[UC] The Usual Suspects

2004-01-30 Thread Benseraglio2


I don't doubt that the usual people - Ross Bender, Sande Knight, Andy Diller - will post some boorish and irrelevant reply simply because I'm the person sending this email (go right ahead!  stay in character!), but maybe the rest of you will notice that Al, Liz, Sharrieff and I don't all have the same point of view on very many things - so when we do, I hope that you might take a minute to consider that this might be a subject that deserves a little attention and resolution on the list, not just the "delete" key.
 
YO CHILL OUT MEL! Haven't you noticed that I've been hyping your little "il-legal" mother-in-law joke, which is the funniest thing you've said all year, to the hilt? I hate to bruise your wounded sensibilities even further, but in case you haven't noticed, you ain't the only pig in the poke -- namely, the only person I insult with my boorish and irrelevant replies. GET A LIFE! And a style checker -- that sentence was WAY too long.
 
Love,
 
 

Ross Benderhttp://rossbender.org


[UC] Let CBS know you are joining the Boycott

2004-01-30 Thread BGAndersen
During half time, switch over to CNN to see the add that CBS won't show.

Register for the boycott at:

http://www.moveonvoterfund.org/boycott/

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[UC] Zoning maps

2004-01-30 Thread Krfapt


For those who care...
 
The entire 4300 block between Spruce & Pine -- except for the row along 44th Street -- is zoned R5A "detached and semi-detached duplex dwellings." duplex means two-family. This includes all 43XX Spruce Street Addresses. (The 44th Street row is zoned and used as single-family attached.)
 
If you're interested in the zoning for your own little corner of heaven, go to http://citymaps.phila.gov/citymaps/moisAddressRequest.asp. Oddly, it wasn't working this morning, but it is as I write this now.
 
Al Krigman


[UC] for Dan Myers

2004-01-30 Thread Tina Horowitz








I apologize for posting this to the list but I believe that
my messages to Dan Myers, who is on this list, are not getting through to him. 
If you see this, Dan, and are not getting my other emails please let me know –
thanks - tina








Re: [UC] This Sunday: Birthday Party brings Dickens back to life

2004-01-30 Thread Anthony West
Dave wrote:
> Dickens' novels were extremely popular in Philadelphia, and not
> merely among the literate. They were published in serial form, a few
> chapters at a time, and shipped overseas for redistribution. I've read
> that whenever a new chapter arrived on board an incoming ship,
> crowds would gather at the docks to hear them read aloud.

In 1901, Dickens was a cultural icon to a degree that no modern American can
imagine a "mere author" becoming. His vastly popular tales of humble people
and nitty-gritty struggles in the industrial age had enriched the
imaginations of ordinary people for 50 years or more. He stood head and
shoulders above any other English-language storyteller except, perhaps,
Shakespeare in the esteem of the masses. He was an intergenerational culture
hero that united all classes, races and sexes. He had died not long before
and was still quite fresh in everybody's minds.

The best way to think of the Dickens statue in contemporary terms is to
imagine that Clark Park had just copped a nice, pricey statue of John Lennon
or Steven Spielberg which had been commissioned with London or Hollywood in
mind, but couldn't, by some fluke, be erected there. Imagine that the statue
turned out to be the only statue of John or Steven in the whole wide world,
and stayed that way forever! Most of us would be pretty tickled, I think.

That's doubtless how Clarence Clark felt when he saw this rare opportunity
to snag a free ornament for his park. He had donated the land just six years
earlier. He was quite a mover and shaker in the city then, and it was his
impetus that steered the statue to our neighborhood.

Dickens is as natural to Spruce Hill's middlebrow Victorian décor as are the
faux cornices and kitchen stairways and stained-glass windows and pillared
porches and lion's-foot bathtubs 

-- Tony West




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[UC] Can rent/sale emails be posted on the list (WAS Lancaster Avenue opportunity)

2004-01-30 Thread MLamond
In a message dated 1/30/2004 3:54:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< The posting that originated this thread could be deleted with a single 
 keystroke.  The endless arguments for and against it required a far more 
 intensive use of the delete key >>

Gerardo and fellow listserv members, the problem is NOT that the rest of us 
couldn't delete Tanya's message.  The problem is that a number of us on the 
list are real estate professionals, either Realtors involved in University City 
sales (Liz Campion mentioned us) or professional landlords (like Al Krigman - 
and also, for example, Jeff Abrahamson, the keeper of the list, and many other 
"small" landlords whose names I see on this list).  And as you can see by the 
responses on this topic, at least a few of us "in the business" feel a bit 
betrayed because WE use good manners - no self-serving commerce on this 
discussion list - but every now and then, an individual property owner is able to 
circumvent the channels which cost money and have HIS/HER property advertised for 
free to all of you on this list!  Obviously we professionals think that the 
members of this list are potential users of our products - potential renters 
and/or buyers - or it wouldn't matter to us.  We value you as potential customers, 
and we respect this list as a place which we should NOT invade with 
sales/rent messages.  You don't see Al posting apartments for rent here, or Liz, Chris 
O'Donnell or me telling you about houses for sale here.  We don't do that, 
because you have told us it's inappropriate.  If we want to advertise, we pay for 
our ads.  And we think that paying for ads is fair - for us, and all others 
who need to advertise rentals and sales.

I didn't say anything at first - I respond far too frequently on this list, I 
know - but when I read Tanya's post, I felt smacked in the face!  Urban & 
Bye's office where I work is IN TANYA'S CORRIDOR, and the property she is 
advertising may be on our very block - yet she never advertises for US!  And we don't 
expect her to!  Tanya is a very nice person and I appreciate her work on 
Lancaster Ave. and Eli Massar's on Baltimore Ave.  I don't want to be critical, 
but I think that Sharrieff, Al, Liz, etc. are simply trying to ask the rest of 
you exactly where you draw  the line here - why can SOME rentals or sales be 
advertised, but not others?  Are WE, the professionals allowed to post also?  We 
think you don't want our ads - but then, why can an individual advertise?  

O'Donnell Real Estate and Urban & Bye are located in the two corridors and do 
business pretty much exclusively in University City.  We do what I think the 
corridor managers hope businesses here will do:  we keep attractive, 
well-maintained commercial storefronts, promote local products, and provide services 
for University City residents and other interested parties.  And as Liz was 
suggesting, we also put some of our profits back into University City: we donate 
to local causes, sign up new homebuyers as members of local community groups, 
sponsor community events, give our time to local activities and boards, 
entertain our clients in local restaurants, and recommend local contractors and other 
local businesses to new residents.  Our welfare is tied to that of University 
City, so we do our best for University City, as we have done for many years.  
Why, then, would the list encourage individuals to circumvent our services?  
Why would the list not support us?

I don't doubt that the usual people - Ross Bender, Sande Knight, Andy Diller 
- will post some boorish and irrelevant reply simply because I'm the person 
sending this email (go right ahead!  stay in character!), but maybe the rest of 
you will notice that Al, Liz, Sharrieff and I don't all have the same point of 
view on very many things - so when we do, I hope that you might take a minute 
to consider that this might be a subject that deserves a little attention and 
resolution on the list, not just the "delete" key.  And if your decision is 
that we can ALL post our sales and rentals, then let us know!

Melani Lamond

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[UC] Warning- Culture for Kids

2004-01-30 Thread Fred Wolfe
I hate to interrupt the usual bickering with something as trivial as fun, 
but-

One of the members of our parish just clued me in to a free dance 
performance  which is happening tomorrow at the Kimmel Center for 
Performing Arts. The performance will be by Group Motion Company, in the 
lobby of the Kimmel. It begins at noon, and is geared toward families with 
children. Sounds like a good way to spend a chilly Saturday afternoon. Enjoy!!!

Fred Wolfe, Parish Administrator
University Lutheran Church of the Incarnation
Chestnut Street at 37th Street Walk
215.387.2885
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  www.uniluphila.org

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RE: [UC] New West Phila High School

2004-01-30 Thread Turner,Kathleen
A further argument that could be made against this location for what seems to be 
intended as a "showcase" high school is the dearth of public transportation in that 
area (which also comes to mind when I think about the plans to move the Please Touch 
Museum to Memorial Hall).

The majority of the students in the city who attend the "magnet" high schools as 
opposed to their neighborhood school depend on public transportation to get there -- 
it would certainly make sense to build near a major transportation line.

On the other hand, regarding the MCP site -- the better choice to look at would be the 
state-owned EPPI property right next to it on Henry Avenue.  It's considerably larger, 
and MUCH flatter, than the MCP site with enough space for a good-sized school with 
athletic facilities.  And there is absolutely no question that the psychiatric 
hospital is closing.  And hey, from a psychiatric hospital to a high school -- that's 
not to big a jump!!!

Kathleen

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From: J. Matthew Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 3:21 PM
To: 'Frishkoff, Andrew'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [UC] New West Phila High School


It would be good for the school district if a school as outlined in the article is 
built.  It would be good for West Philadelphia if it was built in West Philly.  I am 
not saying that I am against the proposed location, but I would say that we should be 
careful before we commit to pave over any of Fairmount Park for any purpose.  It is 
ALWAYS easier to build something in a park, since the land is almost by definition 
already clear, free (in a manner of speaking) and does not involve relocating other 
uses.  It does, however, permanently remove open parkland.  In a densely populated 
urban area open space is very valuable.  I cannot believe that there are not other 
sites.  Off the top of my head, there was a plan to bring Carver High School for 
Science and Engineering to one of the parking
lots in the vicinity of 38th & Market.  That land is still vacant.  The old Mercy 
Douglas Hospital on Woodland Avenue near 49th I believe is still vacant and has been 
for years.  In today's paper, Tenet said that they would give (for $1) the MCP 
hospital site to any hospital or the city or state that wants to run the hospital - 
maybe they would not give it for another use, but regardless it looks like that site 
will be vacant.  The point is that there are, conservatively speaking, a million sites 
in Philadelphia where you could build a school and it would be an IMPROVEMENT to the 
surrounding area, whereas there is a downside to building on parkland.

A landscape architect friend of mine spoke of being shown a map of Central Park in New 
York that had superimposed on it all of the various proposals to build things in that 
park over the years.  Had they all been built, they would have virtually completely 
covered the park.

Again, maybe this is the best plan.  I am only saying that there had better be a good 
reason.

Matt Wolfe

_
 
J. Matthew Wolfe
Law Office of Alice W. Ballard, P.C.
1700 Lewis Tower
225 South 15th Street
Philadelphia, PA  19102
(215) 893-9990
Fax:  (215) 893-9997
 
4256 Regent Square
Philadelphia, PA  19104
(215) 387-7300


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frishkoff, Andrew
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 1:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [UC] New West Phila High School


The print version of the Inquirer shows what I believe is the correct site:  just 
north and east of the intersections of Girard, Parkside, Concourse Drive and 40th 
Street.  This is northwest of the zoo and west of the I-76 ramp.  It is one of the few 
available sites in the area that could accommodate a new school, other than some 
former industrial sites that would probably not be as desirable.
 
Andy Frishkoff

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [UC] New West Phila High School


From today's Inky 

 :

The Philadelphia School District wants to build its highly touted new 
high school in partnership with Microsoft Corp. in West Fairmount Park, across from 
the Philadelphia Zoo.
[. . . .]
The proposed site - which was recommended by Mayor Street's office - 
is adjacent to Girard Avenue and bordered by 34th Street and Parkside Avenue in an 
underused section of the park just south of Memorial Hall.

Where?  Maybe I'm geographically challenged, so work with me here.  According 
to Mapquest, Parkside ends on the east at Girard near 40th St.  Last time I checked, 
Memorial Hall was still west of where 42nd St. h

Re: [UC] New West Phila High School

2004-01-30 Thread William H. Magill
On 30 Jan, 2004, at 13:29, Frishkoff, Andrew wrote:
The print version of the Inquirer shows what I believe is the correct 
site:  just north and east of the intersections of Girard, Parkside, 
Concourse Drive and 40th Street.  This is northwest of the zoo and 
west of the I-76 ramp.  It is one of the few available sites in the 
area that could accommodate a new school, other than some former 
industrial sites that would probably not be as desirable.
I don't know how "rational" the site is...

The Inquirer map does NOT show Lansdowne Drive, and incorrectly shows 
"Concourse Drive" terminating at Parkside... It does, but it is North 
Concourse Drive which curves around that way. South Concourse Drive is 
not shown... (Yes, there are two Concourse drives) South Concourse is 
the one which crosses and converts into Lansdowne Drive and intersects 
Girard at 34th. (Lansdowne Drive also curves at the Smith Memorial and 
goes behind Memorial Hall.)

The site is apparently at 39th and Parkside -- which is adjacent to the 
Girard Avenue Expressway (I-76) entrance and exit (nominally 38th). 
[One assumes it is the site to the west of the entrance, closer to 
Memorial Hall, and not the one to the right, across from the Zoo 
parking lots.]

All of this is nowhere near "south of Memorial Hall" -- which is up at 
what would be 43rd Street. [While it is "south" of Memorial Hall, it is 
way to the east of Memorial Hall.]

My biggest issue with the use of Fairmount Park land for any such 
effort is that it has nothing to do with the Park, it is anything but a 
recreational or scenic facility -- and it is Park Land ... not a vacant 
city lot ... "underused" or not.

The choice of the location is also not particularly accessible for 
anyone not living in the catchment area - assumed to be walking 
distance. And if the catchment area is to be Manuta and Powelton (Mill 
Creek is a long way away) "walking distance" is a LONG walk. ... except 
by automobile. The Trolley does run down Girard, but it is a LONG trip 
from the Broad Street Subway, or multiple vehicles from the Market 
Frankford line.

Then there is the question -- Why another "demonstration school" in 
West Philadelphia? Why not in Kensington or North Philadelphia where 
the schools are in even worse condition?

Granted, the City already owns the park land, and therefore would have 
zero acquisition costs, which they would likely face in any other area, 
but once the park land is gone, it's gone -- "They aren't making any 
more of it."

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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RE: [UC] New West Phila High School

2004-01-30 Thread Knight, Sandra \(US - Philadelphia\)
Title: Message



is adjacent to Girard Avenue and bordered by 34th Street and Parkside 
Avenue in an underused section of the park just south of Memorial Hall.
 
the 
person who wrote this never lived here before this job w/ the Inky and doesn't 
plan to stay
 

Sande 
Knight tel. 215-246-2424 fax 
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From today's Inky:

The Philadelphia School District wants to build its highly touted new high school in partnership with Microsoft Corp. in West Fairmount Park, across from the Philadelphia Zoo.
[. . . .]
The proposed site - which was recommended by Mayor Street's office - is adjacent to Girard Avenue and bordered by 34th Street and Parkside Avenue in an underused section of the park just south of Memorial Hall.
Where?  Maybe I'm geographically challenged, so work with me here.  According to Mapquest, Parkside ends on the east at Girard near 40th St.  Last time I checked, Memorial Hall was still west of where 42nd St. hits Parkside.  So are they planning to build it south of Memorial Hall (I hope not--there's not that much open space between it and Parkside) or across from the zoo at 34th & Girard?  These locations may look close together from Redmond, but one would think the Mayor's Office or The Inquirer could tell the difference.
 
Bruce McCullough 
 
 
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Re: [UC] Lancaster Avenue opportunity

2004-01-30 Thread Gerardo Razumney
The posting that originated this thread could be deleted with a single 
keystroke.  The endless arguments for and against it required a far more 
intensive use of the delete key; setting up a filter also requires extra 
effort.  Please, let's dedicate our seemingly unlimited posting energies 
to something useful and meaningful!

Gerardo Razumney


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RE: [UC] New West Phila High School

2004-01-30 Thread J. Matthew Wolfe
It would be good for the school district if a school as outlined in the
article is built.  It would be good for West Philadelphia if it was built in
West Philly.  I am not saying that I am against the proposed location, but I
would say that we should be careful before we commit to pave over any of
Fairmount Park for any purpose.  It is ALWAYS easier to build something in a
park, since the land is almost by definition already clear, free (in a
manner of speaking) and does not involve relocating other uses.  It does,
however, permanently remove open parkland.  In a densely populated urban
area open space is very valuable.  I cannot believe that there are not other
sites.  Off the top of my head, there was a plan to bring Carver High School
for Science and Engineering to one of the parking lots in the vicinity of
38th & Market.  That land is still vacant.  The old Mercy Douglas Hospital
on Woodland Avenue near 49th I believe is still vacant and has been for
years.  In today's paper, Tenet said that they would give (for $1) the MCP
hospital site to any hospital or the city or state that wants to run the
hospital - maybe they would not give it for another use, but regardless it
looks like that site will be vacant.  The point is that there are,
conservatively speaking, a million sites in Philadelphia where you could
build a school and it would be an IMPROVEMENT to the surrounding area,
whereas there is a downside to building on parkland.

A landscape architect friend of mine spoke of being shown a map of Central
Park in New York that had superimposed on it all of the various proposals to
build things in that park over the years.  Had they all been built, they
would have virtually completely covered the park.

Again, maybe this is the best plan.  I am only saying that there had better
be a good reason.

Matt Wolfe

_
 
J. Matthew Wolfe
Law Office of Alice W. Ballard, P.C.
1700 Lewis Tower
225 South 15th Street
Philadelphia, PA  19102
(215) 893-9990
Fax:  (215) 893-9997
 
4256 Regent Square
Philadelphia, PA  19104
(215) 387-7300


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Subject: RE: [UC] New West Phila High School


The print version of the Inquirer shows what I believe is the correct site:
just north and east of the intersections of Girard, Parkside, Concourse
Drive and 40th Street.  This is northwest of the zoo and west of the I-76
ramp.  It is one of the few available sites in the area that could
accommodate a new school, other than some former industrial sites that would
probably not be as desirable.
 
Andy Frishkoff

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Fri 1/30/2004 10:51 AM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [UC] New West Phila High School


From today's Inky
 :

The Philadelphia School District wants to build its highly
touted new high school in partnership with Microsoft Corp. in West Fairmount
Park, across from the Philadelphia Zoo.
[. . . .]
The proposed site - which was recommended by Mayor Street's
office - is adjacent to Girard Avenue and bordered by 34th Street and
Parkside Avenue in an underused section of the park just south of Memorial
Hall.

Where?  Maybe I'm geographically challenged, so work with me here.
According to Mapquest, Parkside ends on the east at Girard near 40th St.
Last time I checked, Memorial Hall was still west of where 42nd St. hits
Parkside.  So are they planning to build it south of Memorial Hall (I hope
not--there's not that much open space between it and Parkside) or across
from the zoo at 34th & Girard?  These locations may look close together from
Redmond, but one would think the Mayor's Office or The Inquirer could tell
the difference.
 
Bruce McCullough 
 
 


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Re: [UC] New West Phila High School

2004-01-30 Thread daveaxler
In a message dated 1/30/2004 10:51:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, BruceWMcC writes:

> The proposed site - which was recommended by Mayor Street's office - is adjacent to 
> Girard Avenue and bordered by 34th Street and Parkside Avenue in an underused 
> section of the park just south of Memorial Hall.
> Where?  Maybe I'm geographically challenged, so work with me here.  According to 
> Mapquest, Parkside ends on the east at Girard near 40th St.  Last time I checked, 
> Memorial Hall was still west of where 42nd St. hits Parkside.  So are they planning 
> to build it south of Memorial Hall (I hope not--there's not that much open space 
> between it and Parkside) or across from the zoo at 34th & Girard?  These locations 
> may look close together from Redmond, but one would think the Mayor's 
> Office or The Inquirer could tell the difference.

The Inky's phrasing is a bit confusing. I believe, however, that their intention was 
to indicate that the eastern border of the property in question is 34th Street 
(specifically, the section of 34th that extends North of Girard Avenue, and which then 
turns roughly West and heads toward Memorial Hall under the name of Lansdowne Drive), 
and a second, intersecting border is Parkside Avenue, at the western end of the land 
in question. Girard Avenue would, indeed, form a Southern border for such a plot.

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Re: [UC] This Sunday: Birthday Party brings Dickens back to life

2004-01-30 Thread daveaxler
In a message dated 1/30/2004 12:04:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> Anthony West writes:
> > Dickens was a literary superstar when Spruce Hill was being
> > developed. Clark Park embraces the world's only life-sized statue of
> > him (with his beloved character Little Nell), so every year the FoCP
> > throws a party to honor his legacy.
> 
> Pardon my ignorance, but I've lived here for years and have never been 
> able to figure out what Dickens' connection to this area was.  Did he
> visit the area, or is there some Dickens book I haven't read that talks
> about Spruce Hill?  How did the neighborhood come to have 
> this statue?
>

Dickens' novels were extremely popular in Philadelphia, and not merely among the 
literate. They were published in serial form, a few chapters at a time, and shipped 
overseas for redistribution. I've read that whenever a new chapter arrived on board an 
incoming ship, crowds would gather at the docks to hear them read aloud.

Dickens' will actually specified that there be no statues of him be erected. His fans 
in Philadelphia chose to ignore that request, which is why our statue is unique.

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Re: [UC] This Sunday: Birthday Party brings Dickens back to life

2004-01-30 Thread Daniel Flaumenhaft
Pardon my ignorance, but I've lived here for years and have never been
able to figure out what Dickens' connection to this area was.  Did he
visit the area, or is there some Dickens book I haven't read that talks
about Spruce Hill?  How did the neighborhood come to have this statue?
Not incredibly helpful, but this was all I could find quickly:

"Originally commissioned by the Washington newspaper publisher Stilson 
Hutchins When the publisher was unable to pay for the completion of 
the work, [sculptor] Frank Edwin Elwell returned the money and took the 
work to England in the hope of finding a buyer. Instead, he discovered 
that Dickens' will prohibited any "monument, memorial, or testimonial, 
whatever. I rest my claims to remembrance on my published works and to 
the remembrance of my friends upon their experience of me." Elwell 
returned to America to exhibit the work at the World's Columbian 
Exposition of 1893 [in Chicago], where it was awarded two gold medals. 
After four years of neglect, the Fairmount Park Art Association 
purchased the sculpture in 1900 and installed it in Clark Park in 1901. 
After vandals damaged the sculpture in 1989, the Friends of Clark Park 
raised funds for its repair."

-- Penny Balkin Bach, *Public Art in Philadelphia*, Temple University 
Press (Philadelphia: 1992)

I don't know if Dickens ever was in West Philadelphia, but he certainly 
visited the city several times, and it is mentioned in his writings. 
He's said (almost certainly incorrectly) to have given Fishtown its 
name.

I'm bccing a friend who works at the Fairmount Park Art Association in 
case she knows more about why they bought this particular work and 
chose this particular location.

Daniel


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Re: [UC] Lancaster Avenue opportunity

2004-01-30 Thread Elizabeth F. Campion

As a Realtor, I weigh in against Tanya's post.

I believe experienced Realtor's provide a set of skills and services that
profit most of our clients more than any possible savings on commissions.
 The National Association of Realtors has done surveys which consistently
document this as a statistical reality.  Our average Seller client has a
much larger profit than the average FSBO (for sale by owner).  Our
average Buyer client finds out about things as they are being listed, not
after they have hit the MLS. In this market, a house can go under
agreement as fast as a secretary can input the data and wait for it to
cycle into the system (which takes about a full business day).  In
addition to profit or opportunity, the client who has a busy life, gets
safety and extra hours of access by leaving the showings to us.

In this specific instance, there are UC Realtors whose offices are on the
UCD promoted corridors.  O'Donnell R.E. is on Baltimore Ave and Urban &
Bye is on Lancaster Ave.  I think it is bad form for UCD to help an out
of area investor (the 232 extensions tells me this owner's phone is East
of the Schuykill and North of Market St) ay bypassing local businesses. 
The balance of the Agents living and working in the area includes people
who could easily make it from Chestnut Street or Springfield Avenue to
Lancaster Avenue.  We have roots here and volunteer here.  For us
Realtors : the reality for most of us is that our giving is limited by
our incomes.  Some of us give more than others.  And some of our clients
have made their decisions with notice of this.  Bypassing us reduces our
income and can create hard feelings.   For this Owner: choosing a Broker
to market his property (even rentals) gains him access to the MLS
(including www.Realtor.com) which is a much larger and more specifically
functioned list.

I write this noting two things.
One, I have met and admire Tanya and I wish her and Lancaster Avenue
every success.
Two, I have made similar posting decisions on behalf of Tenants who are
elderly or frail and without access to the time, money or computers that
make apartment searching viable.  I think PENN's OCL is a wonderful tool
for tenants, but if you don't use computers or can't get to 40th and
Walnut before 4 PM, there is little out there to help tenants.  Also, I
only make such posts when I am acting in a pro bono capacity.  Since
Tanya is salaried, no matter how enthusiastic or well intentioned her
rental post, it is diminished in my eyes.

I guess on a scale of postings I do not consider Tanya's posting a
"mortal sin" but do think her energy should not be spent defending the
post.  They could be spent promoting a synergy of new business with
existing Realtor Agencies.

All the best in 2004 and beyond!

Liz

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:09:14 -0500 "Tanya Washington"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Shariff,
> 
> I discussed with you previously why I posted this listing before as
> part of my business recruitment effort. Please refer to the previous
> response.   UCD does not have a policy of posting all the available
> real estate listings, otherwise you would have seen far more than
> this one. I am assisting a new property owner who is working with the
> corridor team to make a substantial investment in this building and
> is eager to find a community-friendly tenant.
> 
> Tanya Washington
> University City District
> >
> >
> > Original Message 
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: [UC] Lancaster Avenue opportunity
> >Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:25:49 -0500
> >
> >>Again Tanya, Why is UCD posting Real Estate Rental Listings
> >>on the listserv's?
> >>S.
> >> 
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tanya
> >Washington
> >>Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:12 PM
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: [UC] Lancaster Avenue opportunity
> >> 
> >>Please pass along to any interested parties.  Do not respond to
> >>me-please call phone number listed below.
> >>Tanya Washington
> >>Lancaster Avenue Corridor Manager
> >>University City District
> >>
> >
> >>
> >>For rent or lease: first-floor commercial space available in early
> >2004;
> >>prime location in the "Lancaster corridor" between U Penn and 
> Drexel
> >U,
> >>near the Community Education Center and Powelton Village in West
> >>Philadelphia. Conveniently located to public transportation; easy
> >>on-street parking. Approximately 700 square feet; central air,
> >direct
> >>basement storage possible; small rear garden area and front porch
> >>setback. Perfect for artist studio, writer's office, or 
> professional
> >>service provider. Non-profit organizations encouraged to apply. 
> Rent
> >>negotiable on sliding scale dependent on occupant use. To view
> >please
> >>call Bill at 21

RE: [UC] New West Phila High School

2004-01-30 Thread Frishkoff, Andrew
The print version of the Inquirer shows what I believe is the correct site:  just 
north and east of the intersections of Girard, Parkside, Concourse Drive and 40th 
Street.  This is northwest of the zoo and west of the I-76 ramp.  It is one of the few 
available sites in the area that could accommodate a new school, other than some 
former industrial sites that would probably not be as desirable.
 
Andy Frishkoff

-Original Message- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Fri 1/30/2004 10:51 AM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [UC] New West Phila High School


From today's Inky 

 :

The Philadelphia School District wants to build its highly touted new 
high school in partnership with Microsoft Corp. in West Fairmount Park, across from 
the Philadelphia Zoo.
[. . . .]
The proposed site - which was recommended by Mayor Street's office - 
is adjacent to Girard Avenue and bordered by 34th Street and Parkside Avenue in an 
underused section of the park just south of Memorial Hall.

Where?  Maybe I'm geographically challenged, so work with me here.  According 
to Mapquest, Parkside ends on the east at Girard near 40th St.  Last time I checked, 
Memorial Hall was still west of where 42nd St. hits Parkside.  So are they planning to 
build it south of Memorial Hall (I hope not--there's not that much open space between 
it and Parkside) or across from the zoo at 34th & Girard?  These locations may look 
close together from Redmond, but one would think the Mayor's Office or The Inquirer 
could tell the difference.
 
Bruce McCullough 
 
 


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Re: [UC] Lancaster Avenue opportunity

2004-01-30 Thread Richard Hotchkiss
Title: Re: [UC] Lancaster Avenue opportunity



I agree with Jim. I think it puts the list members at a distinct  advantage if they know what's available to them. Delete is only a stroke away.  Anyway, anyone who puts their website in their signature is advertising ;-)>

Richard Hotchkiss
http://www.hotstrings-inc.com



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:00:13 EST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UC] Lancaster Avenue opportunity


I think posting something like this is on the list is fine.

Jim Lilly    






[UC] Need immdiate housing for ill friend

2004-01-30 Thread Tina Horowitz








I have a very difficult problem and need help and
suggestions.  I have a 33 year old friend who is chronically ill (not
contagious)  and had to stop working due to her illness.  She comes
from an abusive family and is afraid to return to them.  She also has two
dogs whom she loves like children.  She was evicted from her apartment in
my building 6 months ago and came to stay with me in my living room.  Because
she was an evicted tenant, however, she cannot stay in the building and now she
has to leave. She is terrified and does not know what to do. She has NO MONEY
to pay for rent and has helped me with cleaning, cooking, petsitting, etc.. in
return for housing.  Does anyone know of anyone who could help her? Either
take her and the dogs into an extra room or refer her to a church,
organization, etc.. who might be able to find housing for her?   Thanks
in advance for any advice - Tina








Re: [UC] Lancaster Avenue opportunity

2004-01-30 Thread Brian Siano
Alex de Soto wrote:

Tanya,

I suggest that you add the following to the subject line of your e-mails for
your commercial listings so that listserv readers (or any others that did
not "opt in") may delete the message if they judge it to be spam:
	(ADV)

	-or better yet-

	(ADVERTISEMENT)

This also allows the listserv administrator to delete commercial
advertisements from the list if such advertising is unacceptable.
I think this might be a good policy for the list. It's not a big deal to 
set up filters for such messages, and Alex's idea is perfectly 
reasonable. However, I'd prefer that the listserv administrator not get 
in the business of screening such posts.

Personally. I had no problem with Tanya's posting, mainly because it was 
community-oriented, and let me know about something I wouldn't otherwise 
know about. And many of us are interested in opening a business in the 
area. In general, the occasional ad isn't a bad thing. (However, if a 
landlord began hitting the list with continual Openings for Rent, I 
think we'd be within our rights to ask that he or she Cease and Desist.)


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Re: [UC] This Sunday: Birthday Party brings Dickens back to life

2004-01-30 Thread Matthew Snyder
Anthony West writes:
> Dickens was a literary superstar when Spruce Hill was being
> developed. Clark Park embraces the world's only life-sized statue of
> him (with his beloved character Little Nell), so every year the FoCP
> throws a party to honor his legacy.

Pardon my ignorance, but I've lived here for years and have never been 
able to figure out what Dickens' connection to this area was.  Did he
visit the area, or is there some Dickens book I haven't read that talks
about Spruce Hill?  How did the neighborhood come to have this statue?

--
Matthew Snyder
Philadelphia, PA

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Re: [UC] Lancaster Avenue opportunity

2004-01-30 Thread Lillja
I think posting something like this is on the list is fine.

Jim Lilly