Sister Nagadya:
 
I understand your point that no matter what we do some people will never outgrow their childish misfeelings of us being responsible for their misery.  But I'll continue to educate them on several issues about how we are not the causes of their misery. 
 
Uganda has never had a Muganda brutal dictator.  They should name one.  Most of all these dictators who have lead Uganda into bloodshed, political decay, economic chaos, etc for all these years are non-Baganda.  The blame should go to its rightful owners; Obote (Lango), Amin (W. Nile), Mu7 (Ankole), Okello (?).  I bet people from all these mentioned regions are still blamming Buganda for the miseries Uganda has been through, and sparing their blood thrust sons out of the equation.  These people are quite very much not thinking realitically but thinking out of their lie-based emotions.
 
Our King is doing a good job and we salute him.  Now, let's find out what the Bunyoro, Busoga, Ankole, Tooro Kings, and other Chiefs have done so far about the northern war.
 
Zakoomu R.

Mary Nagadya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sister Rehema,

Don't waste your breath and time on these sour-pusses.

Not too long ago there was an article in Monitor
followed by responses and topic was the Baganda and
the Northern war.

There have also been a lot of discussion on the
subject on this forum.

To a malcontent, no matter what you do, you are always
somehow responsible for his or her misery.

Our Kabaka is doing a job, and that's all there is to
it.

--- Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Mulindwa:
>
> You said: "Today Ssabasajja for the first time has
> come out and become involved." This is a total lie
> and you know it. This is not the first time the
> King has extended his hand into trying to solve the
> Northern war.
>
> 1). The King's foundation scholarship fund has
> given scholarsh ips to particularly Northern students
> from war torn areas to continue with their dream of
> having an education.
> 2). The King has talked several times before about
> the war and the suffering of people.
>
> 3). He has stayed in contact with Northern
> traditional chiefs to discuss the issue.
>
> 4). One time he wanted to talk to the redels but
> the gov't 'advised' him not to try it. Actually
> they stepped in and stopped him just as they have
> always done to stop 3rd party people from talking
> peace.
>
> I'll make it clear for you again. Ssabasajja is not
> a formal political leader. You will not see him on
> the ballot box.
>
> Zakoomu R.
>
> Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Zakoomu
>
> I do not know what hole you have popped from, the
> fact of the matter is that if you were sober enough
> to follow t he discussion which has been very long.
> Many of us have been complaining of the refusal of
> Buganda king to make a war from Northern Uganda a
> part of their concern. We have been wondering why
> Ssabasajja has decided to keep quite when Ugandans
> in the North are dying, and when his men are being
> sent to die from both DRC and Northern Uganda. The
> infidels in this forum have continuously responded
> that the Sabasajja can not be involved in these
> matters for he is a cultural leader not a political
> leader.
> Today Sabasajja for the first time has come out and
> become involved. And I am asking those same infidels
> as to whether not this Sabasajja is getting involved
> for he is a political leader? But before they
> answered me then a an informed and an individual who
> know no where this discussion came from, decided to
> rant. That is why I some times log off and just
> watch.
>
> Em
>
> The Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans
> l'anarchie"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rehema Mukooza
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 12:05 AM
> Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders
> Over LRA Rebels
>
>
> Mulindwa:
>
> The Kabaka is informally political if you didn't
> know, in the same way Mengo gov't is an informal
> gov't. Where have you been, Mulindwa?? He is a
> traditional leader, and I'll tell that all
> traditional leaders are informal political leaders
> of the peoples they lead.
>
> Mulindwa, you once criticized the King of Ugandan
> Kings and Mengo for being reluctant towards peace in
> the Nor th. Now, are you turning on your words??
> You criticized Buganda and Baganda for
> "sleeping/kasita twebaka otulo" while fellow
> Ugandans are dying and suffering in the North.
>
> Are you dillusional or what?? Being informally
> political especially when the leading King of
> Ugandan Kings is taking peace is something we should
> be proud of. All informal political/traditional
> leaders should help bring peace to our motherland.
> If the formal political leaders have failed to keep
> up with their duty, let the informal
> political/traditional leaders try it out and see
> what they can accomplish.
>
> Our formal political leaders have failed as over and
> over again, we need to wake up and shift our support
> towards our informal leaders. I have no trust and
> faith in formal political leaders and yet I have an
> undeniable trust and faith in my informal
> political/traditional leader (Kabaka). Why? The
> political events in our Uganda can talk for
> themselves.
>
> Zakoomu R.
>
> Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Is the Kabaka political now?
>
>
> Em
>
> The Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans
> l'anarchie"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: J Ssemakula
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:57 PM
> Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders
> Over LRA Rebels

> Likewise, I salute the Kabaka for trying to search
> for peace to end the misery of our suffering
> brethren.
>
> Ssemakula
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Rehema Mukooza
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders
> Over LRA Rebels
> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:41:40 -0800 (PST)
>
> I am pleased to see our King Ronald Mutebi extending
> his hand to try with other traditional leaders to
> get some ways of resolving this issue in the North.
> The war will not stop itself as the government is
> wishing for. I believe that all traditional leaders
> have always wanted to work together towards a stable
> Uganda but our own gov't is working tirelessly to
> break this corrabollation and understanding among
> our traditional leaders. Why? It's the work of
> evilness our gov't has always as usual worked on.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders
> Over LRA Rebels
>
> New Vision (Kampala)January 17, 2004
> Posted to the web January 19, 2004 Josephine
> Maseruka
> Kampala Kabaka Ronald Mutebi has accepted to meet
> traditional leaders from southern Sudan to discuss
> ways of ending the17-year northern Uganda insurgency
> by the Joseph Kony rebels.
>
> The Kabaka made the commitment on Thursday when he
> received the in-charge of conflict issues in the
> confederation of Switzerland, Ambassador Joseph
> Bucher
> The meeting was held at Kabaka's Banda palace.
>
> Bucher met the Kabaka to discuss the role of
> traditional leaders in conflict resolution.He said
> his government would in the next two months organise
> a conference on ending armed conflicts for
> traditional leaders in the region.
>
> On Tuesday, the head of the European Union
> delegation in Uganda, Sigurd Illing, asked the
> Government to involve a third party in the peace
> talks to end the northern insurgency."
>
> ; The Lord's Resistance Army doesn't seem to have
> confidence in the Government. Somebody outside the
> Government should come in to build confidence. If
> other methods have not succeeded the Government must
> look for a way out," Illing told The New Vision.
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