[ot] Re: Wachstube

2004-04-04 Thread Thomas Kuehne
Am Sonntag, 4. April 2004 12:39 schrieb Chris Jacobs:
 By the way, am I correct in assuming that a Wachstube is a big
 transparant perspex tube used as a greenhouse?

Wachs|tube: 
collapsible tube containing wax

Wach|stube:
guard parlour or a tiny police station with a single room 





Re: vertical direction control

2004-03-24 Thread Thomas Kuehne
Am 2004-03-23 21:57 schrieb Ernest Cline:
 I suppose one could use the ECMA-48 / ISO 6429
 SPD (Select Presentation Direction) control sequence, but that
 is hardly plain text, altho it isn't quite markup either.

After having a glimpse on ECMA-48(Control Functions for Coded 
Character Sets) I am not sure how this concept would interact with 
the bidi algorithm - especially if glyphs should be mirrored, rotated 
or simply reordered.

Thomas Kuehne



Re: vertical direction control

2004-03-24 Thread Thomas Kuehne
Am 2004-03-23 20:23 schrieb Asmus Freytag:
 I don't think I know of a scenario where it is crtical for a
 resource limited device to display the kinds of texts you list
 below.

Reading the font data and processing it into a display representation 
poses the same resource costs for mirrored, rotated and normal 
glyphs.

The limitations are mainly processing speed and memory/storage. On the 
display side there are few potential problems.


Thomas Kuehne



vertical direction control

2004-03-23 Thread Thomas Kuehne
Is somebody already using a PUA assignment for vertical text direction 
controls?

from http://www.unicode.org/faq/bidi.html#1
 [...] the choice of vertical layout is usually treated as a
 formatting style; therefore, the Unicode Standard does not define
 default rendering behavior for vertical text nor provide
 directionality controls designed to override such behavior.

Thanks in advance for any hints,

Thomas Kuehne



Re: vertical direction control

2004-03-23 Thread Thomas Kuehne
Am Mittwoch 24 März 2004 00:09 schrieb Asmus Freytag:
 Is somebody already using a PUA assignment for vertical text
  direction controls?

 I think the idea was that these don't belong in plain text.
 Markup languages have had vertical layout controls forever.

The problem arose at very resource limited devices, thus no HTML nor 
RTF etc.. In fact there is no higher level protocol other than plain 
strings/text.

While crawling through the Pango and SilGraphite rendering engines I 
noticed that they provide(or are planning to) an interface for 
vertical text. 
For CJK, old European in-scripts and especially Egyptian hieroglyphs 
it would be good to have a common control set - otherwise plain text 
can't be used for data exchange.

Thomas Kuehne