[UC] Labels, Fences, Children and Dogs : 2 more cents

[Elizabeth F. Campion]

YUPPIES  = Young Urban Professionals
Usually thought of as single, but
they can be married and even with children
DINKS = Double Income, No Kids
Often thought of as young and gay, but
they can be straight, and even empty nesters.

FENCES
**
A fenced bowl is a horrible image.
Where would the gates be?
Endless possibilities of meeting would be reduced to sad worn trails,
surrounded by rusting metal.  The perimeter would collect litter and be
home to hard to manage weed grasses.
Fences are rarely beautiful.
Stone fences in the right field settings might add to their landscapes, 
but these fences are more about creating arable land (by moving the
stones which would impede plows) than for keeping people or animals out
of or off of the land.
Short hairpin fences can be an attractive decoration in a Victorian
garden, and they send a gentle reminder about boundaries, but do not keep
out squirrels, birds or determined dogs (or people).
Any fence capable of restraining a Doberman would be tall, strong and
ugly.
Can  you imagine the length, let alone the expense of a fence for such a
huge perimeter?
We have an oasis.  It does not need penitentiary panache.

CHILDREN
*
Responsible parents provide the best possible child care.
Whether it is at home or at PIC (or any quality day care) it is expensive
and labor intensive.
Those of us who make time to take our toddlers (I am reaching into memory
here) to the park find it almost laughable that people who profess to
"Love" their dogs, can't spend $25.00 / year to join the dog park or walk
to the 4700 block of Chester or drive to any other appropriate place with
their dogs.  For the average toddler, parents spend $200 / week (just for
the day care).  
The average dog should be on a leash and able to walk several blocks and
can poop anywhere that a plastic bag is at hand.  The average Toddler is
hard to dress (and keep dressed);  can run circles around an extended
family but can't walk three linear blocks; is a future adult who needs
guidance not a leash; and is generally enduring a type of potty training
that requires more than a plastic bag.
The average dog can be picked up from the pound with shots and neutering
completed for <$100.00.
The average baby requires gestation or adoption at considerably greater
expense and commitment.
Dogs are nice companions.
Babies are our future.
It is a no brainer... babies, toddlers, pregnant woman, joggers, bikers,
mailmen and seniors should be safe from dogs.  Until someone comes up
with something better than a leash, than our current law makes sense and
should be reasonably enforced.  If the community wants to permit specific
times that balance the needs of dogs against the needs of children for
"off-leash" play... than I would sign on to a pact gave the bowl to the
dogs between 6 AM and 9 AM.  I'm prepared to assume few kids need the
park at those hours and most dogs need to void before their owners leave
for work.  I would make my endorsement contingent upon clear signage of
times and strict enforcement of leash laws at other times. 

DOGS
***
The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of
his tongue.
-Anonymous
> > 
>Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are 
wonderful.
-Ann Landers
> > 
The average dog is a nicer person than the average person. 
-Andy Rooney
> > 
We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare.

And in return, dogs give us their all. 
It's the best deal man has ever made.
-M. Acklam
> > 
Dogs love their friends and bite their enemies, quite unlike people, who
are incapable of pure love and always have to mix love and hate.
-Sigmund Freud
> >
I wonder if other dogs think poodles are members of a weird religious
cult.
-Rita Rudner
> >
If your dog is fat, you aren't getting enough exercise. 
-Unknown
> >
Ever consider what our dogs must think of us? I mean, here we come back
from a grocery store with the most amazing haul -- chicken, pork, half a
cow. They must think we're the greatest hunters on earth!
-Anne Tyler
> > 
Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and
get used to the idea. 
-Robert A. Heinlein
> > 
If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite
you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man. 
-Mark Twain
> > 
You can say any foolish thing to a dog, and the dog will give you a look
that says, 'Wow, you're right! I never would've thought of that!'
- Dave Barry
> > 
Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole. 
-Roger Caras
> > 
My goal in life is to be as good of a person my dog already thinks I am. 
-Unknown



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Re: [UC] univcity: deep thoughts

[BGAndersen]

Information about the Chester Avenue Dog Club (48th & Chester) can be found at:

http://www.geocities.com/uc_dog

In a message dated 2/28/04 5:32:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


There is a dog run on Chester ave around 49th(?), it costs something,
but if you have a dog that needs to run it might be worth it.

Re: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl

[BGAndersen]

Tear down the wall!

-Pink Floyd


In a message dated 2/28/04 2:51:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


"Good fences make good neighbors."


-  Robert Frost

Re: [UC] Re: Upholstery

[MLamond]

Sadly, Loyal Upholstery is not there any more.  The shopkeeper sold the 
building last year and retired.

Melani Lamond

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RE: [UC] univcity: deep thoughts

[S. Sharrieff Ali]

Richard..your point is well taken. From what 
I can understand, the current dog owners 
are a bit upset about leaving the bowl. It 
makes more sense to me to have a legitimate 
free dog run that is part of the park. 

However it is not a compromise, it will require 
a new plan and take a longer time to establish.

So..in the in-between time, what do we do?

S.

-Original Message-
From: Richard Hotchkiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 3:54 PM
To: S. Sharrieff Ali
Cc: 'Daniel Widyono'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UC] univcity: deep thoughts

A fence will collect trash. Let's just get back to the idea of putting 
a legitimate dog run in the section of the park between Chester and 
Baltimore. They'll still be a fence, but not as big.

Richard Hotchkiss
http://www.hotstrings-inc.com
215 382 8706




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[UC] Re:

[FRByers]

Hi,
 I had chimney work done years ago by F. Lotierzo and Sons, 712 N. American St., 215-922-5717.  I would recommend them.
    Fran
 
Hello:I am planning on having our chimney relined this spring. Does anyone have any recommendations for a chimney contractor  to do this job?Thank youJohn Valentino 

[UC] Re: Upholstery

[FRByers]

Hi,
 I recommend that you check with Loyal Upholstery Shop at 1116 S. 47th St. 215-729-6611.  It is a long-time local family business that does fine work.
  Fran
 
 
We are looking to have custom cushions made for a built-in couch/window seat.  Does anyone have a recommendation for a place or individual who can help us with getting the correct measurements and materials and do the actual sewing?

Re: [UC] univcity: deep thoughts

[William H. Magill]

On 28 Feb, 2004, at 14:56, Daniel Widyono wrote:
Yuppies:
Is being a yuppie a fad, does it only pertain to 80's/90's Y.U.P's?
Yuppies frequently become Dinks who often then become parents.

... kind of like the seal that becomes a human.

(Or in the more Disneyfied version - mermaid that becomes a human.)

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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Re: [UC] univcity: deep thoughts

[William H. Magill]

On 28 Feb, 2004, at 14:56, Daniel Widyono wrote:
Abbraccio brunch:
Everyone should bring a computer and chat with each other online.
(We've eaten there once, great antipasto)
Do they have WiFi? (aka 802.11) connectivity?

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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Re: [UC] univcity: deep thoughts

[Richard Hotchkiss]

There is a dog run on Chester ave around 49th(?), it costs something, 
but if you have a dog that needs to run it might be worth it.

Richard Hotchkiss
http://www.hotstrings-inc.com
215 382 8706
On Feb 28, 2004, at 4:34 PM, S. Sharrieff Ali wrote:
Richard..your point is well taken. From what
I can understand, the current dog owners
are a bit upset about leaving the bowl. It
makes more sense to me to have a legitimate
free dog run that is part of the park.
However it is not a compromise, it will require
a new plan and take a longer time to establish.
So..in the in-between time, what do we do?

S.

-Original Message-
From: Richard Hotchkiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 3:54 PM
To: S. Sharrieff Ali
Cc: 'Daniel Widyono'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UC] univcity: deep thoughts
A fence will collect trash. Let's just get back to the idea of putting
a legitimate dog run in the section of the park between Chester and
Baltimore. They'll still be a fence, but not as big.
Richard Hotchkiss
http://www.hotstrings-inc.com
215 382 8706




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Re: [UC] get-together

[Mark Krull]

Do they sell them at WAWA.??


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Subject: [UC] get-together

For the listserv get-together tomorrow at 11:00 at Abbraccio, I think we need 
nametags. Anyone have any stickers?
Jo Ann

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Re: [UC] univcity: deep thoughts

[Richard Hotchkiss]

Can I bring my dog?

Richard Hotchkiss
http://www.hotstrings-inc.com
215 382 8706

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Re: [UC] univcity: deep thoughts

[Richard Hotchkiss]

A fence will collect trash. Let's just get back to the idea of putting 
a legitimate dog run in the section of the park between Chester and 
Baltimore. They'll still be a fence, but not as big.

Richard Hotchkiss
http://www.hotstrings-inc.com
215 382 8706

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RE: [UC] univcity: deep thoughts

[Mark Krull]

Say
We can talk dog at the brunch tomorrow:)

-Original Message-
From: "S. Sharrieff Ali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 28, 2004 3:17 PM
To: 'Daniel Widyono' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [UC] univcity: deep thoughts

"Put a fence around the playgrounds"

The problem is that dogs shouldn't be off leash
anywhere by law besides your own yard and our 
children should not and don't need to be in cages.

S.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Widyono
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 2:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UC] univcity: deep thoughts

Abbraccio brunch:
Everyone should bring a computer and chat with each other
online.
(We've eaten there once, great antipasto)

Dog fence:
Put a fence around the playgrounds.
(I live with a dog who remains on leash, and a 3-year old who
 loves playing at the playground)

Yuppies:
Is being a yuppie a fad, does it only pertain to 80's/90's
Y.U.P's?

Regards,
Dan W.

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Re: [UC] get-together

[Mark Krull]

Title: Re: [UC] get-together


Kool!!-Original Message- From: Naomi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Feb 28, 2004 2:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] get-together I have some that I'll bring. See you tomorrow.NaomiWhite Dog Cafe   3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 http://www.whitedog.com  (215) 386-9224 x105    The Black Cat Gift Shop3426 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104http://www.blackcatshop.com
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RE: [UC] univcity: deep thoughts

[S. Sharrieff Ali]

"Put a fence around the playgrounds"

The problem is that dogs shouldn't be off leash
anywhere by law besides your own yard and our 
children should not and don't need to be in cages.

S.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Widyono
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 2:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UC] univcity: deep thoughts

Abbraccio brunch:
Everyone should bring a computer and chat with each other
online.
(We've eaten there once, great antipasto)

Dog fence:
Put a fence around the playgrounds.
(I live with a dog who remains on leash, and a 3-year old who
 loves playing at the playground)

Yuppies:
Is being a yuppie a fad, does it only pertain to 80's/90's
Y.U.P's?

Regards,
Dan W.

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[UC] univcity: deep thoughts

[Daniel Widyono]

Abbraccio brunch:
Everyone should bring a computer and chat with each other online.
(We've eaten there once, great antipasto)

Dog fence:
Put a fence around the playgrounds.
(I live with a dog who remains on leash, and a 3-year old who
 loves playing at the playground)

Yuppies:
Is being a yuppie a fad, does it only pertain to 80's/90's Y.U.P's?

Regards,
Dan W.

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Re: [UC] get-together

[Naomi]

Title: Re: [UC] get-together



I have some that I'll bring. See you tomorrow.

Naomi


White Dog Cafe   
3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 
http://www.whitedog.com  
(215) 386-9224 x105    

The Black Cat Gift Shop
3426 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104
http://www.blackcatshop.com

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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 13:55:32 EST
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Subject: [UC] get-together


For the listserv get-together tomorrow at 11:00 at Abbraccio, I think we need 
nametags. Anyone have any stickers?
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RE: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl

[Mario Giorno]

"Good fences make good neighbors."


-  Robert Frost

-Original Message-
From: S. Sharrieff Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 1:55 PM
To: 'Alex de Soto'; 'Mario Giorno'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl



Hey Alex:

I don't agree. It would not create any problem with
sliding down the bowl, the fence will be on the 
perimeter. It doesn't need to be ugly either, as long
as it is not a  tall silver cyclone fence (they look much 
better in black anyway). In concept, it is a compromise 
because it answers the needs of both sides.

The bowl could still be used for everything it is already 
used for. Resurfacing the bowl will cost a ton of money.

It seems to me to be the least expensive way, would call 
for less change in everyone's lifestyle, and would not require 
numerous meetings to make changes in the master plan or
to establish another dog park.

S.

-Original Message-
From: Alex de Soto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 12:30 PM
To: 'S. Sharrieff Ali'; 'Mario Giorno'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl

Sharrieff, Mario, and all,

I find this to be an awful comprise. Not only does it have the potential of
looking extremely ugly, but it would also make it difficult for kids (and
adults) to slide down the sides of the bowl when covered with snow. 

The bowl could be resurfaced with something more lasting than grass (gravel,
a la French parks) perhaps augmented by a water feature.

A "dog park" should be funded by dog-owners somewhere else. The master plan
should flex to accommodate them.

Alex de Soto

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of S. Sharrieff Ali
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 10:14 AM
To: 'Mario Giorno'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl

Hey...that's my idea!

Mario:
I also suggested that the bowl be fenced in.
I see this as a compromise for all. It would provide
a barrier for the children and an "enter at your own
risk" area while allowing the dog owners to still have
some since of community and freedom. It would be a
"more" legal setting then what we have now.

The fence idea should have been explored in the master
plan for the park. I think that the dog owners that are interested in
preserving the freedom for dogs in the bowl should get a committee together
to fund raise, leverage government dollars and make it happen.

The dogs' off-leash remains an issue of liability for the city and dog
owners, assessment of risk, safety and security, law 
enforcement and responsible behavior. 

None of these factors will change no matter what we end up with.

S.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Mario Giorno
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:42 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl

Dave,

Don't turn this into an emotional fight. We need to have a logical
debate about this. Would you bring your children to Clark Park, if you knew
that large dogs, some potentially harmful to children, were running around
unleashed? You must admit that it's a legal problem. And as for the childish
claim of "Who was here first?", I'd suggest you concentrate on the reality
of who actually lives here now. There is a moral priority here. Children's
safety is more important the the rights of animals to have a natural
landscape in which to run and play. Perhaps it's the dog owners who should
hightail it to the burbs if they want their dogs to have a place to run. The
animals would be happier and healthier out there rather than in a metro area
that is rather animal-unfriendly.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl


The dogs and their owners have been in the Clark Park bowl forever.  
Certainly long before the arrival of the yuppies to our fair shores.  
At first, some hailed the yuppies' arrival as some great thing.  After all, 
they do bring a lot of disposable trinkets.  But now the 
yuppies are breeding and they aren't happy with just all of PENN.  They want

Clark Park too.  I say screw them.  This is the city, they already have 
their suburbs.  

David




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RE: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl

[S. Sharrieff Ali]

Hey Alex:

I don't agree. It would not create any problem with
sliding down the bowl, the fence will be on the 
perimeter. It doesn't need to be ugly either, as long
as it is not a  tall silver cyclone fence (they look much 
better in black anyway). In concept, it is a compromise 
because it answers the needs of both sides.

The bowl could still be used for everything it is already 
used for. Resurfacing the bowl will cost a ton of money.

It seems to me to be the least expensive way, would call 
for less change in everyone's lifestyle, and would not require 
numerous meetings to make changes in the master plan or
to establish another dog park.

S.

-Original Message-
From: Alex de Soto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 12:30 PM
To: 'S. Sharrieff Ali'; 'Mario Giorno'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl

Sharrieff, Mario, and all,

I find this to be an awful comprise. Not only does it have the potential
of
looking extremely ugly, but it would also make it difficult for kids
(and
adults) to slide down the sides of the bowl when covered with snow. 

The bowl could be resurfaced with something more lasting than grass
(gravel,
a la French parks) perhaps augmented by a water feature.

A "dog park" should be funded by dog-owners somewhere else. The master
plan
should flex to accommodate them.

Alex de Soto

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of S. Sharrieff Ali
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 10:14 AM
To: 'Mario Giorno'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl

Hey...that's my idea!

Mario:
I also suggested that the bowl be fenced in.
I see this as a compromise for all. It would provide
a barrier for the children and an "enter at your own
risk" area while allowing the dog owners to still have
some since of community and freedom. It would be a
"more" legal setting then what we have now.

The fence idea should have been explored in the master
plan for the park. I think that the dog owners that are
interested in preserving the freedom for dogs in the bowl
should get a committee together to fund raise, leverage
government dollars and make it happen.

The dogs' off-leash remains an issue of liability for the city
and dog owners, assessment of risk, safety and security, law 
enforcement and responsible behavior. 

None of these factors will change no matter what we end up with.

S.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Giorno
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:42 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl

Dave,

Don't turn this into an emotional fight. We need to have a
logical
debate about this. Would you bring your children to Clark Park, if you
knew
that large dogs, some potentially harmful to children, were running
around
unleashed? You must admit that it's a legal problem. And as for the
childish
claim of "Who was here first?", I'd suggest you concentrate on the
reality
of who actually lives here now. There is a moral priority here.
Children's
safety is more important the the rights of animals to have a natural
landscape in which to run and play. Perhaps it's the dog owners who
should
hightail it to the burbs if they want their dogs to have a place to run.
The
animals would be happier and healthier out there rather than in a metro
area
that is rather animal-unfriendly.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl


The dogs and their owners have been in the Clark Park bowl forever.  
Certainly long before the arrival of the yuppies to our fair shores.  
At first, some hailed the yuppies' arrival as some great thing.  After
all, 
they do bring a lot of disposable trinkets.  But now the 
yuppies are breeding and they aren't happy with just all of PENN.  They
want

Clark Park too.  I say screw them.  This is the city, they already have 
their suburbs.  

David




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RE: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl

[Alex de Soto]

Shariff, Mario, and all,

I find this to be an awful comprise. Not only does it have the potential of
looking extremely ugly, but it would also make it difficult for kids (and
adults) to slide down the sides of the bowl when covered with snow. 

The bowl could be resurfaced with something more lasting than grass (gravel,
a la French parks) perhaps augmented by a water feature.

A "dog park" should be funded by dog-owners somewhere else. The master plan
should flex to accommodate them.

Alex de Soto

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of S. Sharrieff Ali
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 10:14 AM
To: 'Mario Giorno'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl

Hey...that's my idea!

Mario:
I also suggested that the bowl be fenced in.
I see this as a compromise for all. It would provide
a barrier for the children and an "enter at your own
risk" area while allowing the dog owners to still have
some since of community and freedom. It would be a
"more" legal setting then what we have now.

The fence idea should have been explored in the master
plan for the park. I think that the dog owners that are
interested in preserving the freedom for dogs in the bowl
should get a committee together to fund raise, leverage
government dollars and make it happen.

The dogs' off-leash remains an issue of liability for the city
and dog owners, assessment of risk, safety and security, law 
enforcement and responsible behavior. 

None of these factors will change no matter what we end up with.

S.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Giorno
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:42 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl

Dave,

Don't turn this into an emotional fight. We need to have a
logical
debate about this. Would you bring your children to Clark Park, if you
knew
that large dogs, some potentially harmful to children, were running
around
unleashed? You must admit that it's a legal problem. And as for the
childish
claim of "Who was here first?", I'd suggest you concentrate on the
reality
of who actually lives here now. There is a moral priority here.
Children's
safety is more important the the rights of animals to have a natural
landscape in which to run and play. Perhaps it's the dog owners who
should
hightail it to the burbs if they want their dogs to have a place to run.
The
animals would be happier and healthier out there rather than in a metro
area
that is rather animal-unfriendly.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UC] Dogs in the Bowl


The dogs and their owners have been in the Clark Park bowl forever.  
Certainly long before the arrival of the yuppies to our fair shores.  
At first, some hailed the yuppies' arrival as some great thing.  After
all, 
they do bring a lot of disposable trinkets.  But now the 
yuppies are breeding and they aren't happy with just all of PENN.  They
want

Clark Park too.  I say screw them.  This is the city, they already have 
their suburbs.  

David




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