Re: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell R.A \ blander
Bwambuga, In the NRM/A hey days ALL THE TOP DOGS would only talk of crashing, wiping them out! Then came corner Kilak, that killings continued up to now, Soroti train wagon roast tranform into many episodes, Lango the havoc is still fresh up to today etc. NRM/A should understand that they can kill, kill kill but it might be difficult to wipe out, or make things easy for them!!!. tORO - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 2:31 AM Subject: RE: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell R.A \ blander AND Ss. Ssenyange, What a round about politics in Uganda will have made Could one ever have thought that many lives would be lost before we, as Ugandans, will have been all over only to find that it was all a blander? But the most important question then still remains, are we ready NOW to start it all over again? Together that is? Strength in diversity?? Bwambuga. -- Ed Kironde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be unthinkable in a country where UPC oligarchy banned all forms of opposition to find people who belonged to other political parties. It was illegal to have freedom of association; the authoritative brutal rule crashed such associations. It is laughable that now UPC members remind us which Ugandan joined them as though there were any other political organizations to join. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ssenya nyange Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell R.A \ blander Mr. Bwambuga, Thats why I called it a blander. One portion will go back to UPC, another led by Njuba will go back to DP or Concervative Party, another will join Ochega, Kibirige, Juuko etc. It wont be a solid block allying or joining UPC. J. Ssenyange --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell Reform Agenda\ blander Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:02:58 -0400 Netters, One thing people must realize is that most of those guys in the movement (and Reform for that matter) were at one time or another UPC subcripts. They believed in the principles that UPC stands for. But politics as usual keeps it smell trails. Having divergent views is one thing UPC stands for. Some of these people might have harboured some political fantacy at some point in time which made them good recruites for NRM. But as reality dawned on them they had to to go soul searching. At least they realised that NRM was just a fantacy. UPC did not disown them. UPC had no bitterness with any of them. What difference they may have had, it was healthy. It was good for each other's health in political terms. Now UPC is making clear to them that home is still home. Please come home. Bwambuga. - Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mwaami Ssenyange Reform Agenda is NRM in a blue suit. They have been a movement combining every Ugandan under one blanket, what is different from that and accepting publicly in round two that we are going to take every body this time but as a recognised entity? Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: ssenya nyange [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell Reform Agenda\ blander That will be Reform's biggest blander of this century. A reform based on sentiments and nothing to reconcile is NOT a Reform. J. Ssenyange -- From: gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell Reform Agenda Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 22:49:28 + _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- He it is Who created for you all that is on earth...He is the All-knower of everything. Swaddaq Allahu Al-Adhim. Michael Bwambuga. __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page
RE: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell R.A \ blander
Mr. Bwambuga, Thats why I called it a blander. One portion will go back to UPC, another led by Njuba will go back to DP or Concervative Party, another will join Ochega, Kibirige, Juuko etc. It wont be a solid block allying or joining UPC. J. Ssenyange --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell Reform Agenda\ blander Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:02:58 -0400 Netters, One thing people must realize is that most of those guys in the movement (and Reform for that matter) were at one time or another UPC subcripts. They believed in the principles that UPC stands for. But politics as usual keeps it smell trails. Having divergent views is one thing UPC stands for. Some of these people might have harboured some political fantacy at some point in time which made them good recruites for NRM. But as reality dawned on them they had to to go soul searching. At least they realised that NRM was just a fantacy. UPC did not disown them. UPC had no bitterness with any of them. What difference they may have had, it was healthy. It was good for each other's health in political terms. Now UPC is making clear to them that home is still home. Please come home. Bwambuga. - Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mwaami Ssenyange Reform Agenda is NRM in a blue suit. They have been a movement combining every Ugandan under one blanket, what is different from that and accepting publicly in round two that we are going to take every body this time but as a recognised entity? Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: ssenya nyange [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell Reform Agenda\ blander That will be Reform's biggest blander of this century. A reform based on sentiments and nothing to reconcile is NOT a Reform. J. Ssenyange -- From: gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell Reform Agenda Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 22:49:28 + _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- He it is Who created for you all that is on earth...He is the All-knower of everything. Swaddaq Allahu Al-Adhim. Michael Bwambuga. __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell R.A \ blander
AND Ss. Ssenyange, What a round about politics in Uganda will have made Could one ever have thought that many lives would be lost before we, as Ugandans, will have been all over only to find that it was all a blander? But the most important question then still remains, are we ready NOW to start it all over again? Together that is? Strength in diversity?? Bwambuga. -- Ed Kironde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be unthinkable in a country where UPC oligarchy banned all forms of opposition to find people who belonged to other political parties. It was illegal to have freedom of association; the authoritative brutal rule crashed such associations. It is laughable that now UPC members remind us which Ugandan joined them as though there were any other political organizations to join. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ssenya nyange Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell R.A \ blander Mr. Bwambuga, Thats why I called it a blander. One portion will go back to UPC, another led by Njuba will go back to DP or Concervative Party, another will join Ochega, Kibirige, Juuko etc. It wont be a solid block allying or joining UPC. J. Ssenyange --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell Reform Agenda\ blander Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:02:58 -0400 Netters, One thing people must realize is that most of those guys in the movement (and Reform for that matter) were at one time or another UPC subcripts. They believed in the principles that UPC stands for. But politics as usual keeps it smell trails. Having divergent views is one thing UPC stands for. Some of these people might have harboured some political fantacy at some point in time which made them good recruites for NRM. But as reality dawned on them they had to to go soul searching. At least they realised that NRM was just a fantacy. UPC did not disown them. UPC had no bitterness with any of them. What difference they may have had, it was healthy. It was good for each other's health in political terms. Now UPC is making clear to them that home is still home. Please come home. Bwambuga. - Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mwaami Ssenyange Reform Agenda is NRM in a blue suit. They have been a movement combining every Ugandan under one blanket, what is different from that and accepting publicly in round two that we are going to take every body this time but as a recognised entity? Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: ssenya nyange [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell Reform Agenda\ blander That will be Reform's biggest blander of this century. A reform based on sentiments and nothing to reconcile is NOT a Reform. J. Ssenyange -- From: gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell Reform Agenda Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 22:49:28 + _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- He it is Who created for you all that is on earth...He is the All-knower of everything. Swaddaq Allahu Al-Adhim. Michael Bwambuga. __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/2003 -- He it is Who created for you all that is on earth...He is the All-knower of everything. Swaddaq Allahu Al-Adhim. Michael Bwambuga. __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network
Re: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell R.A \ blander
Kironde You might be right in your statement but you see there is a catch, UPC has survived on and for a long time. They sell an idea, it is not about who or what but the idea. And if you look closely Movement has failed for they thought that using vocubralies work, words like annihilate, political bankruptcy on and on, but realistically Movement never had an idea that my parents can get interested in. And for that I personally feel that untill when we as a society can sit down and figure out an idea that can sell in our people, UPC has an upper hand in Uganda politics. Look on the groups coming into Uganda today, The Reform Agenda can not even apologise for the murders they did in Uganda, they are asking us to forget what ever they have been doing and we move on, actually they are not only asking for that, they want us as well to accept some other huge NRM cores who are even still in the movement as we speak. Kironde I would love to see Kiiza Besigye as a leader of The Reform Agenda winning the next presidency, and after that I love him to go and address his first rally in Gulu. I want to know what he can tell to the women in Northern Uganda who were not only raped but made widows and their kids killed by UPDF when Kiiza Besigye was still in Uganda Government. I would love to hear that speech and even attend it in person for it might teach me how tolerant Ugandans are. Then look on the Federalists, these are people who believe that we can only build Uganda under federalism but Buganda must be left un touched. Now as we are still letting that sink in, Museveni has taken the equation a step further, Here we are with Ssanga Lyambogo put on a national stamp, one wonders what is her position to Uganda as a state that no other Uganda kid fits? And if she has taken that position today before Federalism becomes a reality in Uganda, what will happen if Uganda becomes a federalist state? One wonders. Look on DP, these are guys who were in London meeting to generate energy with in a party, but reports today are stating that even some other DP prominent were refused to attend. That is why it all sink down to the Ugandans, the problem is that when Ugandans decide, you shoot them on spot. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: Ed Kironde To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 9:01 PM Subject: RE: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell R.A \ blander It would be unthinkable in a country where UPC oligarchy banned all forms of opposition to find people who belonged to other political parties. It was illegal to have freedom of association; the authoritative brutal rule crashed such associations. It is laughable that now UPC members remind us which Ugandan joined them as though there were any other political organizations to join. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ssenya nyangeSent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:49 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell R.A \ blander Mr. Bwambuga, Thats why I called it a blander. One portion will go back to UPC, another led by Njuba will go back to DP or Concervative Party, another will join Ochega, Kibirige, Juuko etc. It wont be a solid block allying or joining UPC. J. Ssenyange --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell Reform Agenda\ blander Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:02:58 -0400 Netters, One thing people must realize is that most of those guys in the movement (and Reform for that matter) were at one time or another UPC subcripts. They believed in the principles that UPC stands for. But politics as usual keeps it smell trails. Having divergent views is one thing UPC stands for. Some of these people might have harboured some political fantacy at some point in time which made them good recruites for NRM. But as reality dawned on them they had to to go soul searching. At least they realised that NRM was just a fantacy. UPC did not disown them. UPC had no bitterness with any of them. What difference they may have had, it was healthy. It was good for each other's health in political terms. Now UPC is making clear to them that home is still home. Please come home. Bwambuga. - "Mulindwa Edward" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mwaami Ssenyange Reform Agenda is NRM in a blue suit. They have been a movement combining every Ugandan under one blanket, what is different from that and accepting publicly in round two that
