[UC] Free Historic Window Panes

2005-01-20 Thread Dan Widyono
We're replacing seven window panes at 622 S 42nd St. today (1/20); they're
going on our porch.  Varying condition, some 6 over 6, some 4 over 4.

Featuring:

Original glass
Historically accurate (for the 20th century) lead paint
Mostly intact, might have to replace two or three glass pieces

Dan W.


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[UC] Inaugural Parade Insight?

2005-01-20 Thread Craigsolve




Anti-Bush groups and other
Blue Babies plan to protest President George W. Bush's election by
lining a portion of the route of today's inaugural parade and turning
their backs to his motorcade as it passes.

You know, its going to work because B2 is going to get out to see what
they're all looking at.

The President has taken his oath of office.

The Republic continues to thrive.

God bless us all; we live in exciting times! 

Ciao,

Craig





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Re: [UC] Fwd: Fw: SOME THOUGHTS...............................

2005-01-20 Thread William H. Magill
On 19 Jan, 2005, at 14:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
COWS
Is it just me, or does anyone else find it amazing that our government 
can track a cow born in Canada almost three years ago, right to the 
stall where she sleeps in the state of Washington. They also tracked 
her calves to their stalls. But they are unable to locate 11 million 
illegal aliens
wandering around our country. Maybe we should give them all a cow.
The ACLU does not care about the government maintaining historical and 
genealogical records on cows.
However, they do oppose the government collecting, let alone 
maintaining such records on humans.

Also, they are termed illegal aliens explicitly because they have 
done everything they possibly can to obscure their existence.

Of course what you don't say is that the original writer was implying 
that such records SHOULD be kept on illegal aliens because they have 
more in common with cows than with humans; but that would never be 
considered an interpretation of the statement unless the writer was a 
member of the Bush Administration.

CONSTITUTION
They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't we 
just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys; 
it's worked for over 200 years and we're not using it anymore.
I thought the left was opposed to imposing American Values on the rest 
of the world.

TEN COMMANDMENTS
Do you know the real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments in 
a Courthouse? You cannot post Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not 
commit adultery, and Thou shalt not bear false witness in a 
building full of lawyers, judges, and politicians. It creates a 
hostile work environment!
This is news?
T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [UC] Fwd: Fw: SOME THOUGHTS...............................

2005-01-20 Thread Mark Krull
Sir
Who or what consitiutes the Left?? I did not vote for 
GW so am I the Left?
Just trying to keep up
-Mark

-Original Message-
From: William H. Magill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jan 20, 2005 1:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Fwd: Fw: SOME THOUGHTS...

On 19 Jan, 2005, at 14:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 COWS
 Is it just me, or does anyone else find it amazing that our government 
 can track a cow born in Canada almost three years ago, right to the 
 stall where she sleeps in the state of Washington. They also tracked 
 her calves to their stalls. But they are unable to locate 11 million 
 illegal aliens
 wandering around our country. Maybe we should give them all a cow.

The ACLU does not care about the government maintaining historical and 
genealogical records on cows.
However, they do oppose the government collecting, let alone 
maintaining such records on humans.

Also, they are termed illegal aliens explicitly because they have 
done everything they possibly can to obscure their existence.

Of course what you don't say is that the original writer was implying 
that such records SHOULD be kept on illegal aliens because they have 
more in common with cows than with humans; but that would never be 
considered an interpretation of the statement unless the writer was a 
member of the Bush Administration.

 CONSTITUTION
 They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't we 
 just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys; 
 it's worked for over 200 years and we're not using it anymore.

I thought the left was opposed to imposing American Values on the rest 
of the world.

 TEN COMMANDMENTS
 Do you know the real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments in 
 a Courthouse? You cannot post Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not 
 commit adultery, and Thou shalt not bear false witness in a 
 building full of lawyers, judges, and politicians. It creates a 
 hostile work environment!

This is news?


T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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[UC] 3-Pack of Dangerous Dogs, seen near 4600 Springfield Ave on Tuesday at 2:30 PM

2005-01-20 Thread Elizabeth F. Campion

Dear Neighbors,

On Tuesday at 2:30 PM, as I was headed to an appointment, I encountered a
pack of 3 dogs, running loose.
Two were obvious Pit mixes, the third seemed terrier like.
The largest was about 75#s and cinnamon colored, one was brindle, the
smallest was brownish and about 35#s.
They were travelling north on 46th toward Springfield.

Lucky for me, the cats that hang out at 4601 Springfield proved a more
tempting target.
The dogs tore across the street, up the lawn and onto the porch,
seemingly in hot pursuit of cat snack.  I did not wait to see if they
caught any cat or kittens.  

Despite the press of my appointment, I was aware that SFDS would be
dismissing 600 children in less than 5 minutes, and I was not prepared to
see cat-snack be redirected to kiddies--bits.

I made a mad dash for the crossing guard at 47th (I didn't even realize I
can still run),  while calling the school on my cell.  The call was a
hope for time for the school to generate a Public Announcement of the
imminent danger.  

It is amazing what flashes through minds when there is danger to self or
children.  I realized I was mentally accounting for parents who walk
their kids to and from school and assigning them a value as practical
assistants in the herding of children into larger groups and away from
the danger of the dogs.  I also dialed 911, but the dispatch service
didn't get potential / preventable risk and demanded I take down the
number for PACA (Philadelphia Animal Control).  

So, with a Crossing Guard restraining the kids to 47th and Springfield,
and Terry B. holding firm on Farragut, and a boiling mass of children
along all of that block of Springfield, we provided a noisy incentive for
the dogs to move on.
The pack headed West on Springfield and than South on 47th (with a brief
dash into one of the alleys on the West side of 47th) to Chester. 
Children were instructed to travel in groups and several adults
volunteered to walk the kids to the trolleys.  Parents, who normally
drive, helped by positioning cars to separate the kids and the dogs until
imminent danger was passed.  There were reports that an adult male had
been attacked, on 46th, before I first saw the pack.  One of the parents
claimed the man was dragged into the street, and that the parent used his
car to tap the largest dog, which let go and led the other dogs to 4601. 
That Driver claims he also called 911, and expected some response. I was
less optimistic after my contact with 911.   The parent headed toward the
school, because he saw the attacked man stand up and appear okay, but the
driver feared for his children who were expected to be on a path that
would intercept that of the dogs.

I write for three reasons.
First is in warning.
I am concerned that these dogs pose a danger to neighbors.
I fear that they will come back to 4601, as there is almost always dry
food, water and cats on that porch.
I called Paul (owner 4601) and suggested he look out before he steps out,
to avoid meeting the pack on his porch.
I also let him know that it was animals not any human that had wreaked
havoc on his porch.
I am faxing a copy of this note to PACA, and I ask you, my neighbors, to
please stay away from these dogs, and to please report their movements or
regular hangouts.
I do not think these are pets, I do not remember seeing collars, only the
blood on the ruff of the largest dog, and the kids I was hoping to
protect.
Second, I'd like to see a greater willingness on the part of Police
Dispatch to deal with preventable incidents.
The Crossing Guard, other mothers and I should not have to become the
perimeter defense for close to 300 children. 
The Principal, Sr. Constance, followed up with Police who claimed they
responded, but it was not while the danger was imminent ( a period of at
least 12-13 minutes).  The dogs spent at least 2-3 minutes at 4601, at
least 5 minutes of sassy posturing as they investigated our group from
the south side of Springfield, and several more minutes each, on 47th
street and in the alley.  The kids had time to see that the lead dog was
covered in relatively fresh blood from his muzzle to behind his ears.  It
was not clear if it was his own blood, that of one of the cats, or even
from the male dragging victim.  Some of the kids were terrified.  
Third, It is that terror, that can be triggered by the sight of any
unleashed dog, that keeps me fierce in my support of leash laws, even
where I know the owner and the dog and believe the owner has voice
control over the dog.  Dogs can not be kept happy, on public property, at
the expense of the peace of mind of pedestrians or cyclists who might
fear them. 

Please be safe and be party to helping all of us be safe and feel (within
reason) safe.

All the best in 2005!
Liz

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RE: [UC] Fwd: Fw: SOME [unfunny] THOUGHTS...............................

2005-01-20 Thread Jonathan Cass
I can't imagine that someone on the left would draft such an e-mail: the
first observation is based on anti-immigrant sentiments. The second is a
reflection on the Constitution- which, admittedly, could go either way --
both the left and right think the Constitution is being disregarded. The
third comment it critical of the separation between church and state.
When I read the comments, I was not thinking left or right, I was
thinking unfunny idiot.

Jonathan A. Cass

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William H. Magill
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 1:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Fwd: Fw: SOME THOUGHTS...


On 19 Jan, 2005, at 14:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 COWS
 Is it just me, or does anyone else find it amazing that our government
 can track a cow born in Canada almost three years ago, right to the
 stall where she sleeps in the state of Washington. They also tracked
 her calves to their stalls. But they are unable to locate 11 million
 illegal aliens
 wandering around our country. Maybe we should give them all a cow.

The ACLU does not care about the government maintaining historical and
genealogical records on cows.
However, they do oppose the government collecting, let alone
maintaining such records on humans.

Also, they are termed illegal aliens explicitly because they have
done everything they possibly can to obscure their existence.

Of course what you don't say is that the original writer was implying
that such records SHOULD be kept on illegal aliens because they have
more in common with cows than with humans; but that would never be
considered an interpretation of the statement unless the writer was a
member of the Bush Administration.

 CONSTITUTION
 They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't we
 just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys;
 it's worked for over 200 years and we're not using it anymore.

I thought the left was opposed to imposing American Values on the rest
of the world.

 TEN COMMANDMENTS
 Do you know the real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments in
 a Courthouse? You cannot post Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not
 commit adultery, and Thou shalt not bear false witness in a
 building full of lawyers, judges, and politicians. It creates a
 hostile work environment!

This is news?


T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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[UC] Re: 3-Pack of Dangerous Dogs, seen near 4600 Springfield Ave on Tuesday at 2:30 PM

2005-01-20 Thread Sharon Nicolary
Thank you for informing us, Liz. Thank you for doing all that you did to keep
these children safe. I am so sorry for that poor man that was attacked. 
We have
to stop this from happening as much as it does.

I am very upset by this as this is a common problem in our neighborhood. (I
suppose that is why the unleashed dog subject line occurs so often on the
list.) I cannot believe that any owner could be that irresponsible. I 
wonder if
you could talk to Paul as well and ask him not to leave that food out 
as this is
just going to attract these horrible dogs to our neighborhood.

Is there any action we can take as a community against this?
Sharon
Quoting Elizabeth F. Campion [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dear Neighbors,
On Tuesday at 2:30 PM, as I was headed to an appointment, I encountered a
pack of 3 dogs, running loose.
Two were obvious Pit mixes, the third seemed terrier like.
The largest was about 75#s and cinnamon colored, one was brindle, the
smallest was brownish and about 35#s.
They were travelling north on 46th toward Springfield.
Lucky for me, the cats that hang out at 4601 Springfield proved a more
tempting target.
The dogs tore across the street, up the lawn and onto the porch,
seemingly in hot pursuit of cat snack.  I did not wait to see if they
caught any cat or kittens.
Despite the press of my appointment, I was aware that SFDS would be
dismissing 600 children in less than 5 minutes, and I was not prepared to
see cat-snack be redirected to kiddies--bits.
I made a mad dash for the crossing guard at 47th (I didn't even realize I
can still run),  while calling the school on my cell.  The call was a
hope for time for the school to generate a Public Announcement of the
imminent danger.
It is amazing what flashes through minds when there is danger to self or
children.  I realized I was mentally accounting for parents who walk
their kids to and from school and assigning them a value as practical
assistants in the herding of children into larger groups and away from
the danger of the dogs.  I also dialed 911, but the dispatch service
didn't get potential / preventable risk and demanded I take down the
number for PACA (Philadelphia Animal Control).
So, with a Crossing Guard restraining the kids to 47th and Springfield,
and Terry B. holding firm on Farragut, and a boiling mass of children
along all of that block of Springfield, we provided a noisy incentive for
the dogs to move on.
The pack headed West on Springfield and than South on 47th (with a brief
dash into one of the alleys on the West side of 47th) to Chester.
Children were instructed to travel in groups and several adults
volunteered to walk the kids to the trolleys.  Parents, who normally
drive, helped by positioning cars to separate the kids and the dogs until
imminent danger was passed.  There were reports that an adult male had
been attacked, on 46th, before I first saw the pack.  One of the parents
claimed the man was dragged into the street, and that the parent used his
car to tap the largest dog, which let go and led the other dogs to 4601.
That Driver claims he also called 911, and expected some response. I was
less optimistic after my contact with 911.   The parent headed toward the
school, because he saw the attacked man stand up and appear okay, but the
driver feared for his children who were expected to be on a path that
would intercept that of the dogs.
I write for three reasons.
First is in warning.
I am concerned that these dogs pose a danger to neighbors.
I fear that they will come back to 4601, as there is almost always dry
food, water and cats on that porch.
I called Paul (owner 4601) and suggested he look out before he steps out,
to avoid meeting the pack on his porch.
I also let him know that it was animals not any human that had wreaked
havoc on his porch.
I am faxing a copy of this note to PACA, and I ask you, my neighbors, to
please stay away from these dogs, and to please report their movements or
regular hangouts.
I do not think these are pets, I do not remember seeing collars, only the
blood on the ruff of the largest dog, and the kids I was hoping to
protect.
Second, I'd like to see a greater willingness on the part of Police
Dispatch to deal with preventable incidents.
The Crossing Guard, other mothers and I should not have to become the
perimeter defense for close to 300 children.
The Principal, Sr. Constance, followed up with Police who claimed they
responded, but it was not while the danger was imminent ( a period of at
least 12-13 minutes).  The dogs spent at least 2-3 minutes at 4601, at
least 5 minutes of sassy posturing as they investigated our group from
the south side of Springfield, and several more minutes each, on 47th
street and in the alley.  The kids had time to see that the lead dog was
covered in relatively fresh blood from his muzzle to behind his ears.  It
was not clear if it was his own blood, that of one of the cats, or even
from the male dragging victim.  Some of the kids were terrified.
 

RE: [UC] Re: 3-Pack of Dangerous Dogs, seen near 4600 Springfield Ave on Tuesday at 2:30 PM

2005-01-20 Thread Kyle Cassidy
Title: RE: [UC] Re: 3-Pack of Dangerous Dogs, seen near 4600 Springfield Ave on Tuesday at 2:30 PM





We could all put the number for animal management in our palm pilots:


http://www.phila.gov/health/units/ehs/vector.html


(215) 685-9000
Hours: Monday - Friday
8 am - 4:30 pm


A few months ago one of our neighbors saw a cat killed by a pair of off-leash off-person dogs on 46th and locust. Maybe put a can of mace in your pocket too.


Is there any action we can take as a community against this?





[UC] sledding in west philly

2005-01-20 Thread Matthew Snyder
Hopefully this weekend we'll have the opportunity to pull the sleds
out of the basement for the first time this year.  But where to sled? 
Clark Park is fun if for no other reason than the chaos you get
anytime you mix kids and snow, but the sledding there leaves something
to be desired.  Where's the nearest good, reasonably safe hill?

--
Matthew Snyder
Philadelphia, PA

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Re: [UC] sledding in west philly

2005-01-20 Thread Dan Widyono
 to be desired.  Where's the nearest good, reasonably safe hill?

Field trip to Mt. St. Helen's?

Dan W.

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RE: [UC] Fwd: tsumnami aid overkill and recommendation

2005-01-20 Thread Kyle Cassidy
Title: RE: [UC] Fwd: tsumnami aid overkill and recommendation





what this has to do with west philly elludes me, but i want to point out that when you give $100 to the red cross, it might not get used to help the victims of the tsunami, but it could get used to help an equally homeless and equally disaster trodden family who suffered their loss at the hands of a not-so-popular event who might otherwise _not_ get the $100 because CNN's not covering their particular landslide/flood/war/sasquach attack

kc


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jim and Viet-Huong Tran Kurtz
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:56 PM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] Fwd: tsumnami aid overkill and recommendation



I just received this from a friendand former colleague presently living in Southeast Asia. Interesting perspective. 
Jim Kurtz


Bruce Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:06:27 +0700
From: Bruce Shoemaker 
To: B.Shoe 
Subject: tsumnami aid overkill and recommendation


(NOTE: Please feel free to forward this to anyone who may be interested.).


Friends,


Since I am in Southeast Asia at the moment a lot of people have been
asking me about the tsunami and also support for aid efforts there. I
am not in the area where the tsunami hit, in fact I am in landlocked
Laos at the moment. But I have been talking to a lot of people who are
involved in or observing the aid effort.


I would caution anyone thinking of providing further monetary assistance
to these relief efforts. The well-known agencies are already drowning
in funds. They may not say so but this is basically the case. Much 
more than they can rationally use. In Aceh it is! total chaos with, I 
think, more than a hundred groups all trying to set up programs, fight 
for turf, and spend money. There is little coordination among many of 
these groups. There are already more medicines than they can possibly 
use but everyday more planeloads are arriving.


When you give, say, $100 to a large mainstream US based relief agency
this is considered unrestricted funds. Most or even all of your
contribution can be used for management, administration, or fundraising
costs in the US rather than for direct aid to local beneficiaries. Even
when you designate your contribution for a specific cause, like the
tsunami, many agencies will take a quarter or more of your contribution
off the top for their well-paid (quite possibly more well paid than
you!) staff and related expenses in the US. They do this as a
percentage of their overall costs so there is also a pressure to move
funds and spend as much as they can in order t! o justify higher costs in
the US. The tsunami has become a huge bonanza for some of these groups,
they literally don't know what to do with the money. Not all groups 
operate like that by any means but you do need to be careful about who 
you give your money to.


While the tsunami was certainly a compelling and dramatic event, it
needs to be put into perspective. Everyday around the globe thousands
of people are sick and hungry and die because of preventable reasons.
What is really needed is continued support for local groups and
movements that are committed to peace, social justice, and ecological
restoration and are trying to work on these long-term issues.


If you are really interested in helping the tsunami victims I would
suggest that you consider providing your support to some lesser known
groups that are doing long-term work. One I can recommend is the
Mangrove Action Project (MAP) which is affiliated with the US based
Earth I! sland Institute. MAP is working to protect and restore coastal
mangrove forests in Southeast Asia. Mangroves provide important
livelihood benefits to local communities but these once-extensive
coastal forests have been increasingly uprooted for development
projects, tourist resorts, and shrimp farms mainly benefiting outside
interests. Mangroves also provide significant protection against the
type of devastation that occurred with the tsunami. One these mangroves
are gone, coastal communities are much more exposed and vulnerable. MAP
is working with local communities to restore mangroves. They get by on
very little money, work closely with local groups in Indonesia,
Thailand, and Cambodia, and are doing good work. Even the conservative
Wall Street Journal had a December 31st article about how the loss of
mangroves has contributed to the tsunami impact. MAP's efforts are the
type of long-term work that is needed and I believe that support for! 
this kind of thing is much more effective than is that for short term
relief work. MAP could use your support. You can find out more about
them on their website: *http://www.earthisland.org/map/map.html.


*I also do hear of other efforts here in the region I work in (Laos,
Vietnam, and Cambodia) that are particularly worthy and I am happy to
provide more info on some of these groups to anyone 

Re: [UC] sledding in west philly

2005-01-20 Thread Mark Krull
Not sure. How much snow are they calling for now??

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jan 20, 2005 3:23 PM
To: univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] sledding in west philly

Hopefully this weekend we'll have the opportunity to pull the sleds
out of the basement for the first time this year.  But where to sled? 
Clark Park is fun if for no other reason than the chaos you get
anytime you mix kids and snow, but the sledding there leaves something
to be desired.  Where's the nearest good, reasonably safe hill?

--
Matthew Snyder
Philadelphia, PA

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RE: [UC] Fwd: tsunami aid overkill and recommendation

2005-01-20 Thread Tancredi, Sue M.



i 
worked in the non profit world for a long time and found this to be true. plus, 
if you designate an org on your united way, my old org saw very little of the 
total contribution, it took us forever to get $3.00 checks and sometimes you did 
not know who gave it so you didn't know who to thank.

meanwhile, my husband did a very expensive condo re-do 
for a top exec of a famous local non profit involved in all this.the guy was 
making $800,000 a yr, yet he still stiffed us for $3,000 and the cabinet people 
for $8,000. and he turned around and sold the condo right after we finished it, 
listing it for over a million dollars.

i give 
locally to groups i know use the money well - like the bicycle coalition- or 
national groups i am very involved with that do work that others do not - like 
the national trust. giving is a very good thing, but buyer beware. what is said 
about the relief effort below has got to be very true. it should be noted that 
doctors w/o borders stopped taking money a while ago, because they had no means 
to deal with all the cash. 

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of Jim and Viet-Huong Tran KurtzSent: Thursday, January 
  20, 2005 2:56 PMTo: UnivCity@list.purple.comSubject: 
  [UC] Fwd: tsumnami aid overkill and recommendation
  I just received this from a friendand former colleaguepresently 
  living in Southeast Asia. Interesting perspective. 
  Jim KurtzBruce Shoemaker 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: 
Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:06:27 +0700From: Bruce Shoemaker 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "B.Shoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: 
tsumnami aid overkill and recommendation(NOTE: Please feel free to 
forward this to anyone who may be interested.).Friends,Since 
I am in Southeast Asia at the moment a lot of people have beenasking me 
about the tsunami and also support for aid efforts there. Iam not in the 
area where the tsunami hit, in fact I am in landlockedLaos at the 
moment. But I have been talking to a lot of people who areinvolved in or 
observing the aid effort.I would caution anyone thinking of 
providing further monetary assistanceto these relief efforts. The 
well-known agencies are already drowningin funds. They may not say so 
but this is basically the case. Much more than they can rationally use. 
In Aceh it is! total chaos with, I think, more than a hundred groups all 
trying to set up programs, fight for turf, and spend money. There is 
little coordination among many of these groups. There are already more 
medicines than they can possibly use but everyday more planeloads are 
arriving.When you give, say, $100 to a large mainstream US based 
relief agencythis is considered "unrestricted" funds. Most or even all 
of yourcontribution can be used for management, administration, or 
fundraisingcosts in the US rather than for direct aid to local 
beneficiaries. Evenwhen you designate your contribution for a specific 
cause, like thetsunami, many agencies will take a quarter or more of 
your contributionoff the top for their well-paid (quite possibly more 
well paid thanyou!) staff and related expenses in the US. They do this 
as apercentage of their overall costs so there is also a pressure to 
movefunds and spend as much as they can in order t! o justify higher 
costs inthe US. The tsunami has become a huge bonanza for some of these 
groups,they literally don't know what to do with the money. Not all 
groups operate like that by any means but you do need to be careful 
about who you give your money to.While the tsunami was certainly 
a compelling and dramatic event, itneeds to be put into perspective. 
Everyday around the globe thousandsof people are sick and hungry and die 
because of preventable reasons.What is really needed is continued 
support for local groups andmovements that are committed to peace, 
social justice, and ecologicalrestoration and are trying to work on 
these long-term issues.If you are really interested in helping the 
tsunami victims I wouldsuggest that you consider providing your support 
to some lesser knowngroups that are doing long-term work. One I can 
recommend is theMangrove Action Project (MAP) which is affiliated with 
the US basedEarth I! sland Institute. MAP is working to protect and 
restore coastalmangrove forests in Southeast Asia. Mangroves provide 
importantlivelihood benefits to local communities but these 
once-extensivecoastal forests have been increasingly uprooted for 
developmentprojects, tourist resorts, and shrimp farms mainly benefiting 
outsideinterests. Mangroves also provide significant protection against 
thetype of devastation that occurred with the tsunami. One these 
mangrovesare gone, coastal communities are much more exposed and 
vulnerable. MAPis working with local 

Re: [UC] sledding in west philly

2005-01-20 Thread Mark Krull
Well, 
Lankanau Hospital near City Line Ave had a great hill.
Not sure they allow sledding. I went as a kid in the 70's

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 to be desired.  Where's the nearest good, reasonably safe hill?

Field trip to Mt. St. Helen's?

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RE: [UC] Fwd: tsumnami aid overkill and recommendation

2005-01-20 Thread Mark Krull
Title: RE: [UC] Fwd: tsumnami aid overkill and recommendation


Touche!!-Original Message- From: Kyle Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Jan 20, 2005 3:56 PM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: RE: [UC] Fwd: tsumnami aid overkill and recommendation 
what this has to do with west philly elludes me, but i want to point out that when you give $100 to the red cross, it might not get used to help the victims of the tsunami, but it could get used to help an equally homeless and equally disaster trodden family who suffered their loss at the hands of a not-so-popular event who might otherwise _not_ get the $100 because CNN's not covering their particular landslide/flood/war/sasquach attack
kc 
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jim and Viet-Huong Tran Kurtz Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:56 PM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: [UC] Fwd: tsumnami aid overkill and recommendation 
I just received this from a friendand former colleague presently living in Southeast Asia. Interesting perspective. Jim Kurtz 
Bruce Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:06:27 +0700 From: Bruce Shoemaker To: "B.Shoe" Subject: tsumnami aid overkill and recommendation 
(NOTE: Please feel free to forward this to anyone who may be interested.). 
Friends, 
Since I am in Southeast Asia at the moment a lot of people have been asking me about the tsunami and also support for aid efforts there. I am not in the area where the tsunami hit, in fact I am in landlocked Laos at the moment. But I have been talking to a lot of people who are involved in or observing the aid effort. 
I would caution anyone thinking of providing further monetary assistance to these relief efforts. The well-known agencies are already drowning in funds. They may not say so but this is basically the case. Much more than they can rationally use. In Aceh it is! total chaos with, I think, more than a hundred groups all trying to set up programs, fight for turf, and spend money. There is little coordination among many of these groups. There are already more medicines than they can possibly use but everyday more planeloads are arriving. 
When you give, say, $100 to a large mainstream US based relief agency this is considered "unrestricted" funds. Most or even all of your contribution can be used for management, administration, or fundraising costs in the US rather than for direct aid to local beneficiaries. Even when you designate your contribution for a specific cause, like the tsunami, many agencies will take a quarter or more of your contribution off the top for their well-paid (quite possibly more well paid than you!) staff and related expenses in the US. They do this as a percentage of their overall costs so there is also a pressure to move funds and spend as much as they can in order t! o justify higher costs in the US. The tsunami has become a huge bonanza for some of these groups, they literally don't know what to do with the money. Not all groups operate like that by any means but you do need to be careful about who you give your money to. 
While the tsunami was certainly a compelling and dramatic event, it needs to be put into perspective. Everyday around the globe thousands of people are sick and hungry and die because of preventable reasons. What is really needed is continued support for local groups and movements that are committed to peace, social justice, and ecological restoration and are trying to work on these long-term issues. 
If you are really interested in helping the tsunami victims I would suggest that you consider providing your support to some lesser known groups that are doing long-term work. One I can recommend is the Mangrove Action Project (MAP) which is affiliated with the US based Earth I! sland Institute. MAP is working to protect and restore coastal mangrove forests in Southeast Asia. Mangroves provide important livelihood benefits to local communities but these once-extensive coastal forests have been increasingly uprooted for development projects, tourist resorts, and shrimp farms mainly benefiting outside interests. Mangroves also provide significant protection against the type of devastation that occurred with the tsunami. One these mangroves are gone, coastal communities are much more exposed and vulnerable. MAP is working with local communities to restore mangroves. They get by on very little money, work closely with local groups in Indonesia, Thailand, and Cambodia, and are doing good work. Even the conservative Wall Street Journal had a December 31st article about how the loss of mangroves has contributed to the tsunami impact. MAP's efforts are the type of long-term work that is needed and I believe that support for! this kind of thing is much more effective than is that for short term relief work. MAP could use your support. You can find out more about them on their website: *http://www.earthisland.org/map/map.html. 
*I also do hear of other 

Re: [UC] sledding in west philly

2005-01-20 Thread William H. Magill
On Thursday, January 20, 2005, at 03:23 PM, Matthew Snyder wrote:
Hopefully this weekend we'll have the opportunity to pull the sleds
out of the basement for the first time this year.  But where to sled?
Clark Park is fun if for no other reason than the chaos you get
anytime you mix kids and snow, but the sledding there leaves something
to be desired.  Where's the nearest good, reasonably safe hill?
At one time, not that long ago, back around the Green Administration, 
the CIty ran a toboggan run on the hill adjacent to the Mann Music 
Center. (with a rope tow and all that.) Don't know if that area is 
open or closed these days.

Depending on the amount of snow, there is always the slope of Belmont 
Plateau in front of the old Playhouse in the Park. Which is also an 
excellent Kite flying location, and used frequently as a convenient 
place to stop and watch the lights of the City :). Be warned, however, 
it's a LONG walk back up!!!

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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Re: [UC] sledding in west philly

2005-01-20 Thread Craigsolve



In a message dated 1/20/2005 6:37:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Where's 
  the nearest good, reasonably safe hill?
Cobbs Creek Park - the hill just east of the environmental center was 
good. Also, may be some spots just east of Marshall Rd  Cobbs.

If you want to travel -Walnut Lane Golf Course, just off of Henry Ave., has 
some spots.

Craig


RE: [UC] sledding in west philly

2005-01-20 Thread Anthony Lower
I grew up right around there. When I was a kid in the, the run was still
there but abandoned and falling apart. Didn't stop us from using it or the
hills around the Mann site which was a driving range/miniature golf course
back then.

Antony

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Subject: Re: [UC] sledding in west philly

On Thursday, January 20, 2005, at 03:23 PM, Matthew Snyder wrote:
 Hopefully this weekend we'll have the opportunity to pull the sleds
 out of the basement for the first time this year.  But where to sled?
 Clark Park is fun if for no other reason than the chaos you get
 anytime you mix kids and snow, but the sledding there leaves something
 to be desired.  Where's the nearest good, reasonably safe hill?

At one time, not that long ago, back around the Green Administration, 
the CIty ran a toboggan run on the hill adjacent to the Mann Music 
Center. (with a rope tow and all that.) Don't know if that area is 
open or closed these days.

Depending on the amount of snow, there is always the slope of Belmont 
Plateau in front of the old Playhouse in the Park. Which is also an 
excellent Kite flying location, and used frequently as a convenient 
place to stop and watch the lights of the City :). Be warned, however, 
it's a LONG walk back up!!!

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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