[UC] Recycling at Firehouse Farmers Market

[Herons]

The next scheduled recycling days are:


June 5
June 19



There will be NO recycling this Saturday (May 22) or next (May 29).


The Fourth of July is a Sunday this year. As far as I know, there WILL be
recycling on July 3rd. I DON'T expect that to change, and I'll try to let
everyone know if I hear differently.



Al Airone

215-729-5170


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[UC] Re: that tremendous loss of life in the Civil War was entirely Lincoln's fault

[KAREN ALLEN]

"William H. Magill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
RE:  And don't forget -- that tremendous loss of life in the Civil War 
was entirely Lincoln's fault. With no provocation, he declared war 
on The South and INVADED them! -- All the Southerners wanted to do 
was secede so that they could maintain their way of life. They had 
no desire to impose their way of life on the North. They simply wanted 
to be independent of the Laws being imposed on them by the North, to 
maintain their traditions and culture.
Yowsa, Mista William, you's absolutely right, Boss.  Massa Culpepper and 
Miss Anne jus' wanted to stay here in the South, mindin' they own business, 
keepin' us colored folks waintin'  on 'em hand and foot, tillin' fields, 
makin'  'em a fortune and such.  Massa and Missy was real good to us, givin' 
us the leftovers to eat, and if we was lucky,  we might not even git beat.  
They's a lot of Southern traditions and culture them Yankees just dont know, 
like whippin, lynchin', burnin',  and believe it or not, the 3 minute mile. 
That was invented by a colored man trying to outrun Massa's hound dogs.

So don't beleive them troublemakin' carpetbaggers that's been spreading all 
them lies that the Southern way of life was an evil, brutal, exploitation of 
humanity.  And don't believe all them colored folks who ran off to Canada 
supposedly to get away from Massa-- they just wanted to see Niagra Falls!
Karen Allen

From: "William H. Magill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "William H. Magill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Daniel Aharon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: University City List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [UC] Political Commentary: W Saying Sorry
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:21:30 -0400
On 19 May, 2004, at 10:24, Daniel Aharon wrote:
But not all atrocities are created equal. It is not impossible that our 
own government was actually complicit in the events of 9/11. There's an 
alternative history floating around somewhere in which the US is not 
currently polarized between Bush and Kerry for the next election, but is 
instead grimly prosecuting Bush, Cheney, the Cabinet and a large cabal of 
military and perhaps media personnel who aided and abetted the largest 
single domestic mass-murder since the Civil War, and then actually used 
all that death and misery for political power.
There's lots of hard questions, and more evidence than most people are 
aware of. The issue becomes, "How much can you stand to believe?"
No. The issue is "What are you WILLING to believe?"
Everyone knows that Roosevelt ignored all warnings that the Japanese were 
planning to attack Perl Harbor simply because he had been completely 
ineffective in convincing Congress to enter the War in Europe simply at the 
request of Churchill. After all, the French were SUPPORTING the Nazis with 
their Vichy Government. (And because he wanted a place to test his new 
bomb.) -- But people want to believe that Roosevelt was a beneficent person 
who only held the Presidency for 12 years because he was committed to 
serving the people.

And don't forget -- that tremendous loss of life in the Civil War was 
entirely Lincoln's fault. With no provocation, he declared war on The South 
and INVADED them! -- All the Southerners wanted to do was secede so that 
they could maintain their way of life. They had no desire to impose their 
way of life on the North. They simply wanted to be independent of the Laws 
being imposed on them by the North, to maintain their traditions and 
culture.

Then there was: "Remember the Maine!" (Spanish American War).
That sinking was Hurst's solution to sagging newspaper sales, even though 
the cause of the explosion was never determined and the Spanish were 
instrumental in rescuing the surviving crew. "Please remain. You furnish 
the pictures, I'll furnish the war." is the text of the Cable sent by 
Hurst.

And if you come from another part of the world... Remember how the 
magnificence of the Ottoman Empire came to visit Mozart in Vienna in the 
1700s? The Europeans were so upset they took to slaughtering Moslems over 
the next 100+ years, starting with the Crimean War (led by Russia in 1854) 
and culminating in the end of the Ottoman Empire with WWI. Which lead, 
amongst other things, to the loss of all Ottoman territory in Syria, 
Palestine, Arabia, and Mesopotamia, and the creation of what is now Turkey, 
Syria, Iraq and Iran as part of the Treaty of Versailles in 1919.

What are YOU willing to believe?
I am constantly amazed at the power of the Illuminati to cloud the minds of 
mankind.

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [UC] Political Commentary: W Saying Sorry

[KAREN ALLEN]

Thanks, Dan for saying what I was thinking.  I didn't open up that link, 
because I knew once I saw it, I'd never get it of of my mind.  What I can't 
understand is how the others who watched it found the only profound aspects 
of the tape to be the lighting, editing, and  time stamps.
Karen Allen

From: "Dan Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Dan Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [UC] Political Commentary: W Saying Sorry
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 23:21:06 -0400
I don't know how any of you could watch such a clip. I have been trying to
avoid this awful ugly topic in the news since it began. And now someone 
sent
the link (for easy access- how nice), in which my curiosity took the better
of me. I wish I didn't look at it. I almost puked on my computer. Also, I
still feel nauseous with just thinking about it. Can we please change the
subject? My finger is tired of hitting the delete key.

Dan Myers
- Original Message -
From: "Andrew Diller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "John Ellingsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Brian Siano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "UC"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> On May 19, 2004, at 4:22 PM, John Ellingsworth wrote:
> >
> > Doesn't look edited to me.
>
> So the missing 11 hours? The tape jumps from 2:40 to 13:45?
>
> -andy diller
>
>
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Re: [UC] Political Commentary: W Saying Sorry

[Brian Siano]

William H. Magill wrote:
And don't forget -- that tremendous loss of life in the Civil War was 
entirely Lincoln's fault. With no provocation, he declared war on The 
South and INVADED them! -- All the Southerners wanted to do was secede 
so that they could maintain their way of life. They had no desire to 
impose their way of life on the North. They simply wanted to be 
independent of the Laws being imposed on them by the North, to 
maintain their traditions and culture. 
I'm going to assume that Bill's being sarcastic here, because he 
couldn't be offering the farrago of nonsense above as an actual 
argument. So I'm assuming that this is sarcasm whose target is, I'd 
guess, crackpot beliefs in historical myths.

But here's the facts, so we're all on the same page. South Carolina 
voted to secede from the union in January of 1861. Lincoln hadn't done 
anything besides get elected at that point, but several Southern states 
took this as provocation enough to secede. (Lincoln wasn't inaugurated 
until March of that year.)

The first military clash of the Civil War was, as everyone knows, 
committed by the South. President Buchanan wouldn't give them Fort 
Sumter, so the Confederacy established a blockade that cut the place off 
from supply lines. When Lincoln attempted to send supplies there, the 
Confederacy demanded the surrender of the fort. Even though the 
commander pledged to surrender only after his supplies ran out, the 
South attacked the fort on April 12, 1861. In short, the first shots of 
the war were fired by the Confederacy. (Which gives you an idea of how 
crazy the phrase "War of Northern Aggression" is.)

As for the "traditions and culture" of the South, that's fine--- as long 
as we recall that the _major_ tradition was the most revolting and evil 
of human institutions, the cause of tremendous suffering and cruelty, 
and one that has been rejected by most of the civilized world.

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[UC] another pirate radio station lost to the FCC

[Matthew Snyder]

Every time I hear about an unlicensed station getting shut down, it
makes me miss the wonderful WPPR (West Philadelphia Pirate Radio). 
This FCC raid story has to be one of the weirder ones I've heard,
though:

http://radioandrecords.com/Subscribers/TodaysNews/homepage.htm

  Philly-Area Spanish-Language Pirate Shut Down

  The FCC yesterday shut down Pennsauken, NJ-based "El Sol 95.3," which 
  began broadcasting 24/7 in January and could be heard throughout the 
  Philadelphia area. According to AP, federal authorities seized 
  equipment from the station, which had been the subject of repeated 
  complaints from stations with similar frequencies located throughout 
  the region. A group called The Moors operated El Sol, and the group 
  claimed that U.S. laws do not apply to the group's members because 
  they are indigenous Americans who, they claim, have lived on the 
  continent since the beginning of time. A man representing the station 
  told a visiting FCC field agent in January that El Sol was authorized 
  under the "Great Seal" and offered a homemade document signed by 
  "Queen Ali," according to a federal civil complaint filed May 17 in a 
  Newark, NJ U.S. District Court. Members of the Moors, also known as 
  the Al Moroccan Empire, were in summer 2003 accused of operating a 
  money fraud ring.

--
Matthew Snyder
Philadelphia, PA

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Re: [UC] another pirate radio station lost to the FCC

[BGAndersen]

If you like pirate radio, check out:

http://www.prometheusradio.org/

In a message dated 5/20/2004 11:29:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
 
> Every time I hear about an unlicensed station getting shut down, it
> makes me miss the wonderful WPPR (West Philadelphia Pirate Radio). 
> This FCC raid story has to be one of the weirder ones I've heard,
> though:
> 
> http://radioandrecords.com/Subscribers/TodaysNews/homepage.htm
> 
>  Philly-Area Spanish-Language Pirate Shut Down
> 
>  The FCC yesterday shut down Pennsauken, NJ-based "El Sol 95.3," which 
>  began broadcasting 24/7 in January and could be heard throughout the 
>  Philadelphia area. According to AP, federal authorities seized 
>  equipment from the station, which had been the subject of repeated 
>  complaints from stations with similar frequencies located throughout 
>  the region. A group called The Moors operated El Sol, and the group 
>  claimed that U.S. laws do not apply to the group's members because 
>  they are indigenous Americans who, they claim, have lived on the 
>  continent since the beginning of time. A man representing the station 
>  told a visiting FCC field agent in January that El Sol was authorized 
>  under the "Great Seal" and offered a homemade document signed by 
>  "Queen Ali," according to a federal civil complaint filed May 17 in a 
>  Newark, NJ U.S. District Court. Members of the Moors, also known as 
>  the Al Moroccan Empire, were in summer 2003 accused of operating a 
>  money fraud ring.
> 
> --
> Matthew Snyder
> Philadelphia, PA


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Re: [UC] another pirate radio station lost to the FCC

[Wilma de Soto]

Well, I don't know about the Morrocan money ring, but El Sol was a great
station and played great salsa and soul.  A welcome respite from the
"Wal-Mart-style" corporate radio found in major cities today.

Philadelphia was the home of personality radio and it saddens me that
everything is almost generic nowadays.

Wilma


On 5/20/04 11:29 AM, "Matthew Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Every time I hear about an unlicensed station getting shut down, it
> makes me miss the wonderful WPPR (West Philadelphia Pirate Radio).
> This FCC raid story has to be one of the weirder ones I've heard,
> though:
> 
> http://radioandrecords.com/Subscribers/TodaysNews/homepage.htm
> 
>   Philly-Area Spanish-Language Pirate Shut Down
> 
>   The FCC yesterday shut down Pennsauken, NJ-based "El Sol 95.3," which
>   began broadcasting 24/7 in January and could be heard throughout the
>   Philadelphia area. According to AP, federal authorities seized
>   equipment from the station, which had been the subject of repeated
>   complaints from stations with similar frequencies located throughout
>   the region. A group called The Moors operated El Sol, and the group
>   claimed that U.S. laws do not apply to the group's members because
>   they are indigenous Americans who, they claim, have lived on the
>   continent since the beginning of time. A man representing the station
>   told a visiting FCC field agent in January that El Sol was authorized
>   under the "Great Seal" and offered a homemade document signed by
>   "Queen Ali," according to a federal civil complaint filed May 17 in a
>   Newark, NJ U.S. District Court. Members of the Moors, also known as
>   the Al Moroccan Empire, were in summer 2003 accused of operating a
>   money fraud ring.
> 
> --
> Matthew Snyder
> Philadelphia, PA
> 
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RE: [UC] Philadelphia Tax Reform Faces Major Trial -- Your Help Could Be The ...

[S. Sharrieff Ali]

Yes...I agree, (I think with Bill and others?) the land tax is a 
thought in the right direction, but leaves much to be desired. 
It is not responsible to penalize owners for having green space,
particularly when we are trying to encourage families to
make their homes in the city. The culprits of community
deterioration are the dilapidated buildings of absentee owners.
I don't believe that a higher tax burden will change the condition.

The owners should be fined, given notice to repair, and if there
is no action, for the purposes of public safety, they should lose
their building to the city. It is almost impossible to collect taxes
from owners who do not take care of their buildings.

Tougher zoning enforcement and laws that protect facades from 
deterioration would be a more responsible change.

My 2 cents.

S.
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Subject: Re: [UC] Philadelphia Tax Reform Faces Major Trial -- Your Help
Could Be The ... 

On 19 May, 2004, at 17:36, Charles H. Buchholtz wrote:
>From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date:  Wed, 19 May 2004 16:01:49 EDT
>
> These are interesting points - thank you for raising them.
>
>A greater tax burden on land discourages amenities such as open
>space and yards. Government has urged developers in Philadelphia's
>central business district to leave some portion of their property
>open with setbacks and public space to avoid the canyon effect that
>makes some cities sunless and unattractive.
>
> I guess I had assumed that set-backs, yards, etc, were covered by
> zoning restrictions.

In Philadelphia they are. However, depending upon your political clout 
and money for lawyers, the Zoning Board of Adjustment can be trivially 
swayed to believe that it would be a "hardship" for the developer to 
conform to the Zoning Code. Things like set-backs, coverage 
percentages, and parking provisions are routinely waived -- for people 
with the right clout.

>A land value tax encourages abandonment of vacant property in
>neighborhoods.

I don't know where the writers got this idea from. The exact opposite 
is true. We see it everywhere you look in the City. Properties 
abandoned because the existing tax system encourages the landlords to 
"just walk."

Here on Chestnut and Sansom Streets for example, the 20 or so vacant 
properties formerly (we hope, as I have yet to see any evidence that 
the sale closed) owned by "Starburst Realty" had property tax 
assessments of about $100-200 per property, while the adjacent occupied 
properties had property taxes at $1200-2000 per property. Starburst 
could and did sit on the properties for roughly 4 years and never paid 
a dime in property taxes.  Such "developers" routinely petition the 
Board of Revision of Taxes to have there property taxes lowered because 
the properties are "uninhabitable."
(It's all on the BRT web site so you can look up the property taxes 
assessed for any property in the city.)

Valid appraisals and real taxes, ENFORCED by tax sales would prevent 
people like Sunburst from simply sitting on a property for years and 
having it not cost them a dime. Hell, most of the time, they don't even 
pay their mortgage companies who won't foreclose on them because the 
developer is into them for too much money and threatens to declare 
bankruptcy if they do.

>In other words, under the land value tax Pittsburgh's poor citizens
>subsidized the real estate tax of wealthier citizens.  How could
>this be? Because wealth is reflected in buildings more than in
>land. Yet in Pittsburgh, the things of greatest value - houses -
>were undertaxed, while the thing of similar value - the land - was
>highly taxed.
>
> I don't understand how the value of the land is similar.  It seems to
> me that a lot in the 4500 block of Ludlow is worth a lot less than a
> lot in the 1700 block of Delancey.  But a parking lot next to prime
> downtown real estate will be taxed a lot more than a parking lot in
> the middle of no-where.
>
> It does seem like the land-value tax would accelerate gentrification.
> Wealthy people would be encouraged to renovate or build in
> lower-income neighborhoods, for the tax break.  A shack between two
> McMansions would be taxed as a McMansion, and a McMansion between two
> shacks would be taxed as a shack.  So the wealthy would be encouraged
> to find homes with less wealthy neighbors.

No, that is how it is now with the existing property tax system in 
Philadelphia.
It is against the law for the Tax Appraisers to value individual 
properties that way. They must do an entire "parcel" (nominally a 
census trac

[UC] K and B painters?

[Nicole Mcewan]

Hi all,
Has anyone had experiences good or bad with K and B painters. If so so 
please explain.

From their pitch; they sound great. As far as I can tell they seem highly 
focussed on prep and use only oil paint. That's pretty unusual these days.
Thanks,
Nicole McEwan
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Fwd: [UC] another pirate radio station lost to the FCC

[Craigsolve]

In a message dated 5/20/2004 11:50:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Al Moroccan Empire
A few years ago there were several privately owned vehicles driving around UC/WP with such license plates.
 
Craig
--- Begin Message ---
Every time I hear about an unlicensed station getting shut down, it
makes me miss the wonderful WPPR (West Philadelphia Pirate Radio). 
This FCC raid story has to be one of the weirder ones I've heard,
though:

http://radioandrecords.com/Subscribers/TodaysNews/homepage.htm

  Philly-Area Spanish-Language Pirate Shut Down

  The FCC yesterday shut down Pennsauken, NJ-based "El Sol 95.3," which 
  began broadcasting 24/7 in January and could be heard throughout the 
  Philadelphia area. According to AP, federal authorities seized 
  equipment from the station, which had been the subject of repeated 
  complaints from stations with similar frequencies located throughout 
  the region. A group called The Moors operated El Sol, and the group 
  claimed that U.S. laws do not apply to the group's members because 
  they are indigenous Americans who, they claim, have lived on the 
  continent since the beginning of time. A man representing the station 
  told a visiting FCC field agent in January that El Sol was authorized 
  under the "Great Seal" and offered a homemade document signed by 
  "Queen Ali," according to a federal civil complaint filed May 17 in a 
  Newark, NJ U.S. District Court. Members of the Moors, also known as 
  the Al Moroccan Empire, were in summer 2003 accused of operating a 
  money fraud ring.

--
Matthew Snyder
Philadelphia, PA

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Re: [UC] K and B painters?

[M Sweet]

Karl is the husband of a teacher at The Parent-Infant Center, and we've used
him (both as a volunteer and for pay) to paint nearly the whole place. I
have found him to be very thorough, neat, and fast, all characteristics we
very much
appreciate.

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From: "Nicole Mcewan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:46 PM
Subject: [UC] K and B painters?


> Hi all,
>
> Has anyone had experiences good or bad with K and B painters. If so so
> please explain.
>
> >From their pitch; they sound great. As far as I can tell they seem highly
> focussed on prep and use only oil paint. That's pretty unusual these days.
>
> Thanks,
> Nicole McEwan
>
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[UC] Market Forces in the Torture Industry; or, Is It Argentina Yet?

[Benseraglio2]

from the New York Times, Friday, May 14:
 
"Separate from Thursday's hearing, Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, raised questions about Iraqi prisons in another context, urging Attorney General John Ashcroft to investigate how the Justice Department had selected civilians to oversee the prisons, including an official from Utah who has been linked to accusations of prison abuse in the United States.The official, Lane McCotter, resigned in 1997 under pressure as director of Utah Corrections Department after an inmate died while shackled naked to a restraining chair for 16 hours. He became an executive at the Management and Training Corporation of Centerville, Utah, which ran a private prison in New Mexico that the Justice Department criticized for unsafe conditions and lack of medical care for inmates."
from today's NYT:
 
"The agency's inspector general also is investigating two other cases of prisoner deaths during CIA-related interrogations. One case involves an independent contractor for the CIA who was interrogating a prisoner in Afghanistan when the man died, knowledgeable sources have said."
 
WHO ARE THESE "INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS" WHO DO THE TORTURE FOR THE CIA?
 
One candidate -- TEAM DELTA:
 
http://www.teamdelta.net/
 
Team Deltaâs offers two Interrogatorâs Workshops. The Professional Workshop is designed for law enforcement, security personnel and other professionals interested in learning or improving interrogation techniques used on the job. This program, taught by trained military intelligence interrogators, focuses on classroom instruction reinforced by practical exercises.The Overview Workshop provides a day of interrogation by the Cadre (One day of our standard POW Interrogation program) followed by instruction in the same techniques that participant have undergone at the hands of Team Deltasâ trained interrogators. The workshop portions include class instruction and role-playing, providing the opportunity to put into practice the techniques learned in each class.Blocks of instruction for both programs cover:Planning and Preparation: Determining what information needs to be extracted from the source and the most effective ways to obtain it. Approaches: Various techniques to get someone to talk. Which approaches work best with which sources under which conditions.  Body Language: Reading body language to see whether the source is lying and to develop what approaches to take with source. Questioning Techniques: Learning structured questioning methods information wonât be lost and all pertinent questions will be asked. Maintaining a time line of events to track the sourceâs responses and to verify his truthfulness and accuracy. TERMINATION! Reinforcing the initial approach used at the start of the interrogation as well as setting up the source with the right mentality so they will continue to talk in the future, either with you or another interrogator. 
The Knock on the Door
In many a time, in many a land,With many a gun in many a hand,They came by the night, they came by the day,They came with their guns to take us away,With their knock on the door, knock on the door,Here they come to take one more.
Look over the oceans, look over the lands,Look over the leaders with blood on their hands,And open your eyes and see what they do,When they knock over there friend, they're knocking for you,With their knock on the door, knock on the door,Here they come to take one more.
Words and Music by Phil Ochs and Appleseed Music ASCAP
 
 

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