Re: [Unattended] Linux boot disk

2005-02-15 Thread Stefan Schlesinger
Eugene Kotlyarov wrote:
Stefan Schlesinger wrote:
where do i get the sources of the linux boot disk from? I read there 
should be a makefile
that'll regenerate the ISO if I had to do any changes. Couldn't find 
it so far
You have to get it from CVS
http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=62053 
Hello Eugene,
thanks for your reply. Got the CVS sources. As I understand the concept, 
first
of all I must 'make download' to download the sources of addidional 
software
needed to compile the ISO. Then I can change stuff to fit my needs. 
Afterwards
I need to run 'make iso' and 'make tftpboot' or copy the new ISO to the 
tftp
server's root by hand.

To update to the most rescent version of the bootdisk in the future, I'll
just need to recompile it like described above...
yours sincerely, stefan.
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Re: [Unattended] Package management using unattended

2005-02-15 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
I think it's better if software is installed in a background
(like WPKG does) - if something fails, user doesn't see it and
can work normally - it's crucial if you manage a bunch of servers
and clients remotely and have no physical access to them.

I agree. Please - does anyone out there have an autoit script which 
works in the background? That's the only thing which has forced me to 
abandon WPKG
I think it's doable as long as you program it to use keys and not mouse; 
but I am probably wrong, as it simulates real keystrokes and real mouse 
moves, so everything happens on the real screen, not on this "virtual" 
background one.

Perhaps a question posted to AutoIt mailing list would bring a 
definitive answer if it's possible or not?

Sorry for answering only this one, I will answer the rest later today :)
Tomek
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[Unattended] Unattended Scripts Question

2005-02-15 Thread Stefan Schlesinger
Hello folks,
can anyone tell me what lines like the one below are good for?
Is there a way to automatically download these files?
::URL|ALL|http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/flash/english/win95nt/ 
\
  
7.0.19.0/flashplayer7installer.exe|packages/macromedia/flashplayer7installer.exe

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Re: [Unattended] Package management using unattended

2005-02-15 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
a) installable silently when doing unattended install (preferably
in windows_installer.bat file to hide username and password when
doing unattended install):

windows_installer --silent --server 192.168.1.1 --user john
--pass password
Currently I'm storing the values in the registry and changing the access 
rights so that only System can read them (Might need to add 
Administrator to that too).
I meant the Unattended installing part - it prints out every command to 
the screen, so in order to hide passwords etc., one has to use a .bat 
file instead of plain commands and arguments.


b) runs on Windows in the background, connects to the server
using SSL (to secure username and password) when booting, and
fetches the instructions, sends software installed etc.

I've not considered the need to use SSL at this stage. (And I'm not sure 
that I've configured MySQL to use that correctly yet either - but I 
will, one day.)
I agree that functionality first, then we add security.
This is how you configure complicated things - add one feature and see 
if it works, then add another and so on.

But this would be neat to have some security in the end, as probably 
some of us wouldn't want some smart students/users stealing our 
installer versions, operating system, which are protected by law etc. etc.


c) server part as a dameon (on Linux, as most of use run Samba I
think):
- configurable via https web interface

Time to confess - I've never done anything using https. My inclination 
would be to 'get it working' using http and then hope that someone else 
would be inclined to help me convert to https. (Although as I write this 
I realise that there's someone thinking 'but it's sooo easy! You just do 
 and there it is.')
As long as it uses Apache as a http server (using which we would make 
changes to the configuration files), it's not a problem to add https.
Unless the daemon listens on its own port like Webmin does for example.


- report which software which client has installed (and what is
to be installed)

I think I'm coming at it from the other (wrong?) way - the client finds 
out what it has and what it *should* have and then tries to make the 
lists the same. I like the idea of the server being able to do the same 
calculation and "predict" what the client should be doing, though.
It's not that hard, it can be done with WPKG even now.
WPKG keeps the track of the software installed on a given machine in 
C:\winnt\system32\wpkg.xml

After WPKG runs, it's possible to upload this file to the server with a 
name of a host that uploads this file.


- "install" button to install/uninstall/upgrade the missing
software now

For users? Sounds attractive. I've been thinking about having a web 
interface which would allow users to select applications for which we 
have a site license or are freeware and allowing them to choose which of 
those packages are installed on their desktop. Or to remove packages 
they don't like. (I have one user who swears by virtual desktops. I have 
others who swear *at* virtual desktops...)
I was thinking of admin rather than the user.
If admin configures some new software, he could just compare the state 
"what's missing", press "Install" button, and immediately see the result 
if it installs or not - if software installs on system boot only, then 
the admin can wait a couple of days until he installs something.

We all know how hard it is to do some tasks on Windows silently 
(especially installing software - how much time did you waste on that?), 
so this would be a nice feature.

Users tend to be not familiar with software/hardware/computers etc., so 
everything should work flawlessly for them (the less telephone calls and 
emails the better).
But hey, why not give some of them some degree of independence (provided 
they can install only what we allow them).


- configure to install software on Winodws boot

I'd been thinking of installing software on the next boot always, but I 
can see that this would cause problems when, for example, a user has to 
reboot in the middle of work because Windows Update has just installed 
lots of stuff and only then remembers that he asked for  to be 
installed on his machine at the next boot. And  takes ages to 
install...
Windows Update can be configured not to reboot automatically, so can 
most of the software I think.


- configurable to install software from a password protected file
server / ftp / http etc.

Don't immediately see how easy it would be to implement installations 
from ftp / http servers. Password protected samba servers would probably 
cover a high-enough percentage of uses for the time being, I hope.
Provided there is some kind of wget for Windows, it shouldn't be that hard.
I agree, ftp / http would be an extra feature developed later.
But I can imagine it very usable: a company has its branch offices in 
the whole country, two employees in each office, so it wouldn't pay to 
provide an extra file server for just two computers - I kn

Re: [Unattended] Package management using unattended

2005-02-15 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
I've been playing with Unattended for about the same time. Have never 
made a good sell to the service desk folks here. Ghost always wins for 
the initial install.
quite the reverse here :)

b) Are there any suggestions or ideas about good ways to go about it?
We have been using a combination of tools to try to meet our needs. It's 
not pretty at this point. Made up of the following:

. Aida32 run on login daily if possible. It E-mails a .csv to a script 
that sticks in into a directory structure. It gives an abundance of PC 
information and allows you to view it as a spreadsheet or, input it into 
Aida32 and let it sort things out. Aida32 was a freeware/closed source 
application that was (as I understand it) sold out to a company and now 
it is under a new name and has costs.
so it's really not a choice for most of us?

. All installs are wrapped up using ISTool/Inno and saved in a directory 
structure so that they _all_ install with the same command line. Service 
Desk does not need to know how we want WordPerfect installed, just that 
every install is called the same way. This competes with the unattended 
way of having .bat files for everything, adds complexity in that all 
applications have to be wrapped up this way, but makes it much easier to 
have newbies start doing installs.
I'm not familiar with that.
can we wrap installing every application using ISTool/Inno, even those 
that _must_ be clicked through?


. PCs run a homemade server. It spawns and receives command via stunnel. 
An MD5 password hash is used to make sure legitimate techs are 
requesting commands. This service runs as system, so, for example, you 
can send a cmd.exe and start up a system level command window. One of 
the requests is for it to do an install. It takes this install requests, 
finds it on a web server because of the directory structure, and runs 
it. Again, since all installs run the same way... :). There is no 
interface for the user to see in the systray like vnc, although that 
would be nice.
What kind of software is it?
I tried installing all sorts of SSH servers on Windows, but wasn't very 
impressed (especially when it comes to the silent installation).


. Techs actually requests installs via the Linux server that holds all 
the installs. Once requested, the server poles to see if a client is 
available for an install. If so, sends the request to it. The PC will 
announce when it _thinks_ it has completed the install back to the 
server so that more packages can be sent :). E-mails the initiating tech 
when all installs are done.
So does it mean that every PC has to be updated manually (i.e., 
installer launched by a tech personnel?).


. This hack of a web interface the techs use will tell them if the PC is 
up, let them search for PCs on different criteria, and show some of the 
info from Aida32. It also lists all the packages so that they can be 
requested.

. Started to make Wake-On-LAN into the mix, but with so many different 
machines and no time to test it did not get very far.

. The aida32 script also checks to see if anything needs to be installed 
using a simple CSV file and if so, requests the updates.

. Status information is forwarded to Jabber just like the old mainframe 
dazs :).
Some parts sound nice; could it be opened as an open source project, or 
perhaps not due to this Aida32 part?
Or perhaps some parts of it?

Tomek
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Re: [Unattended] Unattended Scripts Question

2005-02-15 Thread Eugene Kotlyarov
Stefan Schlesinger wrote:
can anyone tell me what lines like the one below are good for?
Is there a way to automatically download these files?
There is prepare script in install/tools.

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Re: [Unattended] Package management using unattended

2005-02-15 Thread James MacLean
Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:
I've been playing with Unattended for about the same time. Have never 
made a good sell to the service desk folks here. Ghost always wins 
for the initial install.
quite the reverse here :)
I'm still working on them ;) Maybe I need a bigger stick...

b) Are there any suggestions or ideas about good ways to go about it?
We have been using a combination of tools to try to meet our needs. 
It's not pretty at this point. Made up of the following:

. Aida32 run on login daily if possible. It E-mails a .csv to a 
script that sticks in into a directory structure. It gives an 
abundance of PC information and allows you to view it as a 
spreadsheet or, input it into Aida32 and let it sort things out. 
Aida32 was a freeware/closed source application that was (as I 
understand it) sold out to a company and now it is under a new name 
and has costs.

so it's really not a choice for most of us?
Product still works as is. Just not being updated. So it's not 
sustainable, but really great as an example of what might be wanted.

. All installs are wrapped up using ISTool/Inno and saved in a 
directory structure so that they _all_ install with the same command 
line. Service Desk does not need to know how we want WordPerfect 
installed, just that every install is called the same way. This 
competes with the unattended way of having .bat files for everything, 
adds complexity in that all applications have to be wrapped up this 
way, but makes it much easier to have newbies start doing installs.

I'm not familiar with that.
can we wrap installing every application using ISTool/Inno, even those 
that _must_ be clicked through?
Yes. It's just an install tool like NSIS and friends. ISTool is the GUI 
to Inno. http://www.istool.org and http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php. 
I like 'em :), but that is probably because they were the first ones I 
tried to use ;).

. PCs run a homemade server. It spawns and receives command via 
stunnel. An MD5 password hash is used to make sure legitimate techs 
are requesting commands. This service runs as system, so, for 
example, you can send a cmd.exe and start up a system level command 
window. One of the requests is for it to do an install. It takes this 
install requests, finds it on a web server because of the directory 
structure, and runs it. Again, since all installs run the same way... 
:). There is no interface for the user to see in the systray like 
vnc, although that would be nice.
What kind of software is it?
I tried installing all sorts of SSH servers on Windows, but wasn't 
very impressed (especially when it comes to the silent installation).
It too is a silent install :). Yes, it _is_ a cygwin app, but it is a 
very basic program. We run it on Win95/98/2000/xp for about 1200 
machines. No, again, it's not fancy, but fun to see it go ;).


. Techs actually requests installs via the Linux server that holds 
all the installs. Once requested, the server poles to see if a client 
is available for an install. If so, sends the request to it. The PC 
will announce when it _thinks_ it has completed the install back to 
the server so that more packages can be sent :). E-mails the 
initiating tech when all installs are done.
So does it mean that every PC has to be updated manually (i.e., 
installer launched by a tech personnel?).
Dealers choice. Here folks like to select the 10 apps they want 
installed from the web interface and click submit. Then they go away 
while it does it magic :). Also, if a calls comes to the service desk 
requesting an app, they just push it out.

On the other hand, it has primitive autostarting of installs using the 
spreadsheet idea. Key word is primitive :(.

. This hack of a web interface the techs use will tell them if the PC 
is up, let them search for PCs on different criteria, and show some 
of the info from Aida32. It also lists all the packages so that they 
can be requested.

. Started to make Wake-On-LAN into the mix, but with so many 
different machines and no time to test it did not get very far.

. The aida32 script also checks to see if anything needs to be 
installed using a simple CSV file and if so, requests the updates.

. Status information is forwarded to Jabber just like the old 
mainframe dazs :).

Some parts sound nice; could it be opened as an open source project, 
or perhaps not due to this Aida32 part?
Or perhaps some parts of it?

Everything I have can be for whoever wants it. I'd need to delete any 
stray passwords, etc... and again, it would be rough going, but by all 
means, I can pass along things if folks think there is some use for 
them. Maybe if only as an example of what _not_ to do ;).

Jim
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[Unattended] How do i create a BOOT.MSG?

2005-02-15 Thread Stefan Schlesinger
Hello again,
i wanted to change the boot.msg that comes with unattended,
googled the whole www and found...nothing, explored the syslinux
sources a bit ... nothing, searched mailing lists ...nothing, so 
who in the hell knows how to create a boot.msg? ;-)
regards, stefan.
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[Unattended] howto trash xp

2005-02-15 Thread Hugo Monteiro
Hello,

I'd like to know if there's a simple way of trashing a prefectly good
installation of XP, in such a way that in the next boot, if the client
is configured to boot from the lan, it starts a brand new unattended
install.

Thanks in advance,

Hugo Monteiro.


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[Unattended] patch for winxpsp2-supporttools.bat

2005-02-15 Thread Moritz Engel
Hi,

the unattended installation of winxpsp2-supporttools.bat (Unattended v4.6)
does not work. Please commit this:

todo.pl ".reboot-on 194 %Z%\packages\support-tools\winxpsp2-supporttools.exe
/Q /C:\"msiexec.exe /qb 
/l* %SystemDrive%\netinst\logs\suptools.txt /i suptools.msi
REBOOT=ReallySuppress\""

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RE: [Unattended] Sugestion or Request...

2005-02-15 Thread Don Morrison
Thirded? :P

I agree that the placement of the packages (and in my case, scripts also) is
not optimal.  I want to just ping the list with a thought and then I will
devote some more time to this later ... Beware ... May ramble a bit.

I would suggest that we use a site setting/variable so that we can each
determine the placement of our files.  It could be something that maps it
out for each package or just a %PKGIDPATH%.  I think it might be a little
hard to get consensus from everyone on where they should all live, as some
of us with few applications will want a simple/flat structure while others
will want to really break it up.  (I can see that this would get more
valuable as you need to support multiple versions of the same application,
or have fixed deployment 'images' for a specific department.) 

Having said that, I wouldn't want to break any stock functionality in
Unattended.  I could see us leaving things as they are -- so you use the
prepare script to get everything to start, then a rearrange to move it where
you want it ... The complication comes in wanting adobe_reader_package in
/packages/viewers/adobe/... And java in /packages/java/

Hmmm, perhaps this would work -->

Perhaps naming/versioning of packages.  So you would have something like:

:: Install Adobe Reader
:: PKGID|ADBERDR60
::
URL|ENU|http://somedownload.com|packages/adobereader/adberdr60_enu_full.exe

:: OPTIONAL: Install Sun Java Virtual Machine
:: PKGID|SUNJRE5_0_01
:: URL|ALL|http://javadownload.blah|packages/jre1.5.0_01.msi

In the batch files from Unattended and on your site you would have a setting
that says:

DEFAULT|packages/
ADBERDR60|packages/viewers/adobe/
SUNJRE5_0_01|packages/java/

It would add some overhead, but maybe not as much as I am thinking.  If
there were a front-end for this it would be even better, but we are already
stringing together an ungodly amount of scripts to get this truly marvelous
software to work.

I would like to see something like this personally.  Instead of agreeing
where everything should be, let's just agree how everything should be named
and we should be good to go.  In fact, the information could be added
without a *huge* change .. I think.  Heck, given the format above the
prepare script could attempt to find the PKGIDPATH and if there isn't an
entry then it would fallback to default.  Yeah, I can see that working.

On a side note: This addresses the package storage area, but not really the
script storage issues that may arise, Of course, that may bring forth
thoughts of an index of packages & scripts rather than storing it all with
the install directives.  (Although, I am a big fan of atomic configuration
information -- i.e., each install knows what it needs to be performed.)

Thoughts?

Don Morrison

-Original Message-
From: Michael Kahle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:50 PM
To: Unattended List
Subject: [Unattended] Sugestion or Request...

Would it be possible to remove all software from the root of the
unattended/install/packages directory and instead move them to a folder
within the packages directory?

I am not trying to make noise here, but thought that others might have a
similar experience/desire as I do.  I not only use unattended for
"unattended" installations, but also as my software repository on the
network.  If someone wants a particular piece of software installed I simply
map a drive to the unattended server browse to packages and manually install
the package I want.  I also store additional information in the directory
with the package, like documentation on how to do the manual install or
pdf's on how to use the software for other peoples reference.

For example, when running the prepare script it places the java jre in the
root of the packages directory.  I move the install to a folder called
"java" and then put my documentation in the directory with the installer.  I
then go to the scripts directory and modify the script that installs it to
reflect the path to where the software resides.  Now when I update the
scripts from CVS with the "script-update" bash script, it overwrites my
changes and I have to update it all over again.  I realize that I can
exclude whichever files I want to so that I don't break compatibility, but
this is not entirely convenient.

I guess what I am suggesting is some standard structure that we could use
with unattended that would clean up the packages and updates directory that
makes better sense.  Perhaps even separating the packages sub directories
into something like:
/unattended/
/packages/
/commercial
/office2003
/notes
/java
/opensource
/openoffice
/pdfcreator
/freeware
/winimage
/winzip
/updates
/ie6sp1
/directx9

Humm... Looking at the above, separating packages into opensource, freeware,
commercial is kind of

Re: [Unattended] Sugestion or Request...

2005-02-15 Thread Niels S. Richthof
Hi Michael!

> Would it be possible to remove all software from the root of the
> unattended/install/packages directory and instead move them to a
> folder within the packages directory?

As a matter of principle I would agree with you.


> Now when I update the scripts from CVS with the "script-update" bash
> script, it overwrites my changes and I have to update it all over
> again.  I realize that I can exclude whichever files I want to so that
> I don't break compatibility, but this is not entirely convenient.

You can try not to use this script but to checkout the script
directory via anonymous cvs and make a `cvs update´ from time to
time. This merges our changes into your changes.

Maybe this is better for you.

> suggesting is some standard structure

well, this is the problem: there are many good approaches. We, for
example, have adopted the gentoo-way:

app-arch
app-cdr
app-crypt
app-editors
app-misc
app-office
...
dev-db
dev-java
dev-misc
...
games
media-gfx
media-misc
...
net-dialup
net-dns
net-im
net-mail
net-misc
...
sci-misc
sys-apps
sys-driver
sys-os
sys-util

and so on.

But: how do we find the best way? How to agree on a specific way?

> Am I the only one that sees this as something worth doing?

Definitely not!

But in my eyes, it would be enough to remove the packages from the
packages-dir into appropriate sub-dirs (like 7-Zip, JRE etc.)


cu
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Re: [Unattended] howto trash xp

2005-02-15 Thread Maurice Massar
hi,

On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 05:13:05PM +, Hugo Monteiro wrote:
> I'd like to know if there's a simple way of trashing a prefectly good
> installation of XP, in such a way that in the next boot, if the client
> is configured to boot from the lan, it starts a brand new unattended
> install.

I would guess, to make the disk unbootable in a way the bios can
recognize, means overwriting the last to bytes of the MBR which should
be 0x55 0xAA with something else. For simplicity for example overwriting
the whole MBR. If running linux that would be:
# dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/hda

but I do not know how to do this with xp. does someone else know?

cu
maurice


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Re: [Unattended] howto trash xp

2005-02-15 Thread Stefan Kell
Hi,

take a look at the source for RAWRITENT.EXE. It is included in Slackware
("http://www.slackware.com";), a wellknown Linux-distribution, and you
probably only have to change the check that a removable drive is the
target.

But I think that you have to be administrator on that machine and most
antivirus programms should disable these writes to the MBR.

Regards

Stefan Kell

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Maurice Massar wrote:

> hi,
>
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 05:13:05PM +, Hugo Monteiro wrote:
> > I'd like to know if there's a simple way of trashing a prefectly good
> > installation of XP, in such a way that in the next boot, if the client
> > is configured to boot from the lan, it starts a brand new unattended
> > install.
>
> I would guess, to make the disk unbootable in a way the bios can
> recognize, means overwriting the last to bytes of the MBR which should
> be 0x55 0xAA with something else. For simplicity for example overwriting
> the whole MBR. If running linux that would be:
> # dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/hda
>
> but I do not know how to do this with xp. does someone else know?
>
> cu
> maurice
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Re: [Unattended] howto trash xp

2005-02-15 Thread Matt_Fries

If I understand right, you want the boot to hard disk to fail, and then the machine should try to boot from the network?

Hmm... Maybe it might be possible to write the boot sector of the hard disk with the Intel boot agent image, so it actually DOES boot from the hard disk, but starts up the PXE code anyway. 

Or maybe a little bit of code that just jumps to the rom address for the network card.

This is all hypothetical, and it might not even work for non-Intel based NICs. 

Also, there is that boot disk image that I love talking about, that allows you to boot from a cd-rom drive, even if your bios doesn't support it. That might help if your installation is on CD. (It might also have an option for network boot in it, it's been a while).



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hi,

On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 05:13:05PM +, Hugo Monteiro wrote:
> I'd like to know if there's a simple way of trashing a prefectly good
> installation of XP, in such a way that in the next boot, if the client
> is configured to boot from the lan, it starts a brand new unattended
> install.

I would guess, to make the disk unbootable in a way the bios can
recognize, means overwriting the last to bytes of the MBR which should
be 0x55 0xAA with something else. For simplicity for example overwriting
the whole MBR. If running linux that would be:
# dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/hda

but I do not know how to do this with xp. does someone else know?

cu
maurice


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Re: [Unattended] howto trash xp

2005-02-15 Thread Felipe Navarrete
In win95 and probably 98 you could do:
   fdisk /mbr
on the command line
XP not sure.

Maurice Massar wrote:
hi,
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 05:13:05PM +, Hugo Monteiro wrote:
 

I'd like to know if there's a simple way of trashing a prefectly good
installation of XP, in such a way that in the next boot, if the client
is configured to boot from the lan, it starts a brand new unattended
install.
   

I would guess, to make the disk unbootable in a way the bios can
recognize, means overwriting the last to bytes of the MBR which should
be 0x55 0xAA with something else. For simplicity for example overwriting
the whole MBR. If running linux that would be:
# dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/hda
but I do not know how to do this with xp. does someone else know?
cu
maurice
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Re: [Unattended] howto trash xp

2005-02-15 Thread Stefan Kell
Hello,

this does not trash the mbr but installs the default bootsector for
windows. After this the disk will definitely boot.

Regards

Stefan Kell

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Felipe Navarrete wrote:

> In win95 and probably 98 you could do:
>
> fdisk /mbr
>
> on the command line
>
>
> XP not sure.
>
>
>
> Maurice Massar wrote:
>
> >hi,
> >
> >On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 05:13:05PM +, Hugo Monteiro wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I'd like to know if there's a simple way of trashing a prefectly good
> >>installation of XP, in such a way that in the next boot, if the client
> >>is configured to boot from the lan, it starts a brand new unattended
> >>install.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I would guess, to make the disk unbootable in a way the bios can
> >recognize, means overwriting the last to bytes of the MBR which should
> >be 0x55 0xAA with something else. For simplicity for example overwriting
> >the whole MBR. If running linux that would be:
> ># dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/hda
> >
> >but I do not know how to do this with xp. does someone else know?
> >
> >cu
> >maurice
> >
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Re: [Unattended] howto trash xp

2005-02-15 Thread Felipe Navarrete
Your right it will just boot to a default
I thought it just erased it. True :)

Stefan Kell wrote:
Hello,
this does not trash the mbr but installs the default bootsector for
windows. After this the disk will definitely boot.
Regards
Stefan Kell
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Felipe Navarrete wrote:
 

In win95 and probably 98 you could do:
   fdisk /mbr
on the command line
XP not sure.

Maurice Massar wrote:
   

hi,
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 05:13:05PM +, Hugo Monteiro wrote:
 

I'd like to know if there's a simple way of trashing a prefectly good
installation of XP, in such a way that in the next boot, if the client
is configured to boot from the lan, it starts a brand new unattended
install.
   

I would guess, to make the disk unbootable in a way the bios can
recognize, means overwriting the last to bytes of the MBR which should
be 0x55 0xAA with something else. For simplicity for example overwriting
the whole MBR. If running linux that would be:
# dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/hda
but I do not know how to do this with xp. does someone else know?
cu
maurice
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Re: [Unattended] How do i create a BOOT.MSG?

2005-02-15 Thread Jordan Share
Stefan Schlesinger wrote:
Hello again,
i wanted to change the boot.msg that comes with unattended,
googled the whole www and found...nothing, explored the syslinux
sources a bit ... nothing, searched mailing lists ...nothing, so 
who in the hell knows how to create a boot.msg? ;-)
http://syslinux.zytor.com/faq.php#format
Is that what you are looking for?
Jordan
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