Re: Decomposing U+047F
On 02.12.27, 04:27, I wrote: > "90-deg. clockwise rotated E" above it -- quite like one of the usual > (current) glyph variants for upper case cyrillic "T" (U+0422), with > some kind of hypertrophiated serifs. This, of course, also applies to the lower case letter. Infamous is the italics form of U+0442, usually identical to the italics form of U+006D. -- . António MARTINS-Tuválkin| ()| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> || R. Laureano de Oliveira, 64 r/c esq. | PT-1885-050 MOSCAVIDE (LRS) Não me invejo de quem tem | +351 917 511 549 carros, parelhas e montes | http://www.tuvalkin.web.pt/bandeira/ só me invejo de quem bebe | http://pagina.de/bandeiras/ a água em todas as fontes |
Re: Coptic II?
At 10:09 PM 12/25/02 +0330, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > In fact the glyph for Kurdish Q often looks like a large q, similarly to > Cyrillic h; this is an inappropriate glyph for Latin Q. This should be enough evidence. Any samples? OK (assuming that this can be substantiated by samples) we now have the following score Legacy data. Legacy data would tend to have been created with Latin/Cyrillic character sets, which unify the Latin and Kurdish q. Disunification would make conversion *from* legacy data context dependent. (Conversion to legacy sets could be done by mapping both types of Q to the same value, i.e. Latin Q, in the legacy set). However, the prospect of forever seeing both Latin and Cyrillic Q used in Kurdish text, due to contamination from legacy data leads me to award on negative point to the disunification proposal: Score -1 Fonts If the 'q' form of capital Q is any common, maintaining the unification would introduce a language dependency in the rendering process. If the 'Q' form is not wholly un-acceptable, then its arguably a permissible fall-back. Standard fonts lacking language specific glyphs would be usable (after a fashion) for Kurdish, while the reverse is not true. However, the font technology to handle a language specific form of capital q clearly does exist. However, Latin/Greek/Cyrillic rendering normally does not require such mechanisms for rendering 'plain' text. Score: 0.5 Sorting Having the letter q both be part of Kurdish words (in Cyrillic) and Latin words, would make sorting of mixed lists a bit tricky. I'm not sure how far the level of required trickery exceeds some of the trickery one needs to apply for unusual cases in other languages (e.g. the case in Danish where 'aa' can either be 'aa' (if a across an intra-compund word boundary) or a-ring). However, on the priniciple that disunification would simplify the sorting problem I'd award a 1/2 point. Score: 0.5 In summary, with the information on capital q the score tends to even out. If evidence could be adduced that a) no legacy data exists, or b) the user community wishes this problem on itself, a proposal could acquire a small positive score, possibly enough to overcome inertia. A./
Re: Coptic II?
At 14:00 -0800 2002-12-26, Michael \(michka\) Kaplan wrote: From: "Michael Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Georgian has to do with a false unification (whatever the reasons for it, it was a mistake). In the opinion of some people. In the opinion of the primary user group, the Georgian Orthodox Church. Others, such as the head of the automation dept. of the National Parlimentary Library of Georgia, do not agree with this assessment. Please provide accurate documentation of this claim, and not hearsay. Names, dates, and text. As the opinion from the library is based on a careful look at their nearly 4 million Georgian books they need to catalog and handle, I cannot help feeling that there may be some merit to their point of view? Well, Irakli Garibashvili, President of the Georgian Library Association, does not hold this view. Dato Tarkhan-Mouravi Chairman of the Georgian State Department of Information Technology does not hold this view. The Catholocios Patriarch of All Georgia does not hold this view. -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com
Re: Fw: Karelian ASSR
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 01:43:48 +, Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin wrote: > due to the new language law of the Russian Federation that makes > Cyrillics compulsory for all the languages within the Federation. That's a very controversial law, but one correction is due nonetheless: "for all *state* languages". Constitution says that the republics shall have the right to institute their own state languages. This law puts a constraint on that right. My understanding is that if a republic wants to institute a state language that is not written in cyrillic, the decision must be made at a federal level. SY, Uwe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Zu Grunde kommen http://www.ptc.spbu.ru/~uwe/| Ist zu Grunde gehen
Typography and the Two Towers.
In the end titles of The Two Towers they seem to have had a character set problem. I saw a number of ä (a-diaeresis) in that text where a-macron would have been expected Sigh. -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com