[UC] Attic exhaust fan recommendation

2007-07-23 Thread Marielena Mata
I searched the archive for a recommendation for somebody to install an attic 
exhaust fan and all I could find was an unanswered request by Kyle earlier 
this year.
So,  does anyone have an electrician or another contractor willing to 
install an attic fan?


Thanks,

Maty



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Re: [UC] tailor for alterations?

2007-07-23 Thread Margie Politzer
Sun Cleaners on 47th St. between Baltimore and Cedar did an excellent job
for me on a silk dress.

Margie

 hi. a west philly friend needs a tailor to alter a dress. The archives showed
 me to posts that were from 2004 and 2005. The suggestion there was White
 Seal,south side ofBaltimore just west of 49th. Is that still the consensus, or
 are there other tailors she should approach?
 Thanks.
 Naomi [Segal]
 
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[UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park

2007-07-23 Thread Kyle Cassidy
Ross pretty much had it down in his review.

I was photo-documenting the whole thing for those of you affeared of
traveling SOBA after dark and after I'd taken about ... six photos a
woman in a yellow Philadelphia Orchestra t-shirt came over to me and
told me that photographs of the orchestra cannot appear on a website
(I kid you not) -- which I took for a moment to be some sort of vampire
thing -- like, they just wouldn't show up on film so I was wasting my
time pressing the shutter button, but then I realized she meant that she
was telling me I wasn't _allowed_ to show anybody photographs of the
orchestra -- which surprised me, it being a public event, outdoors, to
which the media had been invited. But, nonetheless, I have adhered to
her request as best I can. And now provide the weak and infirm on this
list the virtual Orchestra in Clark Park experience:

The crowd pretty much filled the bowl. We could have ended west philly
gentrification in one fell swoop by opening up a few cans of mustard gas
down there. There were so many fancy folding chairs and enviornmentally
sound biodegradable snack-food wrappers being thoughtfully packed out in
trendy picnic baskets made of recycled soda bottles I thought Dennis
Kucinich was going to show up handing out vegan hot dogs:

http://www.kylecassidy.com/temp/orchestra1.jpg


The view to the stage:

http://www.kylecassidy.com/temp/orchestra2.jpg


The conductor, who may or may not be Rossen Milanov, worked it for all
he was worth:

http://www.kylecassidy.com/temp/orchestra3.jpg


And attracted some auxiliary conductors who had more energy and an
amazing attention span:

http://www.kylecassidy.com/temp/orchestra4.jpg


Much of the performance was more of a Symphony for Orchestra, Crying
Babies, and Drum Circle. One highlight of the evening was when the
general din was agumented by a helecopter circling overhead during
Bolero. I thought it was news people, but upon closer inspection it
turned out to be philly PD snipers taking out a couple of off-leash
dogs:

http://www.kylecassidy.com/temp/orchestra5.jpg


There you have it. Just like you were there.


Hopefully shakespeare's estate will allow photography during Romeo and
Juliet when it plays in the park.

kc


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[UC] House breakin on 4600 Block of Osage Avenue

2007-07-23 Thread Leila Graham-Willis

Received from a neighbor yesterday. (I removed the neighbors' names).
Leila
 
This evening, Sunday July 22, sometime between 6:00 and 8:00 pm, our neighbors 
 and  had their house burglarized. The burglars got entry by poking 
finger sized holes in the locked screen of the open first floor window that 
faces Osage Avenue. Once in, they took several valuable electronic items but 
left other things untouched.   This sounds vey much like what happened a few 
weeks ago to a couple on the 4700 block of Osage -- entry through a front 
window screen, took mostly electronic things -- and in daylight no less. 
It's so, so frustrating and upsetting when things like this happen. Please be 
cautious and use your alarms and locks...
 
 
_
Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary!  
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[UC] Univ. Arts League Session Starts!

2007-07-23 Thread Ann Kreidle

*Hey Everyone!
It’s a Midsummer’s Dream come true!! University City Arts League’s 
Second Summer Sizzler starts this week; July 22 – August 18. All of our 
usual arts, dance, pottery and crafts classes are offered along with new 
ones such as mosaics, teen photo, pilates and much, much more. Classes 
for kids teens and adults. For this semester ONLY we have flexible sign 
up. If you can only do 2 of the 4 weeks you can sign up for that! Check 
out our website, (link below), for details /or pick up a catalog from 
off our porch.


Here’s your chance for a do-over. Get Fit, Get Fun for Summer!
Please pass this on to friends and check out our website at 
http://www.ucartsleague.org http://www.ucartsleague.org/


or myspace page
http://www.myspace.com/ucartsleague

HAVE A SIZZLIN’ SUMMER EVERYONE!!*

*-- 


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Re: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park

2007-07-23 Thread Shawn Medero

On 7/23/07, Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Much of the performance was more of a Symphony for Orchestra, Crying
Babies, and Drum Circle. One highlight of the evening was when the
general din was agumented by a helecopter circling overhead during
Bolero. I thought it was news people, but upon closer inspection it
turned out to be philly PD snipers taking out a couple of off-leash
dogs:

http://www.kylecassidy.com/temp/orchestra5.jpg


Since so many of the people there appeared to be not from West
Philadelphia at all... I thought it was fitting that they were able to
experience the nightly occurrence of the Philadelphia Police
Helicopter demonstration. (Though it was still light out and they were
unable to witness the precision illumination demo.)



Also a huge WTF to not being able to post pictures on a website. For
the record you could have posted the pictures as-is... you provided a
URL to an image resource over an email list... but you didn't create a
special HTML page for demonstrating the pictures or upload them to
Flickr/MySpace/etc. (A domain name hosting multiple image resources
hardly seems like it constitutes a website.)

-s

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RE: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park

2007-07-23 Thread Kyle Cassidy

I'm not a lawyer, but I suspect that those on the list would have given
a hearty ho ho ho if told they couldn't take pictures of a newsworthy
event in public and might even cite Showler v. Harper's Magazine
Foundation. 

I might take to wearing a sign in public that says Images of me may not
appear on websites.

kc

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Medero

Also a huge WTF to not being able to post pictures on a website. For
the record you 
could have posted the pictures as-is... you provided a URL to an image
resource over 
an email list... but you didn't create a special HTML page for
demonstrating the pictures 
or upload them to Flickr/MySpace/etc. (A domain name hosting multiple
image resources 
hardly seems like it constitutes a website.)


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Re: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park

2007-07-23 Thread Shawn Medero

On 7/23/07, Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I might take to wearing a sign in public that says Images of me may not
appear on websites.


I've wanted to make a shirt that had some catchy internet meme on it
like IM IN UR PHOTOZ STEALIN UR MEMORIEZ and then spend my weekends
at popular tourist destinations. Every time I think to pull out the
old iron-on t-shirt transfer kit another leak appears in my bedroom
and my nearly one year old son throws his food at me.

-s

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Re: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park

2007-07-23 Thread B Andersen

There is no reason i know of that you can't have taken photos of the
orchestra. I think you should post them to wikipedia and this page in
particular:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Orchestra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rossen_Milanov


On 7/23/07, Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ross pretty much had it down in his review.

I was photo-documenting the whole thing for those of you affeared of
traveling SOBA after dark and after I'd taken about ... six photos a
woman in a yellow Philadelphia Orchestra t-shirt came over to me and
told me that photographs of the orchestra cannot appear on a website
(I kid you not) -- which I took for a moment to be some sort of vampire
thing -- like, they just wouldn't show up on film so I was wasting my
time pressing the shutter button, but then I realized she meant that she
was telling me I wasn't _allowed_ to show anybody photographs of the
orchestra -- which surprised me, it being a public event, outdoors, to
which the media had been invited. But, nonetheless, I have adhered to
her request as best I can. And now provide the weak and infirm on this
list the virtual Orchestra in Clark Park experience:

The crowd pretty much filled the bowl. We could have ended west philly
gentrification in one fell swoop by opening up a few cans of mustard gas
down there. There were so many fancy folding chairs and enviornmentally
sound biodegradable snack-food wrappers being thoughtfully packed out in
trendy picnic baskets made of recycled soda bottles I thought Dennis
Kucinich was going to show up handing out vegan hot dogs:

http://www.kylecassidy.com/temp/orchestra1.jpg


The view to the stage:

http://www.kylecassidy.com/temp/orchestra2.jpg


The conductor, who may or may not be Rossen Milanov, worked it for all
he was worth:

http://www.kylecassidy.com/temp/orchestra3.jpg


And attracted some auxiliary conductors who had more energy and an
amazing attention span:

http://www.kylecassidy.com/temp/orchestra4.jpg


Much of the performance was more of a Symphony for Orchestra, Crying
Babies, and Drum Circle. One highlight of the evening was when the
general din was agumented by a helecopter circling overhead during
Bolero. I thought it was news people, but upon closer inspection it
turned out to be philly PD snipers taking out a couple of off-leash
dogs:

http://www.kylecassidy.com/temp/orchestra5.jpg


There you have it. Just like you were there.


Hopefully shakespeare's estate will allow photography during Romeo and
Juliet when it plays in the park.

kc


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Re: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park

2007-07-23 Thread Brian Siano

Kyle Cassidy wrote:

Ross pretty much had it down in his review.

I was photo-documenting the whole thing for those of you affeared of
traveling SOBA after dark and after I'd taken about ... six photos a
woman in a yellow Philadelphia Orchestra t-shirt came over to me and
told me that photographs of the orchestra cannot appear on a website
(I kid you not) -- which I took for a moment to be some sort of vampire
thing -- like, they just wouldn't show up on film so I was wasting my
time pressing the shutter button, but then I realized she meant that she
was telling me I wasn't _allowed_ to show anybody photographs of the
orchestra -- which surprised me, it being a public event, outdoors, to
which the media had been invited. 
I ran into this same person while running around the park myself. She 
asked me if the photos were for a commercial purpose. I just shrugged 
and said Dunno. I moved on, she follows me and asks me something I 
didn't quite catch, so I said, Look, I'm with the friends of Clark 
Park, it's for our newsletter.


Why didn't you answer my question then?

I didn't think it was worth answering.

Anyway, two of the photos are on the FoCP website, 
http://www.clarkpark.info. I'm rejiggifigorifying the website, so maybe 
more shall appear.


Oh, and the Dickens people ought to check it out, too.


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[UC] Re: plastic bag recycling redux thinking greener

2007-07-23 Thread Cheryl Shipman

At 07:17 PM 7/14/2007 -0400, Linda Lee wrote:


And, while we're at it, I'd also recommend taking your own doggy bag 
container with you to the restaurants, as opposed to brining home 
leftovers in UNrecyclable styrofoam.


-linda




I take my reusable container to Kim's chinese food truck (on the food 
court plaza between 37th and 38th and Walnut and Sansom. ) The order 
lady had no problem with my request.  I think most food trucks would be ok.


Cheryl Shipman




Re: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park

2007-07-23 Thread David Toccafondi

Kyle, that's freaking crazy and the Philadelphia Orchestra should be
ashamed!  If someone came up to me and told me that, I can promise you those
photos would be on every website I could get access to.  There is no legal
reason preventing you from putting those photos online.  Nobody there had
anything remotely close to a reasonable expectation of privacy, the photos
are not portraying anyone in a false or even a negative light, and you're
not using them to promote a product.  If you don't want to risk posting the
un-censored photos, I'll be more than glad to put them on my website for you
so u can link to them.

dave


On 7/23/07, Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ross pretty much had it down in his review.

I was photo-documenting the whole thing for those of you affeared of
traveling SOBA after dark and after I'd taken about ... six photos a
woman in a yellow Philadelphia Orchestra t-shirt came over to me and
told me that photographs of the orchestra cannot appear on a website
(I kid you not) -- which I took for a moment to be some sort of vampire
thing -- like, they just wouldn't show up on film so I was wasting my
time pressing the shutter button, but then I realized she meant that she
was telling me I wasn't _allowed_ to show anybody photographs of the
orchestra -- which surprised me, it being a public event, outdoors, to
which the media had been invited. But, nonetheless, I have adhered to
her request as best I can.



RE: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park

2007-07-23 Thread Kyle Cassidy
i'm not worried about getting sued -- i just thought it would be funnier
to scratch out their faces. I'm kind of turned off to the orchestra
after this silliness.

I wonder if they wear Mexican wrestling masks when they go to the
grocery store to preserve their anonymity.





From: David Toccafondi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 6:06 PM
To: Kyle Cassidy
Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park



Kyle, that's freaking crazy and the Philadelphia Orchestra should be
ashamed!  If someone came up to me and told me that, I can promise you
those photos would be on every website I could get access to.  There is
no legal reason preventing you from putting those photos online.  Nobody
there had anything remotely close to a reasonable expectation of
privacy, the photos are not portraying anyone in a false or even a
negative light, and you're not using them to promote a product.  If you
don't want to risk posting the un-censored photos, I'll be more than
glad to put them on my website for you so u can link to them.

dave



On 7/23/07, Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ross pretty much had it down in his review.
   
I was photo-documenting the whole thing for those of you
affeared of
traveling SOBA after dark and after I'd taken about ... six
photos a
woman in a yellow Philadelphia Orchestra t-shirt came over to
me and
told me that photographs of the orchestra cannot appear on a
website
(I kid you not) -- which I took for a moment to be some sort of
vampire
thing -- like, they just wouldn't show up on film so I was
wasting my
time pressing the shutter button, but then I realized she meant
that she
was telling me I wasn't _allowed_ to show anybody photographs of
the
orchestra -- which surprised me, it being a public event,
outdoors, to
which the media had been invited. But, nonetheless, I have
adhered to
her request as best I can.
   






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Re: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park

2007-07-23 Thread Krfapt
 
In a message dated 7/23/2007 6:08:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

the  Philadelphia Orchestra should be ashamed


The orchestra and its second-string (good enough for the bumpkins)  conductor 
only got $80,000 to oom-pah in the specially-seeded Clark  Park bowl. So they 
obviously made a big sacrifice to grace our little  community and should at 
least have exclusive rights to audio and visual  records of their having been 
there.
 
After all, if you were the great Philadelphia Orchestra -- and had to  stoop 
to come to a place where there might be mosquitos, screaming  children, 
Neanderthals who wouldn't know Buxtehude from Albinoni, unleashed dogs  (some 
of 
them mongrel), anarchists, greedy slumlords, lawyers, the  anointed, the 
benighted, and others too depraved to even think  about -- for a measly 
$80,000, 
wouldn't you want to be sure that any  and all documentation of the 
embarrassment 
was in your hands so it could  be suppressed too?  

Al  Krigman
Left of Richard Wagner




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Re: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park

2007-07-23 Thread Elizabeth F Campion

First - communication under circumstances such as pre- or mid-concert
could be easily garbled.

Second - seeing brilliant photos altered to make everyone look like a
new, long-life, replacement bulb was cool.
So there was a happy consequence to the perception / response to the
request.

Third - why is it never enough?
I feel gifted with the sound and sight and convenience of having the
Orchestra play close to home.
Do we demand more?
Souvenirs? autographs? photos?

I am now in the awkward position of being grateful to the Orchestra, the
Sponsors and the crowd, and desirous of seeing their wishes honored,
while also feeling grateful to Kyle, who shared some fun and fabulous
photos (and made me long to see the before and after alteration versions)
even though he may be defying or taunting the very organization that made
Saturday night so sublime.

Maybe since we are a List and not a Web-site the request does not
apply.

Living is complicated.

Best!
Liz

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:05:37 -0400 David Toccafondi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Kyle, that's freaking crazy and the Philadelphia Orchestra should be
ashamed!  If someone came up to me and told me that, I can promise you
those photos would be on every website I could get access to.  There is
no legal reason preventing you from putting those photos online.  Nobody
there had anything remotely close to a reasonable expectation of privacy,
the photos are not portraying anyone in a false or even a negative light,
and you're not using them to promote a product.  If you don't want to
risk posting the un-censored photos, I'll be more than glad to put them
on my website for you so u can link to them. 

dave



On 7/23/07, Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ross pretty much had it down in his review.

I was photo-documenting the whole thing for those of you affeared of
traveling SOBA after dark and after I'd taken about ... six photos a
woman in a yellow Philadelphia Orchestra t-shirt came over to me and 
told me that photographs of the orchestra cannot appear on a website
(I kid you not) -- which I took for a moment to be some sort of vampire
thing -- like, they just wouldn't show up on film so I was wasting my 
time pressing the shutter button, but then I realized she meant that she
was telling me I wasn't _allowed_ to show anybody photographs of the
orchestra -- which surprised me, it being a public event, outdoors, to 
which the media had been invited. But, nonetheless, I have adhered to
her request as best I can.





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RE: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park

2007-07-23 Thread Kyle Cassidy
They probably were roundly embarrassed by our knuckle-dragging behavior
-- the audience persistently applauded between movements (and sometimes
whenever it got quiet in the middle of a piece) and mistook America the
Beautiful for the National Anthem and leapt to their feet. But such
a reception serves them right! I would have chased them back to the
academy myself but there were a bunch of muggers already in pursuit --
drooling about all those fancy Peccatte violin bows they could pawn for
new clothes at the Second Mile.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 7/23/2007 6:08:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

the Philadelphia Orchestra should be ashamed

The orchestra and its second-string (good enough for the bumpkins)
conductor only got $80,000 to oom-pah in the specially-seeded Clark Park
bowl. So they obviously made a big sacrifice to grace our little
community and should at least have exclusive rights to audio and visual
records of their having been there.
 
After all, if you were the great Philadelphia Orchestra -- and had to
stoop to come to a place where there might be mosquitos, screaming
children, Neanderthals who wouldn't know Buxtehude from Albinoni,
unleashed dogs (some of them mongrel), anarchists, greedy slumlords,
lawyers, the anointed, the benighted, and others too depraved to even
think about -- for a measly $80,000, wouldn't you want to be sure that
any and all documentation of the embarrassment was in your hands so it
could be suppressed too? 


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RE: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park

2007-07-23 Thread Turner,Kathleen
I suspect that if you look at the program from any performance of the 
Philadelphia Orchestra, there will be a statement to the effect that all 
recording and photography rights are reserved -- just as they are when you go 
to nearly any concert, I don't care whether it's the Rolling Stones or Raffi.  
The fact that the concert was free and in a public place doesn't override their 
right to control publication of photographs of the orchestra - and posting of 
photographs on a web site does constitute publication.
 
Frankly, I'm quite surprised that people find this so surprising!
 
Kathleen



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 7/23/2007 6:29 PM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park


In a message dated 7/23/2007 6:08:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:

the Philadelphia Orchestra should be ashamed

The orchestra and its second-string (good enough for the bumpkins) conductor 
only got $80,000 to oom-pah in the specially-seeded Clark Park bowl. So they 
obviously made a big sacrifice to grace our little community and should at 
least have exclusive rights to audio and visual records of their having been 
there.
 
After all, if you were the great Philadelphia Orchestra -- and had to stoop to 
come to a place where there might be mosquitos, screaming children, 
Neanderthals who wouldn't know Buxtehude from Albinoni, unleashed dogs (some of 
them mongrel), anarchists, greedy slumlords, lawyers, the anointed, the 
benighted, and others too depraved to even think about -- for a measly $80,000, 
wouldn't you want to be sure that any and all documentation of the 
embarrassment was in your hands so it could be suppressed too? 
 
Al Krigman
Left of Richard Wagner





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Re: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park

2007-07-23 Thread Philip Forrest
The attempt at control of media recording the activities of the symphony is 
probably due also to the very stringent guidelines of the performers' union.  
Usually, only very official photos of the performers are allowed to be 
published.  They must be doing just their job and nothing more.  No nose 
picking, no looking at the audience, no talking, etc.  they can lose their 
jobs for being photographed doing something other than playing or keeping up 
with their music between times when they have to play.
Perhaps this was just an attempt at courtesy for the benefit of the musicians.

PhilFo



On Monday 23 July 2007 18:41, Turner,Kathleen wrote:
 I suspect that if you look at the program from any performance of the
 Philadelphia Orchestra, there will be a statement to the effect that all
 recording and photography rights are reserved -- just as they are when you
 go to nearly any concert, I don't care whether it's the Rolling Stones or
 Raffi.  The fact that the concert was free and in a public place doesn't
 override their right to control publication of photographs of the orchestra
 - and posting of photographs on a web site does constitute publication.

 Frankly, I'm quite surprised that people find this so surprising!

 Kathleen

 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Mon 7/23/2007 6:29 PM
 To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
 Subject: Re: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park


 In a message dated 7/23/2007 6:08:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   the Philadelphia Orchestra should be ashamed

 The orchestra and its second-string (good enough for the bumpkins)
 conductor only got $80,000 to oom-pah in the specially-seeded Clark Park
 bowl. So they obviously made a big sacrifice to grace our little community
 and should at least have exclusive rights to audio and visual records of
 their having been there.

 After all, if you were the great Philadelphia Orchestra -- and had to stoop
 to come to a place where there might be mosquitos, screaming children,
 Neanderthals who wouldn't know Buxtehude from Albinoni, unleashed dogs
 (some of them mongrel), anarchists, greedy slumlords, lawyers, the
 anointed, the benighted, and others too depraved to even think about -- for
 a measly $80,000, wouldn't you want to be sure that any and all
 documentation of the embarrassment was in your hands so it could be
 suppressed too?

 Al Krigman
 Left of Richard Wagner



 

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RE: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park

2007-07-23 Thread Kyle Cassidy

I suspect that if you look at the program from any performance of the
Philadelphia Orchestra, 
there will be a statement to the effect that all recording and
photography rights are 
reserved -- just as they are when you go to nearly any concert, I don't
care whether it's the 
Rolling Stones or Raffi.  The fact that the concert was free and in a
public place doesn't 
override their right to control publication of photographs of the
orchestra - and posting of 
photographs on a web site does constitute publication.
 
Frankly, I'm quite surprised that people find this so surprising!
 
I'm not a lawyer, but I'll cite this USA today guide on the legal rights
of photographers found here
(http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/andrewkantor/2006-08-11-photogra
phy-rights_x.htm) oft cited by the National Press Photographers
Associtation -- some highlights of which are:

The bottom line
Except in special circumstances (e.g., certain government facilities),
there are no laws prohibiting the taking of photographs on public or
private property. If you can be there, you can take pictures there:
streets, malls, parking lots, office buildings. You do not need
permission to do so, even on private property. [...] Subject to specific
limits, photographers can publish any photos they take, provided those
photos do not violate the privacy of the subject. This includes photos
taken while trespassing or otherwise being someplace they shouldn't be.
Taking photos and publishing photos are two separate issues.

[...] 

Whether we can take a photograph is determined by whether the subject
has a reasonable expectation of privacy
or seclusion. If not - if he's visible to the public (even on private
property) - photography is legal.
The logic is simple: If you can see it, you can photograph it. If it
requires extraordinary means to see (e.g., using a
telephoto lens, or trespassing on property not open to the public such
as a private office), then you may not be
able to photograph it legally.

[...]

Photographs taken in public places generally are not actionable. Photos
of crimes, arrests and accidents
usually are considered newsworthy and immune from privacy claims.

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Re: [UC] Photos from the orchestra in the park

2007-07-23 Thread David Toccafondi

Kathleen, in America we have the right to take photos of pretty much
whatever we want without permission--people, pets, small children,
orchestras, bridges, shopping malls, houses, art museums, public property,
private property, government buildings, etc. *Very* few photographs are
actually illegal to take.  Similarly, we have a right to publish most
photos without permission.  There are exceptions to these rules:  We can't
invade somebody's right to privacy (which is seldom an issue in a public
park).  We can't portray them in a false light.  And we can't use
photographs of people to sell a product, etc. without their permission and
usually some form of payment.  (although we can sell the photos themselves
without permission in most cases).

The Philadelphia Orchestra cannot simply declare that they constitute an
exception to the law and that we aren't allowed to take or display photos of
them on websites.   Not only would I be allowed to publish a photo taken of
them in a public park, I would most likely be within my legal rights to
publish a photo i'd taken of them inside the Academy of Music.  What
frightens me is the number of people that believe otherwise, in this case
simply because some woman in a yellow t-shirt told them so.


dave


On 7/23/07, Turner,Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I suspect that if you look at the program from any performance of the
Philadelphia Orchestra, there will be a statement to the effect that all
recording and photography rights are reserved -- just as they are when you
go to nearly any concert, I don't care whether it's the Rolling Stones or
Raffi.  The fact that the concert was free and in a public place doesn't
override their right to control publication of photographs of the orchestra
- and posting of photographs on a web site does constitute publication.

Frankly, I'm quite surprised that people find this so surprising!

Kathleen




[UC] not true public

2007-07-23 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
the latest issue of penn's alumni magazine (the pennsylvania 
gazette) has a fascinating cover story on laurie olin, 
penn's renowned landscape architect, and the field of 
landscape architecture -- its place in the public sphere.


olin's projects over the years include the barcelona olympic 
village, los angeles' getty center, penn's college green, 
manhattan's bryant park, and philly's independence mall. his 
latest project, his most ambitious and in partnership with 
frank gehry, is to transform 22 acres in brooklyn into a 
mixed use development called atlantic yards, a controversial 
project that would make it 'twice as dense as the most 
crowded census tract in the country' and which is strongly 
opposed by 'half the leading lights in brooklyn' who see it 
as a 'creeping corporate usurpation of the public realm.'


the article goes on to describe the increasingly 
sociological approach to landscape architecture, and how 
that entails growing tensions between the needs of the 
public and the vision of the designer, between elected 
municipalities and corporations, between process and outcomes...


and then I read this passage, which I thought captured what 
so many of us have been talking about wrt ucd, ucd's nid, 
clark park, the vision of the anointed, citizenship as 
consumerism, etc.:





[Olin:] Part of our social obligation is to make places that are
safe and supportive of human activity, and in many cases
are background for other things. Sometimes the people
should be the flowers.

There is no better example of this essentially
sociological approach to design than the renewal of
Bryant Park. Situated in midtown Manhattan behind the New
York Public Library, the four-block courtyard had by 1980
become a crime-ridden vortex of urban abandonment
popularly known as Needle Park.

It was dangerous, Olin remembers. It was run-down.
People weren't putting money into it. People were afraid
to go into it. It was deteriorating. People were killed
there.

It is not often that society turns to a landscape
architect in hopes of preventing the murder of its
citizens, but Hanna/Olin's final design helped to turn
one of the city's most frightening places into one of the
safest and most popular. Their approach struck some as
paradoxical. By stripping away the barriers that
protected the park from the bustle of traffic on its
edges, they aimed to turn what had been conceived as a
peaceful respite from urban life into a busy focal point
of it. Forsaking grand gestures and concentrating instead
on tiny details like balustrades and folding chairs, they
refashioned Bryant Park stitch by stitch.

At first glance, the park looks almost the same, just a
cleaner, fresher version of the old, architecture critic
Paul Goldberger wrote in The New York Times. But the
cumulative effect of small changes is to render it a
dramatically different place, vastly more open than
before, more tied to the street and the city around it.

Here there was another level of paradox, for Hanna/Olin's
success in restoring the urban qualities of Bryant Park
stemmed from the partial commercialization of what had
previously been purely public space. The redevelopment
had been underwritten by the privately funded Bryant Park
Restoration Corporation, one of the first examples of
what are now commonly known as Business Improvement
Districts. By effectively taking over the municipal
government's responsibility for managing the park, the
BPRC won the privilege to use it as a venue for
entertainment programming, restaurant concessions, and
the like. Hanna/Olin's disciplined design was a critical
piece of this new vision.

In a sense, it tells you that it's controlled, that it's
not 'true public,' says George Thomas. It's sort of
like a mall, or the mall as a public space but under
private control. And as a result, people are expected to
behave in a certain way. You could almost make the case
that Bryant Park is a highly corporatized landscape, and
in its lack of freedom it tells you what it expects of
you.





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Re: [UC] human resources

2007-07-23 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By the way, one of the complaints was that it took them too long and 
we weren't continually updated.  In response, you've been organizing a 
task force, but it's been weeks already, and we haven't had updates 
for days, and it doesn't seem to have even finished establishing what 
it wants to do!  The list didn't give the UCD the benefit of the doubt 
when it took them some time to work their way through their 
responsibilities with John - what if the same complaints were being 
leveled at the task force?  Wouldn't that be fair?




UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:
I'm pretty sure it was announced here that there's a committee meeting 
tonight. tony west is chairing it, I believe.




any minutes or notes from last week's meeting?



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RE: [UC] human resources

2007-07-23 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
Yes Ray...still working on minutes..

Will post soon.

Bigger fish to fry!

:-)

S

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Subject: Re: [UC] human resources

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 By the way, one of the complaints was that it took them too long and 
 we weren't continually updated.  In response, you've been organizing
a 
 task force, but it's been weeks already, and we haven't had updates 
 for days, and it doesn't seem to have even finished establishing what

 it wants to do!  The list didn't give the UCD the benefit of the
doubt 
 when it took them some time to work their way through their 
 responsibilities with John - what if the same complaints were being 
 leveled at the task force?  Wouldn't that be fair?



UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:
 I'm pretty sure it was announced here that there's a committee meeting

 tonight. tony west is chairing it, I believe.



any minutes or notes from last week's meeting?



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Re: [UC] not true public

2007-07-23 Thread Anthony West

Fascinating, Ray. Truly thought-provoking. Thank you very much.

Fond though I am of park planning, and eager though I am to suck up to 
landscape architects in public if it'll shave 3% off their final bill 
... still I suspect one reason Needle Park is no longer a crime-ridden 
vortex is not because it has been renewed as Bryant Park, but 
because the entire island of Manhattan has been relentlessly gentrified 
by overwhelming market forces over the past 15 years, if I read 
correctly between the lines of my New Yorkers. So it may be a case of 
planning following, rather than preceding, demographic changes in the 
neighborhood. Still fasinating, though.


-- Tony West
the latest issue of penn's alumni magazine (the pennsylvania gazette) 
has a fascinating cover story on laurie olin, penn's renowned 
landscape architect, and the field of landscape architecture -- its 
place in the public sphere.


and then I read this passage, which I thought captured what so many of 
us have been talking about wrt ucd, ucd's nid, clark park, the vision 
of the anointed, citizenship as consumerism, etc.:



[Olin:] Part of our social obligation is to make places that are
safe and supportive of human activity, and in many cases
are background for other things. Sometimes the people
should be the flowers.

There is no better example of this essentially
sociological approach to design than the renewal of
Bryant Park. Situated in midtown Manhattan behind the New
York Public Library, the four-block courtyard had by 1980
become a crime-ridden vortex of urban abandonment
popularly known as Needle Park.

It was dangerous, Olin remembers. It was run-down.
People weren't putting money into it. People were afraid
to go into it. It was deteriorating. People were killed
there.

It is not often that society turns to a landscape
architect in hopes of preventing the murder of its
citizens, but Hanna/Olin's final design helped to turn
one of the city's most frightening places into one of the
safest and most popular. Their approach struck some as
paradoxical. By stripping away the barriers that
protected the park from the bustle of traffic on its
edges, they aimed to turn what had been conceived as a
peaceful respite from urban life into a busy focal point
of it. Forsaking grand gestures and concentrating instead
on tiny details like balustrades and folding chairs, they
refashioned Bryant Park stitch by stitch.

At first glance, the park looks almost the same, just a
cleaner, fresher version of the old, architecture critic
Paul Goldberger wrote in The New York Times. But the
cumulative effect of small changes is to render it a
dramatically different place, vastly more open than
before, more tied to the street and the city around it.

Here there was another level of paradox, for Hanna/Olin's
success in restoring the urban qualities of Bryant Park
stemmed from the partial commercialization of what had
previously been purely public space. The redevelopment
had been underwritten by the privately funded Bryant Park
Restoration Corporation, one of the first examples of
what are now commonly known as Business Improvement
Districts. By effectively taking over the municipal
government's responsibility for managing the park, the
BPRC won the privilege to use it as a venue for
entertainment programming, restaurant concessions, and
the like. Hanna/Olin's disciplined design was a critical
piece of this new vision.

In a sense, it tells you that it's controlled, that it's
not 'true public,' says George Thomas. It's sort of
like a mall, or the mall as a public space but under
private control. And as a result, people are expected to
behave in a certain way. You could almost make the case
that Bryant Park is a highly corporatized landscape, and
in its lack of freedom it tells you what it expects of
you.

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[UC] Great Saleslady @ Toyota, 48th Chestnut

2007-07-23 Thread SARAH MARLEY
Desiree Clayton made my car shop experience so much
better than I've had at any other car dealerships. 
She's professional and heartfelt at the same time. 
She's moving into this neighborhood with her A-Student
children and thought I'd pass along her name to y'all.

I know August is the best time when people shop for
cars, and this would definitely be a win/win situation
to talk to Desiree first.  She's a single mom doing a
great job with her kids and investing her life into
her new position at Toyota, and her new neighborhood. 
She was voted top sales person last month.

Have fun!

Sarah M.



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Re: [UC] not true public

2007-07-23 Thread Ross Bender

Yes, thanks Ray. Very interesting indeed.

I remember hanging out in Bryant Park at the age of 16 -- summer of 1968, so
this dates me. Also exploring Central Park -- all its wide open spaces like
Sheep Meadow and nooks and crannies like the Ramble. Oddly enough, none of
these places seemed sleazy and/or dangerous back then, although I'm sure
they're much more civilized now. One of my favorite parks was Tompkins
Square in the East Village. That same summer it was still full of aging East
European immigrants reading their Bibles in Cyrillic text. Also hippie
poets. Impromptu concerts. It went through a phase (in the late 90s? - I
wasn't there) when it became a huge encampment for the homeless, who were
subsequently purged in a major bust. When I visited a couple of years ago,
it seemed much like it had back in the day.

Public parks, to wax poetic, are the living, breathing hearts of cities. But
all of them are artificial creations. How can any of them be in fact true
public?

I suddenly have a vision of Robin Williams lying naked in Sheep Meadow and
screaming at the top of his lungs in Fisher King.

--
Ross Bender
http://rossbender.org/amos.html

On 7/23/07, Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Fascinating, Ray. Truly thought-provoking. Thank you very much.

Fond though I am of park planning, and eager though I am to suck up to
landscape architects in public if it'll shave 3% off their final bill
... still I suspect one reason Needle Park is no longer a crime-ridden
vortex is not because it has been renewed as Bryant Park, but
because the entire island of Manhattan has been relentlessly gentrified
by overwhelming market forces over the past 15 years, if I read
correctly between the lines of my New Yorkers. So it may be a case of
planning following, rather than preceding, demographic changes in the
neighborhood. Still fasinating, though.

-- Tony West
 the latest issue of penn's alumni magazine (the pennsylvania gazette)
 has a fascinating cover story on laurie olin, penn's renowned
 landscape architect, and the field of landscape architecture -- its
 place in the public sphere.

 and then I read this passage, which I thought captured what so many of
 us have been talking about wrt ucd, ucd's nid, clark park, the vision
 of the anointed, citizenship as consumerism, etc.:

 [Olin:] Part of our social obligation is to make places that are
 safe and supportive of human activity, and in many cases
 are background for other things. Sometimes the people
 should be the flowers.

 There is no better example of this essentially
 sociological approach to design than the renewal of
 Bryant Park. Situated in midtown Manhattan behind the New
 York Public Library, the four-block courtyard had by 1980
 become a crime-ridden vortex of urban abandonment
 popularly known as Needle Park.

 It was dangerous, Olin remembers. It was run-down.
 People weren't putting money into it. People were afraid
 to go into it. It was deteriorating. People were killed
 there.

 It is not often that society turns to a landscape
 architect in hopes of preventing the murder of its
 citizens, but Hanna/Olin's final design helped to turn
 one of the city's most frightening places into one of the
 safest and most popular. Their approach struck some as
 paradoxical. By stripping away the barriers that
 protected the park from the bustle of traffic on its
 edges, they aimed to turn what had been conceived as a
 peaceful respite from urban life into a busy focal point
 of it. Forsaking grand gestures and concentrating instead
 on tiny details like balustrades and folding chairs, they
 refashioned Bryant Park stitch by stitch.

 At first glance, the park looks almost the same, just a
 cleaner, fresher version of the old, architecture critic
 Paul Goldberger wrote in The New York Times. But the
 cumulative effect of small changes is to render it a
 dramatically different place, vastly more open than
 before, more tied to the street and the city around it.

 Here there was another level of paradox, for Hanna/Olin's
 success in restoring the urban qualities of Bryant Park
 stemmed from the partial commercialization of what had
 previously been purely public space. The redevelopment
 had been underwritten by the privately funded Bryant Park
 Restoration Corporation, one of the first examples of
 what are now commonly known as Business Improvement
 Districts. By effectively taking over the municipal
 government's responsibility for managing the park, the
 BPRC won the privilege to use it as a venue for
 entertainment programming, restaurant concessions, and
 the like. Hanna/Olin's disciplined design was a critical
 piece of this new vision.

 In a sense, it tells you that it's controlled, that it's
 not 'true public,' says George Thomas. It's sort of
 like a mall, or the mall as a public space but under
 private control. And as a result, people are expected to
 behave in a certain way. You could almost make the case
 that Bryant Park is a highly 

Re: [UC] not true public

2007-07-23 Thread Frank
And there's this article from today's NY Times about Columbia  
University's expansion to the north:


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/22/nyregion/thecity/22manh.html? 
ex=1342756800en=8b256b2e1d8e1c13ei=5090partner=rssuserlandemc=rss


Hilariously, the University spokesmodel tries to characterize their  
takeover of the Manhattanville neighborhood as something they're  
doing for the greater good of mankind:


And the benefits will also spill over to others, the school argues.  
“Columbia wants to work on the kinds of issues that impact humanity,  
like Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s disease,” said La-Verna Fountain, a  
Columbia spokeswoman.


She sounds like a Miss America contestant!

Frank



On Jul 23, 2007, at 08:42 PM, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:

the latest issue of penn's alumni magazine (the pennsylvania  
gazette) has a fascinating cover story on laurie olin, penn's  
renowned landscape architect, and the field of landscape  
architecture -- its place in the public sphere.


olin's projects over the years include the barcelona olympic  
village, los angeles' getty center, penn's college green,  
manhattan's bryant park, and philly's independence mall. his latest  
project, his most ambitious and in partnership with frank gehry, is  
to transform 22 acres in brooklyn into a mixed use development  
called atlantic yards, a controversial project that would make it  
'twice as dense as the most crowded census tract in the country'  
and which is strongly opposed by 'half the leading lights in  
brooklyn' who see it as a 'creeping corporate usurpation of the  
public realm.'


the article goes on to describe the increasingly sociological  
approach to landscape architecture, and how that entails growing  
tensions between the needs of the public and the vision of the  
designer, between elected municipalities and corporations, between  
process and outcomes...


and then I read this passage, which I thought captured what so many  
of us have been talking about wrt ucd, ucd's nid, clark park, the  
vision of the anointed, citizenship as consumerism, etc.:





[Olin:] Part of our social obligation is to make places that are
safe and supportive of human activity, and in many cases
are background for other things. Sometimes the people
should be the flowers.

There is no better example of this essentially
sociological approach to design than the renewal of
Bryant Park. Situated in midtown Manhattan behind the New
York Public Library, the four-block courtyard had by 1980
become a crime-ridden vortex of urban abandonment
popularly known as Needle Park.

It was dangerous, Olin remembers. It was run-down.
People weren't putting money into it. People were afraid
to go into it. It was deteriorating. People were killed
there.

It is not often that society turns to a landscape
architect in hopes of preventing the murder of its
citizens, but Hanna/Olin's final design helped to turn
one of the city's most frightening places into one of the
safest and most popular. Their approach struck some as
paradoxical. By stripping away the barriers that
protected the park from the bustle of traffic on its
edges, they aimed to turn what had been conceived as a
peaceful respite from urban life into a busy focal point
of it. Forsaking grand gestures and concentrating instead
on tiny details like balustrades and folding chairs, they
refashioned Bryant Park stitch by stitch.

At first glance, the park looks almost the same, just a
cleaner, fresher version of the old, architecture critic
Paul Goldberger wrote in The New York Times. But the
cumulative effect of small changes is to render it a
dramatically different place, vastly more open than
before, more tied to the street and the city around it.

Here there was another level of paradox, for Hanna/Olin's
success in restoring the urban qualities of Bryant Park
stemmed from the partial commercialization of what had
previously been purely public space. The redevelopment
had been underwritten by the privately funded Bryant Park
Restoration Corporation, one of the first examples of
what are now commonly known as Business Improvement
Districts. By effectively taking over the municipal
government's responsibility for managing the park, the
BPRC won the privilege to use it as a venue for
entertainment programming, restaurant concessions, and
the like. Hanna/Olin's disciplined design was a critical
piece of this new vision.

In a sense, it tells you that it's controlled, that it's
not 'true public,' says George Thomas. It's sort of
like a mall, or the mall as a public space but under
private control. And as a result, people are expected to
behave in a certain way. You could almost make the case
that Bryant Park is a highly corporatized landscape, and
in its lack of freedom it tells you what it expects of
you.





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