama read the statement to him.

"The opening of humanitarian corridors for the delivery of aid to the displaced population could be a good entry point," Odama said."These convoys could be escorted by an international peace-keeping force with a limited mandate," he added.

They would be a deterrent and serve as defence against possible attacks, said the Bishop.The leaders, through the umbrella Acholi Religious Leader's Peace Initiative, also proposed that part of the mandate of the force be establishment of safe, neutral zones where rebels could dialogue with local leaders and government."The lack of such space has been a constant stumbling block in making any significant progress as far as dialogue is concerned," the religious leaders said.

Dr. Deng also called for the involvement of a third party to help resolve the 17year conflict."Solving a conflict requires finding its root cause; addressing the root cause of a conflict we need peace and getting peace we require a third party," he said.Dr Deng was however quick to add that to help the displaced people, government should not antagonised. 

He also advised that nobody should claim victory - over the other.The religious leaders also proposed that Uganda be involved in the peace talks aimed at ending Sudan's civil war, since the two conflicts are intertwined. 

The Sudan peace talks are taking place in Kenya.Dr. Deng visited children sleeping in the open, both in Gulu town and at Lacor Mission Hospital, west of the town.He also witnessed distribution of food aid by the World Food Program (WFP) to a camp of internally displaced people.


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"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the state." 

- Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels - Hitler's propaganda minister

ugnet_: Burundi rebels threaten fresh attack on capital

Burundi rebels threaten fresh attack on capital

BUJUMBURA, Aug 16 (Reuters) - Burundian rebels threatened on Saturday to launch a fresh attack on the capital in 20 days time unless the police release dozens of their fellow ethnic Hutus arrested in the past few days.

The National Liberation Forces (FNL) rebel group, which launched one of the fiercest attacks on the city for years last month, accused police of harassing members of the ethnic Hutu majority living in the lakeside capital Bujumbura.

"Every day the police carry off people of Hutu ethnicity arguing that they do not possess identity cards. We are shocked to hear that they are jailed and tortured," FNL spokesman Pasteur Habimana told Reuters.

"This is serious, we are not joking," he said. "If nothing is done within 20 days, we will take action," he said.

Hutu rebels have been fighting the government of the tiny central African country for a decade to try to end the political dominance of the Tutsi minority in a war that has killed an estimated 300,000 people, mainly civilians.

Police said they had arrested 64 people on Friday, most of whom were from a rural area outside the capital regarded as an FNL stronghold. The detainees were not carrying the identity cards they are obliged to carry by law, police said.

"Past experience has shown us that the FNL first infiltrates the capital before launching an attack against the southern suburbs of Bujumbura, so we must pay much attention to avoid another surprise," police commander Simon Ndekatubane told Reuters.

The biggest Hutu rebel faction, the Forces for the Defence of Democracy (FDD), has signed a ceasefire with the government, but the truce has been routinely violated. The FNL has never joined the peace process, which is backed by neighbouring countries and South Africa.

08/16/03 11:20 ET

"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the state."

- Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels - Hitler's propaganda minister

ugnet_: Does Arrow Group Hit the Bull's Eye?