RE: MODIFIER LETTER SMALL GREEK PHI in Calibri is wrong.

[Peter Constable via Unicode]

Thanks for reporting. The team responsible for the font has recorded a bug 
entry for this issue and will be working on a fix.

From: Unicode  On Behalf Of Oren Watson via Unicode
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 2:05 PM
To: unicode Unicode Discussion 
Subject: MODIFIER LETTER SMALL GREEK PHI in Calibri is wrong.

Would anyone know where to report this?
In the widely used Calibri typeface included with MS Office, the glyph shown 
for U+1D60 MODIFIER LETTER SMALL GREEK PHI, actually depicts a letter psi, not 
a phi.

Re: MODIFIER LETTER SMALL GREEK PHI in Calibri is wrong.

[James Tauber via Unicode]

Wasn't meaning to imply Oren was wrong, just that there are multiple
versions floating around with a different glyph at the U+1D60 code point.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 6:06 PM Hans Åberg  wrote:

> You are possibly both right, because it is OK in the web font but wrong in
> the desktop font.
>
>
> > On 17 Apr 2019, at 23:53, Oren Watson via Unicode 
> wrote:
> >
> > You can easily reproduce this by going here:
> > https://www.fonts.com/font/microsoft-corporation/calibri/regular
> > and putting in the following string: ψϕφᵠ
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 5:23 PM James Tauber 
> wrote:
> > It looks correct in Google Docs so it appears to have been fixed in
> whatever version of the font is used there.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 5:10 PM Oren Watson via Unicode <
> unicode@unicode.org> wrote:
> > Would anyone know where to report this?
> > In the widely used Calibri typeface included with MS Office, the glyph
> shown for U+1D60 MODIFIER LETTER SMALL GREEK PHI, actually depicts a letter
> psi, not a phi.
>
>

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Re: MODIFIER LETTER SMALL GREEK PHI in Calibri is wrong.

[James Kass via Unicode]

Confirming that the installed version here shows psi.  (Version 5.74)

Luc(as) de Groot is the type designer, I've copied him on this message.


On 2019-04-17 10:06 PM, Hans Åberg via Unicode wrote:

You are possibly both right, because it is OK in the web font but wrong in the 
desktop font.



On 17 Apr 2019, at 23:53, Oren Watson via Unicode  wrote:

You can easily reproduce this by going here:
https://www.fonts.com/font/microsoft-corporation/calibri/regular
and putting in the following string: ψϕφᵠ

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 5:23 PM James Tauber  wrote:
It looks correct in Google Docs so it appears to have been fixed in whatever 
version of the font is used there.

James

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 5:10 PM Oren Watson via Unicode  
wrote:
Would anyone know where to report this?
In the widely used Calibri typeface included with MS Office, the glyph shown 
for U+1D60 MODIFIER LETTER SMALL GREEK PHI, actually depicts a letter psi, not 
a phi.

Re: MODIFIER LETTER SMALL GREEK PHI in Calibri is wrong.

[Hans Åberg via Unicode]

You are possibly both right, because it is OK in the web font but wrong in the 
desktop font.


> On 17 Apr 2019, at 23:53, Oren Watson via Unicode  wrote:
> 
> You can easily reproduce this by going here: 
> https://www.fonts.com/font/microsoft-corporation/calibri/regular
> and putting in the following string: ψϕφᵠ
> 
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 5:23 PM James Tauber  wrote:
> It looks correct in Google Docs so it appears to have been fixed in whatever 
> version of the font is used there.
> 
> James
> 
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 5:10 PM Oren Watson via Unicode  
> wrote:
> Would anyone know where to report this?
> In the widely used Calibri typeface included with MS Office, the glyph shown 
> for U+1D60 MODIFIER LETTER SMALL GREEK PHI, actually depicts a letter psi, 
> not a phi.

Re: MODIFIER LETTER SMALL GREEK PHI in Calibri is wrong.

[Oren Watson via Unicode]

You can easily reporduce this by going here:
https://www.fonts.com/font/microsoft-corporation/calibri/regular
and putting in the following string: ψϕφᵠ

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 5:23 PM James Tauber  wrote:

> It looks correct in Google Docs so it appears to have been fixed in
> whatever version of the font is used there.
>
> James
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 5:10 PM Oren Watson via Unicode <
> unicode@unicode.org> wrote:
>
>> Would anyone know where to report this?
>> In the widely used Calibri typeface included with MS Office, the glyph
>> shown for U+1D60 MODIFIER LETTER SMALL GREEK PHI, actually depicts a letter
>> psi, not a phi.
>>
>>
>
> --
> *James Tauber*
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> Digital Tolkien 
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>

Re: MODIFIER LETTER SMALL GREEK PHI in Calibri is wrong.

[James Tauber via Unicode]

It looks correct in Google Docs so it appears to have been fixed in
whatever version of the font is used there.

James

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 5:10 PM Oren Watson via Unicode 
wrote:

> Would anyone know where to report this?
> In the widely used Calibri typeface included with MS Office, the glyph
> shown for U+1D60 MODIFIER LETTER SMALL GREEK PHI, actually depicts a letter
> psi, not a phi.
>
>

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MODIFIER LETTER SMALL GREEK PHI in Calibri is wrong.

[Oren Watson via Unicode]

Would anyone know where to report this?
In the widely used Calibri typeface included with MS Office, the glyph
shown for U+1D60 MODIFIER LETTER SMALL GREEK PHI, actually depicts a letter
psi, not a phi.

Re: Emoji Haggadah

[Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode]

On 4/16/19 11:52 PM, James Kass via Unicode wrote:


> 
http://historyview.blogspot.com/2011/10/yukaghir-girl-writes-love-letter.html


According to a comment, the Yukaghir love letter as semasiographic 
communication was debunked by John DeFrancis in 1989 who asserted that 
it was merely a prop in a Yukaghir parlor game.  Perhaps that 
debunking was in the very book cited by Martin J. Dürst earlier in 
this thread.


The blog page comment went on to say that Geoffrey Sampson, who wrote 
the book from which the blogger learned of the Yukaghir love letter, 
published a retraction in 1994.


Thank you.  I read about it in Sampson's book, but had not heard about 
the debunking or the retraction.


Almost too bad; it seems to work so well.  The closest thing I know to 
something like that, expressing ideas but not language-dependent, would 
be mathematical notation.


~mark