[Unattended] RE: Scanning OS for device drivers

[Mangano, Aron]

Pat as always you are right on the ball

My OEMPnpDriversPath value was way over this limit at about 2500 characters.
The problem is that I have so many different types of hardware here. Dell,
Gateway, Compac, IBM, and other clone machines. Nics include Broadcom,
Intel, Marvel, 3com, realtek, etc. Also have various audio cards and video
drivers lol

I managed to trim it down and lot and it worked great !!! Thanks again m8

The good thing is that from last month our company is now only purchasing
Dell hardware so the problem for me will go away a little although it
doesn't help with rebuilds etc.

Aron Mangano
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From: Patrick J. LoPresti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2004 12:39 AM
To: Mangano, Aron
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '
Subject: Re: Scanning OS for device drivers

"Mangano, Aron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>  Thanks Pat
> 
> I am using Windows XP and according to that link:
> 
> "In Microsoft Windows XP, the maximum length of the OEMPnpDriversPath 
> value is 4,096 characters."

It (http://support.microsoft.com/?id=312535) also says:

  "When you use Winnt.exe, the OEMPnpDriversPath value is limited to
   1,024 characters."

And we definitely use winnt.exe :-).

 - Pat


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[Unattended] RE: Scanning OS for device drivers

[Mangano, Aron]

 Thanks Pat

I am using Windows XP and according to that link:

"In Microsoft Windows XP, the maximum length of the OEMPnpDriversPath value
is 4,096 characters."

I am not at work at the moment so I cannot see how long the path is but I
will check it out tomorrow.

Thanks for the feedback as always.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick J. LoPresti
To: Mangano, Aron
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 9/7/2004 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning OS for device drivers

"Mangano, Aron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well, I have a lot of drivers that appear and I only select the ones
> that I need.

I assume if you manually "select all" of the drivers it fails in the
same way?  (Otherwise, we have a very strange bug.)

Perhaps you are running into the 1024-character limit on
OemPnPDriversPath (http://support.microsoft.com/?id=312535).  You can
check this by examining the value of OemPnPDriversPath in the
generated C:\netinst\unattend.txt file for a failing install.

> When however, I do the auto method by enabaling the section at the
> bottom of the config.pl file, the sound and lan drivers will simply
> not install. They used to though ???

This would happen if OemPnPDriversPath were too long and the lan and
sound drivers were toward the end of it.

If this is the problem, you can either start renaming things to make
each element of OemPnPDriversPath shorter, or you can write config.pl
code to select the correct subset of drivers automatically, or you can
live with selecting the drivers by hand.  This is, unfortunately, a
Microsoft limitation, so there is not much we can do about it.

 - Pat


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[Unattended] RE: Scanning OS for device drivers

[Mangano, Aron]

Pat

Well, I have a lot of drivers that appear and I only select the ones that I
need. Example in the network driver section I have the option to tick intel,
3com, Broadcom, marvel etc. In this case as it was an intel, I chose the
intel driver. Same goes for the video, sound, etc.

If I do it manually like this all of the drivers install. 

When however, I do the auto method by enabaling the section at the bottom of
the config.pl file, the sound and lan drivers will simply not install. They
used to though ???

The code I am using is the stock standard one that is in your config.pl
file.

Many thanks


Aron Mangano
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-Original Message-
From: Patrick J. LoPresti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 6 September 2004 11:12 PM
To: Mangano, Aron
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Scanning OS for device drivers

"Mangano, Aron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>  I am having a few issues when using config.pl in the site folder to  
> automatically scan for device drivers.

What code are you using, exactly?

>  I have a structure as follows:
>  
>  In the drivers directory I have folders for Chipset, Storage, Video,  
> Lan, Sound etc etc.
>  With the auto method the Lan and Sound drivers will simply not install.
>  
>  If I comment out the section in config.pl and the choose the drivers  
> manually they work fine

When you say "choose the drivers manually", what do you mean, exactly?
You press (2) to "select all", or something else?

 - Pat


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[Unattended] Scanning OS for device drivers

[Mangano, Aron]

Pat and others

* I sent this email on the 31st August, can anyone help me? *
 
 I am having a few issues when using config.pl in the site folder to 
 automatically scan for device drivers.
 
 I have a structure as follows:
 
 In the drivers directory I have folders for Chipset, Storage, Video, 
 Lan, Sound etc etc.
 With the auto method the Lan and Sound drivers will simply not install.
 
 If I comment out the section in config.pl and the choose the drivers 
 manually they work fine
 The video and chipset etc install fine by the way...its very strange...
 
 In this instance it is simply an Intel Pro Lan driver so I know it 
 should work.
 
 Any ideas?

Aron Mangano
IT Support - Australia West
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RE: [Unattended] Network Card Problem

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 Pat

Thanks for the quick response. I am not at work again until tommorow but
before I go in and try your suggestions out, a few more things.

Yes, I am 99% sure I am using the latest linux cd. When you say "After the
failure, try running:

  udhcpc --interface=eth0 --now --script=/etc/udhcpc-script"

what will this actually do?

Finally, when you say try it with "acpi=off", what do you mean exactly, ie
where do I need to change this option.

Many thanks in advance as usual.




-Original Message-
From: Patrick J. LoPresti
To: Mangano, Aron
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sent: 17/07/2004 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Unattended] Network Card Problem

"Mangano, Aron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Pat and others
> 
> I am having a problem with the linux boot cd on a new Dell Laptop. It
is an
> Inspiron 5150. It has an onboard Broadcom 4400 10/100 Network Card. My
> problem is this, when I boot off the cd it discovers the card fine but
then
> it says:
> 
> B44: eth0 link is down
> Debug, sending discover
> B44: eth0: link is up at 100Mbps, full duplex
> B44: eth0: flow control is off for TX and off for RX.
> 
> It then trys to get a DHCP address but fails with info, no lease,
> failing, DHCP on eth0 failed. Giving up

It should retry the DHCP operation for around 10 seconds...  Maybe
that is not long enough.

After the failure, try running:

  udhcpc --interface=eth0 --now --script=/etc/udhcpc-script

> I am pulling my hair out as I don't know what the problem is.

Some Google searching suggests that the b44 driver underwent some
updates in kernel 2.6.7.  Are you using the latest release of
Unattended?

Finally, please try it with "acpi=off".

 - Pat


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[Unattended] Network Card Problem

[Mangano, Aron]

Pat and others

I am having a problem with the linux boot cd on a new Dell Laptop. It is an
Inspiron 5150. It has an onboard Broadcom 4400 10/100 Network Card. My
problem is this, when I boot off the cd it discovers the card fine but then
it says:

B44: eth0 link is down
Debug, sending discover
B44: eth0: link is up at 100Mbps, full duplex
B44: eth0: flow control is off for TX and off for RX.

It then trys to get a DHCP address but fails with info, no lease, failing,
DHCP on eth0 failed. Giving up

I am pulling my hair out as I don't know what the problem is.

Anyone have any ideas ???


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[Unattended] config.pl - hardware and software csv

[Mangano, Aron]

Pat

For some strange reason that has started happening as of 2 days ago, my
unattended installation does not automatically discover the product key from
the spreadsheet that I have.

It will automatically find the username, mac address and computername etc
but not the product key...it is very weird.

I have noticed that when it cannot find the key the message is something
like cannot find file in $oem$\$1\drivers\txtsetup\txtsetup.oem ???

There is no directory named this in my unattended, do I need one as I
haven't had one before and it has worked fine.

Many thanks

Aron Mangano
IT Support - Australia West
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629 Newcastle Street
PO Box 81
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[Unattended] Marvell Yukon Gigabit Driver

[Mangano, Aron]

Pat and others

This is the first time I have experienced this problem and I am not sure if
it is something that the list members can help me with or not.

My company recently purchased the Asus P4P800-E Deluxe motherboards with
P4's etc.

The Lan driver is at this address: 
http://www.asus.it/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=P4P800-E%20Deluxe

For some reason, the unattended will simply not detect the network driver
which renders the whole process useless.

The .inf and .sys files etc are placed in the usual correct folders and are
even copied correctly to the PC into the Drivers folder.

Once Windows XP Pro has loaded if I go into Device Manager and then update
the driver manually by browsing to the very directory that has already been
copied to the drivers directorty on the pc, it installs fine 

Just wondering if anyone has experienced this problem and if anyone has any
ideas.

Incidently once you expand the Marvell driver download package off the Asus
site, there is a Windows directory and a PXE directory and I have tried
both.

Thanks in advance



-Original Message-
From: Patrick J. LoPresti
To: Mangano, Aron
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sent: 6/30/2004 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Unattended] SATA Drive Problem

"Mangano, Aron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 00:1f.2 IDE Interface Intel 82801EB /ER (ICH5/ICH5R) ultra ATA 150
Storage
> Controller (rev 02)
> 
> The contents of lspci produced the following: (which corresponded to
the
> above)
> 
> 00:1f.2 Class 0101: 8086: 24d1 (rev 02)

That should be handled by the ata_piix driver.

> Now, when the CD fails I notice it says it cannot locate
> /lib/modules/2.6.7/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-core.ko then piix.ko and
> ide-generic.ko etc etc

Um, that sounds like you did not update Z:\linuxaux (in particular,
Z:\linuxaux\lib\modules\2.6.7) on the network from the
unattended-linuxboot archive.

I know, updating to new releases of Unattended is kind of a pain.  I
wonder if there is anything we can do to make it easier...

Anyway, please populate the modules directory on the network and try
again.

 - Pat


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RE: [Unattended] SATA Drive Problem

[Mangano, Aron]

 Pat many thanks :-)

You were absolutley correct, I had forgotten to update that directory.
*slaps himself*

Thanks Pat

-Original Message-
From: Patrick J. LoPresti
To: Mangano, Aron
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sent: 6/30/2004 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Unattended] SATA Drive Problem

"Mangano, Aron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 00:1f.2 IDE Interface Intel 82801EB /ER (ICH5/ICH5R) ultra ATA 150
Storage
> Controller (rev 02)
> 
> The contents of lspci produced the following: (which corresponded to
the
> above)
> 
> 00:1f.2 Class 0101: 8086: 24d1 (rev 02)

That should be handled by the ata_piix driver.

> Now, when the CD fails I notice it says it cannot locate
> /lib/modules/2.6.7/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-core.ko then piix.ko and
> ide-generic.ko etc etc

Um, that sounds like you did not update Z:\linuxaux (in particular,
Z:\linuxaux\lib\modules\2.6.7) on the network from the
unattended-linuxboot archive.

I know, updating to new releases of Unattended is kind of a pain.  I
wonder if there is anything we can do to make it easier...

Anyway, please populate the modules directory on the network and try
again.

 - Pat


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RE: [Unattended] SATA Drive Problem

[Mangano, Aron]

Pat and others

Thanks as usual for the feedbackI haven't had the chance to look at this
until now when as usual it is needed.

I tried the latest linux boot cd but alas it didn't work.

The contents of lspci -n produced the following:

00:1f.2 IDE Interface Intel 82801EB /ER (ICH5/ICH5R) ultra ATA 150 Storage
Controller (rev 02)

The contents of lspci produced the following: (which corresponded to the
above)

00:1f.2 Class 0101: 8086: 24d1 (rev 02)

Now, when the CD fails I notice it says it cannot locate
/lib/modules/2.6.7/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-core.ko then piix.ko and
ide-generic.ko etc etc

The message then says hmmm found no harddrives (amiraid/aro) ataraid/d0
cciss/i0d0 i20/had ida/c0d0 rd/c0d0 had sda hdc 

Under sys/block I get:

Ram0   ram10   ram12   ram14   ram2   ram4   ram6   ram8
Ram1   ram11   ram13   ram15   ram3   ram5   ram7   ram9

Is this enough information, kind Regards Aron. :-)



-Original Message-
From: Patrick J. LoPresti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2004 9:09 PM
To: Mangano, Aron
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: [Unattended] SATA Drive Problem

"Mangano, Aron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I tried everything to get the unattended to work but alas I
> couldn't. The problem being that the linux boot cd would not
> recognize the SATA drive.  Well, as the screen was loading (it is
> fast) but I was able to glimpse a line which seemed to indicate that
> it had found the drive.

You can use Shift-PageUp to scroll backwards and read the messages.

I am going to need more information to debug this.  The output of
"lspci" and especially "lspci -n" would be useful; in particular, the
lines corresponding to the S-ATA controller device(s).

> I am sure your disk should be able to identify the SATA drive,

Maybe, but it may take some tweaking to make it happen.  I really need
the "lspci -n" values.

Oh, and the contents of /sys/block at the time of failure.

(Or you can try the next release of Unattended, which will have the
2.6.7 kernel and might "just work".)

 - Pat


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[Unattended] SATA Drive Problem

[Mangano, Aron]

Pat and others

Apologise for the limited info but here goes;

Yesterday, my company purchased a number of new pc's which are using the new
Asus P4P800-E Deluxe Motherboard.

I tried everything to get the unattended to work but alas I couldn't. The
problem being that the linux boot cd would not recognize the SATA drive.
Well, as the screen was loading (it is fast) but I was able to glimpse a
line which seemed to indicate that it had found the drive.

Unfortunately though once I try to map my install share it bombs out with a
message that "oh so close" I believe.

I am sure your disk should be able to identify the SATA drive, however this
new motherboard has a weird bios. In the bios there is a section for what
type of os you are using (2 modes) (1) ie legacy os's, (compatability mode -
in this mode the SATA somehow replaces an IDE channel) win98, dos etc, or
(2) (enhanced mode) - new, as in Win Xp or Server 2003.

I tried both settings but no luck...

I then had to install the os from scratch etc...Windows XP had no problem in
detecting the drive.

Anyone have any idea, I am happy to provide more info ..as this has
never happened before, the linux boot cd always works like a treat :-)



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[Unattended] Server Space

[Mangano, Aron]

Pat and others

1. Is it possible that we can set up server space somewhere for users to
contribute files such as scripts they have written, etc etc.

2. Pat, I have a program here that I wish to install silently but I cannot
figure it out. I know it uses Installshield but it is a self executing
installshield file. If I extract the .exe into a folder it then only
produces a .cab file which cannot be opened. I have contacted the developer
but they admit in not having too much knowledge in Installshield, they
simply chose it as a package to use. Any ideas.I would love to send it
to you to give you a crack at it.

Aron

P.S. Good work on getting version 4.2 out the door so quickly :-)



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RE: [Unattended] Windows auto update how to?

[Mangano, Aron]

You could do this, but why would you as it would cost you bandwidth and
dollars etc :-)

Pats way is far superior as you only need to download the updates and
hotfixes once etc.

Aron

-Original Message-
From: John Lilley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 14 May 2004 3:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Unattended] Windows auto update how to?

Hey Everyone,

I was wondering if its possible to run auto update automatically after 
the last reboot to install all critical patches instead of using the 
winxp-update.bat? I've set todo.pl "auconfig.pl 4" in base.bat but don't
really know how to get it to update immediately after install.

Oh and great work on the linux boot disk! I boot pxe and this saves me 
the headache of having to boot pxe twice for the drive format. :)

John




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RE: [Unattended] Creating Menus For Different Builds

[Mangano, Aron]

Pat, you are a star

I just tried it and it works :-) WOOT 

I am yet to populate the scripts directory with the appropriate batch files
ie admin-draftsman.bat but I am sure that it will work a treat..

Thanks heaps again Pat, I am off to bed now but I will try and test it at
work tomorrow if I have time.

Out of interest, how does the this new perl code overwrite the existing
base, sales and develop.bat that exist in the install.pl or is that too
complicated to mention :-)

Aron 



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From: Patrick J. LoPresti
To: Mangano, Aron
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '
Sent: 5/13/2004 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Unattended] Creating Menus For Different Builds

Wow, I really must be losing it.

OK, one more time:


$u->{'_maunsell'}->{'department'} =
sub {
print "Choose department:\n";
return menu_choice (map { $_ => $_ }
('Admin', 'Civil', 'Mechanical',
 [etc.]
));
};

$u->{'_maunsell'}->{'role'} =
sub {
print "Choose role\n";
return menu_choice (map { $_ => $_ }
('Secretary', 'Engineer', 'Draftsman',
 [etc.]
));
};


This is my own fault for making menu_choice and multi_choice
inconsistent, so even I cannot remember how to use them...

 - Pat


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RE: [Unattended] Creating Menus For Different Builds

[Mangano, Aron]

 Thanks once again Pat

I tried that but it still didn't work but then I figured that:

 my role = $u->{'_maunsell'}->{'role'};

should read

 my $role = $u->{'_maunsell'}->{'role'};

ie the $ was missing :-)

It then started to work until you finish the first menu ie when it asks you
to format the drive or replace MBR I think from memory.

I get the following error:

menu_choice called with odd number of arguments at /z/unattend/promise.pm
line 29

Thanks Pat


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From: Patrick J. LoPresti
To: Mangano, Aron
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 5/13/2004 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Unattended] Creating Menus For Different Builds

"Patrick J. LoPresti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Yes.  Getting these questions asked is trivial; you can just add your
> own section ("_maunsell", say) with some values:
> 
> ==
> $u->{'_maunsell}->{'department'} =

Whoops, my mistake.  That should read:

  $u->{'_maunsell'}->{'department'} =

Similarly,

> $u->{'_maunsell}->{'role'} =

...should read:

  $u->{'_maunsell'}->{'role'} =

Sorry about that, Aron.  Give it another try?

 - Pat


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RE: [Unattended] (no subject)

[Mangano, Aron]

Pat, thanks again for your always prompt responses.

I will try and explain myself more clearly.

Currently, I use the unattended with Shad's script without any problems. I
install Windows XP or Windows 2000 onto new or old machines and his script
automatically inserts the correct product keys etc. This is separate from
what my last few posts have been about. I only mentioned Shad's script
because I want to make sure that I am still able to use his script even
though I wish to add this new perl code to it. (ie in regards to the
departments and roles etc. Basically I just wanted to make sure that his
code still worked in conjunction with the new code.

Now with my current situation, you are correct in saying that when I run the
unattended I want to be asked about the department and the role and then use
this information to determine what software to install. Your script looks
perfect for this. In essence I guess, rather than asking me if I wish to
install base.bat or sales.bat or develop.bat like your example does, I wish
for it to ask me, which department, and then which role etc...

When I paste your code into the top of my config.pl (ie above shad's code),
I get the following error:

Do /z/site/config.pl failed bad name after department' at /z/site/config.pl
line 1

Hopefully I have been a bit clearer this time, sorry for the confusion.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Aron



-Original Message-
From: Patrick J. LoPresti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 13 May 2004 4:24 AM
To: Aron Mangano
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Unattended] (no subject)

"Aron Mangano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Pat,
> 
> Excuse my very limited knowledge of Perl..(well no knowledge actually)
> * I am using a diff email address to earlier as work webmail is not
> working :()
> 
> work email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> What you have come up with is exactly what I am after.
> 
> I copied your text and pasted it into the config.pl but it does not
> work, as I realize I am doing something wrong. I didn't include the
> [] brackets though where you had entered etc.

When you say "it does not work", what do you mean, exactly?  Does it
die with an error, or does it prompt you for a department/role but not
do anything with that info, or does it neither give an error nor
prompt you at all?

> Could you possibly let me know exactly how the structure is supposed
> to be and whether I can include anything else in the config.pl. I am
> also using Shad's example to input the serial numbers from the
> spreadsheet etc so I don't know exactly where the code is supposed
> to be.

Well, it is just Perl code.  The best documentation we have is the
examples at .

> $u->{'_maunsell}->{'department'} =
> sub {
> return menu_choice ('Choose department: ',
> map { $_ => $_ }
> ('Admin', 'Civil', 'Mechanical',
>  ));
> };
> 
> $u->{'_maunsell}->{'role'} =
> sub {
> return menu_choice ('Choose role: ',
> map { $_ => $_ }
> ('Secretary', 'Engineer', 'Draftsman',
>  ));
> };
>
> $u->{'_meta'}->{'top'} =
> sub {
> my $department = $u->{'_maunsell'}->{'department'};
> my role = $u->{'_maunsell'}->{'role'};
> 
> return "$department-$role.bat";
> };

This looks fine to me, which is not surprising since it was my
suggestion :-).  I did not test it, though...

> [snipped copy of sample-config.pl]

Shad's sample-config.pl is designed to be used in conjunction with
hardware and software spreadsheets, as described in the comments at
the top.  Whether you want to use his code depends on exactly what you
are trying to do.  Which I do not think I fully understand yet.

It would help if you could provide a more complete description of what
you want.  As shipped, Unattended asks you a bunch of questions,
generates unattend.txt and some other stuff, and runs Windows Setup.
You want it to do something else, which is fine, but you need to
explain exactly what you want.

I understand that you want to ask for a department and a role and then
use that information for deciding which software to install.  Anything
else?

Shad's sample-config.pl will not do this.  What it will do is use a
spreadsheet named hardware.csv to set the the computer name, user
name, and organization name based on the MAC address; and then use a
spreadsheet named software.csv to set the license key and local admin
password based on the MAC address, computer name, user name, or
organization name.  If this is what you want, then you should include
sample-config.pl in your config.pl; but if this is not what you want,
you should not include it.

 - Pat


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[Unattended] Creating Menus For Different Builds

[Mangano, Aron]

What is the best way to set up menus ie in the standard setup you have base,
sales and develop etc.

I work for an engineering firm and to make things are lot easier on myself I
could use some sort of cascading menu.

Ie for example we have departments

Admin
Civil
Mechanical
Rail
Transport
Structural
Mining and Minerals
Environmental etc
Information Technology
Accounts

Within each department we have:

Engineers
Secretaries
Draftsman
Support Staff etc

Depending on which engineer works in which department etc, they will have
different software. All secretaries have basically the same software but
this can sometimes be different as well.

I'd like to have say top level menu, being the department, then sub menu's
with engineer, draftsman, secretary etc.

What would be the best way to achieve this.

I presume I need to edit config.pl??



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[Unattended] Re- Inserting OEM Product Kets from Spreadsheet (Mangano, Aron)

[Mangano, Aron]

Glad to hear it.  You might want to reply to your original message to inform
others of what happened.  The list is archived and Patrick and I refer to it
quite a bit as references for documentation.

-Shad

- Original Message -
From: "Mangano, Aron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Shad L. Lords" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 7:06 PM
Subject: RE: Inserting OEM Product Kets from Spreadsheet


> Shad
>
> Thanks for getting back to me.
>
> I had to laugh when I figured out last night what I was doing wrong, maybe
> you could add this to the documentation so no-one else makes the same
> mistake.
>
> I stupidly edited the csv files with Microsoft Excel. I opened and saved
> them as csv but It changes the format to dos or similar I guess.
>
> I presume now that to edit the csv, one would either use cygwin or notepad
> etc.
>
> I used my linux box and vi to edit it and it worked fine.
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Shad L. Lords [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 6 May 2004 11:33 PM
> To: Mangano, Aron
> Subject: Re: Inserting OEM Product Kets from Spreadsheet
>
> Please send me as attachments your hardware.csv and software.csv.  Feel
free
> to change serial numbers.
>
> -Shad
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mangano, Aron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Patrick J. LoPresti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 12:21 AM
> Subject: Inserting OEM Product Kets from Spreadsheet
>
>
> > Pat, Shad and others
> >
> > I seem to be having a real problem trying to get the oem product key
from
> > Windows XP Pro to automatically insert into the installation.
> >
> > As I understand it the only thing I should have to do is to edit the
> > hardware.csv and software.csv files in the z:\site directory and then
> rename
> > the sample.config.pl file to config.pl.
> >
> > I do this but it does not work. Is there anything else that I need to do
> or
> > that I am missing?
> >
> > Everything else is working fine.
> >
> > Please help if someone knows what I am doing wrong?
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
>


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[Unattended] Inserting OEM Product Kets from Spreadsheet

[Mangano, Aron]

Pat, Shad and others

I seem to be having a real problem trying to get the oem product key from
Windows XP Pro to automatically insert into the installation.

As I understand it the only thing I should have to do is to edit the
hardware.csv and software.csv files in the z:\site directory and then rename
the sample.config.pl file to config.pl.

I do this but it does not work. Is there anything else that I need to do or
that I am missing?

Everything else is working fine.

Please help if someone knows what I am doing wrong?

Many thanks 


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[Unattended] MAC Address

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How does everyone find the MAC address of the PC easily and quickly to
insert into the .csv file when trying to insert the product key into the OS
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[Unattended] Inserting Product Key into OEM Windows XP Professional

[Mangano, Aron]

Does anyone have a sample script that they could share with me in regards to
inserting OEM Product Keys into Windows XP Pro.

Have just been informed that is the way my company is going to operate so I
need a way to do it..

I guess, it would somehow have to be done using a spreadsheet of keys and
AutoIT 3 to insert them but I am not sure.

Anyone have any ideas, please share.

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RE: [Unattended] Windows 2000 Freezing During Installation

[Mangano, Aron]

Problem solved 

Yes I wasn't too hasty at all, was another issue.

The problem is definitely the nvidia drivers.

Just tried the older 52.16 driver and it works perfectly..

Don't ya just hate a prob that is basically out of your control lol

Yes so anyone using NVIDIA drivers under the OEM folder to preinstall the
video driver in Windows 2000 (not sure about XP) please read my threads

The latest version of the driver does not work and not sure at which release
this was a problem, but I know for sure that release 52.16 works..

Thanks  

-Original Message-
From: Patrick J. LoPresti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 30 April 2004 11:46 PM
To: Mangano, Aron
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: [Unattended] Windows 2000 Freezing During Installation


"Mangano, Aron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I didn't seem to receive a response on this so I thought I would ask 
> the list again.

I am not sure anybody has a very good answer...

> The chipset drivers are now installing correctly but the video drivers 
> still cause the machines to lock up.
> 
> I have created a $OEM$\$1\drivers\video dir etc as per usual
> 
> * By the way, the way I know that the video driver is the problem is 
> that if I choose not to install them, the installation continues as 
> normal.
> 
> What happens is this, Windows 2000 starts copying files etc, then the 
> machines reboots , converts to ntfs etc, reboots etc etc install 
> windows starts to install plug and play drivers.when the blue 
> installation line reaches the end of the screen, instead of starting 
> to install the networking components, the machines simply freeze..

This is very similar to what happens to me on some ThinkPad T20 systems.
The blue line gets about halfway across, and then the machine locks up
completely.  I can reproduce it most easily on T20s with no battery
installed, which makes me think it has something to do with ACPI.

If I reboot and let the installation restart, the hardware detection happens
again, and this time it almost always finishes without error. I have no idea
why.  Something to do with power management, maybe...

> I am starting to think that maybe my windows 2000 files have become 
> corrupt, it is so frustrating as this has never happended before.

Possible but unlikely.  I believe Windows Setup performs a checksum of each
file on the installation media.

> Sorry for the lengthy email, does anyone have any ideaswill be 
> much appreciated..

I do not have any good ideas.

Did you follow Intel's instructions for installing the new .inf files? In
particular, the steps about copying them to $OEM$\$$\inf ?  That might cause
them to be installed before the video drivers.  But I am not sure.

You might try asking on an Asus forum.

 - Pat


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FW: [Unattended] Windows 2000 Freezing During Installation

[Mangano, Aron]

Ooops sent last message from wrong mail account

*apologies*


Firstly

A huge thankyou to Pat as always for getting back to me quicklyyou are
indeed a legend..

I have solved the problem and in doing so am very p*ssed off with Nvidia...

I have been scouring the net for solutions and found an obscure post
somewhere stating that ever since release 55 or so of Nvidia's 2000 and XP
drivers that they have had problems.

Well to test it I chose one of our older P4's Asus P4-TE Motherboard with an
Asus V9520 video card and I used the lastest Nvidia driver and of course it
failed...ie installation froze.

Next I did the same but instead this time I chose version 44.03 of Nvidia
drivers released May 14th last year and what do you know...bang it worked a
treat..so I am stoked 

P.S So I say * you to Nvidia

Many thanks to all who got back to me with my queries...




-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, 30 April 2004 11:46 PM
To: Mangano, Aron
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: [Unattended] Windows 2000 Freezing During Installation


"Mangano, Aron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I didn't seem to receive a response on this so I thought I would ask
> the list again.

I am not sure anybody has a very good answer...

> The chipset drivers are now installing correctly but the video drivers
> still cause the machines to lock up.
> 
> I have created a $OEM$\$1\drivers\video dir etc as per usual
> 
> * By the way, the way I know that the video driver is the problem is
> that if I choose not to install them, the installation continues as 
> normal.
> 
> What happens is this, Windows 2000 starts copying files etc, then the
> machines reboots , converts to ntfs etc, reboots etc etc install 
> windows starts to install plug and play drivers.when the blue 
> installation line reaches the end of the screen, instead of starting 
> to install the networking components, the machines simply freeze..

This is very similar to what happens to me on some ThinkPad T20 systems.
The blue line gets about halfway across, and then the machine locks up
completely.  I can reproduce it most easily on T20s with no battery
installed, which makes me think it has something to do with ACPI.

If I reboot and let the installation restart, the hardware detection happens
again, and this time it almost always finishes without error. I have no idea
why.  Something to do with power management, maybe...

> I am starting to think that maybe my windows 2000 files have become
> corrupt, it is so frustrating as this has never happended before.

Possible but unlikely.  I believe Windows Setup performs a checksum of each
file on the installation media.

> Sorry for the lengthy email, does anyone have any ideaswill be
> much appreciated..

I do not have any good ideas.

Did you follow Intel's instructions for installing the new .inf files? In
particular, the steps about copying them to $OEM$\$$\inf ?  That might cause
them to be installed before the video drivers.  But I am not sure.

You might try asking on an Asus forum.

 - Pat


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[Unattended] Windows 2000 Freezing During Installation

[Mangano, Aron]

Hi

Pat, when is the mailing list going to be updated on the sourceforge site do
you know.

I didn't seem to receive a response on this so I thought I would ask the
list again.

I am trying to install Windows 2000 SP4 unnattended on my new machines at
work. I have used the unattended plenty of times in the passed two years
without too many problems but this one has me stumped.

I thought it was purely a chipset or motherboard issue but it isn;t as I
have now replicated the problem on another motherboard.

Ok, the situation,

Installing Windows 2000 SP4 with following drivers: chipset, video, audio
and network.

The chipset drivers are now installing correctly but the video drivers still
cause the machines to lock up.

I have created a $OEM$\$1\drivers\video dir etc as per usual

* By the way, the way I know that the video driver is the problem is that if
I choose not to install them, the installation continues as normal.

What happens is this, Windows 2000 starts copying files etc, then the
machines reboots , converts to ntfs etc, reboots etc etc install windows
starts to install plug and play drivers.when the blue installation line
reaches the end of the screen, instead of starting to install the networking
components, the machines simply freeze..

I am starting to think that maybe my windows 2000 files have become corrupt,
it is so frustrating as this has never happended before.

By the way I have tried by the Asus OEM driver and the latest NVIDIA drivers
as the cards I have tried it on have been ASUS Geoforce 5700 and ASUS 9520 I
think...

Another thing, which is totally weird is that if I choose not to install the
video drivers, which I have been doing, (no other choice) the unattended
stops after installing IE6.weird I know...If I then manually reboot the
unattended will continue on.

Sorry for the lengthy email, does anyone have any ideaswill be much
appreciated..

Thanks



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RE: [Unattended] Unattended Freezing During Video Card Install

[Mangano, Aron]

Thanks heaps for the help again Pat.

You are a legend as always, I don't know why I couldn't find out that info
lol.

I tried their method but the machines keep freezing at the same point as
before. It is so frustrating. The drivers do not even seem to install.

One thing is, how do we know the order in which the drivers are installed..
According to intel, the chipset needs to be installed before everything else
but how can I make sure that this is the case?

The only way I could get my unattended to work was to install it without the
video driver and then install the video driver at a later stage. I know this
works but I am determined to get it working into the unattended as I have
never had this problem before.

Hmmm, I wonder if the chipset drivers won't install on and integrated
service pack of windows 2000...although that does seem unlikely.

Any have any other ideas for me. 





-Original Message-
From: Patrick J. LoPresti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 26 April 2004 3:46 AM
To: Mangano, Aron
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Unattended] Unattended Freezing During Video Card Install

"Mangano, Aron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> My new prob is this.when Windows 2000 SP4 gets to the point
> where it installs the video drivers ...ie you can see the files at
> the bottom of the screen whilst it copies, the installation does one
> of two things:
> 
> 1. If I use the drivers supplied on the CD or download them from the
> net it stops and asks for a certain dll file.

As a general rule, please provide complete and detailed information
when describing failures.  This is both to help others help you now,
and to act as a set of keywords when people search the archives in the
future.

In this case, what did the error message say, precisely?  Which DLL?

And where can I download these drivers?  I looked around at the URL
you sent and did not see any video drivers.

> 2. As it is an Nvidia based card I use the Nvidia drivers but this
> caused the unattended to freeze and will not get beyond this
> point...

Hm.

> I believe the problem is that the chipset drivers need to be
> installed firstif I use the one on the cd or download from Aus,
> there doesn't seem to be any inf files when I extract it..
>
> The chipset driver utility is here..> 
> 
> http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=P4P800

Under the "Utilities" tab, I assume?

Again, it would have been helpful if you had specified the file you
downloaded (I presume "inf5021003.zip") and what you saw when you
extracted it (no .inf files, but an installer named
infinst_autol.exe).

I believe you will find this intel.com page useful:

  http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/inf/sb/CS-009276.htm

Although they appear to have some problems with their text->HTML
conversion.  Where they mean to say $OEM$\$$\INF, they say instead
$OEM$\$\INF.  And where they mean to say $OEM$\$1\Drivers, they say
instead $OEM$\\Drivers.  But you can probably figure it out :-).

I tried running the infinst_autol thing with "-a -a -p " and it
extracted the INF files to .

Or you can download Intel's INF files in .zip format:

 
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/File_Filter.asp?FileName=infinst_
enu.zip

 - Pat


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[Unattended] Unattended Freezing During Video Card Install

[Mangano, Aron]

Hi 

I have encountered the following prob and wondered if anyone else had or if
there is a solution.

We have just purchased new machines as work which have the Asus P4P800 board
and we purchased them with the Asus V9520 Video card.

I have used the unattended almost since the beginning in 2002 and have had
it working successfully most of the time.

My new prob is this.when Windows 2000 SP4 gets to the point where it
installs the video drivers ...ie you can see the files at the bottom of the
screen whilst it copies, the installation does one of two things:

1. If I use the drivers supplied on the CD or download them from the net it
stops and asks for a certain dll file.

2. As it is an Nvidia based card I use the Nvidia drivers but this caused
the unattended to freeze and will not get beyond this point...

I believe the problem is that the chipset drivers need to be installed
firstif I use the one on the cd or download from Aus, there doesn't seem
to be any inf files when I extract it..

The chipset driver utility is here..> 

http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=P4P800

Maybe Asus have got it wrong but I doubt it

Has anyone got any ideas for me.many thanks in advance...:)



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RE: [Unattended] Mailing List

[Mangano, Aron]

Thanks again Pat

At what stage do I insert the autolog.pl script...ie do I need to put this
into the base.bat or beforehand?

Also should the format be similar to this todo.pl "autolog.pl --logon=1
--user=administrator --domain=xxx.com.au --password=xxx" etc etc

Yes, I haven't tried the linux disk yet, but I will next time.



-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, 6 April 2004 9:50 PM
To: IT Helpdesk
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Subject: Re: [Unattended] Mailing List

IT Helpdesk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I forgot one important question...how do I make it so that each time
> the pc reboots it logs into the domain as network administrator as I
> need to do this to be able to add the printers etc.

You patch the registry to use the Winlogon\AutoAdminLogon mechanism.
We ship a utility script which will do this for you; see
.

> Also, is it possible to make auto detection of the network cards
> when using the cd methodits not a big thing but worth asking
> about...I know barts PE builder disk allows this, as I use his disk
> a lot as well.

This is possible in principle, and I would consider patches if they
are clean, but I am unlikely to implement it.

The Linux-based boot disk already does this, however.  You might give
it a try :-).

 - Pat


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