[Ugnet] Re: Ugandanet Digest, Vol 210, Issue 4
Otunnu is simply out of touch with the common Ugandan. My brother who is praising Olara Otunnu, am sorry to say that much as Otunnu served in Uganda's government, his knowledge of Uganda is slightly better than that of a newly born. Otunnu is simply out of touch and at least from my discourse with corporate friends, I realise that he has even failed to win over this section of society that would automatically fall in his target basing on his cv. Otunnu is not a politician, he could serve better as a PRO of some apolitical organisation. Ofcourse, the Baganda who continue to demonise UPC are the self-seeking politicians hiding in Mengo. Any sane Muganda who remembers the questions Miria Obote asked in 2005 following the death of Apollo Milton Obote; She asked what they would do if they were Obote and they were confronted by a Kabaka who was even a SOLDIER?? and no one has ever answered him. Eversince Binaisa came back to Uganda, he has never hidden the fact that as Attorney General, he advised Obote to attack Mengo and he(Binaisa) went ahead to draft the pigeonhole constitution overnight. With all these events, I would therefore find it foolhardy for any Muganda to accuse UPC of wrongdoing. Mind you, Obote was the Chief Executive of the country then and he could not risk the slightest error of judgement. What Obote did is what any CEO does and that is exactly what Museveni has continued to do. Museveni as CEO and CIC(Commander in chief) could not wait to get clearance from Mengo in order to visit Kasubi! People seem not to understand what it means to be President, that is why the Government of George Bush wielded so much power that it disregarded the UN security council advice and attacked Iraq! Olara Otunnu has personal hatred for the person of Museveni and this stems from the way Museveni outsmarted the Okellos(of which Olara Otunnu was chief negotiator) in the Nairobi Talks of 1985. When they Okellos and of course Olara Otunnu came back to Kampala, they announced that they 'had de-fanged the snake in Museveni' and they had finally struck a DEAL. The shrewd politician in Museveni came to the fore because as he engaged them in talks in Nairobi, Saleh and the troops were plotting the final assault in Kampala. This is the history of the mistrust Olara Otunnu has for Museveni, it is understandable, but Olara needs to understand that Politics is not for the morally upright, that is why himself while serving as UN ambassador, did not hesitate to take on Foreign Affairs Ministerial post in an illegitimate and accidental Government of the Okellos! My friend Olara Otunnu must also wake up and understand the demographics of Uganda today. Many of the voters in 2011 are Museveni kids and awakening the ghosts of Luweero will not help. Many of us who are orphans and in this generation of the class of 80's have lost Parents to HIV/AIDS, accidents, cholera, Ebola and others more than to WAR! This message is not resonating well with minds of this class. If Otunnu was brilliant, he would have first sat back and understand Uganda for 5 years while raising his political profile, and then he would seek to join politics, but since he has chosen to go full throttle this time, then he is in for a beating and it shall be a lesson for others of his ilk. On 4/11/2010, "ugandanet-requ...@kym.net" wrote: >Send Ugandanet mailing list submissions to > ugandanet@kym.net > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ugandanet-requ...@kym.net > >You can reach the person managing the list at > ugandanet-ow...@kym.net > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Ugandanet digest..." > > >Ugnet-Digest > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Buganda youth apologise to UPC?s Otunnu (Mitayo Potosi) > 2. Thanks Mr. Barigye for Milindwa - Enjoy With Rosa! > (Assumpta Kintu) > > >-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:33:00 -0400 >From: Mitayo Potosi >Subject: [Ugnet] Buganda youth apologise to UPC?s Otunnu >To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda > >Message-ID: > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > >Re:Buganda youth apologise to UPCÂ’s Otunnu > >The move by Buganda youth to apologize to Mr Olara Otunnu is, of course, the >right thing to do. > >Many of us Baganda are in strong support of this step. > >We are happy that our youth have shown the wisdom to break with the talk of >the likes of Betty Olive Namisango Kamya Turyomwe, who stridently, and for >ever, wants to demonize everything UPC. > >Hasn't Kamya been listening to Mzee Mayanja Nkangi who gave us a >clarification on the antics of the Mengo Lukiiko in 1966. Muteesa was >ill-advised into a conflict with the central goverment by the likes of Fred >Mpanga and Owessaza Sebanakit
Re: [Ugnet] Re: Ugandanet Digest, Vol 210, Issue 4
> *Thank you compatriot Egesa for highlighting this aspect of Olara Otunnu; > i.e. that he is out of touch for he has been out of the country for too > long. > > Cognisant of that aspect you also have to acknowledge that living/hustling > when one is out of ones country and succeeding is another school of hard > knocks. > > You immediately can see that, say, DP's Mao's problem is having no clue > of the dog eat dog forces in the wider world. > > Robert Musaazi-Namiti's articles in "The Uganda Record", about we Africans > slavishly bowing to the fascistic racist white supremacists whose goal is > only plunder stems partly from our lack of exposure of the wider world. > > My take is that of all opposition leaders Dr Kizza-Besigye has the firmest > touch with wananchi. While his eyes have been opened by the struggle to > survive in a foreign land (i.e. South Africa) Otunnu beats him on this > score. > > Besigye's camp again is saddled by those who see m7 as a formerly good man > gone bad. > > My take is that since 1968 Museveni has been the same thug. > > He has never changed. It is just that it took many close to fifteen years, > including Dr Muniini-Mulera here in Toronto, to see the true Museveni. > There are even some oppositionists who see nothing wrong with Museveni but > are just envious of him. > > So we are in a catch-22. > > All the world's vultures, Boers, WASPs, Serbs, Corporate vampires, the > world's out-laws etc are descending on to Uganda to loot the Oil, gold, > etc > > The peasant-like Norbert Mao, or Ssebana-Kizito would just be rolled over. > > Otunnu is not going to just let himself be run over by such scum. > > You cant take that away from him!!. > > Mitayo Potosi. > === * > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:11 AM, EGESA RONALD LEONARD > wrote: > >> Otunnu is simply out of touch with the common Ugandan. >> >> My brother who is praising Olara Otunnu, am sorry to say that much as >> Otunnu served in Uganda's government, his knowledge of Uganda is >> slightly better than that of a newly born. >> >> Otunnu is simply out of touch and at least from my discourse with >> corporate friends, I realise that he has even failed to win over this >> section of society that would automatically fall in his target basing on >> his cv. >> >> Otunnu is not a politician, he could serve better as a PRO of some >> apolitical organisation. Ofcourse, the Baganda who continue to demonise >> UPC are the self-seeking politicians hiding in Mengo. Any sane Muganda >> who remembers the questions Miria Obote asked in 2005 following the >> death of Apollo Milton Obote; She asked what they would do if they were >> Obote and they were confronted by a Kabaka who was even a SOLDIER?? and >> no one has ever answered him. >> >> Eversince Binaisa came back to Uganda, he has never hidden the fact that >> as Attorney General, he advised Obote to attack Mengo and he(Binaisa) >> went ahead to draft the pigeonhole constitution overnight. With all >> these events, I would therefore find it foolhardy for any Muganda to >> accuse UPC of wrongdoing. Mind you, Obote was the Chief Executive of the >> country then and he could not risk the slightest error of judgement. >> >> What Obote did is what any CEO does and that is exactly what Museveni has >> continued to do. Museveni as CEO and CIC(Commander in chief) could not >> wait to get clearance from Mengo in order to visit Kasubi! People seem >> not to understand what it means to be President, that is why the >> Government of George Bush wielded so much power that it disregarded the >> UN security council advice and attacked Iraq! >> >> Olara Otunnu has personal hatred for the person of Museveni and this >> stems from the way Museveni outsmarted the Okellos(of which Olara Otunnu >> was chief negotiator) in the Nairobi Talks of 1985. When they Okellos >> and of course Olara Otunnu came back to Kampala, they announced that >> they 'had de-fanged the snake in Museveni' and they had finally struck >> a DEAL. The shrewd politician in Museveni came to the fore because as he >> engaged them in talks in Nairobi, Saleh and the troops were plotting the >> final assault in Kampala. >> >> This is the history of the mistrust Olara Otunnu has for Museveni, it is >> understandable, but Olara needs to understand that Politics is not for >> the morally upright, that is why himself while serving as UN ambassador, >> did not hesitate to take on Foreign Affairs Ministerial post in an >> illegitimate and accidental Government of the Okellos! >> >> My friend Olara Otunnu must also wake up and understand the demographics >> of Uganda today. Many of the voters in 2011 are Museveni kids and >> awakening the ghosts of Luweero will not help. Many of us who are >> orphans and in this generation of the class of 80's have lost Parents >> to HIV/AIDS, accidents, cholera, Ebola and others more than to WAR! >> This message is not resonating well with minds of this class. >> >> If Otunnu was brilliant,
Re: [Ugnet] Re: Ugandanet Digest, Vol 210, Issue 4
* Thank you compatriot Egesa for highlighting this aspect of Olara Otunnu; i.e. that he is out of touch for he has been out of the country for too long. Cognisant of that aspect you also have to acknowledge that living/hustling when one is out of ones country and succeeding is another school of hard knocks. You immediately can see that, say, DP's Mao's problem is having no clue of the dog eat dog forces in the wider world. Robert Musaazi-Namiti's articles in "The Uganda Record", about we Africans slavishly bowing to the fascistic racist white supremacists whose goal is only plunder stems partly from our lack of exposure of the wider world. My take is that of all opposition leaders Dr Kizza-Besigye has the firmest touch with wananchi. While his eyes have been opened by the struggle to survive in a foreign land (i.e. South Africa) Otunnu beats him on this score. Besigye's camp again is saddled by those who see m7 as a formerly good man gone bad. My take is that since 1968 Museveni has been the same thug. He has never changed. It is just that it took many close to fifteen years, including Dr Muniini-Mulera here in Toronto, to see the true Museveni. There are even some oppositionists who see nothing wrong with Museveni but are just envious of him. So we are in a catch-22. All the world's vultures, Boers, WASPs, Serbs, Corporate vampires, the world's out-laws etc are descending on to Uganda to loot the Oil, gold, etc The peasant-like Norbert Mao, or Ssebana-Kizito would just be rolled over. Otunnu is not going to just let himself be run over by such scum. You cant take that away from him!!. Mitayo Potosi. === * On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:11 AM, EGESA RONALD LEONARD wrote: > Otunnu is simply out of touch with the common Ugandan. > > My brother who is praising Olara Otunnu, am sorry to say that much as > Otunnu served in Uganda's government, his knowledge of Uganda is > slightly better than that of a newly born. > > Otunnu is simply out of touch and at least from my discourse with > corporate friends, I realise that he has even failed to win over this > section of society that would automatically fall in his target basing on > his cv. > > Otunnu is not a politician, he could serve better as a PRO of some > apolitical organisation. Ofcourse, the Baganda who continue to demonise > UPC are the self-seeking politicians hiding in Mengo. Any sane Muganda > who remembers the questions Miria Obote asked in 2005 following the > death of Apollo Milton Obote; She asked what they would do if they were > Obote and they were confronted by a Kabaka who was even a SOLDIER?? and > no one has ever answered him. > > Eversince Binaisa came back to Uganda, he has never hidden the fact that > as Attorney General, he advised Obote to attack Mengo and he(Binaisa) > went ahead to draft the pigeonhole constitution overnight. With all > these events, I would therefore find it foolhardy for any Muganda to > accuse UPC of wrongdoing. Mind you, Obote was the Chief Executive of the > country then and he could not risk the slightest error of judgement. > > What Obote did is what any CEO does and that is exactly what Museveni has > continued to do. Museveni as CEO and CIC(Commander in chief) could not > wait to get clearance from Mengo in order to visit Kasubi! People seem > not to understand what it means to be President, that is why the > Government of George Bush wielded so much power that it disregarded the > UN security council advice and attacked Iraq! > > Olara Otunnu has personal hatred for the person of Museveni and this > stems from the way Museveni outsmarted the Okellos(of which Olara Otunnu > was chief negotiator) in the Nairobi Talks of 1985. When they Okellos > and of course Olara Otunnu came back to Kampala, they announced that > they 'had de-fanged the snake in Museveni' and they had finally struck > a DEAL. The shrewd politician in Museveni came to the fore because as he > engaged them in talks in Nairobi, Saleh and the troops were plotting the > final assault in Kampala. > > This is the history of the mistrust Olara Otunnu has for Museveni, it is > understandable, but Olara needs to understand that Politics is not for > the morally upright, that is why himself while serving as UN ambassador, > did not hesitate to take on Foreign Affairs Ministerial post in an > illegitimate and accidental Government of the Okellos! > > My friend Olara Otunnu must also wake up and understand the demographics > of Uganda today. Many of the voters in 2011 are Museveni kids and > awakening the ghosts of Luweero will not help. Many of us who are > orphans and in this generation of the class of 80's have lost Parents > to HIV/AIDS, accidents, cholera, Ebola and others more than to WAR! > This message is not resonating well with minds of this class. > > If Otunnu was brilliant, he would have first sat back and understand > Uganda for 5 years while raising his political profile, and then he > would seek to join p
