Re: [UC] Good intentions are not enough; it takes money, too
Dubin, Elisabeth wrote: I'm hard-pressed to see what lessons a regular homeowner in UC can learn from the house-museum problem. The problems that plague historic house museums are real, but we should not confuse those issues with the historic districting debate going on in our neighborhood. House museums need endowments and ticket sales to pay for staff, maintenance, and improvements. If no one visits a house museum, it's a valid question to ask, Should the museum continue to operate? A historic district in a residential neighborhood is a separate animal. I don't charge admission to visit my house, and I don't have an endowment. If visitation drops, I'm not forced to cut back my staff. I can turn my house into a BB if I feel like it and the zoning board agrees. I'm not pretending to present a re-enactment of the past, and I don't need to make sure no one sits on my antique furniture. Barbara Silberman, in her article, says, As a society, we need to establish a greater range of options so that local preservationists can make smart choices about the buildings they save. I would think this is more of an endorsement for the historic homeowner tax credit, or for commercial tax credits or facade easements, than a criticism of Historic Districting. I'm sure Al will disagree with my separation of this two issues, so I look forward to reading the response. historically correct porch spindle$89 per history buff, $89 per non-buff admission to historic house museum$15 per history buff, $00 per non-buff another one of elisabeth's patented analogiespriceless . laserbeam® [aka ray] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Good intentions are not enough; it takes money, too
Hey braniac, take that fancy analogy talk over to the Culture list. You are making me feel stupid. Jonathan A. Cass -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of L a s e r B e a m ® Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:05 AM To: Univcity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Good intentions are not enough; it takes money, too Dubin, Elisabeth wrote: I'm hard-pressed to see what lessons a regular homeowner in UC can learn from the house-museum problem. The problems that plague historic house museums are real, but we should not confuse those issues with the historic districting debate going on in our neighborhood. House museums need endowments and ticket sales to pay for staff, maintenance, and improvements. If no one visits a house museum, it's a valid question to ask, Should the museum continue to operate? A historic district in a residential neighborhood is a separate animal. I don't charge admission to visit my house, and I don't have an endowment. If visitation drops, I'm not forced to cut back my staff. I can turn my house into a BB if I feel like it and the zoning board agrees. I'm not pretending to present a re-enactment of the past, and I don't need to make sure no one sits on my antique furniture. Barbara Silberman, in her article, says, As a society, we need to establish a greater range of options so that local preservationists can make smart choices about the buildings they save. I would think this is more of an endorsement for the historic homeowner tax credit, or for commercial tax credits or facade easements, than a criticism of Historic Districting. I'm sure Al will disagree with my separation of this two issues, so I look forward to reading the response. historically correct porch spindle$89 per history buff, $89 per non-buff admission to historic house museum$15 per history buff, $00 per non-buff another one of elisabeth's patented analogiespriceless . laserbeam® [aka ray] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] UPenn Open Trustees Meetings this Thu Fri
http://www.upenn.edu/secretary/trustees/opentrusteemtgs.html Open Trustee Meetings Thursday and Friday, February 10 and 11, 2005 Meetings of the Trustees of the University of Pennsylvania will be held on Thursday and Friday, February 10 and 11, 2005, at the Inn at Penn. Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:00 - 10:00 AM Facilities Campus Planning Committee Regent/St. Marks 10:45 AM - 12:15 PM Neighborhood Initiatives Committee Woodlands B Student Life Committee Thomas Webb Richards Suite 2:15 - 3:15 PM Budget and Finance Committee Woodlands AB 2:15 - 3:45 PM Academic Policy Committee Thomas Webb Richards Suite External Affairs Committee Woodlands CD - Friday, February 11, 2005 10:45 - 11:45 PM Stated Meeting Woodlands Ballroom --end quoted material-- Cheers, Jayfar -- PhilaDeco.com http://PhilaDeco.com AIM: PhilaDeco Committee to Save Convention Hall fax bank http://www.hallwatch.org/faxbank/conventionhall/ You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Good intentions are not enough; it takes money, too
I'm trying to get it so when you google priceless analogies you get my name as the first listing. Thanks for participating in this effort! :) Oh, and please use the correct term: baluster instead of spindle. Spindle reminds me of spinster, which reminds me of sewing circles, which remind me of neighborhood squabbling, which reminds me of Clark Park, which makes me think of sweaty bathhouses, and then I can't concentrate all of a sudden. ELISABETH DUBIN Hillier ARCHITECTURE One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636- | F 215 636-9989 | hillier.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of L a s e r B e a m (r) Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:05 AM To: Univcity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Good intentions are not enough; it takes money, too Dubin, Elisabeth wrote: I'm hard-pressed to see what lessons a regular homeowner in UC can learn from the house-museum problem. The problems that plague historic house museums are real, but we should not confuse those issues with the historic districting debate going on in our neighborhood. House museums need endowments and ticket sales to pay for staff, maintenance, and improvements. If no one visits a house museum, it's a valid question to ask, Should the museum continue to operate? A historic district in a residential neighborhood is a separate animal. I don't charge admission to visit my house, and I don't have an endowment. If visitation drops, I'm not forced to cut back my staff. I can turn my house into a BB if I feel like it and the zoning board agrees. I'm not pretending to present a re-enactment of the past, and I don't need to make sure no one sits on my antique furniture. Barbara Silberman, in her article, says, As a society, we need to establish a greater range of options so that local preservationists can make smart choices about the buildings they save. I would think this is more of an endorsement for the historic homeowner tax credit, or for commercial tax credits or facade easements, than a criticism of Historic Districting. I'm sure Al will disagree with my separation of this two issues, so I look forward to reading the response. historically correct porch spindle$89 per history buff, $89 per non-buff admission to historic house museum$15 per history buff, $00 per non-buff another one of elisabeth's patented analogiespriceless . laserbeam(r) [aka ray] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Good intentions are not enough; it takes money, too
In a message dated 2/9/2005 11:13:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, and please use the correct term: "baluster" instead of "spindle." You couldn't have put the argument against historic designation of us ordinary folks' property more succinctly. Always at your service and ready for a dialog,Al Krigman
Re: [UC] Good intentions are not enough; it takes money, too
Dubin, Elisabeth wrote: I'm trying to get it so when you google priceless analogies you get my name as the first listing. Thanks for participating in this effort! :) Oh, and please use the correct term: baluster instead of spindle. Spindle reminds me of spinster, which reminds me of sewing circles, which remind me of neighborhood squabbling, which reminds me of Clark Park, which makes me think of sweaty bathhouses, and then I can't concentrate all of a sudden. :-) how cool is this: the word baluster comes from the italian for pomegranate flower, which, coincidentally enough, is shaped like a baluster: http://tinyurl.com/6yzaa . laserbeam® [aka ray] spindle reminds me of whorl, which reminds me of wool, which reminds me of darning, which reminds me of darning eggs, which remind me of egg-and-dart moulding, which WHOA I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN! You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] guy casing my house? or just doing his job? or who to whack with a tire iron
Title: guy casing my house? or just doing his job? or who to whack with a tire iron So while we're getting ready to leave for work today, christy says there's some guy in our back yard! I look, and sure enough, there's some guy tramping around the back of the house. So I run outside and ask can I help you? which sort of half means can I help you? because he's wearing a tool belt and looks like he might be some sort of person from PSEG doing nice things like keeping my house from exploding or finding a water main leak and half means should I beat you up and sit on you till the cops get here? -- he told me he was doing electrical work for the woman next door and was looking for the place the power came into the house. I decided his story was plausable, but it bothers me that I'm so paranoid. Ultimately we let Mr. Hugs off of his chain, so if anybody does break in, there's gonna be bits of burglar smeared all over the walls when we get home.
RE: [UC] guy casing my house? or just doing his job? or who to w hack with a tire iron
Title: RE: [UC] guy casing my house? or just doing his job? or who to whack with a tire iron Good advice john. Especially about the neighbor's phone numbers. Maybe I should have a party and invite all the neighbors I don't know How do I find out who my block captian is? This is her freakin' job! My new neighbor has yet to move in. she's apparantly a housing speculator, she buys a house, lives in it for six months fixing it up, then sells it and moves on. Currently she's still living in the last place, which is in long island, she was supposed to move in here about a month or so ago. Or so said one of the tennants while they were dumping their refuse in the front lawn. -Original Message- From: John Ellingsworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 1:34 PM To: Kyle Cassidy Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] guy casing my house? or just doing his job? or who to whack with a tire iron Rule #1: Always report suspicious activity to the police. Rule #2: Know your neighbors telephone number. The man in your backyard wouldn't mind the police asking him any questions if he were there on legitimate business. Rule #3: Never leave a cat to do a dog's job. Eh, better to be paraniod than indifferent, as so many people are in the city. Hope your house is still safe. Today Kyle Cassidy wrote: So while we're getting ready to leave for work today, christy says there's some guy in our back yard! I look, and sure enough, there's some guy tramping around the back of the house. So I run outside and ask can I help you? which sort of half means can I help you? because he's wearing a tool belt and looks like he might be some sort of person from PSEG doing nice things like keeping my house from exploding or finding a water main leak and half means should I beat you up and sit on you till the cops get here? -- he told me he was doing electrical work for the woman next door and was looking for the place the power came into the house. I decided his story was plausable, but it bothers me that I'm so paranoid. Ultimately we let Mr. Hugs off of his chain, so if anybody does break in, there's gonna be bits of burglar smeared all over the walls when we get home. -- Thanks, John Ellingsworth 2005-02-09
Re: [UC] guy casing my house? or just doing his job? or who to whack with a tire iron
Rule #1: Always report suspicious activity to the police. Rule #2: Know your neighbors telephone number. The man in your backyard wouldn't mind the police asking him any questions if he were there on legitimate business. Rule #3: Never leave a cat to do a dog's job. Eh, better to be paraniod than indifferent, as so many people are in the city. Hope your house is still safe. Today Kyle Cassidy wrote: So while we're getting ready to leave for work today, christy says there's some guy in our back yard! I look, and sure enough, there's some guy tramping around the back of the house. So I run outside and ask can I help you? which sort of half means can I help you? because he's wearing a tool belt and looks like he might be some sort of person from PSEG doing nice things like keeping my house from exploding or finding a water main leak and half means should I beat you up and sit on you till the cops get here? -- he told me he was doing electrical work for the woman next door and was looking for the place the power came into the house. I decided his story was plausable, but it bothers me that I'm so paranoid. Ultimately we let Mr. Hugs off of his chain, so if anybody does break in, there's gonna be bits of burglar smeared all over the walls when we get home. -- Thanks, John Ellingsworth 2005-02-09 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Furnishings thieves, Advice?
A friend of mine recently bought a house in g-town and it was burglarized over the weekend. They came in after he had done work on it all day, and stole the interior door, the mantels on the first floor, gas lamps, stained glass, etc. The police were contacted and a report filed. Since this crime has happened in UC, does anyone have any advice or experience in dealing with this that they could share? -- Thanks, John Ellingsworth 2005-02-09 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] guy casing my house? or just doing his job? or who to w hack with a tire iron
Forget the block captain; do it yourself! Introduce yourself to your neighbors, tell them you are concerned about crime, and that you want to compile a list of contact information to share with the people on your block. For those who are apprehensive, tell them of the time you saw a guy in your neighbors backyard, you wanted to call and tell the neighbor, but you didn't have the number. Of course, some people will not wnat to give you their number for various reasons; put them on the other 'list'. See my follow up about empty houses; if there is anything of value in their, she may want to rent a dog. Or something like that. These chaps who are breaking into older houses are REAL good and quick; they can do it, because, hey, who questions a contractor, especially one with a tire iron? Today Kyle Cassidy wrote: Good advice john. Especially about the neighbor's phone numbers. Maybe I should have a party and invite all the neighbors I don't know How do I find out who my block captian is? This is her freakin' job! My new neighbor has yet to move in. she's apparantly a housing speculator, she buys a house, lives in it for six months fixing it up, then sells it and moves on. Currently she's still living in the last place, which is in long island, she was supposed to move in here about a month or so ago. Or so said one of the tennants while they were dumping their refuse in the front lawn. -Original Message- From: John Ellingsworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 1:34 PM To: Kyle Cassidy Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] guy casing my house? or just doing his job? or who to whack with a tire iron Rule #1: Always report suspicious activity to the police. Rule #2: Know your neighbors telephone number. The man in your backyard wouldn't mind the police asking him any questions if he were there on legitimate business. Rule #3: Never leave a cat to do a dog's job. Eh, better to be paraniod than indifferent, as so many people are in the city. Hope your house is still safe. Today Kyle Cassidy wrote: So while we're getting ready to leave for work today, christy says there's some guy in our back yard! I look, and sure enough, there's some guy tramping around the back of the house. So I run outside and ask can I help you? which sort of half means can I help you? because he's wearing a tool belt and looks like he might be some sort of person from PSEG doing nice things like keeping my house from exploding or finding a water main leak and half means should I beat you up and sit on you till the cops get here? -- he told me he was doing electrical work for the woman next door and was looking for the place the power came into the house. I decided his story was plausable, but it bothers me that I'm so paranoid. Ultimately we let Mr. Hugs off of his chain, so if anybody does break in, there's gonna be bits of burglar smeared all over the walls when we get home. -- Thanks, John Ellingsworth 2005-02-09 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Furnishings thieves, Advice?
Oh your poor friends! What a horrible thing to come home to. The only thing I can think of is to call around to anyplace in the area that deals with/sells architectural fixtures. There may be a chance that whoever stole these sold them to a dealer. Good luck to your friends. Wendy
Re: [UC] guy casing my house? or just doing his job? or who to whack with a ...
Many times contractors will do electrical work - even outside-- I had the main feeds repalced into my house (and a new meter put on) by a contractor cause it would have taken Peco forever to do. I had a new service installed. I asked the electrician how he connected the new wires onto the main feed and he said very carefully one at a time. So the best thing to do is call the neighbor if you have questions. On Feb 9, 2005, at 2:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a case like this, I would have asked to see ID. If this person is working for the electric company, he'd (I'm pretty sure) have that visible. No ID? I'd be really skeptical about his story. Also, when you went out front, did you see a PECO or electrician's truck/van? If the answers -andy You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] guy casing my house? or just doing his job? or who to whack with a ...
"So while we're getting ready to leave for work today, christy says "there's some guy in our back yard!" I look, and sure enough, there's some guy tramping around the back of the house. So I run outside and ask "can I help you?" which sort of half means "can I help you?" because he's wearing a tool belt and looks like he might be some sort of person from PSEG doing nice things like keeping my house from exploding or finding a water main leak and half means "should I beat you up and sit on you till the cops get here?" -- he told me he was doing electrical work for the woman next door and was looking for the place the power came into the house. I decided his story was plausable, but it bothers me that I'm so paranoid. Ultimately we let Mr. Hugs off of his chain, so if anybody does break in, there's gonna be bits of burglar smeared all over the walls when we get home." Kyle, In a case like this, I would have asked to see ID. If this person is working for the electric company, he'd (I'm pretty sure)have that visible. No ID? I'd be really skeptical abouthis story. Also, when you went out front, did you see a PECO or electrician's truck/van? If the answers to these questions is no, then I would have called the police, told them somone was on your property claiming to be an electrician, but there was no reason for him to be in your yard, that you think your home is being "cased". They should send someone out to investigate a potential break-in. You gotta get those first floor bars and do something to make it harder to get into your back yard. Be safe you guys! Wendy
[UC] Fox Non-News
Did anyone happen to catch a segment on Fox "News" last night regarding a supposed dead-beat developer at 18th and Christian? It seems from what I've heard thatthe networkreported the story without regard for the facts, and I'm upset by it and wish I could somehow see the TV segment. The gist of it is that a friend of mine has been struggling valiantly with the Zoning Board for almost a year to get the appropriate permits to redevelop a 20-year abandoned post office into condominiums, and the building has appeared to languish during this process. Meanwhile, Fox news reports that the developers "abandoned" the project and that it's now a public nuisance. The funny thing is that my friend finally did just get the zoning permit, so work will begin immediately. Anyway, I'm curious if anyone saw it or, even more unlikely, TIVO'd it? ELISABETH DUBINHillier ARCHITECTUREOne South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636- | F 215 636-9989 | hillier.com
[UC] Neighborhood News
Today I was standing in line at the 40th Street Bucks County Coffee. While in line overheard two Penn students discussing a civil case being brought against a bicyclist who struck and hurt a pedestrian on Locust Walk. I have looked on all the neighborhod news services and can find nothing about this. Has anyone else heard about this?
RE: [UC] Neighborhood News
I have not heard anything about that case, but I defended Bicycle Therapy in a well publicized case involving a cyclist to cyclist accident on West River Drive some years ago. Google "Sherlock bicycle cass" and read the first two hits. Ahh, to be young and famous again. Jonathan A. Cass Silverman, Bernheim Vogel Two Penn Center Plaza, Suite 910 Philadelphia, PA 19102 Tel: 215-636-4435 Fax: 215-636-3999 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This electronic message contains information from the law firm of Silverman Bernheim Vogel which may be confidential or privileged. This information is intended for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify use immediately by telephone, 215-569-, or by e-mail reply. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 5:00 PMTo: Univcity@list.purple.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [UC] Neighborhood NewsToday I was standing in line at the 40th Street Bucks County Coffee. While in line overheard two Penn students discussing a civil case being brought against a bicyclist who struck and hurt a pedestrian on Locust Walk.I have looked on all the neighborhod news services and can find nothing about this. Has anyone else heard about this?
[UC] FW: Free ride to Harrisburg Transit Funding Rally
Attached is information regarding an important rally for mass transit in Harrisburg. Matt Wolfe -Original Message-From: Scott Maits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 5:47 PMTo: matthewCc: nigroSubject: Free ride to Harrisburg Transit Funding Rally Matt- Could you pass a message onto the UC list servs ? Thanks. I know this is important to you. Dear Concerned Citizens, The Delaware Valley Association of Rail Passengers, "the voice of the riding public" along with other transit advocates are looking forsupporters to go to Harrisburg Monday for the day to lobby for increased transit funding from the state. This is in context of increasing operating funding for other distressed transit authorities across the state and even expansion funding. While none of us is completely happy with the way SEPTA is managed never the less it is time to demonstrate our support and need of public transit in front of the people that can do something about it. Buses leave by 9am sharp this Monday January the 14th from JFK and 30th Street by the Philadelphia Amtrak Station. Further information can be had going to the following websites: http://www.patransit.org/mission.htm http://dvarp.org Anyone interestedmust RSVP me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will let the organizers know how many to expect. Interestingly the bill that will actually get the transit fundinghas emergedbut this isnot a done deal and we still need to demonstrate how serious this is to the rest of the state. Thanks for your concern and we hope you can also demonstrate your support. Scott W Maits Director Delaware ValleyAssociation of Rail Passengers
RE: [UC] Neighborhood News
For future reference, civil cases filed in the Philadelphia Court of Common Pleascan be looked up, without cost or registration,at: http://fjdweb2.phila.gov/fjd1/repl1/zk_fjd_public_qry_00.zp_main_idx.html The site does go down periodically. Jonathan A. Cass Silverman, Bernheim Vogel Two Penn Center Plaza, Suite 910 Philadelphia, PA 19102 Tel: 215-636-4435 Fax: 215-636-3999 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This electronic message contains information from the law firm of Silverman Bernheim Vogel which may be confidential or privileged. This information is intended for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify use immediately by telephone, 215-569-, or by e-mail reply. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 5:00 PMTo: Univcity@list.purple.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [UC] Neighborhood NewsToday I was standing in line at the 40th Street Bucks County Coffee. While in line overheard two Penn students discussing a civil case being brought against a bicyclist who struck and hurt a pedestrian on Locust Walk.I have looked on all the neighborhod news services and can find nothing about this. Has anyone else heard about this?
RE: [UC] Furnishings thieves, Advice? (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:32:51 -0500 From: Nicole Mcewan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [UC] Furnishings thieves, Advice? I read this story again and again on this listserv and would like to offer words of advice to anyone planning to buy a house with period details. Actually, any house becauses thieves often go after tools as well. This problem is the main reason why we moved into our house the day of or day after settlement, even though we had two weeks to go on our lease. I recommend getting a hard-wired security system if you're doing work or having rotating friends or relatives camp out during rehab. Also, don't be methodical in your hours and don't park your car on the same block in the same space. Thieves typically case a house over a period of time in this scenario. They look for patterns and may even have a neighbor (as terrible as that sounds) informing them. Also leave lights on and a radio blaring. Even if you have to pop a tent in your own house and rough it during work; it beats have the very details that sold the house gone forever. Nicole McEwan gt;From: John Ellingsworth lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; gt;Reply-To: John Ellingsworth lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; gt;To: UnivCity@list.purple.com gt;Subject: [UC] Furnishings thieves, Advice? gt;Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 10:42:57 -0800 (PST) gt; gt;A friend of mine recently bought a house in g-town and it was gt;burglarized over the weekend. They came in after he had done work gt;on it all day, and stole the interior door, the mantels on the first gt;floor, gas lamps, stained glass, etc. The police were contacted gt;and a report filed. gt; gt;Since this crime has happened in UC, does anyone have any advice or gt;experience in dealing with this that they could share? gt; gt;-- gt;Thanks, gt; gt;John Ellingsworth gt;2005-02-09 gt; gt;You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the gt;list named quot;UnivCity.quot; To unsubscribe or for archive information, gt;see gt;lt;http://www.purple.com/list.htmlgt;. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] FW: Free ride to Harrisburg Transit Funding Rally
In a message dated 2/9/2005 5:54:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: information regarding an important rally for mass transit in Harrisburg. What kind of a damned left wing kook are you? CINC Bush has the right idea by letting market forces do their magic. Get rid of Amtrak subsidies immediately. Then all of those Chestnut Hill posers will no longer be able to afford to ride the Chestnut Hill Local to work. They will then have to ride real SEPTA with the salt of the earth, increasing SEPTA's ridership and revenue. For those who cannot afford SEPTA at all, they will move to other areas of our great nation where the cost of living is more affordable. This kind of ebb and flow of populations is what keeps centers of living dynamic, vital, and exciting. Free markets are the foundation of a nation's healthy homeostasis. Ciao, Craig PS:Turgid enough for you, Rosso?
Re: [UC] Fox Non-News
I can't resist pointing out this irony. Below is a post by one of the Pro-HD who is upset at the injustice of Fox 'News' and the Zoning Board for delays that left her friend looking bad. Try to forget that delays may have been due to resolving the fears of neighbors who might have been worried that condominiumizing a vacant Post Office might lead to problems associated with increased residential density (parking, garbage and trash disposal, night noise, prolonged construction, etc.) But, imagine compounding the friend's problems with HC commission review and ... Try to guess when the work would have begun. Personally, I believe her friend (any developer) has an obligation to keep the sidewalks swept and snow free and any flower boxes planted and windows clean and intact, while waiting for any delays to be resolved. Zoning disclosure is a condition of every sale in this State. Her friend knew (or should have known) the zoning before Settlement, in fact, before signing of the agreement. And, it is not fair for anyone to hold a neighborhood hostage, while gambling on zoning change. My experience is that the accusation of dead beat only kicks when developer's (like Rappaport) use the deteriorating conditions at the property to extort the concessions they want (whether for tax or zoning or HC waiver, etc.) from the neighbors and the city. So, while I don't know anything about this specific case, and maybe ED's friend was a peach who maintained decent oversight over this wannabee project, I suspect that Fox news got involved because neighbors were not happy, because sidewalks were not shoveled and litter was left unattended. ED, provide the address and we can check out actual conditions for ourselves. Liz On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:37:47 -0500 Dubin, Elisabeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did anyone happen to catch a segment on Fox News last night regarding a supposed dead-beat developer at 18th and Christian? It seems from what I've heard that the network reported the story without regard for the facts, and I'm upset by it and wish I could somehow see the TV segment. The gist of it is that a friend of mine has been struggling valiantly with the Zoning Board for almost a year to get the appropriate permits to redevelop a 20-year abandoned post office into condominiums, and the building has appeared to languish during this process. Meanwhile, Fox news reports that the developers abandoned the project and that it's now a public nuisance. The funny thing is that my friend finally did just get the zoning permit, so work will begin immediately. Anyway, I'm curious if anyone saw it or, even more unlikely, TIVO'd it? ELISABETH DUBIN Hillier ARCHITECTURE One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636- | F 215 636-9989 | hillier.com You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] FW: Free ride to Harrisburg Transit Funding Rally
If you really want the market to sort everything out, why not eliminate government support of SEPTA, the interstate highway system, the gas tax, subsidies for airports and air security, state highways, the air traffic control system, and so on? Oh, and sell those parking spaces in front of your house while you're at it too, especially the shoveled ones. If users of all transportation systems had to pay to run them, maybe we could see if there is a social benefit to public support. In a message dated 2/9/2005 6:53:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 2/9/2005 5:54:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: information regarding an important rally for mass transit in Harrisburg. What kind of a damned left wing kook are you? CINC Bush has the right idea by letting market forces do their magic. Get rid of Amtrak subsidies immediately. Then all of those Chestnut Hill posers will no longer be able to afford to ride the Chestnut Hill Local to work. They will then have to ride real SEPTA with the salt of the earth, increasing SEPTA's ridership and revenue. For those who cannot afford SEPTA at all, they will move to other areas of our great nation where the cost of living is more affordable. This kind of ebb and flow of populations is what keeps centers of living dynamic, vital, and exciting. Free markets are the foundation of a nation's healthy homeostasis. Ciao, Craig PS: Turgid enough for you, Rosso? You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] FW: Free ride to Harrisburg Transit Funding Rally - Redux
In a message dated 2/9/2005 7:34:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you really want the market to sort everything out, why not eliminate government support of SEPTA, the interstate highway system, the gas tax, subsidies for airports and air security, state highways, the air traffic control system, and so on? Oh, and sell those parking spaces in front of your house while you're at it too, especially the shoveled ones. If users of all transportation systems had to pay to run them, maybe we could see if there is a social benefit to public support. Well first, forgive me for postingmy priormockingobservation to the regular list, instead of to Culture. However, a lot of people whomight benefit from Culturedon't subscribe to it. Let me remind you, ourinterstate highway system was developed as an arterial system for the unfettered distribution of men of war and materiel. You civilians along with your nefarious agents: architects, landscape architects, and land planners developers really bastardized the system and gave us never ending urban sprawl. Second, ameliorating a disease process is of dubious beneficence, when you kill the host, our society. That is your plan above? To remake society so as to be recognizable by latter day Americans? Or, were you just playing Ali G without the humor. Ciao, Craig PS:How's the guitar playing?
Re: [UC] FW: Free ride to Harrisburg Transit Funding Rally - Errata
In a message dated 2/9/2005 8:27:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To remake society so as to be recognizable by latter day Americans? unrecognizable
RE: [UC] Fox Non-News
Ummm, well, no. That's not even close to the real situation. But A for effort, though! ELISABETH DUBIN Hillier ARCHITECTURE One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636- | F 215 636-9989 | hillier.com -Original Message- From: Elizabeth F. Campion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 7:22 PM To: Dubin, Elisabeth Cc: Univcity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Fox Non-News I can't resist pointing out this irony. Below is a post by one of the Pro-HD who is upset at the injustice of Fox 'News' and the Zoning Board for delays that left her friend looking bad. Try to forget that delays may have been due to resolving the fears of neighbors who might have been worried that condominiumizing a vacant Post Office might lead to problems associated with increased residential density (parking, garbage and trash disposal, night noise, prolonged construction, etc.) But, imagine compounding the friend's problems with HC commission review and ... Try to guess when the work would have begun. Personally, I believe her friend (any developer) has an obligation to keep the sidewalks swept and snow free and any flower boxes planted and windows clean and intact, while waiting for any delays to be resolved. Zoning disclosure is a condition of every sale in this State. Her friend knew (or should have known) the zoning before Settlement, in fact, before signing of the agreement. And, it is not fair for anyone to hold a neighborhood hostage, while gambling on zoning change. My experience is that the accusation of dead beat only kicks when developer's (like Rappaport) use the deteriorating conditions at the property to extort the concessions they want (whether for tax or zoning or HC waiver, etc.) from the neighbors and the city. So, while I don't know anything about this specific case, and maybe ED's friend was a peach who maintained decent oversight over this wannabee project, I suspect that Fox news got involved because neighbors were not happy, because sidewalks were not shoveled and litter was left unattended. ED, provide the address and we can check out actual conditions for ourselves. Liz On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:37:47 -0500 Dubin, Elisabeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did anyone happen to catch a segment on Fox News last night regarding a supposed dead-beat developer at 18th and Christian? It seems from what I've heard that the network reported the story without regard for the facts, and I'm upset by it and wish I could somehow see the TV segment. The gist of it is that a friend of mine has been struggling valiantly with the Zoning Board for almost a year to get the appropriate permits to redevelop a 20-year abandoned post office into condominiums, and the building has appeared to languish during this process. Meanwhile, Fox news reports that the developers abandoned the project and that it's now a public nuisance. The funny thing is that my friend finally did just get the zoning permit, so work will begin immediately. Anyway, I'm curious if anyone saw it or, even more unlikely, TIVO'd it? ELISABETH DUBIN Hillier ARCHITECTURE One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636- | F 215 636-9989 | hillier.com You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Re: New bowling alley
At 08:26 PM 2/9/2005, Kerry Dunn wrote: But what about the people who were striking? I think the issue was the bowling alley not using union labor to rennovate the building. Anyone know more about this? kerry Reason for strike: According to Strikes co-owner Scott Caplan, the Millwrights picketed Strikes because AMF Bowling Worldwide, Inc. -- the company that sells bowling lanes -- hired licensed workers to construct the bowling alley instead of hiring union employees And the striking is over... See article below. http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/41f9f57aeb38f?in_archive=1 -Ben You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Fox Non-News
In a message dated 2/9/2005 8:41:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ummm, well, no. That's not even close to the real situation. But"A" for effort, though! Let's not be dismissive. What are the facts? Or, is Cass now engaged in managing your PR? Ciao, Craig
RE: [UC] Fox Non-News
Liz - There is no irony here. At all. Let's try to understand a few things here: 1. The zoning board in Philadelphia is NOTORIOUSLY political in its decision-making. 2. Nearly any development will need a variance of some sort from the zoning board. Due to lack of design review for most construction, the zoning board acts as a de facto design review board, inappropriately. 3. Historic designation has absolutely nothing to do with this. As far as 1 and 2, this is an issue with all new development in Philadelphia, and has been a prominant topic of discussion at ULI (Urban Land Institute) events. It is a known problem, and I think that the City is aware of it, and is now trying to rectify it. Do you have any idea of how long Toll has had the Naval Home? Do you think that they wanted to be sitting on the property while waiting for permits, wasting a pile of money on interest? No, of course not. Developers like to get their permits, get the project done, and move on, and Philadelphia is not well geared to accommodate that. As for 3, I am not getting into that. Read your ordinance, look at the NPS website. Finally, Liz, you should be nicer. You know nothing at all about this developer, and yet you make all of these horrible accusations about him, assuming the absolute worst. I do happen to know him, and am offended by your rude, inconsiderate and uninformed accusations. Elisabeth wrote that message for information, not in an attempt to provoke your tirade against her friend. Christine -Original Message- From: Elizabeth F. Campion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 2/9/2005 7:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Univcity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Fox Non-News I can't resist pointing out this irony. Below is a post by one of the Pro-HD who is upset at the injustice of Fox 'News' and the Zoning Board for delays that left her friend looking bad. Try to forget that delays may have been due to resolving the fears of neighbors who might have been worried that condominiumizing a vacant Post Office might lead to problems associated with increased residential density (parking, garbage and trash disposal, night noise, prolonged construction, etc.) But, imagine compounding the friend's problems with HC commission review and ... Try to guess when the work would have begun. Personally, I believe her friend (any developer) has an obligation to keep the sidewalks swept and snow free and any flower boxes planted and windows clean and intact, while waiting for any delays to be resolved. Zoning disclosure is a condition of every sale in this State. Her friend knew (or should have known) the zoning before Settlement, in fact, before signing of the agreement. And, it is not fair for anyone to hold a neighborhood hostage, while gambling on zoning change. My experience is that the accusation of dead beat only kicks when developer's (like Rappaport) use the deteriorating conditions at the property to extort the concessions they want (whether for tax or zoning or HC waiver, etc.) from the neighbors and the city. So, while I don't know anything about this specific case, and maybe ED's friend was a peach who maintained decent oversight over this wannabee project, I suspect that Fox news got involved because neighbors were not happy, because sidewalks were not shoveled and litter was left unattended. ED, provide the address and we can check out actual conditions for ourselves. Liz On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:37:47 -0500 Dubin, Elisabeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did anyone happen to catch a segment on Fox News last night regarding a supposed dead-beat developer at 18th and Christian? It seems from what I've heard that the network reported the story without regard for the facts, and I'm upset by it and wish I could somehow see the TV segment. The gist of it is that a friend of mine has been struggling valiantly with the Zoning Board for almost a year to get the appropriate permits to redevelop a 20-year abandoned post office into condominiums, and the building has appeared to languish during this process. Meanwhile, Fox news reports that the developers abandoned the project and that it's now a public nuisance. The funny thing is that my friend finally did just get the zoning permit, so work will begin immediately. Anyway, I'm curious if anyone saw it
[UC] Bike Safety
I saw a young girl break her hand tonight on my ride home from class. If you are riding a bike in the bike lane, ride as close to the traffic as possible. I know this is counter intuitive, but it is exponentially safer than riding near the parked cars. If cars honk at you, ignore them. They are simply ignorant drivers, and it has nothing to do with you. People driving have more of an opportunity to see you, and people who are parked have a better chance of seeing you also. This isn't a car vs. bike posting, and I know this topic has been covered before, but a broken hand is a chilling sight. Ride defensively people. :Pete You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Fox Non-News
Christine: Sorry, but zoning delays that last for almost a year are not S.O.P. Either neighborhood questions had to be on the table or the friend was slow to develop a plan. Something called Fox News to the property and it was not my horrible accusations. I found lots of irony in ED posting about this problem. I am sorry it was lost on you. I have attended several hearings each before the Zoning Board and before the Historic Commission, and if you think that The zoning board in Philadelphia is NOTORIOUSLY political in its decision-making. Than I can only guess at the capitalization needed to more extremely define the political nature of the Historic Commission process. My tone was forthright, and my guesses, defined as such, are informed by the problems I encounter on a regular basis, in the course of helping clients buy, sell, renovate and manage properties. Your post is the one with glaring defects. You try to put words in my mouth. You miss the words I did write. And you know nothing of my knowledge about the Naval Home Developement, and guessed wrong. As it happens, I own a property at the edge of the boundaries. I get (and read) the Councilmanic Postings. I belong to CCRA. I have attended several community meetings and Realtor focus groups on the developement. You found my posting not nice. Be aware, that I consider the Pro-HDs not nice. They are trying to institute programs which unreasonably (and without compensation) take away property rights that I (and my neighbors) already hold. So I react, in defense (not aggression), when the opportunity presents itself to say... Enforce zoning and enforce existing building codes, but don't layer additional and unreasonable limits, fees and regulations on my home ownership or that of my neighbors, for the badly regulated and solely aesthetic pleasure of the pro Historic busy bodies. Liz On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 23:30:59 -0500 Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Liz - There is no irony here. At all. Let's try to understand a few things here: 1. The zoning board in Philadelphia is NOTORIOUSLY political in its decision-making. 2. Nearly any development will need a variance of some sort from the zoning board. Due to lack of design review for most construction, the zoning board acts as a de facto design review board, inappropriately. 3. Historic designation has absolutely nothing to do with this. As far as 1 and 2, this is an issue with all new development in Philadelphia, and has been a prominant topic of discussion at ULI (Urban Land Institute) events. It is a known problem, and I think that the City is aware of it, and is now trying to rectify it. Do you have any idea of how long Toll has had the Naval Home? Do you think that they wanted to be sitting on the property while waiting for permits, wasting a pile of money on interest? No, of course not. Developers like to get their permits, get the project done, and move on, and Philadelphia is not well geared to accommodate that. As for 3, I am not getting into that. Read your ordinance, look at the NPS website. Finally, Liz, you should be nicer. You know nothing at all about this developer, and yet you make all of these horrible accusations about him, assuming the absolute worst. I do happen to know him, and am offended by your rude, inconsiderate and uninformed accusations. Elisabeth wrote that message for information, not in an attempt to provoke your tirade against her friend. Christine You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
