Re: [uknof] FTTC roll out logic?

2015-06-04 Thread Robin Williams

On 04/06/15 11:27, David Walters wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Gavin Henry ghe...@suretec.co.uk 
mailto:ghe...@suretec.co.uk wrote:


My point is that this is in a small village called Rothienorman with
one of those small brown shed type exchanges (forget the correct
name). I can't get FTTC in our main office in Aberdeen, the heart of
the Oil and Gas sector in Europe. How does this selection process for
upgrading exchanges get decided?!?


A big office might be on an exchange only line without a PCP (Primary 
Connection Point / green cabinet) to put an FTTC cabinet next to.


BT Openreach claim to be working on a solution for EO lines. I'm not 
sure what it will be or when it might happen.


I've seen it happen in some exchange areas - previously EO lines, new 
PCPs dropped outside the exchange (along with an FTTC cab) and the EO 
lines pulled back to the cabinet.  Seems to be a way around the ANFP not 
allowing VDSL directly from the exchange.


Rob



Re: [uknof] FTTC roll out logic?

2015-06-04 Thread Neil J. McRae
The NGA roll out is focused on the consumer market and return. I suspect 
your location would have been delivered under one of the rural extension 
schemes which I think would be HIE in your area. See my slides at -2 
Uknofs for the wider build picture in Scotland.



On 04/06/2015 11:00, Gavin Henry ghe...@suretec.co.uk wrote:

Morning all,

So this is almost a full 24 hours in from getting FTTC activated at
home yesterday. Coming from 7mb/s~ down and 1.5mb/s~ up to 66mb/s down
and 20mb/s up is amazing. What a difference this has made when working
at home. This is running on a Juniper SRX100 and Vigor 130 into
plus.net. We peer with plus.net on LONAP and LINX so my traffic to our
network (AS199659) is fast. Another point is that if I put in our own
realm/username/password it comes in to our LNS's, which is cool (it's
BT Wholesale circuits). I've kept it separate for now though.

I watched eagerly when the cabinet went up and even went down (right
geek) and chatted to the Openreach guys. That was March 1st, which
took a further 3 months until we could place the order. The Openreach
tech was late yesterday for the 8am-1pm slot, so I went down to the
exchange and grabbed him. All good and very happy.

My point is that this is in a small village called Rothienorman with
one of those small brown shed type exchanges (forget the correct
name). I can't get FTTC in our main office in Aberdeen, the heart of
the Oil and Gas sector in Europe. How does this selection process for
upgrading exchanges get decided?!?

Thanks,

Gavin.

-- 
Kind Regards,

Gavin Henry.
http://www.surevoip.co.uk



Re: [uknof] FTTC roll out logic?

2015-06-04 Thread David Walters
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Gavin Henry ghe...@suretec.co.uk wrote:

 My point is that this is in a small village called Rothienorman with
 one of those small brown shed type exchanges (forget the correct
 name). I can't get FTTC in our main office in Aberdeen, the heart of
 the Oil and Gas sector in Europe. How does this selection process for
 upgrading exchanges get decided?!?


A big office might be on an exchange only line without a PCP (Primary
Connection Point / green cabinet) to put an FTTC cabinet next to.

BT Openreach claim to be working on a solution for EO lines. I'm not sure
what it will be or when it might happen.


Re: [uknof] FTTC roll out logic?

2015-06-04 Thread Gavin Henry
On 4 Jun 2015 11:16, boggits bogg...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 4 June 2015 at 11:00, Gavin Henry ghe...@suretec.co.uk wrote:
  How does this selection process for
  upgrading exchanges get decided?!?

 Some have posited the following

 1. Money - upgrade locations where there is business case in terms of
 density of end users with available cash to spend
 2. Market Protection - Upgrade where VM have coverage, where other 3rd
 parties are deploying their solution and at the same time don't
 upgrade business areas (unless you have to) to stop Ethernet losses
 3. Politics - because either someone is paying you to do the work or
 its the only way to shut someone up


But isn't it Openreach doing these? Are the rollout plans given to Ofcom
and justified to Ofcom?

That's their job to oversee this. When will the minimum legal of 2mb/s
access get increased?


Re: [uknof] FTTC roll out logic?

2015-06-04 Thread Gavin Henry
 A big office might be on an exchange only line without a PCP (Primary
 Connection Point / green cabinet) to put an FTTC cabinet next to.

 BT Openreach claim to be working on a solution for EO lines. I'm not sure
 what it will be or when it might happen.

Ah, that makes more sense now. Thanks.

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Re: [uknof] FTTC roll out logic?

2015-06-04 Thread Gavin Henry
On 4 June 2015 at 11:28, Neil J. McRae n...@domino.org wrote:
 The NGA roll out is focused on the consumer market and return. I suspect
 your location would have been delivered under one of the rural extension
 schemes which I think would be HIE in your area. See my slides at -2
 Uknofs for the wider build picture in Scotland.

Thanks Neil. Yes, they were very interesting!

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Gavin Henry.
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