Re: [Unattended] Linux boot disk
Eugene Kotlyarov wrote: Stefan Schlesinger wrote: where do i get the sources of the linux boot disk from? I read there should be a makefile that'll regenerate the ISO if I had to do any changes. Couldn't find it so far You have to get it from CVS http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=62053 Hello Eugene, thanks for your reply. Got the CVS sources. As I understand the concept, first of all I must 'make download' to download the sources of addidional software needed to compile the ISO. Then I can change stuff to fit my needs. Afterwards I need to run 'make iso' and 'make tftpboot' or copy the new ISO to the tftp server's root by hand. To update to the most rescent version of the bootdisk in the future, I'll just need to recompile it like described above... yours sincerely, stefan. -- Stefan Schlesinger --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info
Re: [Unattended] Package management using unattended
I think it's better if software is installed in a background (like WPKG does) - if something fails, user doesn't see it and can work normally - it's crucial if you manage a bunch of servers and clients remotely and have no physical access to them. I agree. Please - does anyone out there have an autoit script which works in the background? That's the only thing which has forced me to abandon WPKG I think it's doable as long as you program it to use keys and not mouse; but I am probably wrong, as it simulates real keystrokes and real mouse moves, so everything happens on the real screen, not on this "virtual" background one. Perhaps a question posted to AutoIt mailing list would bring a definitive answer if it's possible or not? Sorry for answering only this one, I will answer the rest later today :) Tomek --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info
[Unattended] Unattended Scripts Question
Hello folks, can anyone tell me what lines like the one below are good for? Is there a way to automatically download these files? ::URL|ALL|http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/flash/english/win95nt/ \ 7.0.19.0/flashplayer7installer.exe|packages/macromedia/flashplayer7installer.exe yours sincerely, stefan. -- Stefan Schlesinger --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info
Re: [Unattended] Package management using unattended
a) installable silently when doing unattended install (preferably in windows_installer.bat file to hide username and password when doing unattended install): windows_installer --silent --server 192.168.1.1 --user john --pass password Currently I'm storing the values in the registry and changing the access rights so that only System can read them (Might need to add Administrator to that too). I meant the Unattended installing part - it prints out every command to the screen, so in order to hide passwords etc., one has to use a .bat file instead of plain commands and arguments. b) runs on Windows in the background, connects to the server using SSL (to secure username and password) when booting, and fetches the instructions, sends software installed etc. I've not considered the need to use SSL at this stage. (And I'm not sure that I've configured MySQL to use that correctly yet either - but I will, one day.) I agree that functionality first, then we add security. This is how you configure complicated things - add one feature and see if it works, then add another and so on. But this would be neat to have some security in the end, as probably some of us wouldn't want some smart students/users stealing our installer versions, operating system, which are protected by law etc. etc. c) server part as a dameon (on Linux, as most of use run Samba I think): - configurable via https web interface Time to confess - I've never done anything using https. My inclination would be to 'get it working' using http and then hope that someone else would be inclined to help me convert to https. (Although as I write this I realise that there's someone thinking 'but it's sooo easy! You just do and there it is.') As long as it uses Apache as a http server (using which we would make changes to the configuration files), it's not a problem to add https. Unless the daemon listens on its own port like Webmin does for example. - report which software which client has installed (and what is to be installed) I think I'm coming at it from the other (wrong?) way - the client finds out what it has and what it *should* have and then tries to make the lists the same. I like the idea of the server being able to do the same calculation and "predict" what the client should be doing, though. It's not that hard, it can be done with WPKG even now. WPKG keeps the track of the software installed on a given machine in C:\winnt\system32\wpkg.xml After WPKG runs, it's possible to upload this file to the server with a name of a host that uploads this file. - "install" button to install/uninstall/upgrade the missing software now For users? Sounds attractive. I've been thinking about having a web interface which would allow users to select applications for which we have a site license or are freeware and allowing them to choose which of those packages are installed on their desktop. Or to remove packages they don't like. (I have one user who swears by virtual desktops. I have others who swear *at* virtual desktops...) I was thinking of admin rather than the user. If admin configures some new software, he could just compare the state "what's missing", press "Install" button, and immediately see the result if it installs or not - if software installs on system boot only, then the admin can wait a couple of days until he installs something. We all know how hard it is to do some tasks on Windows silently (especially installing software - how much time did you waste on that?), so this would be a nice feature. Users tend to be not familiar with software/hardware/computers etc., so everything should work flawlessly for them (the less telephone calls and emails the better). But hey, why not give some of them some degree of independence (provided they can install only what we allow them). - configure to install software on Winodws boot I'd been thinking of installing software on the next boot always, but I can see that this would cause problems when, for example, a user has to reboot in the middle of work because Windows Update has just installed lots of stuff and only then remembers that he asked for to be installed on his machine at the next boot. And takes ages to install... Windows Update can be configured not to reboot automatically, so can most of the software I think. - configurable to install software from a password protected file server / ftp / http etc. Don't immediately see how easy it would be to implement installations from ftp / http servers. Password protected samba servers would probably cover a high-enough percentage of uses for the time being, I hope. Provided there is some kind of wget for Windows, it shouldn't be that hard. I agree, ftp / http would be an extra feature developed later. But I can imagine it very usable: a company has its branch offices in the whole country, two employees in each office, so it wouldn't pay to provide an extra file server for just two computers - I kn
Re: [Unattended] Package management using unattended
I've been playing with Unattended for about the same time. Have never made a good sell to the service desk folks here. Ghost always wins for the initial install. quite the reverse here :) b) Are there any suggestions or ideas about good ways to go about it? We have been using a combination of tools to try to meet our needs. It's not pretty at this point. Made up of the following: . Aida32 run on login daily if possible. It E-mails a .csv to a script that sticks in into a directory structure. It gives an abundance of PC information and allows you to view it as a spreadsheet or, input it into Aida32 and let it sort things out. Aida32 was a freeware/closed source application that was (as I understand it) sold out to a company and now it is under a new name and has costs. so it's really not a choice for most of us? . All installs are wrapped up using ISTool/Inno and saved in a directory structure so that they _all_ install with the same command line. Service Desk does not need to know how we want WordPerfect installed, just that every install is called the same way. This competes with the unattended way of having .bat files for everything, adds complexity in that all applications have to be wrapped up this way, but makes it much easier to have newbies start doing installs. I'm not familiar with that. can we wrap installing every application using ISTool/Inno, even those that _must_ be clicked through? . PCs run a homemade server. It spawns and receives command via stunnel. An MD5 password hash is used to make sure legitimate techs are requesting commands. This service runs as system, so, for example, you can send a cmd.exe and start up a system level command window. One of the requests is for it to do an install. It takes this install requests, finds it on a web server because of the directory structure, and runs it. Again, since all installs run the same way... :). There is no interface for the user to see in the systray like vnc, although that would be nice. What kind of software is it? I tried installing all sorts of SSH servers on Windows, but wasn't very impressed (especially when it comes to the silent installation). . Techs actually requests installs via the Linux server that holds all the installs. Once requested, the server poles to see if a client is available for an install. If so, sends the request to it. The PC will announce when it _thinks_ it has completed the install back to the server so that more packages can be sent :). E-mails the initiating tech when all installs are done. So does it mean that every PC has to be updated manually (i.e., installer launched by a tech personnel?). . This hack of a web interface the techs use will tell them if the PC is up, let them search for PCs on different criteria, and show some of the info from Aida32. It also lists all the packages so that they can be requested. . Started to make Wake-On-LAN into the mix, but with so many different machines and no time to test it did not get very far. . The aida32 script also checks to see if anything needs to be installed using a simple CSV file and if so, requests the updates. . Status information is forwarded to Jabber just like the old mainframe dazs :). Some parts sound nice; could it be opened as an open source project, or perhaps not due to this Aida32 part? Or perhaps some parts of it? Tomek --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info
Re: [Unattended] Unattended Scripts Question
Stefan Schlesinger wrote: can anyone tell me what lines like the one below are good for? Is there a way to automatically download these files? There is prepare script in install/tools. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info
Re: [Unattended] Package management using unattended
Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: I've been playing with Unattended for about the same time. Have never made a good sell to the service desk folks here. Ghost always wins for the initial install. quite the reverse here :) I'm still working on them ;) Maybe I need a bigger stick... b) Are there any suggestions or ideas about good ways to go about it? We have been using a combination of tools to try to meet our needs. It's not pretty at this point. Made up of the following: . Aida32 run on login daily if possible. It E-mails a .csv to a script that sticks in into a directory structure. It gives an abundance of PC information and allows you to view it as a spreadsheet or, input it into Aida32 and let it sort things out. Aida32 was a freeware/closed source application that was (as I understand it) sold out to a company and now it is under a new name and has costs. so it's really not a choice for most of us? Product still works as is. Just not being updated. So it's not sustainable, but really great as an example of what might be wanted. . All installs are wrapped up using ISTool/Inno and saved in a directory structure so that they _all_ install with the same command line. Service Desk does not need to know how we want WordPerfect installed, just that every install is called the same way. This competes with the unattended way of having .bat files for everything, adds complexity in that all applications have to be wrapped up this way, but makes it much easier to have newbies start doing installs. I'm not familiar with that. can we wrap installing every application using ISTool/Inno, even those that _must_ be clicked through? Yes. It's just an install tool like NSIS and friends. ISTool is the GUI to Inno. http://www.istool.org and http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php. I like 'em :), but that is probably because they were the first ones I tried to use ;). . PCs run a homemade server. It spawns and receives command via stunnel. An MD5 password hash is used to make sure legitimate techs are requesting commands. This service runs as system, so, for example, you can send a cmd.exe and start up a system level command window. One of the requests is for it to do an install. It takes this install requests, finds it on a web server because of the directory structure, and runs it. Again, since all installs run the same way... :). There is no interface for the user to see in the systray like vnc, although that would be nice. What kind of software is it? I tried installing all sorts of SSH servers on Windows, but wasn't very impressed (especially when it comes to the silent installation). It too is a silent install :). Yes, it _is_ a cygwin app, but it is a very basic program. We run it on Win95/98/2000/xp for about 1200 machines. No, again, it's not fancy, but fun to see it go ;). . Techs actually requests installs via the Linux server that holds all the installs. Once requested, the server poles to see if a client is available for an install. If so, sends the request to it. The PC will announce when it _thinks_ it has completed the install back to the server so that more packages can be sent :). E-mails the initiating tech when all installs are done. So does it mean that every PC has to be updated manually (i.e., installer launched by a tech personnel?). Dealers choice. Here folks like to select the 10 apps they want installed from the web interface and click submit. Then they go away while it does it magic :). Also, if a calls comes to the service desk requesting an app, they just push it out. On the other hand, it has primitive autostarting of installs using the spreadsheet idea. Key word is primitive :(. . This hack of a web interface the techs use will tell them if the PC is up, let them search for PCs on different criteria, and show some of the info from Aida32. It also lists all the packages so that they can be requested. . Started to make Wake-On-LAN into the mix, but with so many different machines and no time to test it did not get very far. . The aida32 script also checks to see if anything needs to be installed using a simple CSV file and if so, requests the updates. . Status information is forwarded to Jabber just like the old mainframe dazs :). Some parts sound nice; could it be opened as an open source project, or perhaps not due to this Aida32 part? Or perhaps some parts of it? Everything I have can be for whoever wants it. I'd need to delete any stray passwords, etc... and again, it would be rough going, but by all means, I can pass along things if folks think there is some use for them. Maybe if only as an example of what _not_ to do ;). Jim begin:vcard fn:James B MacLean n:MacLean;James B org:Education;ITS Technical Services adr:;;;Halifax;NS;;Canada email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] url:http://www.ednet.ns.ca/~macleajb version:2.1 end:vcard
[Unattended] How do i create a BOOT.MSG?
Hello again, i wanted to change the boot.msg that comes with unattended, googled the whole www and found...nothing, explored the syslinux sources a bit ... nothing, searched mailing lists ...nothing, so who in the hell knows how to create a boot.msg? ;-) regards, stefan. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info
[Unattended] howto trash xp
Hello, I'd like to know if there's a simple way of trashing a prefectly good installation of XP, in such a way that in the next boot, if the client is configured to boot from the lan, it starts a brand new unattended install. Thanks in advance, Hugo Monteiro. -- javali:~# cat .signature Hugo Monteiro Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefone : +351 916993183 JavaLi - ADSI, Lda. Madan Parque Edifício VI Campus da FCT/UNL Quinta da Torre 2829-516 Caparica Portugal Telefone: +351 212949666 Fax: +351 212948313 www.javali.pt [EMAIL PROTECTED] javali:~# _ --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info
[Unattended] patch for winxpsp2-supporttools.bat
Hi, the unattended installation of winxpsp2-supporttools.bat (Unattended v4.6) does not work. Please commit this: todo.pl ".reboot-on 194 %Z%\packages\support-tools\winxpsp2-supporttools.exe /Q /C:\"msiexec.exe /qb /l* %SystemDrive%\netinst\logs\suptools.txt /i suptools.msi REBOOT=ReallySuppress\"" Thanks -- Moritz --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info
RE: [Unattended] Sugestion or Request...
Thirded? :P I agree that the placement of the packages (and in my case, scripts also) is not optimal. I want to just ping the list with a thought and then I will devote some more time to this later ... Beware ... May ramble a bit. I would suggest that we use a site setting/variable so that we can each determine the placement of our files. It could be something that maps it out for each package or just a %PKGIDPATH%. I think it might be a little hard to get consensus from everyone on where they should all live, as some of us with few applications will want a simple/flat structure while others will want to really break it up. (I can see that this would get more valuable as you need to support multiple versions of the same application, or have fixed deployment 'images' for a specific department.) Having said that, I wouldn't want to break any stock functionality in Unattended. I could see us leaving things as they are -- so you use the prepare script to get everything to start, then a rearrange to move it where you want it ... The complication comes in wanting adobe_reader_package in /packages/viewers/adobe/... And java in /packages/java/ Hmmm, perhaps this would work --> Perhaps naming/versioning of packages. So you would have something like: :: Install Adobe Reader :: PKGID|ADBERDR60 :: URL|ENU|http://somedownload.com|packages/adobereader/adberdr60_enu_full.exe :: OPTIONAL: Install Sun Java Virtual Machine :: PKGID|SUNJRE5_0_01 :: URL|ALL|http://javadownload.blah|packages/jre1.5.0_01.msi In the batch files from Unattended and on your site you would have a setting that says: DEFAULT|packages/ ADBERDR60|packages/viewers/adobe/ SUNJRE5_0_01|packages/java/ It would add some overhead, but maybe not as much as I am thinking. If there were a front-end for this it would be even better, but we are already stringing together an ungodly amount of scripts to get this truly marvelous software to work. I would like to see something like this personally. Instead of agreeing where everything should be, let's just agree how everything should be named and we should be good to go. In fact, the information could be added without a *huge* change .. I think. Heck, given the format above the prepare script could attempt to find the PKGIDPATH and if there isn't an entry then it would fallback to default. Yeah, I can see that working. On a side note: This addresses the package storage area, but not really the script storage issues that may arise, Of course, that may bring forth thoughts of an index of packages & scripts rather than storing it all with the install directives. (Although, I am a big fan of atomic configuration information -- i.e., each install knows what it needs to be performed.) Thoughts? Don Morrison -Original Message- From: Michael Kahle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:50 PM To: Unattended List Subject: [Unattended] Sugestion or Request... Would it be possible to remove all software from the root of the unattended/install/packages directory and instead move them to a folder within the packages directory? I am not trying to make noise here, but thought that others might have a similar experience/desire as I do. I not only use unattended for "unattended" installations, but also as my software repository on the network. If someone wants a particular piece of software installed I simply map a drive to the unattended server browse to packages and manually install the package I want. I also store additional information in the directory with the package, like documentation on how to do the manual install or pdf's on how to use the software for other peoples reference. For example, when running the prepare script it places the java jre in the root of the packages directory. I move the install to a folder called "java" and then put my documentation in the directory with the installer. I then go to the scripts directory and modify the script that installs it to reflect the path to where the software resides. Now when I update the scripts from CVS with the "script-update" bash script, it overwrites my changes and I have to update it all over again. I realize that I can exclude whichever files I want to so that I don't break compatibility, but this is not entirely convenient. I guess what I am suggesting is some standard structure that we could use with unattended that would clean up the packages and updates directory that makes better sense. Perhaps even separating the packages sub directories into something like: /unattended/ /packages/ /commercial /office2003 /notes /java /opensource /openoffice /pdfcreator /freeware /winimage /winzip /updates /ie6sp1 /directx9 Humm... Looking at the above, separating packages into opensource, freeware, commercial is kind of
Re: [Unattended] Sugestion or Request...
Hi Michael! > Would it be possible to remove all software from the root of the > unattended/install/packages directory and instead move them to a > folder within the packages directory? As a matter of principle I would agree with you. > Now when I update the scripts from CVS with the "script-update" bash > script, it overwrites my changes and I have to update it all over > again. I realize that I can exclude whichever files I want to so that > I don't break compatibility, but this is not entirely convenient. You can try not to use this script but to checkout the script directory via anonymous cvs and make a `cvs update´ from time to time. This merges our changes into your changes. Maybe this is better for you. > suggesting is some standard structure well, this is the problem: there are many good approaches. We, for example, have adopted the gentoo-way: app-arch app-cdr app-crypt app-editors app-misc app-office ... dev-db dev-java dev-misc ... games media-gfx media-misc ... net-dialup net-dns net-im net-mail net-misc ... sci-misc sys-apps sys-driver sys-os sys-util and so on. But: how do we find the best way? How to agree on a specific way? > Am I the only one that sees this as something worth doing? Definitely not! But in my eyes, it would be enough to remove the packages from the packages-dir into appropriate sub-dirs (like 7-Zip, JRE etc.) cu Niels -- A: Weil es die Lesbarkeit des Textes verschlechtert. F: Warum ist TOFU so schlimm? A: TOFU F: Was ist eins der groesste Aergernisse in E-Mails? --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95&alloc_id396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info
Re: [Unattended] howto trash xp
hi, On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 05:13:05PM +, Hugo Monteiro wrote: > I'd like to know if there's a simple way of trashing a prefectly good > installation of XP, in such a way that in the next boot, if the client > is configured to boot from the lan, it starts a brand new unattended > install. I would guess, to make the disk unbootable in a way the bios can recognize, means overwriting the last to bytes of the MBR which should be 0x55 0xAA with something else. For simplicity for example overwriting the whole MBR. If running linux that would be: # dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/hda but I do not know how to do this with xp. does someone else know? cu maurice --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info
Re: [Unattended] howto trash xp
Hi, take a look at the source for RAWRITENT.EXE. It is included in Slackware ("http://www.slackware.com";), a wellknown Linux-distribution, and you probably only have to change the check that a removable drive is the target. But I think that you have to be administrator on that machine and most antivirus programms should disable these writes to the MBR. Regards Stefan Kell On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Maurice Massar wrote: > hi, > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 05:13:05PM +, Hugo Monteiro wrote: > > I'd like to know if there's a simple way of trashing a prefectly good > > installation of XP, in such a way that in the next boot, if the client > > is configured to boot from the lan, it starts a brand new unattended > > install. > > I would guess, to make the disk unbootable in a way the bios can > recognize, means overwriting the last to bytes of the MBR which should > be 0x55 0xAA with something else. For simplicity for example overwriting > the whole MBR. If running linux that would be: > # dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/hda > > but I do not know how to do this with xp. does someone else know? > > cu > maurice > > > --- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > ___ > unattended-info mailing list > unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info > --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info
Re: [Unattended] howto trash xp
If I understand right, you want the boot to hard disk to fail, and then the machine should try to boot from the network? Hmm... Maybe it might be possible to write the boot sector of the hard disk with the Intel boot agent image, so it actually DOES boot from the hard disk, but starts up the PXE code anyway. Or maybe a little bit of code that just jumps to the rom address for the network card. This is all hypothetical, and it might not even work for non-Intel based NICs. Also, there is that boot disk image that I love talking about, that allows you to boot from a cd-rom drive, even if your bios doesn't support it. That might help if your installation is on CD. (It might also have an option for network boot in it, it's been a while). BTW: I'm on list. - Forwarded by Matt Fries/cbca on 02/15/2005 02:41 PM - Maurice Massar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/15/2005 02:24 PM To: unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net cc: Subject: Re: [Unattended] howto trash xp hi, On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 05:13:05PM +, Hugo Monteiro wrote: > I'd like to know if there's a simple way of trashing a prefectly good > installation of XP, in such a way that in the next boot, if the client > is configured to boot from the lan, it starts a brand new unattended > install. I would guess, to make the disk unbootable in a way the bios can recognize, means overwriting the last to bytes of the MBR which should be 0x55 0xAA with something else. For simplicity for example overwriting the whole MBR. If running linux that would be: # dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/hda but I do not know how to do this with xp. does someone else know? cu maurice --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info NOTICE: The information contained in this email message, and any attachments accompanying this transmission, may be legally privileged and/or confidential and protected health information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity identified above. The authorized recipient of this information is prohibited from disclosing this information to any other party unless required to do so by law or regulation and is required to protect the information after its stated need has been fulfilled. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, printing, copying, forwarding, or distributing of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately, by telephone or return email, to advise of wrongful receipt and confirm your understa nding of this Notice. Thank You.
Re: [Unattended] howto trash xp
In win95 and probably 98 you could do: fdisk /mbr on the command line XP not sure. Maurice Massar wrote: hi, On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 05:13:05PM +, Hugo Monteiro wrote: I'd like to know if there's a simple way of trashing a prefectly good installation of XP, in such a way that in the next boot, if the client is configured to boot from the lan, it starts a brand new unattended install. I would guess, to make the disk unbootable in a way the bios can recognize, means overwriting the last to bytes of the MBR which should be 0x55 0xAA with something else. For simplicity for example overwriting the whole MBR. If running linux that would be: # dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/hda but I do not know how to do this with xp. does someone else know? cu maurice --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info
Re: [Unattended] howto trash xp
Hello, this does not trash the mbr but installs the default bootsector for windows. After this the disk will definitely boot. Regards Stefan Kell On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Felipe Navarrete wrote: > In win95 and probably 98 you could do: > > fdisk /mbr > > on the command line > > > XP not sure. > > > > Maurice Massar wrote: > > >hi, > > > >On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 05:13:05PM +, Hugo Monteiro wrote: > > > > > >>I'd like to know if there's a simple way of trashing a prefectly good > >>installation of XP, in such a way that in the next boot, if the client > >>is configured to boot from the lan, it starts a brand new unattended > >>install. > >> > >> > > > >I would guess, to make the disk unbootable in a way the bios can > >recognize, means overwriting the last to bytes of the MBR which should > >be 0x55 0xAA with something else. For simplicity for example overwriting > >the whole MBR. If running linux that would be: > ># dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/hda > > > >but I do not know how to do this with xp. does someone else know? > > > >cu > >maurice > > > > > >--- > >SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > >Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > >Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > >___ > >unattended-info mailing list > >unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info > > > > > > > > --- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > ___ > unattended-info mailing list > unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info > --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info
Re: [Unattended] howto trash xp
Your right it will just boot to a default I thought it just erased it. True :) Stefan Kell wrote: Hello, this does not trash the mbr but installs the default bootsector for windows. After this the disk will definitely boot. Regards Stefan Kell On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Felipe Navarrete wrote: In win95 and probably 98 you could do: fdisk /mbr on the command line XP not sure. Maurice Massar wrote: hi, On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 05:13:05PM +, Hugo Monteiro wrote: I'd like to know if there's a simple way of trashing a prefectly good installation of XP, in such a way that in the next boot, if the client is configured to boot from the lan, it starts a brand new unattended install. I would guess, to make the disk unbootable in a way the bios can recognize, means overwriting the last to bytes of the MBR which should be 0x55 0xAA with something else. For simplicity for example overwriting the whole MBR. If running linux that would be: # dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/hda but I do not know how to do this with xp. does someone else know? cu maurice --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info
Re: [Unattended] How do i create a BOOT.MSG?
Stefan Schlesinger wrote: Hello again, i wanted to change the boot.msg that comes with unattended, googled the whole www and found...nothing, explored the syslinux sources a bit ... nothing, searched mailing lists ...nothing, so who in the hell knows how to create a boot.msg? ;-) http://syslinux.zytor.com/faq.php#format Is that what you are looking for? Jordan --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ unattended-info mailing list unattended-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/unattended-info