Re: [uknof] Rack Recommendations

2014-02-27 Thread Mike Hughes
On 27 February 2014 13:19, Nick Hilliard  wrote:

> On 27/02/2014 13:15, Mike Hughes wrote:
> > One of my out and out pet hates is circuits delivered as just flying
> tails
> > with plugs on the end, left hanging in  a hapazard manner around the
> > cabinet, with no proper termination or strain relief.
>
> nothing more depressing than a colocation centre trying to explain why this
> is a good idea.  :-(
>

You mean that you actually let them try? :)


Re: [uknof] Rack Recommendations

2014-02-27 Thread Mark Prior

On 27/02/2014 23:45, Mike Hughes wrote:


In terms of managing the third parties that go into your racks, and
you're able to afford it in your business plan, best thing to do is set
aside a cabinet or part of a cabinet purely for terminating circuits,
which are then patched to your equipment. The cablers then have no
business ferreting around where your active equipment is.



And when they stole power from an adjoining rack because it was more 
convenient for where they wanted to stuff their MTU. Had to set the dogs 
on that clown.


Mark.




Re: [uknof] Rack Recommendations

2014-02-27 Thread Peter Knapp
Quote: "One of my out and out pet hates is circuits delivered as just flying 
tails with plugs on the end, left hanging in  a hapazard manner around the 
cabinet, with no proper termination or strain relief."

Yeah, including Telehouse when they ignore "put them in the patch panel"...

Peter


Re: [uknof] Rack Recommendations

2014-02-27 Thread Peter Taphouse
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On 27/02/2014 13:15, Mike Hughes wrote:
> Haven't used the Delta3 racks myself, but have sworn by the Cooper 
> B-Line "Access" series for years and years now. They are super easy
> to use, available in a mind-boggling range of configurations, and
> don't have annoying corner posts.

They're just like the Access cabinets in terms of accessibility, but
have the added benefit of tool-less movement of mounting angles, and
better options for containment in aisles.  The extruded mounting
angles have slots on them that are designed for standard M6 bolts to
just screw in anywhere down their length.

The downside is that you can't get the central pillars in blue any
more, just plain aluminium :-(

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Re: [uknof] Rack Recommendations

2014-02-27 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 27/02/2014 13:15, Mike Hughes wrote:
> One of my out and out pet hates is circuits delivered as just flying tails
> with plugs on the end, left hanging in  a hapazard manner around the
> cabinet, with no proper termination or strain relief.

nothing more depressing than a colocation centre trying to explain why this
is a good idea.  :-(

Nick




Re: [uknof] Rack Recommendations

2014-02-27 Thread Mike Hughes
Haven't used the Delta3 racks myself, but have sworn by the Cooper B-Line
"Access" series for years and years now. They are super easy to use,
available in a mind-boggling range of configurations, and don't have
annoying corner posts.

In terms of managing the third parties that go into your racks, and you're
able to afford it in your business plan, best thing to do is set aside a
cabinet or part of a cabinet purely for terminating circuits, which are
then patched to your equipment. The cablers then have no business ferreting
around where your active equipment is.

One of my out and out pet hates is circuits delivered as just flying tails
with plugs on the end, left hanging in  a hapazard manner around the
cabinet, with no proper termination or strain relief.

Cheers,
Mike


Re: [uknof] Rack Recommendations

2014-02-27 Thread Peter Taphouse
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Hi,

We've recently bought a pod of Cooper B Line delta3 racks, admittedly
at 1200mm deep, but they've been excellent for cabling.  We had them
fitted with a pair of brackets for toolless mounting APC PDUs
vertically at the back on one side (up to 4 depending on mounting
angle positioning), and a nice open cable basket on the opposite side.
Mounting angles are all moveable without tools, and there are no
corner posts so access is good too.

> Has anyone got any recommendations for  a rack that would fit in a 
> 600x900 space that includes decent cable management up and down
> the rack, or you have purchased in addition for the rack. This
> includes PDUs too, any PDU recommendations (we obviously have
> existing PDUs we use which we are happy which, they are a bit of
> squash to get in though so open to new ideas) ? Vertical PDUs with
> per port cycling and power measuring.



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[uknof] Rack Recommendations

2014-02-27 Thread James Bensley
Hi All,

We are getting additional rack space in Tmelehouse East (a new foot
print) for one extra 19" rack.

We are allowed to (according to our Smelehouse account manager) put in
a rack that is 600 wide and 900 deep. The max height is "42u" but that
is a bit ambiguous as that is only the rack-able height in my opinion.

Cable management is big on my list of priorities. Our existing rack in
THE is now in a reasonably tidy state but it hasn't always been that
way and one problem with places like the Smelehouse DCs is that we
have a lot of third part circuits terminating in them. External
contractors and cablers enter our racks to deliver these circuits.
This is why cable manage is so important to us so they can't "knock"
out a fibre or shut something in the door.

Has anyone got any recommendations for  a rack that would fit in a
600x900 space that includes decent cable management up and down the
rack, or you have purchased in addition for the rack. This includes
PDUs too, any PDU recommendations (we obviously have existing PDUs we
use which we are happy which, they are a bit of squash to get in
though so open to new ideas) ? Vertical PDUs with per port cycling and
power measuring.

Kind regards,
James.