Re: N'Ko - which character? 02BC vs. 2019
Den 2015-02-02 19:36, skrev Michael Everson ever...@evertype.com: Hawaiian Hobbit, U+02BB has been drawn 133% taller, but of the same width, as U+2018. I believe this really must be considered good practice. In these I think you mean 33 % taller, i.e. height 133 % relative to its normal height. 133 % taller would be more than double its normal height, making it about as tall as an uppercase letter... That would be excessive... /Kent K ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode
Re: N'Ko - which character? 02BC vs. 2019
On 2 Feb 2015, at 23:31, Kent Karlsson kent.karlsso...@telia.com wrote: Hawaiian Hobbit, U+02BB has been drawn 133% taller, but of the same width, as U+2018. I believe this really must be considered good practice. In these I think you mean 33 % taller, i.e. height 133 % relative to its normal height. 133 % taller would be more than double its normal height, making it about as tall as an uppercase letter... That would be excessive… Yes, that’s right. I just type “133” into the font editor. Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/ ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode
RE: N'Ko - which character? 02BC vs. 2019
For what it's worth, the N'ko Institute of America uses U+2019. But that is probably a reflection of the font situation and the fact that U+2019 is often more accessible in word processors. http://nkoinstitute.com/the-n-character/ -Original Message- From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Fynn Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 10:13 PM To: Doug Ewell Cc: Markus Scherer; unicode@unicode.org Subject: Re: N'Ko - which character? 02BC vs. 2019 If used as characters that are part of a word, especially when they occur at the beginning or end of a word, ASCII apostrophes and and both right and left quotation marks easily get changed to something else by the auto quotes features of word-processors. ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode
Re: N'Ko - which character? 02BC vs. 2019
On 31 Jan 2015, at 22:04, Markus Scherer markus@gmail.com wrote: Dear Unicoders, which is the proper second character in N'Ko? See below for details. U+2019. It is not a letter in N’Ko. Moreover, the reference fonts for N’Ko didn’t even have U+02BC. For N’Ko, this is not arguable. I would like to point out (perhaps again) that in my Hawaiian, Samoan, and Tongan, editions of Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, and in the forthcoming Hawaiian Hobbit, U+02BB has been drawn 133% taller, but of the same width, as U+2018. I believe this really must be considered good practice. In these novels, with “quotation marks ‘and nested quotation marks’,” making this distinction is really rather essential. Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/ ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode
Re: N'Ko - which character? 02BC vs. 2019
The link did not pass : http://nkoinstitute.com/nko-alphabet/ 2015-02-02 19:54 GMT+01:00 Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr: On this page the N'ko Institute hesitates ans uses U+2018 (‘) in English i.e. the reverse direction. It has advantages that it is used immediately after letter N/n and if ever it appears at end of words, it won't match a pair of single quotation marks (U+2018 is a punctuation only at start of lines, or after whitespaces and punctuations; U+2019 is not always a quotation punctuation after a letter, even if it's followed by whitespace or punctuation, it may also be an orthographic apostrophe). 2015-02-02 19:14 GMT+01:00 Andrew Glass (WINDOWS) andrew.gl...@microsoft.com: For what it's worth, the N'ko Institute of America uses U+2019. But that is probably a reflection of the font situation and the fact that U+2019 is often more accessible in word processors. http://nkoinstitute.com/the-n-character/ -Original Message- From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Fynn Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 10:13 PM To: Doug Ewell Cc: Markus Scherer; unicode@unicode.org Subject: Re: N'Ko - which character? 02BC vs. 2019 If used as characters that are part of a word, especially when they occur at the beginning or end of a word, ASCII apostrophes and and both right and left quotation marks easily get changed to something else by the auto quotes features of word-processors. ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode
Re: N'Ko - which character? 02BC vs. 2019
On this page the N'ko Institute hesitates ans uses U+2018 (‘) in English i.e. the reverse direction. It has advantages that it is used immediately after letter N/n and if ever it appears at end of words, it won't match a pair of single quotation marks (U+2018 is a punctuation only at start of lines, or after whitespaces and punctuations; U+2019 is not always a quotation punctuation after a letter, even if it's followed by whitespace or punctuation, it may also be an orthographic apostrophe). 2015-02-02 19:14 GMT+01:00 Andrew Glass (WINDOWS) andrew.gl...@microsoft.com: For what it's worth, the N'ko Institute of America uses U+2019. But that is probably a reflection of the font situation and the fact that U+2019 is often more accessible in word processors. http://nkoinstitute.com/the-n-character/ -Original Message- From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Fynn Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 10:13 PM To: Doug Ewell Cc: Markus Scherer; unicode@unicode.org Subject: Re: N'Ko - which character? 02BC vs. 2019 If used as characters that are part of a word, especially when they occur at the beginning or end of a word, ASCII apostrophes and and both right and left quotation marks easily get changed to something else by the auto quotes features of word-processors. ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode
Re: N'Ko - which character? 02BC vs. 2019
Markus Scherer markus dot icu at gmail dot com wrote: Dear Unicoders, which is the proper second character in N'Ko? See below for details. -- Forwarded message -- From: Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org For the record, I did not ask on ietf-languages for any re-evaluation of the apostrophe character used in the name N'Ko. My question, and that of the group, was about the apostrophes used in the names of Khoisan and Bantu languages. -- Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, USA | http://ewellic.org ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode
Re: N'Ko - which character? 02BC vs. 2019
If used as characters that are part of a word, especially when they occur at the beginning or end of a word, ASCII apostrophes and and both right and left quotation marks easily get changed to something else by the auto quotes features of word-processors. ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/unicode
