Re: [OT beyond any repair] House numbers (was RE: ISO 3166 (country c odes) Maintenance Agency Web pages move))
Marco Cimarosti wrote: I am curious whether another rule valid in Italy also applies in other countries: here the numbering always starts on the end of the road which is nearer to the center. In Paris, streets perpendicular to the Seine have 1 at the end closest to the Seine; for streets parallel to the Seine, numbers increase in the same direction as the water flows. Eric.
Re: [OT beyond any repair] House numbers (was RE: ISO 3166 (country c odes) Maintenance Agency Web pages move))
At 13:26 3/11/2002, Eric Muller wrote: In Paris, streets perpendicular to the Seine have 1 at the end closest to the Seine; for streets parallel to the Seine, numbers increase in the same direction as the water flows. That's the most beautiful thing I have heard all day. Thank you. John Hudson Tiro Typeworks www.tiro.com Vancouver, BC [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Vancouver automobilists switched from driving on the left to driving on the right at midnight, December 31st, 1922. It must have been some night.' - Brian Morgan, City of Murex
Re: [OT beyond any repair] House numbers (was RE: ISO 3166(country c odes) Maintenance Agency Web pages move))
John Hudson wrote: At 13:26 3/11/2002, Eric Muller wrote: In Paris, streets perpendicular to the Seine have 1 at the end closest to the Seine; for streets parallel to the Seine, numbers increase in the same direction as the water flows. That's the most beautiful thing I have heard all day. Thank you. Until we tell you the Seine is tidal... ;-)
Re: [OT beyond any repair] House numbers
At 01:16 PM 3/1/2002 -0500, John Cowan wrote: What about the 100 house numbers per block convention? This does not hold in the older parts of older US cities (New York does not obey it south of 8th St or so), but is quite general in the US as a whole It holds for the whole of Baltimore and extends on at least the major arteries into the suburbs Some suburbs reset the count from their own city centers, and that may or may not include the main arteries I am not aware of any exceptions at all in Baltimore city Note that the main arteries are more or less in an spoke from the center of downtown All blocks are numbered form the hub (baltimore (east/west) at charles (north/south) Thus all 2800 blocks are roughly equidistant form the center It is less well known that even numbers are on the left as you head out of town in any direction and odd numbers on the right Anyone who wants to reach me by snail (extremely snail) mail, can do so at: Cowan 12017-0042 USA Doesn't every address that USPS delivers to have a unique 9 digit zip code, making house numbers a legacy? From the US, couldn't I get a letter to you just by putting 12017-0042 on the envelope? Barry Caplan Publisher, wwwi18ncom
Re: [OT beyond any repair] House numbers
Barry Caplan wrote: Doesn't every address that USPS delivers to have a unique 9 digit zip code, making house numbers a legacy? In fact no. As a trivial counterexample, P.O. Box Numbers become ZIP+4 codes by adding the 5-digit ZIP code to the 4 low order digits of the box number (as in my case), but I have seen P.O. Box addresses with more than 4 digits. For another example, the building in New York City that I live in contains 10 apartments, equally divided among two ZIP+4 codes. From the US, couldn't I get a letter to you just by putting 12017-0042 on the envelope? It happens to work for me because the 12017 post office has comfortably fewer than 10,000 boxes -- in fact, it has a few hundred at most. In general, though, USPS will not deliver without some kind of addressee's name, so that is required in addition to the ZIP+4. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.reutershealth.com I amar prestar aen, han mathon ne nen,http://www.ccil.org/~cowan han mathon ne chae, a han noston ne 'wilith. --Galadriel, _LOTR:FOTR_
[OT beyond any repair] House numbers (was RE: ISO 3166 (country codes) Maintenance Agency Web pages move))
John Cowan wrote: [...] House numbers in North America (and in France also, it seems) have a few bits of meaning: the least-significant (numeric) bit tells you which side of the street the house is on, [...] It is the same in Italy. I was quite surprised to know that also in other countries even and odd numbers are on the opposite sides of the road. I am curious whether another rule valid in Italy also applies in other countries: here the numbering always starts on the end of the road which is nearer to the center. When visiting Italian cities, I know whether I am walking towards the suburbs or towards the center by the looking whether house numbers increase or decrease. _ Marco
Re: [OT beyond any repair] House numbers (was RE: ISO 3166 (country c odes) Maintenance Agency Web pages move))
Marco Cimarosti wrote: 27E7FB58F42CD5119C0D0002557C0CCA16B4C8@XCHANGE"> John Cowan wrote: [...] House numbers in North America (and in Francealso, it seems) have a few bits of meaning: the least-significant(numeric) bit tells you which side of the street the house is on,[...] It is the same in Italy. I was quite surprised to know that also in othercountries even and odd numbers are on the opposite sides of the road.I am curious whether another "rule" valid in Italy also applies in othercountries: here the numbering always starts on the end of the road which isnearer to the center. When visiting Italian cities, I know whether I amwalking towards the suburbs or towards the center by the looking whetherhouse numbers increase or decrease. This is the same in Belgium. Patrick Andries
Re: [OT beyond any repair] House numbers
John Cowan had written: [] House numbers[]: the least-significant (numeric) bit tells you which side of the street the house is on, Same here (southern Germany) Odd numbers on the left, even numbers on the right hand, when you look up the street (from small to larger numbers) Marco Cimarosti wrote: here the numbering always starts on the end of the road which is nearer to the center Same here I guess, it's rather nearer to the post-office I recall that at Hamburg (northern Germany) I found it different, some years ago Best wishes, Otto Stolz
Re: [OT beyond any repair] House numbers (was RE: ISO 3166 (countryc odes) Maintenance Agency Web pages move))
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Patrick Andries wrote: Marco Cimarosti wrote: John Cowan wrote: [...] House numbers in North America (and in France also, it seems) have a few bits of meaning: the least-significant (numeric) bit tells you which side of the street the house is on, [...] It is the same in Italy. I was quite surprised to know that also in other countries even and odd numbers are on the opposite sides of the road. I am curious whether another rule valid in Italy also applies in other countries: here the numbering always starts on the end of the road which is nearer to the center. When visiting Italian cities, I know whether I am walking towards the suburbs or towards the center by the looking whether house numbers increase or decrease. This is the same in Belgium. Patrick Andries Friday, March 1, 2002 I'd say this is generaly true in the U.S. too. It is probably a product of urban expansion from the center outward. Regards, Jim Agenbroad ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) It is not true that people stop pursuing their dreams because they grow old, they grow old because they stop pursuing their dreams. Adapted from a letter by Gabriel Garcia Marquez. The above are purely personal opinions, not necessarily the official views of any government or any agency of any. Addresses: Office: Phone: 202 707-9612; Fax: 202 707-0955; US mail: I.T.S. Sys.Dev.Gp.4, Library of Congress, 101 Independence Ave. SE, Washington, D.C. 20540-9334 U.S.A. Home: Phone: 301 946-7326; US mail: Box 291, Garrett Park, MD 20896.
Re: [OT beyond any repair] House numbers
Otto Stolz wrote: Same here (southern Germany). Odd numbers on the left, even numbers on the right hand, when you look up the street (from small to larger numbers). (Going off the deep end today, be warned!) This rule does not hold here. In Manhattan, for example, streets run both east and west from the central spine, and are numbered starting at the spine and working outward. However, even numbers are always on the south side. The rule does work for Manhattan avenues, which are numbered northwards with the odd numbers on the west (left) side. In Queens (another part of NYC) the houses were renumbered in 1926, inducing Queens resident Ellis Parker Butler (best known for the immortal Pigs Is Pigs, http://www.ellisparkerbutler.info/epb/reading.asp?id=2055 ) to have this mnemonic published in the New York Times: In Queens to find locations best -- Avenues, roads and drives run west; But ways to north and south, 'tis plain Are street or place or even lane; While even numbers you will meet Upon the west and south of street. (You can sing it to the tune of Little Brown Jug.) What about the 100 house numbers per block convention? This does not hold in the older parts of older U.S. cities (New York does not obey it south of 8th St. or so), but is quite general in the U.S. as a whole. Same here. I guess, it's rather nearer to the post-office. In the U.S., at least, house numbers have nothing to do with the Postal Service, but are assigned by city planning commissions and the like. In rural parts, it is not uncommon for houses to be neither named nor numbered; my house in the country has no address at all, and only post office boxes are provided (no mail delivery). Anyone who wants to reach me by snail (extremely snail) mail, can do so at: Cowan 12017-0042 U.S.A. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.reutershealth.com I amar prestar aen, han mathon ne nen,http://www.ccil.org/~cowan han mathon ne chae, a han noston ne 'wilith. --Galadriel, _LOTR:FOTR_
