Re:

2016-06-08 Thread Garth Wallace
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 7:26 AM, David Faulks  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Just a question here.
>
> The Zodiac sign Capricorn has an alternate Glyph/Symbol (see below):
> http://www.capricornzodiacsign.net/capricornsymbol.htm
>
> It is only vaguely similar to the glyph found in the Unicode charts and 
> astrological sites, and sometimes astrological software offers a choice 
> between the two.
>
> Since every font I have checked on my computer, uses a glyph close to the 
> Unicode charts (if they have Zodiac symbols at all), I am thinking that it 
> might be best to propose this as a separate character.
>
> Is this a good idea?

I just saw this alternate glyph pop up on a webpage, not as an image,
so I checked through the fonts on my system. It's apparently used for
U+2651 by the GNU FreeFont family, GNU Unifont, and Chrysanthi
Unicode. Chrysanthi does some odd things in the Miscellaneous Symbols
range but the others are pretty normal. It may just be a version of
the standard symbol with the loop enlarged and the left-hand side
reduced to a small wave or hook.


Re:

2016-06-08 Thread Garth Wallace
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 7:26 AM, David Faulks  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Just a question here.
>
> The Zodiac sign Capricorn has an alternate Glyph/Symbol (see below):
> http://www.capricornzodiacsign.net/capricornsymbol.htm
>
> It is only vaguely similar to the glyph found in the Unicode charts and 
> astrological sites, and sometimes astrological software offers a choice 
> between the two.
>
> Since every font I have checked on my computer, uses a glyph close to the 
> Unicode charts (if they have Zodiac symbols at all), I am thinking that it 
> might be best to propose this as a separate character.
>
> Is this a good idea?

Is it ever used alongside the more common symbol, with some semantic
distinction, or is it more of a stylistic choice?

> Also, Zodiac signs right now have Emoji representations. Would I have to 
> submit this as an Emoji rather than a symbol? Would I have to make up a 
> coloured Emoji Glyph?

I think the emoji representations of the standard zodiac symbols exist
because a Japanese cell phone provider put zodiac symbols in their
Shift-JIS emoji sets (since those symbols are not otherwise part of
the Shift-JIS standard).


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2016-06-08 Thread David Faulks
Hello,

Just a question here.

The Zodiac sign Capricorn has an alternate Glyph/Symbol (see below):
http://www.capricornzodiacsign.net/capricornsymbol.htm

It is only vaguely similar to the glyph found in the Unicode charts and 
astrological sites, and sometimes astrological software offers a choice between 
the two.

Since every font I have checked on my computer, uses a glyph close to the 
Unicode charts (if they have Zodiac symbols at all), I am thinking that it 
might be best to propose this as a separate character.

Is this a good idea? 

Also, Zodiac signs right now have Emoji representations. Would I have to submit 
this as an Emoji rather than a symbol? Would I have to make up a coloured Emoji 
Glyph?

Thanks for any responses.

David Faulks


Re: Adopting ZWJ

2016-06-08 Thread Mark Davis ☕️
We wanted to be a bit conservative regarding those characters, partly
because we are using a payment service that is fussy. We could test it out
again — but our first priority is getting U9.0 out the door!

Mark

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Karl Williamson 
wrote:

> On 06/07/2016 02:48 PM, Karl Williamson wrote:
>
>> I heard that someone was considering adopting ZWJ.  They seemed to think
>> that non-printables are not adoptable.  But I was unable to find a clear
>> list of criteria.  The page that allows one to adopt said that it wasn't
>> available, but that page really doesn't make it clear how one can test
>> for this without actually doing the adoption.  (Since it doesn't
>> actually ask for your credit card number on the initial page, one can
>> back out before the final commitment, but that's not a very friendly
>> interface)
>>
>>
> After I wrote that, I found this that I previously overlooked
>
> "You can’t sponsor candidate characters (those not yet released in a
> version of Unicode, such as the Emoji Candidates), nor certain characters
> such as invisible ones."
>
> But why this rule.  Why should someone be forbidden to adopt ZWJ?
>
>