RE: unicode in Mac

[Alan Wood]

Raymond Mercier wrote:

 Given a plain text unicode file, with the opening byte FEFF, and which 
 displays correctly in Notepad on a PC.
 What facility is available on a Mac to make this file  display correctly ?
 I am trying to help a colleague, who has MAC OS IX, and I need to tell him
 
 what font will cover Greek and Extended Greek.
 
You can find my survey of Unicode-aware editors for Mac OS 9 at:

http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/utilities_editors_mac.html

For a font that covers Greek and Greek Extended, you could try Gentium:

http://www.sil.org/~gaultney/gentium/

Alan Wood
http://www.alanwood.net (Unicode, special characters, pesticide names)

Re: unicode in Mac

[Rick McGowan]

Alan Wood wrote:

 For a font that covers Greek and Greek Extended, you could try Gentium:
 http://www.sil.org/~gaultney/gentium/

Or, if you're just looking for a really nice typeface for body text,  
Gentium is a good-looking (and award-winning) design.

Rick

Re: unicode in Mac

[Michael Everson]

At 17:13 + 2003-01-26, Raymond Mercier wrote:

Given a plain text unicode file, with the opening byte FEFF, and 
which displays correctly in Notepad on a PC.

Open it in TextExit? I wouldn't know about the opening byte stuff.
--
Michael Everson * * Everson Typography *  * http://www.evertype.com

Re: unicode in Mac

[Michael \(michka\) Kaplan]

Well, that opening byte is either a BOM or its ZWNBSP. Either way its something you 
would not really
see if the either the app or the rendering engine understand Unicode

MichKa

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 At 17:13 + 2003-01-26, Raymond Mercier wrote:
 Given a plain text unicode file, with the opening byte FEFF, and
 which displays correctly in Notepad on a PC.

 Open it in TextExit? I wouldn't know about the opening byte stuff.
 -- 
 Michael Everson * * Everson Typography *  * http://www.evertype.com

Re: unicode in Mac

[John H. Jenkins]

On Sunday, January 26, 2003, at 10:13 AM, Raymond Mercier wrote:


Given a plain text unicode file, with the opening byte FEFF, and which 
displays correctly in Notepad on a PC.
What facility is available on a Mac to make this file  display 
correctly ?
I am trying to help a colleague, who has MAC OS IX, and I need to tell 
him what font will cover Greek and Extended Greek.


Do you mean Mac OS X, or Mac OS 9?

For the former, TextEdit would work fine.  If your friend is on Mac OS 
X 10.2 or later, the system font, Lucida Grande, has a full set of 
glyphs for Greek and Extended Greek.  Otherwise any of the free Greek 
fonts on the Internet would work.

On Mac OS 9, the situation is a bit grimmer, as there aren't many 
Unicode-savvy applications.  SUE would be one option.  You should be 
able to find it using Google.

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John H. Jenkins
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Re: unicode in Mac

[Raymond Mercier]

Tom Gewecke writes

PS The FEFF could well be the BOM (Byte Order Mark)  which  NotePad puts at
the beginning of UTF-8 encoded files (even though it is not needed or
customary for other apps to do so).  It does not have any significance.


The opening bytes are FF FE ( or FEFF read as a short integer), imposed 
when the file is saved in Word as a plain text unicode.
If these two bytes are deleted the text still opens correctly in Notepad.

The MAC OS is OS 9; my colleague has been put off by an attempt to install 
OS X, although the CD for it came with his new machine.
I am surprised that he should expect such difficulties with OS 9.

Raymond