Spammed by a list member!

2004-11-29 Thread Kevin Brown
On Monday, 29 November 2004 at 8:52 AM, Dean Snyder wrote:

You are getting this email directly because Rick McGowan, the moderator
of the Unicode email list, sent me the following response concerning my
attempt to post the appended message to the Unicode email list:

All threads on Phoenician have been closed on this mail list.
  -- Sarasvati

Personal email traffic could be avoided if we were merely allowed to
discuss this legitimate and timely Unicode issue on the Unicode email
list. In particular I would like responses from members of the Unicode
list to the 3 questions I raise in light of the German DIN rejection of a
separate encoding for Phoenician.

[The recipients of this email are merely some of those whose names I
recognize from reading their posts to the Unicode email list in 2003 or 2004.]

Dear Dean

I personally have not followed the Phoenician thread. While I can understand the
frustration of having a discussion blocked (however valid or invalid the reason)
I think the method you are choosing to continue it is unprofessional.

Grabbing email addresses from our public list is something which I'm sure scores
of spammers do every day. In your desperate enthusiasm for your cause, you have
reduced yourself to their level. You have not even limited yourself to those
involved in the original Phoenecian thread which might have been slightly less
unethical.

The correct procedure would have been for you to announce on the Unicode list
that you are starting a seperate list moderated by you and invite people to join
it on a voluntary basis. I'm sure Rick McGowan and  Sarasvati would have had no
objection to such a posting. (I'm sure they will also allow this one!)

Kevin Brown




Re: Spammed by a list member!

2004-11-29 Thread James Kass

Kevin Brown wrote,

 Dear Dean 
 
 I personally have not followed the Phoenician thread. While I can understand 
 the 
 frustration of having a discussion blocked (however valid or invalid the 
 reason) 
 I think the method you are choosing to continue it is unprofessional. 

We disagree.  Dean Snyder has started an ad-hoc private discussion
list on the subject of Phoenician.  People on his distribution list
who choose to opt-out should do so privately.

Responding to a private post on a public list is considered ill-mannered.

Spam is generally taken to mean unwanted *commercial* e-mail.  Dean's
private posting, whatever else it might be, wasn't commercial.

Best regards,

James Kass



Re: Spammed by a list member!

2004-11-29 Thread Sarasvati
Kevin Brown, James Kass, and others: Please take this off-topic issue
up privately, not on the mail list. People wishing to engage in the
discussion have been alerted, and may do so elsewhere.

Regards,
-- Sarasvati