RE: [UC] get together

[Dubin, Elisabeth]

This is an interesting development (people wanting to know who eachother actually is). 
 Maybe there should be a requirement that if you want to post to the list, you must 
email a real picture of yourself to be posted on the list.purple.com website.  That 
way, people can see you around and we can all be held accountable for what we say 
here!  Oooh, maybe that would even cut down the traffic on this list.  Hmm.



ELISABETH DUBIN  hillierARCHITECTURE
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I might just go to the brunch, and lurk.  I think it will be much more 
disturbing in the world of brick and mortar.

Pete


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[UC] get together

[Pete Coyle]

I might just go to the brunch, and lurk.  I think it will be much more 
disturbing in the world of brick and mortar.

Pete


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Re: [UC] Re: A get together? Why not this sunday?

[BGAndersen]

I just checked out the website:

http://www.abbracciorestaurant.com/menu.htm

Is everyone getting there at 11:00 am. Brunch runs until 2:30 pm ...

In a message dated 2/27/2004 11:09:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 
> how does 11:00 sound for everyone?
> 
> Surely you jest.  When do you have time to have that cup of coffee or
> tea and read some of the paper?
> 
> Sande Knight
> tel. 215-246-2424
> fax 215-405-3178
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
>   Subj:  RE: [UC] Re: A get together? Why not this sunday?
>   Date:  2/27/2004 8:40:11 AM Eastern Standard Time
>   From:  "Kyle Cassidy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   To:  "Richard Hotchkiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   Cc:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> that sounds good to me. christy and i have no plans on sunday apart from
> brunch with you fine folks at abbraccio. we shall return with an unbiased
> report of the dining experience. the sunday buffet begins at 11:00. how does
> 11:00 sound for everyone? i notice though the vegetarian options on the
> buffet are practically nonexistant. (i'm not sure i feel like paying $10 for
> a big plate of pasta salad or granola). does anybody know if you can order
> off of the regular menu during the buffet?
> 
> Kyle
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Hotchkiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 9:48 PM
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [UC] Re: A get together? Why not?
> 
> 
> That would be a nice idea.  How about Sunday brunch at Abbraccios?
> I think many people on this list are already brunching there, from the
> snippets of conversation I've heard there.  I too don't know most people's
> faces.
> Besides, yuppie or not, Abbraccio's has kick-ass praline syrup for the
> waffles and french toast.
> Okay, now I've done it, I'll never get a job at Clear Channel now.
> 
> Holly
> Got Music?  http://www.hotstrings-inc.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Mark Krull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Mark Krull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 20:00:23 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
> To: "Tancredi,Sue M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [UC] A get togather?? Perhaps??
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Say how about a list get togather sometime.
> I would like to see the faces with the email...??
> When..well early everning or on a lazy Sunday??
> 
> Thanks
> Mark
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Tancredi, Sue M."
> Sent: Feb 26, 2004 5:16 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [UC] Abbraccio Restaurant
> 
> agreed.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 4:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [UC] Abbraccio Restaurant
> 
> You must not know the same ABBRACCIO I know!!!
> But then, I guess I'm a liitle in favor of a nice, moderately priced, good
> food, restaurant.
> And...there's no way, under anyone's definition, can I be classified as a
> "YUPPIE"
> Beth A. Showell
> 
> 
> 


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[UC] FWD: 38th Street at the Three-IN-One (avenues that is) Advisory

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Here is a traffic advisory from the University--

>>Starting Friday 2/27 and up to and including Wednesday 3/3/04, southbound 
>>University traffic will be reduced a single running lane due to
installation 
>>of a sewer line at the University/Woodland/Baltimore Ave. intersection. 
>>Delays should be expected and it is recommended that you avoid driving in 
>>this area. University Police Officers will be on site for traffic
control. 
> 
>-- 
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>Office of City and Community Relations 
>OGCPA-Office of the President 
>215-898-3565 
>fax 215-898-0529 
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Re: [UC] Howard Stern suspended

[Brian Siano]

Knight, Sandra (US - Philadelphia) wrote:

O.K. Fern ... next you're going to claim that the Nairobi Trio's hot 
single was "Hotcakes and Sausage."

Damn...you know he was superb.  What's your point?  Did you ever try to
fake being sick so you could stay home from school just to be able to
watch his show?
 

I hope y'all know that the Trio channel, as part of its "Brilliant but 
Cancelled" series, has been running old Ernie Koacs shows fairly 
frequently. (That series also includes _Kolchak: The Night Stalker_, 
which stretches the "brilliant" criteria just a tad.)

Now, if someone would just release _Our Man in Havana_ on DVD: Kovacs in 
a film with Alex Guinness, and Burl Ives, directed by Carol Reed, and 
written by Graham Greene.


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RE: [UC] Abbraccio Restaurant

[Knight, Sandra \(US - Philadelphia\)]

<...the waiter kept bugging us about the check because he wanted to
leave and then
they turned the heat way down on the room and froze us out!  On top of
that my food (seafood) was extremely overcooked or left too long under
the
warmer - in fact, almost every time my food has been consistently
overcooked...>

Your story saddens me because my experiences at Abbraccio have been so
good.  My only reservation is that it is not like the places in South
Philadelphia where they overload your plate and give you the option of
stuffing yourself...at a cheap price.  Instead you are treated to a
lovely meal that is handsomely presented on the plate at the high end of
the reasonable price range.  Good place if you're trying to follow
portion control.  (Phooey and double phooey!)

Incidentally, the take-outs in that area do not offer ptomaine poisoning
with their fare.  I have eaten take-out from Dahlak and Lucky's for over
11 years and never suffered any problems with preparation.  Lucky's is
now run by a different family and my opinion is that the new cook is not
as good as the cook who recently left.  VienTienne (sp?) is too new to
judge.  Only been there three times.  Excellent every time.  BUT THEY
DON'T TAKE CREDIT OR DEBIT CARDS.  And I do not like to carry much, if
any, cash.  So I never patronize that place. 

Sande Knight
tel. 215-246-2424
fax 215-405-3178
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> This thread is disheartening, even to me who isn't shy about being critical 
> (or is it cynical?) ... although I do try to stick to "political" issues.
> 
> Maybe you like Abbraccio. Maybe you don't. Maybe you're passing judgements 
> just to make a fool of yourself because it's clear you don't know anything about 
> the joint.
> 
> But a couple of local denizens have put their own money on the line (as 
> opposed to signing authorizations to spending other people's dough) and are trying 
> very hard to provide what they think is missing in the neighborhood. If what 
> they're providing isn't what you personally would like, or what you think would 
> benefit the area, why badmouth them rather than offer your suggestions in a 
> positive way?
> 
> It's obvious they're trying very hard. Coming up with lots of new ideas. Some 
> are bound to fly. Some to crash. Maybe you think your ideas are better. 
> Great. Tell them about it. They'll probably take the paths down which they've 
> started -- evolving those that seem to be successful and eventually figuring out 
> that others may have seemed good on paper but just aren't working. As this 
> process proceeds, suggestions by actual and potential patrons will undoubtedly 
> influence their thinking.
> 
> But, of course, you all know this.
> 
> You want to help shape a restaurant close by that meets your needs and wants? 
> Roger Harmon's email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, if you are referring at all to my post I don't consider relaying my
poor experiences badmouthing.  I gave the place a shot 6 or so times (much
more than I would given any other restaurant outside of our neighborhood)
and I was disappointed each time by both the food and service - two
critical areas a restaurant should pay particular attention to.

Our last experience there was with our two nieces and we were the last
diners in the family area and I guess we were taking too long because the
waiter kept bugging us about the check because he wanted to leave and then
they turned the heat way down on the room and froze us out!  On top of
that my food (seafood) was extremely overcooked or left too long under the
warmer - in fact, almost every time my food has been consistently
overcooked.  Some like it that way - paranoid about germs I guess - but
not me.  I doubt the owners are unaware of these fundamental problems with
their wait and kitchen staff.  If they need my constructive criticisms in
this area then they have much larger problems.

If the prices were 20% less I probably wouldn't have as much a problem
with it but the place isn't cheap and I normally don't consider going out
to dinner a charity event.  My belief is that they should be judged the
same as any other restaurant.

-- 
Sam Nicolary


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RE: [UC] Re: A get together? Why not this sunday?

[Knight, Sandra \(US - Philadelphia\)]

how does 11:00 sound for everyone?

Surely you jest.  When do you have time to have that cup of coffee or
tea and read some of the paper?

Sande Knight
tel. 215-246-2424
fax 215-405-3178
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that sounds good to me. christy and i have no plans on sunday apart from
brunch with you fine folks at abbraccio. we shall return with an unbiased
report of the dining experience. the sunday buffet begins at 11:00. how does
11:00 sound for everyone? i notice though the vegetarian options on the
buffet are practically nonexistant. (i'm not sure i feel like paying $10 for
a big plate of pasta salad or granola). does anybody know if you can order
off of the regular menu during the buffet?

Kyle


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From: Richard Hotchkiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 9:48 PM
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UC] Re: A get together? Why not?


That would be a nice idea.  How about Sunday brunch at Abbraccios? 
I think many people on this list are already brunching there, from the
snippets of conversation I've heard there.  I too don't know most people's
faces.  
Besides, yuppie or not, Abbraccio's has kick-ass praline syrup for the
waffles and french toast.
Okay, now I've done it, I'll never get a job at Clear Channel now.

Holly
Got Music?  http://www.hotstrings-inc.com




From: Mark Krull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mark Krull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 20:00:23 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
To: "Tancredi,Sue M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UC] A get togather?? Perhaps??




Say how about a list get togather sometime.
I would like to see the faces with the email...??
When..well early everning or on a lazy Sunday??

Thanks
Mark


-Original Message- 
From: "Tancredi, Sue M." 
Sent: Feb 26, 2004 5:16 PM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: [UC] Abbraccio Restaurant 

agreed.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 4:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UC] Abbraccio Restaurant

You must not know the same ABBRACCIO I know!!!
But then, I guess I'm a liitle in favor of a nice, moderately priced, good
food, restaurant.
And...there's no way, under anyone's definition, can I be classified as a
"YUPPIE"
Beth A. Showell 



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RE: [UC] Howard Stern suspended

[Knight, Sandra \(US - Philadelphia\)]

O.K. Fern ... next you're going to claim that the Nairobi Trio's hot 
single was "Hotcakes and Sausage."

Damn...you know he was superb.  What's your point?  Did you ever try to
fake being sick so you could stay home from school just to be able to
watch his show?

Sande Knight
tel. 215-246-2424
fax 215-405-3178
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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On 26 Feb, 2004, at 10:10, Knight, Sandra ((US - Philadelphia)) wrote:
> Steve's shtick was like Ernie Kovacs' early morning show then here
> in Philadelphia in the old Walnut Street studios at Channel 3, an
> NBC affiliate.

O.K. Fern ... next you're going to claim that the Nairobi Trio's hot 
single
was "Hotcakes and Sausage."

[For those of you who have no idea what I'm talking about, just delete 
this thread.]

T.T.F.N.
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RE: [UC] A get togather?? Perhaps??

[Knight, Sandra \(US - Philadelphia\)]

Title: Message




I would like to see the faces with the email...??
 
Be 
careful for what you wish...actually I would to.  It sounds 
fun.
 

Sande Knight tel. 215-246-2424 
fax 
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Say how about a list get togather sometime.
I would like to see the faces with the email...??
When..well early everning or on a lazy Sunday??
 
Thanks
Mark-Original Message- From: "Tancredi, Sue M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Feb 26, 2004 5:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [UC] Abbraccio Restaurant 
agreed.

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 4:58 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [UC] Abbraccio RestaurantYou must not know the same ABBRACCIO I know!!!But then, I guess I'm a liitle in favor of a nice, moderately priced, good food, restaurant.And...there's no way, under anyone's definition, can I be classified as a "YUPPIE"Beth A. Showell 



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Re: [UC] Historical Districts, Student Districts, etc etc

[Brian Siano]

John Ellingsworth wrote:

Residents angry over historical proposal
City Council trying to wrest power from Historical Commission
By Elizabeth Rossi
February 27, 2004
A bill proposed in the City Council by West Philadelphia Councilwoman
Jannie Blackwell has put residents and realtors on opposing sides of
debate over the preservation of historical districts and buildings.
The measure would shift the power to determine the historical value of the
city's districts and buildings from the Philadelphia Historical Commission
to the City Council and would remove many parts of West Philadelphia from
eligibility in the program.
Read more:
http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/vnews/display.v?TARGET=printable&article_id=403f00a8a685a
 

I really wish that, when people wrote articles about this debate, they'd 
try to talk to critics other than Al Krigman. In this particular 
article, the reporter quotes at least three local HD advocates, and the 
opposition is represented by, well, Al.

Most of the better critical material about the HD proposal has been 
written by Sharrieff Ali and myself. And we do _not_ argue from the 
standpoint of landlords with multiple properties. We argue from the 
standpoint of homeowners, who would be effectively _penalized_ by HD 
restrictions. We also address the problems of the designation process 
(the lack of democratic review is a BIG issue), and we have developed a 
set of suggestions to rectify these problems as well.






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[UC] Historical Districts, Student Districts, etc etc

[John Ellingsworth]

Residents angry over historical proposal
City Council trying to wrest power from Historical Commission

By Elizabeth Rossi
February 27, 2004

A bill proposed in the City Council by West Philadelphia Councilwoman
Jannie Blackwell has put residents and realtors on opposing sides of
debate over the preservation of historical districts and buildings.

The measure would shift the power to determine the historical value of the
city's districts and buildings from the Philadelphia Historical Commission
to the City Council and would remove many parts of West Philadelphia from
eligibility in the program.

Read more:
http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/vnews/display.v?TARGET=printable&article_id=403f00a8a685a

Council bill to restrict Temple off-campus life

By Ted Ross
February 27, 2004

City Council legislation that forces landlords to closely regulate
students living in off-campus housing around Saint Joseph's University was
recently expanded to include areas around Temple University.

The bill, passed on Feb. 5, revises the city's housing code to form areas
known as "educational housing districts," in which students living off
campus are more closely regulated and supervised by their landlords.

Councilwoman Jannie Blackwell -- who represents the district that includes
Penn -- seemed skeptical about the idea of a similar bill being instituted
for the University. Representatives from her office said that the school's
relationship with the community and the work of the police force would
likely prevent such a measure from passing.

Read more:
http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/vnews/display.v?TARGET=printable&article_id=403f01367d078

 Thanks,

John Ellingsworth
http://ellingsworth.org/john/
AIM: jellings28


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RE: [UC] Re: A get together? Why not this sunday?

[Kyle Cassidy]

that sounds good to me. christy and i have no plans on sunday apart from
brunch with you fine folks at abbraccio. we shall return with an unbiased
report of the dining experience. the sunday buffet begins at 11:00. how does
11:00 sound for everyone? i notice though the vegetarian options on the
buffet are practically nonexistant. (i'm not sure i feel like paying $10 for
a big plate of pasta salad or granola). does anybody know if you can order
off of the regular menu during the buffet?

Kyle


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From: Richard Hotchkiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 9:48 PM
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UC] Re: A get together? Why not?


That would be a nice idea.  How about Sunday brunch at Abbraccios? 
I think many people on this list are already brunching there, from the
snippets of conversation I've heard there.  I too don't know most people's
faces.  
Besides, yuppie or not, Abbraccio's has kick-ass praline syrup for the
waffles and french toast.
Okay, now I've done it, I'll never get a job at Clear Channel now.

Holly
Got Music?  http://www.hotstrings-inc.com




From: Mark Krull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mark Krull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 20:00:23 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
To: "Tancredi,Sue M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UC] A get togather?? Perhaps??




Say how about a list get togather sometime.
I would like to see the faces with the email...??
When..well early everning or on a lazy Sunday??

Thanks
Mark


-Original Message- 
From: "Tancredi, Sue M." 
Sent: Feb 26, 2004 5:16 PM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: [UC] Abbraccio Restaurant 

agreed.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 4:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UC] Abbraccio Restaurant

You must not know the same ABBRACCIO I know!!!
But then, I guess I'm a liitle in favor of a nice, moderately priced, good
food, restaurant.
And...there's no way, under anyone's definition, can I be classified as a
"YUPPIE"
Beth A. Showell 



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Re: [UC] Abbraccio Restaurant

[Samuel Nicolary]

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> This thread is disheartening, even to me who isn't shy about being critical 
> (or is it cynical?) ... although I do try to stick to "political" issues.
> 
> Maybe you like Abbraccio. Maybe you don't. Maybe you're passing judgements 
> just to make a fool of yourself because it's clear you don't know anything about 
> the joint.
> 
> But a couple of local denizens have put their own money on the line (as 
> opposed to signing authorizations to spending other people's dough) and are trying 
> very hard to provide what they think is missing in the neighborhood. If what 
> they're providing isn't what you personally would like, or what you think would 
> benefit the area, why badmouth them rather than offer your suggestions in a 
> positive way?
> 
> It's obvious they're trying very hard. Coming up with lots of new ideas. Some 
> are bound to fly. Some to crash. Maybe you think your ideas are better. 
> Great. Tell them about it. They'll probably take the paths down which they've 
> started -- evolving those that seem to be successful and eventually figuring out 
> that others may have seemed good on paper but just aren't working. As this 
> process proceeds, suggestions by actual and potential patrons will undoubtedly 
> influence their thinking.
> 
> But, of course, you all know this.
> 
> You want to help shape a restaurant close by that meets your needs and wants? 
> Roger Harmon's email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, if you are referring at all to my post I don't consider relaying my
poor experiences badmouthing.  I gave the place a shot 6 or so times (much
more than I would given any other restaurant outside of our neighborhood)
and I was disappointed each time by both the food and service - two
critical areas a restaurant should pay particular attention to.

Our last experience there was with our two nieces and we were the last
diners in the family area and I guess we were taking too long because the
waiter kept bugging us about the check because he wanted to leave and then
they turned the heat way down on the room and froze us out!  On top of
that my food (seafood) was extremely overcooked or left too long under the
warmer - in fact, almost every time my food has been consistently
overcooked.  Some like it that way - paranoid about germs I guess - but
not me.  I doubt the owners are unaware of these fundamental problems with
their wait and kitchen staff.  If they need my constructive criticisms in
this area then they have much larger problems.

If the prices were 20% less I probably wouldn't have as much a problem
with it but the place isn't cheap and I normally don't consider going out
to dinner a charity event.  My belief is that they should be judged the
same as any other restaurant.

-- 
Sam Nicolary


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