Re: [Ugnet] {UAH} Statement on Public Order Management Bill by Hon. ( Amb) James Baba
*Re: [Ugnet] {UAH} Statement on Public Order Management Bill by Hon. ( Amb) James Baba* Folks, Me I think this *Public Order Management Bill* is not wide enough. The demonstrations we see in Uganda are organized to advance foreign interests. When Imperialists kill Gadhafi, and The Chief Khadi of Uganda is there crying in Public and infront of the Grand Mosque at Old Kampala; and Five African Presidents that are mandated by the AU to fly to Libya to resolve the problem are prevented from flying to Libya, on our African Continent by the likes of Canada’s Stephen Harper, What does Besigye do? He gets a call from the British Ambassador to mount a “Walk to Work” demonstration to divert our focus. So my request to the Government is to “Smash” such Demonstrations. The ones that undermine our country. If Besigye is genuine let us storm the Ministry of Education. The one where our children are given Diplomas for “kubajja” three-legged Karomoja stools. The one where Britain has infiltrated to cut the country’s Maths Curriculum by half. What is built in Kla by our engineers collapses. Of course there is zero Maths taught in the country. That is the problem. British like that way to keep us silly. St Mary’s Kisubi never had a Maths Teacher. JC Kiwanuka is/was a Geography teacher who also taught Maths – No wonder you see no Kisubi OB Mathematics Professors. Budo only briefly had two Maths teachers I know ( My very best friend Brother “magician” from Kigezi, and one Nakabaale). They had Okello-Ongicha with Geography and Maths. We need serious Maths to build our country. The Besigye-Ingrid Turinawe are totally discredited,and diversionary. That is why I am with our Police to stop them. Mitayo Potosi On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa mulin...@look.cawrote: Robukui ** ** Uganda’s problem is not The Nazis it is the stupidity sitting in our country. You will remove them and still get a government that is worse. Think about it, why are Ugandans ecstatic about this document? A document that has absolutely no sense? You know I have posted some writings about the net access in Uganda, and do you know what I figured out? Ugandans actually believe that if a government buys a mobile transmission truck, it has created a best Radio Uganda. They have no idea how a society gets built with full infrastructures. Uganda is pacing at a speed that by 2015 I will only need a ship with a communication system where Ugandans can buy cells in Kampala and call via the ship at the Lake Victoria waters. And the Orangutans wills stand to praise how EM has developed the country. I am going to remember too to pack in support of internet. So you walk into our office in Kampala we hand you a hand set and a new number but you actually call from the ship at water. ** ** Ugandans will praise that as a telephone system growth. ** ** EM On the 49th ** ** Thé Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko ** ** *From:* ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com [mailto: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Robukui . *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2013 8:44 PM *To:* UAH *Cc:* e...@mediacentre.go.ug *Subject:* Re: {UAH} Statement on Public Order Management Bill by Hon. ( Amb) James Baba ** ** Abbey, The sooner we get ride of these Nazi's from our Country, the better. These Nazi tactics will be highlighted and resisted, they have condemned in every sober corner of the world, we see it for what it is. The Police serve only the people, not as a tool of a Dictatorship, that is on it's last lap. Hitler’s police state worked on the rule that if you said nothing, no harm, could come to you. If you had doubts about the way the country was going, you kept them to yourself - or paid the price. As nearly 17 million people had not voted for either the Nazis or the Nationalist in March 1933, a large and visible police force was required to keep this sizeable group under observation and control. In Nazi Germany http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Nazi%20Germany.htm the police were allowed to arrest people on suspicion that they were about to do wrong. This gave the police huge powers. All local police units had to draw up a list of people in their locality who might be suspected of being Enemies of the State. This list was given to the Gestapo - the Secret Police. The Gestapo had the power to do as it liked. Its leader - Reinhard Heydrich - was one of the most feared man in Nazi Germany. His immediate chief was Heinrich Himmlerhttp://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/heinrich_himmler.htm. Both men ran their respective branches with ruthless efficiency. Those arrested by either the police or the Gestapo had less than three minutes to pack
Re: [Ugnet] {UAH} Statement on Public Order Management Bill by Hon. ( Amb) James Baba
So where do we go from there? We can only know where we want to go after we have taken stock of our country's affairs, institutions in particular. To change Govt or the office bearers is the easy and superficial part. And change for it's sake is futile. With violent change the worst of them all. Don't take me wrong. Our officers of State still have to be accountable. For me I see Uganda's worst peril in the Education Ministry. We are slowly being castrated. Losing Numeracy puts our country in peril. In 1964 Uganda's Maths Curriculum was cut by half. It has been cut into half again now. Maths curriculum aside, is Mr Njuba. He reminds me of the Old Kabaka Yekka. In KY, they always retorted back to Obote?* You have throw us, your ladder, away. How are you ever going to climb down?. Crushing was always the implied alternative!! * Obote never answered the question. For half a Century we Ugandans have just plodded on. pretended we can move forward without answering it. But me I remember KY. And my default is not to blame m7 for this. Kabaka Yekka posed an existential question. It will not disappear even after we have bombed ourselves insane. Twenty five years after the last Constitutional Conference is good time to have another one, and to re arrange our corridors of power, to advance our country and to enhance National Security. , . . Move Powers away from So Our officers of State still have to be accountable Still Blame laid down a framework!! Default is to blame m7 for this. But me I remember KY. Our officers of State still have to be accountable but it high time lks for issues we s and refence And As if Whom do yoinstituedThey ifsigye-Ingrid Turinawe are totally discredited,and diversionary. That is why I am with our Police to stop them. Mitayo On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Mitayo Potosi mitayopoto...@gmail.comwrote: *Re: [Ugnet] {UAH} Statement on Public Order Management Bill by Hon. ( Amb) James Baba* Folks, Me I think this *Public Order Management Bill* is not wide enough. The demonstrations we see in Uganda are organized to advance foreign interests. When Imperialists kill Gadhafi, and The Chief Khadi of Uganda is there crying in Public and infront of the Grand Mosque at Old Kampala; and Five African Presidents that are mandated by the AU to fly to Libya to resolve the problem are prevented from flying to Libya, on our African Continent by the likes of Canada’s Stephen Harper, What does Besigye do? He gets a call from the British Ambassador to mount a “Walk to Work” demonstration to divert our focus. So my request to the Government is to “Smash” such Demonstrations. The ones that undermine our country. If Besigye is genuine let us storm the Ministry of Education. The one where our children are given Diplomas for “kubajja” three-legged Karomoja stools. The one where Britain has infiltrated to cut the country’s Maths Curriculum by half. What is built in Kla by our engineers collapses. Of course there is zero Maths taught in the country. That is the problem. British like that way to keep us silly. St Mary’s Kisubi never had a Maths Teacher. JC Kiwanuka is/was a Geography teacher who also taught Maths – No wonder you see no Kisubi OB Mathematics Professors. Budo only briefly had two Maths teachers I know ( My very best friend Brother “magician” from Kigezi, and one Nakabaale). They had Okello-Ongicha with Geography and Maths. We need serious Maths to build our country. The Besigye-Ingrid Turinawe are totally discredited,and diversionary. That is why I am with our Police to stop them. Mitayo Potosi On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa mulin...@look.cawrote: Robukui ** ** Uganda’s problem is not The Nazis it is the stupidity sitting in our country. You will remove them and still get a government that is worse. Think about it, why are Ugandans ecstatic about this document? A document that has absolutely no sense? You know I have posted some writings about the net access in Uganda, and do you know what I figured out? Ugandans actually believe that if a government buys a mobile transmission truck, it has created a best Radio Uganda. They have no idea how a society gets built with full infrastructures. Uganda is pacing at a speed that by 2015 I will only need a ship with a communication system where Ugandans can buy cells in Kampala and call via the ship at the Lake Victoria waters. And the Orangutans wills stand to praise how EM has developed the country. I am going to remember too to pack in support of internet. So you walk into our office in Kampala we hand you a hand set and a new number but you actually call from the ship at water. ** ** Ugandans will praise that as a telephone system growth. ** ** EM On the 49th ** ** Thé Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano
Re: [Ugnet] {UAH} Statement on Public Order Management Bill by Hon. ( Amb) James Baba
Robukui Ugandas problem is not The Nazis it is the stupidity sitting in our country. You will remove them and still get a government that is worse. Think about it, why are Ugandans ecstatic about this document? A document that has absolutely no sense? You know I have posted some writings about the net access in Uganda, and do you know what I figured out? Ugandans actually believe that if a government buys a mobile transmission truck, it has created a best Radio Uganda. They have no idea how a society gets built with full infrastructures. Uganda is pacing at a speed that by 2015 I will only need a ship with a communication system where Ugandans can buy cells in Kampala and call via the ship at the Lake Victoria waters. And the Orangutans wills stand to praise how EM has developed the country. I am going to remember too to pack in support of internet. So you walk into our office in Kampala we hand you a hand set and a new number but you actually call from the ship at water. Ugandans will praise that as a telephone system growth. EM On the 49th Thé Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robukui . Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 8:44 PM To: UAH Cc: e...@mediacentre.go.ug Subject: Re: {UAH} Statement on Public Order Management Bill by Hon. ( Amb) James Baba Abbey, The sooner we get ride of these Nazi's from our Country, the better. These Nazi tactics will be highlighted and resisted, they have condemned in every sober corner of the world, we see it for what it is. The Police serve only the people, not as a tool of a Dictatorship, that is on it's last lap. Hitlers police state worked on the rule that if you said nothing, no harm, could come to you. If you had doubts about the way the country was going, you kept them to yourself - or paid the price. As nearly 17 million people had not voted for either the Nazis or the Nationalist in March 1933, a large and visible police force was required to keep this sizeable group under observation and control. In http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Nazi%20Germany.htm Nazi Germany the police were allowed to arrest people on suspicion that they were about to do wrong. This gave the police huge powers. All local police units had to draw up a list of people in their locality who might be suspected of being Enemies of the State. This list was given to the Gestapo - the Secret Police. The Gestapo had the power to do as it liked. Its leader - Reinhard Heydrich - was one of the most feared man in Nazi Germany. His immediate chief was http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/heinrich_himmler.htm Heinrich Himmler. Both men ran their respective branches with ruthless efficiency. Those arrested by either the police or the Gestapo had less than three minutes to pack clothing and say their goodbyes. Once arrested, they were sent to the nearest police cell. Those in custody were told to sign Form D-11; this was an Order For Protective Custody. By signing this, you agreed to go to prison. Those who did not sign it were beaten until they did or officers simply forged their signature. Once a D-11 was signed, you were sent to a concentration camp. How long you stayed here depended on the authorities. The usual rule of thumb was whether it was felt that you had learned your lesson (even if there had not been one to learn) and would behave in an acceptable manner once outside of prison. http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi_police_state.htm Viele GruBe Robukui On 16 August 2013 17:33, Abbey Semuwemba abbeysemuwe...@gmail.com wrote: MIA/01/0813 16th August 2013 PRESS STATEMENT PUBLIC ORDER MANAGEMENT BILL SEEKS TO REGULATE GATHERINGS BACKGROUND. 1. As you may be aware, the Public Order and Management Bill (POMB), 2011 was recently passed and now awaits assent by His Excellency the President, after which it will be an enforceable law in Uganda. While such processes regarding the bill are still underway, Government is seeking to highlight its core aspects to help the public understand it better. This is because the NRM Government realizes that new laws such as the POMB are better enforceable, if they are well understood by various stakeholders and the general public. 2. To put the POMB into context, on 27th May 2008, the Constitutional Court made a ruling in Constitution Petition No. 9/06, Muwanga Kivumbi vs Attorney General, annulling Section 32 (2) of the Police Act. This section empowered the Inspector General of Police to prohibit public assemblies or demonstrations where the assemblies or demonstrations posed a likelihood to the breach of peace. The Court found that the powers given to the Police in this