Re: ugnet_: MUNINI MULERA'S NOTE TO TINGASINGA

2003-06-04 Thread gook makanga

Mulindwa,
As usual you have your hands on the right button. Thanks for this onebut will they listen?
Rgds

Gook 



"You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom."- Malcom X 







Original Message Follows From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: ugnet_: MUNINI MULERA'S NOTE TO TINGASINGA Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 20:01:58 -0400 Netters Africans and Ugandans I must encourage every one to read Dr. Mulera's writing in today's Kampala Monitor for it has some very compelling reasons that we must look at and very carefully as Museveni's brutality encompasses our entire nation. It is as well important that we look at the Banyoro/Bakiga problem very carefully for we can easily get a genocide that no body will know about. Just for the record I must start by appealing to Ugandans in Western Uganda to try their best and solve this problem as amicably as possible. After reading this very interesting piece, I have found nothing new from the way Museveni operates. It is the usual tactic Museveni has used from day one. The only remaining factor in Banyoro Bakiga equation is the involvement of Uganda People Defence Forces, for they are going to go to Kabaale and give guns to both Bakiga and Banyoro and ask them to protect them selves. Those sporadic killings that we have witnessed so far are going to be escalated as soon as guns are put into the hands of these two groups. Museveni has done it to the Hutu's and Tutsi's of Rwanda, he has done it to the Karimojongs, he has done it to all fighting groups in The Democratic Republic of Congo, right from the old Kabila to now the Hema and Lendu tribes. Now that is a very long history that I can not go through today, but it has been all followed by an enamours deaths that we have never experienced in our Great Lakes Region. All this is thanks to one man Yoweri Museveni. Again we must go back in Luwero District where it all started. I have stated before that during the war in Luwero, Museveni's use of tribes against each other was very public, and we made it as public as possible only that Ugandans refused to listen. Let me remind all
 of you that Museveni's war in Luwero was a war fought by Baganda who were commanded by Westerners. And I must define that broad term. It included the Rwandese, and all tribes West of Masaka. But at this time all of them used one language Lunyankole, a language which for some reason can become very accommodative. This brought allot of controversy among Baganda old people. But let us not forget that NRM to start with had no plans what so ever to recruit any Baganda in their ranks, but that is a debate for another day. For the record I must as well mention that during the fighting between NRM and UNLA, if a Muganda commanded his platoon successfully and they recognised that he was a good fighter, Officers who were Westerners would undermine him and kill him some how. Many Baganda fighters did not survive that war not because they were killed by the then Government forces but because they were killed by high ranking officers in NRM for fear that a Muganda good fighter will become powerful later in the journey to kampala. The results of this very offensive habit became very clear at the end of the war, when UPDF had very many Baganda men/women but with very many Westerners as officers. In fact that is why you see the Kagame's the Kaziini's and so on today, they were not promoted for they were good soldiers it was solely based on their tribes. Although these complaints were made public over and over, Westerners failed to understand that Museveni and the Movement were actually Using them. A good example is the attack on Rwanda which NRM used to kill very prominent Rwandese who were viewed as potential leaders, in fact it was that murdering of those officers which resulted into Paul Kagame's becoming a leader of RPF. Our conscious must lead us to ask a very simple question, what happened to original leader/s of RPF? When the war started in Northern Uganda, it was a war between Northerners and Southerners, we as society did not oppose it, for we deluded our selves that Museveni was actually tellin
g us the truth that Northerners are biological substances. Very many of them have lost and are continuing to loose their lives. When The Hutu's and Tutsi's of Rwanda slaughtered them selves, we again bought Museveni's story, many lives were lost. Today it is the Hema and Lendu's in Congo, just for record Museveni and kagame have at a certain point armed both of these groups. Again we kept quite. When prisoners of war from Congo were ferried to Kanungu and killed over night, we bought the story of Uganda has a cult lead by Kibweetere. Is Kabaale the next genocide district? I do not know but this I will say, the situation lacks only one ingredient, UPDF supplying guns to the citizenry to protect its self. And t

ugnet_: MUNINI MULERA'S NOTE TO TINGASINGA

2003-06-03 Thread Mulindwa Edward



Netters Africans and Ugandans

I must encourage every one to read Dr. Mulera's 
writing in today's Kampala Monitor for it has some very compelling reasons that 
we must look at and very carefully as Museveni'sbrutality encompasses our 
entire nation. It is as well important that we look at the Banyoro/Bakiga 
problem very carefully for we can easily get a genocide that no body will know 
about.

Just for the record I must start by appealing to 
Ugandans in Western Uganda to try their bestand solve this problem as 
amicably as possible.

After reading this very interesting piece, I have 
found nothing new from the way Museveni operates. It is the usual tactic 
Museveni has used from day one. The only remaining factor in Banyoro Bakiga 
equation is the involvement of Uganda People Defence Forces, for they are going 
to go to Kabaale and give guns to both Bakiga and Banyoro and ask them to 
protect them selves. Those sporadic killings that we have witnessed so far are 
going to be escalated as soon as guns are put into the hands of these two 
groups. Museveni has done it to the Hutu's and Tutsi's of Rwanda, he has done it 
to the Karimojongs, he has done it to all fighting groups in The Democratic 
Republic of Congo, right from the old Kabila to now theHema and Lendu 
tribes. Now that is a very long history that I can not go through today, but it 
has been all followed by an enamours deaths that we have never experienced in 
our Great Lakes Region. All this is thanks to one manYoweri 
Museveni.

Again we must go back in Luwero District where it 
all started. I have stated before that during the war in Luwero, Museveni's use 
of tribes against each other was very public, and we made it as public as 
possible only that Ugandans refused to listen. Let me remind all of you that 
Museveni's war in Luwero was a war fought by Baganda who were commanded by 
Westerners. And I must define that broad term. It included the Rwandese, and all 
tribes West of Masaka. But at this time all of them used one language 
Lunyankole, a language which for some reason can become very accommodative. This 
brought allot of controversy among Baganda old people. But let us not forget 
that NRM to start with had no plans what so ever to recruit any Baganda in their 
ranks, but that is a debate for another day.

For the record I must as well mention that during 
the fighting between NRM and UNLA, if a Muganda commanded his platoon 
successfully and they recognised that he was a good fighter, Officers who were 
Westerners would undermine him and kill him some how. Many Baganda fighters did 
not survive that war not because they were killed by the then Government forces 
but because they were killed by high ranking officers in NRM for fear that a 
Muganda good fighter will become powerful later in the journey to kampala. The 
results of this very offensive habit became very clear at the end of the war, 
when UPDF had very many Baganda men/women but with very many Westerners as 
officers. In fact that is why you see the Kagame's the Kaziini's and so on 
today, they were not promoted for they were good soldiers it was solely based on 
their tribes.

Although these complaints were made public over and 
over, Westerners failed to understand that Museveni and the Movement were 
actually Using them. A good example is the attack on Rwanda which NRM used to 
kill very prominent Rwandese who were viewed as potential leaders, in fact it 
was that murdering of those officers which resulted into Paul Kagame's becoming 
a leader of RPF. Our conscious must lead us to ask a very simple question, what 
happened to originalleader/s of RPF?

When the war started in Northern Uganda, it was a 
war between Northerners and Southerners, we as society did not oppose it, for we 
deluded our selves that Museveni was actually telling us the truth that 
Northerners are biological substances. Very many of them have lost and are 
continuing to loose their lives. When The Hutu's and Tutsi's of Rwanda 
slaughtered them selves, we again bought Museveni's story, many lives were lost. 
Today it is the Hema and Lendu's in Congo, just for record Museveni and kagame 
have at a certain point armed both of these groups. Again we kept quite. When 
prisoners of war from Congo were ferried to Kanungu and killed over night, we 
bought the story of Uganda has a cult lead by Kibweetere.

Is Kabaale the next genocide district? I do not 
know but this I will say, the situation lacks only one ingredient, UPDF 
supplying guns to the citizenry to protect its self. And that is why I am very 
slow to ask Uganda Government to get involved into this very sad affair.For I 
have seen what happens when it gets involved. I think Bakiga and Banyoro are 
very serious people with a long history of being good peopleI would ask 
for a local intervention only.

It is very important for all of us to understand 
how Museveni works, this is a man who has been in our midst for now almost 20 
plus years. 

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2003-06-03 Thread Mulindwa Edward







  
  



  Letter to A Kampala Friend 
  
  By Muniini K. 
  Mulera In Toronto 
Not just land in KibaaleJune 
2, 2003


  
  

  Dear Tingasiga,
  When my father became a Mulokole [born again Christian] in the late 
  1950s, Christian ritual demanded that he disposes of all articles of sin 
  and forever renounce any interest in sinful things like the appreciation 
  of ungodly music. 
  His most prized material possession at the time was a black His 
  Master's Voice Gramophone, one of those talking boxes with a picture of a 
  dog called Nipper, on which shellac records were played using a nail-like 
  stylus that we called a "needle." 
  Though the gramophone was part of Satan's media for spreading immoral 
  music, my father could not bring himself to throw the sinful gadget that 
  had given him joy during his unsaved days. 
  Instead he gave the thing, together with his modest collection of 
  records, to Mr Bitariho, his brother-in-law who was married to my paternal 
  aunt Ms Juliana. 
  Mr Bitariho, who had owned a bar in Bugangari, Rujumbura, for many 
  years was, to put it very gently, a poor man. But his fortunes would 
  change within months of receiving that gramophone. 
  Customers began to flock into his bar and we began to hear that Mr 
  Bitariho was so rich that he was considering adding another wife to the 
  family. 
  Mr Bitariho's oldest son, Mr Bwesigye, who had just ended his academic 
  career at Kihanga Junior Secondary School in Mparo, joined his father in 
  running the bar. 
  He soon became a celebrity in Bugangari, his ability to flawlessly 
  operate the gramophone having earned him many admirers among the fairer 
  sex. 
  Tragically, Mr Bitariho died within a year or so and it did not take 
  long before the bar collapsed, leaving my widowed aunt and her children in 
  serious poverty once again. 
  Their only option was to migrate to Bunyoro in search of opportunities 
  and a new life. 
  That was over forty years ago. 
  I heard very little of cousin Bwesigye and his family in the ensuing 
  years, except for occasional reports that they, together with many other 
  Bakiga immigrant families, had turned Bunyoro's swamps and bushes into 
  farms with abundant yields. 
  It was not until 1980 that I met aunt Juliana in Kampala where she was 
  visiting my parents. She was a picture of health and happiness, spoke a 
  language that was a cross between Rukiga and Runyoro, and referred to 
  Kigezi as some foreign land. 
  Naturally, I was very eager to know how my childhood friend and hero 
  had faired in his adopted land. 
  "How is Mr Bwesigye doing in Bunyoro?" I asked. 
  "Bwesigye akakyira hati n'omukama. Aine abakazi babiri kandi naanywa na 
  Waragi!" [Bwesigye has done very well and is now a big man. He has two 
  wives and even drinks Waragi!]
  Apparently he was a chief of some sort. 
  She shared news of how other Bakiga had prospered in Bunyoro, and how 
  they were living in harmony with Banyoro and Baganda. 
  She spoke of the abundant land in her county and invited me to join 
  them in Bunyoro. 
  I would not be surprised if she secretly believed that my only hope of 
  ever advancing to the rank of a polygamist and Waragi drinker lay in the 
  virgin lands of Bunyoro. 
  A generation has passed since that conversation, and two generations 
  have passed since Juliana and her children moved to Bunyoro. 
  They, and their descendants, have become Banyakitara, with little 
  connection to Kigezi. 
  Many have married Banyoro and Baganda, and have produced children and 
  grandchildren who probably do not identify with Kigezi. 
  That one of their own, Mr Fred Ruremeera, was able to win an election 
  as LC V Chairman of Kibaale District, was confirmation that they had 
  arrived. 
  Without the support of Banyoro and Baganda in Kibaale, it is unlikely 
  that Mr Ruremeera would have won that election. 
  All of which makes one very suspicious of the feeble attempts by some, 
  including Uganda's rulers, to ascribe the evolving bloody inter-ethnic 
  tensions in Kibaale to a simple conflict over land. 
  While land is part of the problem, it is probably not the cause of the 
  current tensions. 
  Whereas our narrow ethnic loyalties instruct some of us to see some 
  second and third generation residents of an area as "others", hence the 
  reference to "Bakiga immigrants" in Kibaale, I do not buy the explanation 
  that the issue is a primarily ethnic one. 
  So we need to delve deeper and understand the genesis of the Kibaale 
  conflict. 
  While we must be tentative in our analysis, we should not discount 
   

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2003-06-03 Thread Mulindwa Edward




Not just land in KibaaleJune 
2, 2003


  
  

  Dear Tingasiga,
  When my father became a Mulokole [born again Christian] in the late 
  1950s, Christian ritual demanded that he disposes of all articles of sin 
  and forever renounce any interest in sinful things like the appreciation 
  of ungodly music. 
  His most prized material possession at the time was a black His 
  Master's Voice Gramophone, one of those talking boxes with a picture of a 
  dog called Nipper, on which shellac records were played using a nail-like 
  stylus that we called a "needle." 
  Though the gramophone was part of Satan's media for spreading immoral 
  music, my father could not bring himself to throw the sinful gadget that 
  had given him joy during his unsaved days. 
  Instead he gave the thing, together with his modest collection of 
  records, to Mr Bitariho, his brother-in-law who was married to my paternal 
  aunt Ms Juliana. 
  Mr Bitariho, who had owned a bar in Bugangari, Rujumbura, for many 
  years was, to put it very gently, a poor man. But his fortunes would 
  change within months of receiving that gramophone. 
  Customers began to flock into his bar and we began to hear that Mr 
  Bitariho was so rich that he was considering adding another wife to the 
  family. 
  Mr Bitariho's oldest son, Mr Bwesigye, who had just ended his academic 
  career at Kihanga Junior Secondary School in Mparo, joined his father in 
  running the bar. 
  He soon became a celebrity in Bugangari, his ability to flawlessly 
  operate the gramophone having earned him many admirers among the fairer 
  sex. 
  Tragically, Mr Bitariho died within a year or so and it did not take 
  long before the bar collapsed, leaving my widowed aunt and her children in 
  serious poverty once again. 
  Their only option was to migrate to Bunyoro in search of opportunities 
  and a new life. 
  That was over forty years ago. 
  I heard very little of cousin Bwesigye and his family in the ensuing 
  years, except for occasional reports that they, together with many other 
  Bakiga immigrant families, had turned Bunyoro's swamps and bushes into 
  farms with abundant yields. 
  It was not until 1980 that I met aunt Juliana in Kampala where she was 
  visiting my parents. She was a picture of health and happiness, spoke a 
  language that was a cross between Rukiga and Runyoro, and referred to 
  Kigezi as some foreign land. 
  Naturally, I was very eager to know how my childhood friend and hero 
  had faired in his adopted land. 
  "How is Mr Bwesigye doing in Bunyoro?" I asked. 
  "Bwesigye akakyira hati n'omukama. Aine abakazi babiri kandi naanywa na 
  Waragi!" [Bwesigye has done very well and is now a big man. He has two 
  wives and even drinks Waragi!]
  Apparently he was a chief of some sort. 
  She shared news of how other Bakiga had prospered in Bunyoro, and how 
  they were living in harmony with Banyoro and Baganda. 
  She spoke of the abundant land in her county and invited me to join 
  them in Bunyoro. 
  I would not be surprised if she secretly believed that my only hope of 
  ever advancing to the rank of a polygamist and Waragi drinker lay in the 
  virgin lands of Bunyoro. 
  A generation has passed since that conversation, and two generations 
  have passed since Juliana and her children moved to Bunyoro. 
  They, and their descendants, have become Banyakitara, with little 
  connection to Kigezi. 
  Many have married Banyoro and Baganda, and have produced children and 
  grandchildren who probably do not identify with Kigezi. 
  That one of their own, Mr Fred Ruremeera, was able to win an election 
  as LC V Chairman of Kibaale District, was confirmation that they had 
  arrived. 
  Without the support of Banyoro and Baganda in Kibaale, it is unlikely 
  that Mr Ruremeera would have won that election. 
  All of which makes one very suspicious of the feeble attempts by some, 
  including Uganda's rulers, to ascribe the evolving bloody inter-ethnic 
  tensions in Kibaale to a simple conflict over land. 
  While land is part of the problem, it is probably not the cause of the 
  current tensions. 
  Whereas our narrow ethnic loyalties instruct some of us to see some 
  second and third generation residents of an area as "others", hence the 
  reference to "Bakiga immigrants" in Kibaale, I do not buy the explanation 
  that the issue is a primarily ethnic one. 
  So we need to delve deeper and understand the genesis of the Kibaale 
  conflict. 
  While we must be tentative in our analysis, we should not discount 
  without examination the allegations and speculation that have been making 
  the rounds among observers 

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2003-06-03 Thread Mulindwa Edward



Mwaami Kironde

Your question is very important and I will try to 
respond.

In the time Museveni has been in Uganda we have 
watched him as killings and killings happen in our nation. Those of us who 
decided not to support his government stated over and over that the killings in 
Uganda are a work of UPDF, if it was not a work of UPDF it was a plan by the 
Movement to create these killings. If you want to know more of these workings of 
NRM talk to the families of the high ranking officers who get killed on Duty in 
Northern Uganda. As well I can add that a UPDF very recently for example was in 
a Hospital in Northern Uganda and he stated that he was shot by his superiors 
for he refused to follow an order to go and stage a road ambush. I have spent a 
good time posting my thinking about Northern Uganda, and I have stated that the 
best solution for us as a nation to stop the war in Northern Uganda is to pull 
all UPDF cells out of that part of Uganda. My calling of making Northern Uganda 
a national, was based on the fact that in Southern Uganda no body cares, in fact 
I have talked to Bakiga who told me that Northerners are responsible to what 
comes to them. So it was not in fighting as militarily. If you allow UPDF to go 
into those areas you will get the same results as in East Congo in Moroto in 
Northern Uganda in Western Uganda where a tech School was attacked and many 
students killed. The movement through its force UPDF is the killing machine 
directly or covertly.

But there is another very important factor, that we 
must start to take Uganda as our nation. If today the problem is in Bunyoro and 
Kabaale you as a Mugisu or as an Acholi must yell high and ask why NRM is 
killing Ugandans. Museveni has survived for we still had that silliness of it is 
Mulindwa's business who cares? Let record show that Bakiga are people who never 
experienced any war in Uganda's turbulent history. During the removal of Amin 
the forces by passed Bakiga from Mbarara to Fort Portal and onwards, the rest of 
the wars have been in Buganda and Bakiga have been just been told of them, in 
fact Kabaale was as if it is not part of Uganda. unfortunately they used that 
window to be very arrogant and unconcerned on issues which affect the rest of 
our nation. Museveni has reversed that. So I think that we must learn a lesson 
to start thinking on a national level. And as I stated this morning, if Mulindwa 
fights for Northern Uganda, it is not because he is a Northerner it is because 
he is concerned on the death of innocent Ugandans, and he is as well concerned 
on the death of Banyoro or the cannibalism in the Bakiga the same way. For the 
moment we make the death of Easterners or Northernersa non issue and yet 
we yell when Kabaale starts to get the Museveni's sun, our reasoning must be put 
in question.

Uganda is our country and it must always come first 
and out tribes must follow then after. If there is any lesson this Killer 
government has taught us, must be that.

Em

 The 
Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
anarchy" 
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans 
l'anarchie"

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ed 
  Kironde 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 4:17 PM
  Subject: RE: [Ugandacom] DR MUNINI 
  MULERA'S NOTE TO TINGASINGA
  
  
  Mukulu Mulindwa
  I 
  noticed this in your appeal
  “Just for 
  the record I must start by appealing to Ugandans in 
  Western 
  Uganda to try their bestand solve 
  this problem as amicably as possible”.
  
  Why 
  do you think that the suffering in Western 
  Uganda 
  deserves a local solution and the suffering in Northern 
  Uganda 
  merits a National approach?
  I 
  am of the view that both the killings in Western 
  Uganda 
  and loss of life in Northern 
  Uganda 
  or elsewhere must have a national (if not global) 
  solution.
  Waiting 
  for your response why you think it should be the Ugandans in Western area to 
  solve this problem.
  .
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Mulindwa 
  Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:37 
  AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: 
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rwanda; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
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  NOTE TO TINGASINGAImportance: High
  
  
  Netters Africans and 
  Ugandans
  
  
  
  I must encourage every one to read 
  Dr. Mulera's writing in today's Kampala Monitor for it has some very 
  compelling reasons that we must look at and very carefully as 
  Museveni'sbrutality encompasses our entire nation. It is as well 
  important that we look at the Banyoro/Bakiga problem very carefully for we can 
  easily get a genocide that no body will know 
  about.
  
  
  
  Just for the record I must start 
  by appealing to Ugandans in Western Uganda to try their bestand solve 
  this problem 

Re: ugnet_: MUNINI MULERA'S NOTE TO TINGASINGA

2003-06-03 Thread Ochan Otim
Where is it?

Ochan

At 08:01 PM 6/2/03 -0400, you wrote:
.. read Dr Mulera's column in today's monitor a copy of which I have 
attached. 
 
EM
 




Re: ugnet_: MUNINI MULERA'S NOTE TO TINGASINGA

2003-06-03 Thread Mulindwa Edward
Ochan

Ugandanet had a problem posting it together but it was posted separately and
it came out,those on Ugandacom got it as one posting.

Em


The Mulindwas Communication Group
With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie
- Original Message -
From: Ochan Otim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: ugnet_: MUNINI MULERA'S NOTE TO TINGASINGA


 Where is it?

 Ochan

 At 08:01 PM 6/2/03 -0400, you wrote:
 .. read Dr Mulera's column in today's monitor a copy of which
I have attached.
 
 EM