Re: [UC] Yet more help from Hollywood (was stickups on 43rd 45th streets)

2007-09-05 Thread Krfapt
 
In a message dated 9/4/2007 9:48:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What  irritates me is there is yet another movie coming from Hollywood 
that  glorifies the violence.


What irritates me are the people who walked away from the real University  
City listserv to join the tea and crumpets set at sweetbarkingcheese.com, then  
cross-post to both lists. What's the sense of it. You either want to be part 
of  the action on the UC list or you think you're too good for the world and 
stroke  each other's egos at sweetbarkingcheese.
 
Take your pick.  

Always at  your service  ready for a dialog,
Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident,  housing provider, curmudgeon, and 
all-around  crank,




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[UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] Yet more help from Hollywood (was stickups on 43rd 45th streets)

2007-09-05 Thread Brian Siano

Joe Clarke wrote:
What irritates me is there is yet another movie coming from Hollywood 
that glorifies the violence. 



Even
when the bad guy gets it in the end, he still gets to have a lot of 
fun killing people with all new and exotic weaponry - and
that's Cool?!  The glorification of violence whether it's retributive 
justice, a la the Western frontier, or slasher films which simply
aim to titillate with their erotic horror, the exhibition of violence, 
itself, shapes peoples minds towards it as a way of conflict resolution.

You have to admit one thing: violence can be pretty frickin' glorious.

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Re: [UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] Yet more help from Hollywood (was stickups on 43rd...

2007-09-05 Thread Krfapt
 
In a message dated 9/5/2007 8:59:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You have  to admit one thing: violence can be pretty frickin'  glorious.


Hey, if you're gonna talk dirty, keep it on sweetbarkingcheese.com and  don't 
be cross-posting it here. We were supposed to be getting rid  of that sort of 
thing when the ersatz tea-and-crumpets crowd picked up  their croquet mallets 
and planted their wickets on their own lawn.  

Al  Krigman
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RE: [UC] Yet more help from Hollywood (was stickups on 43rd 45th streets)

2007-09-05 Thread Mike V.
Hm.  Well, since you are clearly the arbiter of what does and doesn't
constitute appropriate email conduct Al, I guess I have no choice but to
comply w-
 
Oh, wait.
 
- Mike V.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:29 AM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Yet more help from Hollywood (was stickups on 43rd 
45th streets)



In a message dated 9/4/2007 9:48:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What irritates me is there is yet another movie coming from Hollywood 
that glorifies the violence.

What irritates me are the people who walked away from the real
University City listserv to join the tea and crumpets set at
sweetbarkingcheese.com, then cross-post to both lists. What's the sense
of it. You either want to be part of the action on the UC list or you
think you're too good for the world and stroke each other's egos at
sweetbarkingcheese.
 
Take your pick. 
 
Always at your service  ready for a dialog,
Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident, housing provider, curmudgeon, and
all-around crank,




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[UC] Yet more help from Hollywood (was stickups on 43rd...

2007-09-05 Thread Joe Clarke
What's the matter, Al, nobody your age around to play with? 


Joe

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 9/5/2007 8:59:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


You have to admit one thing: violence can be pretty frickin' glorious.

Hey, if you're gonna talk dirty, keep it on sweetbarkingcheese.com and 
don't be cross-posting it here. We were supposed to be getting rid 
of that sort of thing when the ersatz tea-and-crumpets crowd picked up 
their croquet mallets and planted their wickets on their own lawn.
 
Al Krigman

Left of Ivan Grozny




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[UC] More robberies and assaults in University City

2007-09-05 Thread nrvs
(For the readers of the ucneighbors list: I am replying to a post made by 
Liz Campion on the univcity list.  However, I feel the points I want to 
make are appropriate for both lists, so I am directing my response to both 
audiences.)


Hello Liz:


regular basis is hard to define and inflammatory.


Why is discussing the incidence of crime in University City 
inflammatory?  Inflammatory to whom?



it is not an experience I would define as normal or regular.


Allow me to quote from just one article from today's Daily Pennsylvanian:

On Aug. 29 at about 8:45 a.m. a female [...] reported that an unknown 
suspect approached her on the 3800 block of Woodland Walk, pushed her, 
took her wallet and fled southbound on 38th Street.


On Aug. 28 at about 5:30 p.m., a male [...] was on the 4200 block of 
Spruce Street when he was assaulted by a male offender who tried to remove 
some of his belongings.


On Aug. 28 at about 8:30 a.m., a female [...] reported that an unknown 
suspect grabbed her bag near the intersection of 41st and Pine streets and 
fled westbound on Pine Street in a vehicle.


These robberies and assaults aren't happening in the dead of night, and 
suburbanite Penn undergrads are not exclusive targets.  These incidents 
victimize ordinary people who live or work in the neighborhood, as they 
walk to and from their jobs or public transportation.



Welcome back to a new school year in University City.
The neighborhood will be at its most chaotic (and most vulnerable) until
the neighbors adjust to its changing population and people have a sense


The incidence of crime in University City is not necessarily tied to the 
Unviersity's academic schedule.  These outbreaks of street crime happen 
year-round.  What about the rash of violent assaults perpetrated by 
children on adults walking on Locust St. in July?  Was that a transitional 
period as well?


It's Penn's summer break! THAT'S why teenagers are punching non-students 
in the head at 45th and Locust and robbing them of their belongings!



of who belongs where, how to cross the street at a busy intersection, and
how to honor bike lanes.


I don't understand how crossing the street or bike lanes are relevant to 
this discussion.


Mark

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[UC] GOT KIDS? GOT TALENT?

2007-09-05 Thread Elizabeth F Campion

CEDAR PARK NEIGHBORS will be running its annual fair on

September 29
in Cedar Park, 
located between 
Baltimore Avenue and Catharine Streets and 
49th and 50th Streets. 

This year CPN wants to encourage young artists and identify and provide
some exposure to professional, visual artists as part of the activities
and offerings that will be available at the Fair.
Toward that end,  CPN is soliciting art.

KID ART

We are hoping Schools, Day Cares and After School Centers, Home Schoolers
and even private families will get on board to supply art and artists for
Cedar Park.
We are seeking paintings, drawings, photographs, prints, collages and /or
digital art done by children younger than age of 18.
Requirement are:
1. The artwork be less than or equal to 8.5 x 11 (standard letter
size).
2. It may have horizontal (landscape) or vertical (portrait) orientation.
3. It must be donated on or before September 20, 2007.
4. The artists must be under 18 (or still in High School, if older).
5. Each artwork must be accompanied by a clearly printed (or typed) label
that lists
TITLE, NAME AND AGE OF ARTIST and SCHOOL AFFILIATION (if any).

CPN will supply 'document frames' for the kid artworks. 
One of our volunteers will create a Web-site to document the donations
and to celebrate the art and talent of our children.
Another volunteer will frame the donations.
The labeled Art will be on exhibit through the duration of the fair and
the young artists will be recognized for their talents and contributions:
on the Web site and 
by signage during the exhibit and 
by loudspeaker between music sets.

The Artworks will be a hung along the black metal fence that surrounds
the climbing area.
If we get more donations than can be displayed on the fence, than
overflow will be displayed in boxes along the fence, and hung as sales
open spaces. 

We are hoping the artworks will Sell for donations of about $5.00 per
picture.
The proceeds will be used to support CPN's programs, including the
Scholarship Fund.
We hope the exhibit will be a happy, inviting and interesting backdrop
and contribute to a fun 'meet and mingle' day at our neighborhood fair.

I am prepared to pick up art from any teacher, school or program that
wants to offer this opportunity in a classroom setting.


PROFESSIONAL ART and CRAFT OPPORTUNITIES

We hope more mature artists, talented Amatuers and serious Professionals
will also participate in the fair.
CPN is offering three options and artists may choose to do one or two or
all three.

1. Post a Curriculum Vitae in a Ring Binder to be on display at the
Fair and to become part of a list to become a resource for Artists and
potential purchasers.
Submit a single sheet, 8.5 x11 page that contains brief 'RESUME' and/or
Agency details, along with a photo or self portrait and maybe some photos
of samples of work.

2. Donate a Work that can be Auctioned off to benefit CPN.
The Art Works will be photographed and the photo placed on a Web-site for
bidding.
Works will be displayed, on tables and clothes lines, during the Fair.
CPN will run a Digital Silent Auction that will be capped off with
final written bidding during the Fair.

3. Artists and Crafts People are encouraged to buy a table.
The charge is $25.00 for a table with two chairs.
Bring and sell whatever you want.

If you LIVE, WORK or HAVE A SERIOUS AND CONTRIBUTORY INTEREST IN WEST
PHILADELPHIA and are able and willing to participate in our embrace of
art and artists, please let me know, off list.

Thanks for your kind attention to this post.
Please send private replies with comments, questions or to arrange
donations and or table 'rental'.

All the best!
Liz Campion

Re: [UC] More robberies and assaults in University City

2007-09-05 Thread Elizabeth F Campion

Hi Mark,

You wrote
the fact remains that residents of our neighborhood are accosted by men
with guns on a very regular basis.

I wrote:
regular basis is hard to define and inflammatory. ...
Not one of us in my immediate family has ever been robbed at gun
point.
Collectively, we have over 120 gun-crime free years.

Not one of the new crimes you mentioned has any mention of gun
involvement.
It is not even clear if all of the suspects are men.
They are notices, not indictments of any gender or class of human or
neighborhood.
And most interesting to me, all three occurred along the Campus edge and
inside the Triply (UCD Security, Penn and City Police) protected Campus
Zone, and not west of 46th Street, where I choose to live.

I know many more people who have been injured in bike or auto accidents
than by criminals.
And, the injuries in the accidents have more severe than those suffered
through the loss of a wallet or bag.

I read your post as an attempt at thoughtful warning that could back fire
into encouraging flight from or prophylaxis against the unlikely.
I wanted to down play any fear of men or any exaggeration of crime by
the use of the word regular.
And I segued into an extension of your thoughtfulness by including the
more likely hazards caused by an influx of drivers who might be
lost,
used to different signage,
distracted.

Now that I have clarified my context, perhaps you will agree that my
contribution was at least as 
relevant to this discussion about gun point crime,  as your suspect
grabbed her bag.

I think we both wish for the safety and well being of our neighbors and
neighborhood.

Best!
Liz



On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:11:12 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 (For the readers of the ucneighbors list: I am replying to a post 
 made by 
 Liz Campion on the univcity list.  However, I feel the points I want 
 to 
 make are appropriate for both lists, so I am directing my response 
 to both 
 audiences.)
 
 Hello Liz:
 
  regular basis is hard to define and inflammatory.
 
 Why is discussing the incidence of crime in University City 
 inflammatory?  Inflammatory to whom?
 
  it is not an experience I would define as normal or regular.
 
 Allow me to quote from just one article from today's Daily 
 Pennsylvanian:
 
 On Aug. 29 at about 8:45 a.m. a female [...] reported that an 
 unknown 
 suspect approached her on the 3800 block of Woodland Walk, pushed 
 her, 
 took her wallet and fled southbound on 38th Street.
 
 On Aug. 28 at about 5:30 p.m., a male [...] was on the 4200 block 
 of 
 Spruce Street when he was assaulted by a male offender who tried to 
 remove 
 some of his belongings.
 
 On Aug. 28 at about 8:30 a.m., a female [...] reported that an 
 unknown 
 suspect grabbed her bag near the intersection of 41st and Pine 
 streets and 
 fled westbound on Pine Street in a vehicle.
 
 These robberies and assaults aren't happening in the dead of night, 
 and 
 suburbanite Penn undergrads are not exclusive targets.  These 
 incidents 
 victimize ordinary people who live or work in the neighborhood, as 
 they 
 walk to and from their jobs or public transportation.
 
  Welcome back to a new school year in University City.
  The neighborhood will be at its most chaotic (and most vulnerable) 
 until
  the neighbors adjust to its changing population and people have a 
 sense
 
 The incidence of crime in University City is not necessarily tied to 
 the 
 Unviersity's academic schedule.  These outbreaks of street crime 
 happen 
 year-round.  What about the rash of violent assaults perpetrated by 
 children on adults walking on Locust St. in July?  Was that a 
 transitional 
 period as well?
 
 It's Penn's summer break! THAT'S why teenagers are punching 
 non-students 
 in the head at 45th and Locust and robbing them of their 
 belongings!
 
  of who belongs where, how to cross the street at a busy 
 intersection, and
  how to honor bike lanes.
 
 I don't understand how crossing the street or bike lanes are 
 relevant to 
 this discussion.
 
 Mark

Re: [UC] Re: B and B info?

2007-09-05 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN

Anthony West wrote:
Perhaps they misheard, Ray. I specifically identified you as being 
familiar to me and the community from UC-list; that's how I know you and 
how we heard about the exhibit, I told them. It's often the case, during 
the course of a 45-mn interview, that not everybody focuses on 
everything the other person said with 100% accuracy.


Since the item is timely with respect to the meet the artist event, 
the entertainment editor is back in town and has reserved a hole in this 
Thursday's edition, so Sarah's and Dejáy's needs will be met. I'll be 
happy to talk with them then and clarify our mutual understanding face 
to face when next we meet.


In any event, you can't know yourself what was or not said, can you? You 
weren't there; I was. Earlier, I had requested information directly from 
you and you did not respond. So you're out of the picture. You removed 
yourself.




lordy. you still don't realize how creepy it was that you 
even went from this list to the arthur ross gallery in the 
first place, do you?



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Re: [UC] Interesting news item #2

2007-09-05 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN

Frank wrote:
Also there was a sign saying the building was managed by Campus 
Apartments. Do they do condos??




yes. in 2005 the building was reported as being developed by 
the rodin group, but at some point in 2006 that morphed into 
campus apartments developing it:


(2005) http://tinyurl.com/2pvgbp

(2006) http://tinyurl.com/36juqq


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Re: [UC] Yet more help from Hollywood (was stickups on 43rd 45th streets)

2007-09-05 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN

John Ellingsworth wrote:

May I have your attention please?
May I have your attention please?
Will the real University City listserv please stand up?

I repeat, will the real University City listserv please stand up?
We're gonna have a problem here..

...

'Cause I'm the University City listserv, yes I'm the real listserv
All you other University City listservs are just imitating
So won't the real University City listserv please stand up,
please stand up, please stand up?

...

Ha ha
Guess there's a University City listserv in all of us
Fuck it, let's all stand up

[With minimal recognition to Eminem AND intentionally cross posted
(maybe even BCC'ed) to many other lists.]




haha nice.


these motherfuckers are thinking
I'm playing thinking I'm saying
the shit cause I'm thinking it
just to be saying it


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[UC] My turn to unsubscribe

2007-09-05 Thread naomirie
I joined UCNeighbors soon after it started, because I knew a lot of good people 
were going there who were tired of being attacked on this listserv (as I have 
also been). But I figured I'd stay on the UnivCitylist and watch what happened. 
What I see are simultaneous discussions on the same topics on both lists, which 
seems silly and which overfills my in-box. But I also see UC Neighbors being 
the saner listserv, at least for me. There are a number of good people on the 
regular UC Listserv whose posts I will miss; maybe someday I'll see you over at 
UC Neighbors. 
And to those who are worried about the 'moderation' at UC Neighbors, it's so 
light as to be almost invisible. Maybe that's because people self-moderate, or 
because some folks who like to rant and rave and attack didn't join it. I don't 
know. I just know that it feels safer for me, so away I go.
Best wishes to you all. 
Naomi Segal, Regent Square

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[UC] Frustrated Phila. recycling coordinator quits suddenly

2007-09-05 Thread Lewis Mellman

Frustrated Phila. recycling coordinator quits suddenly

By Sandy Bauers

INQUIRER STAFF WRITER

In what recycling advocates say is a probably a case of abject frustration, 
Philadelphia's recycling coordinator has resigned.


After only 18 months on the job, Joan Hicken last Friday sent a sarcastic 
note to associates saying, It's been a real . . . pleasure. An autoreply 
to e-mails sent to her city inbox reads, I will be out of the office 
starting 08/31/2007 and will not return until 12/31/2007. Actually, I won't 
be returning!


Advocates see her departure as another sign of a troubled streets department 
that can't - or won't - move forward with recycling, despite estimates that 
it would save the city as much as $21.4 million in trash disposal costs.


The city has one of the worst residential recycling rates among major cities 
- 7 percent at best, compared to 45 percent for Los Angeles.


The Streets Department has not yet commented on Hickens' resignation.

The city's first recycling coordinator, Maurice Sampson 2d, noted with 
chagrin what seems like a revolving door for recycling coordiators - five in 
just two decades.


I was dismissed. Al Dezzi was ignored. Joan Batory was invisible. David 
Robinson was indicted, he said, ticking them off chronologically. Are we 
going to shoot the next one? What is the sequence of events here?


Attempts to reach Hicken were unsuccessful. She was hired in March of 2006, 
after holding a similar position in Glendale, Ariz. There, she introduced 
single-stream recycling, considered more user-friendly because all 
recyclables can be put into one bin instead of separated.


That was a purported goal in Philadelphia, where a two-year-old pilot 
project in West Oak Lane and Chestnut Hill has seen recycling rates as high 
as 50 percent.


Now, however, recycling advocates see Hicken's tenure as a case of 
misalignment - a person with expertise and enthusiasm brought into a 
department that didn't think reycling on a broad scale was either doable or, 
perhaps as a consequence, a priority.


I like to say that our trash system is the most modern you could have. In 
1975, Sampson said.


About the time she arrived, Hicken told a reporter for Public Works Magazine 
that the challenges and opportunities here are endless.


Critics figure the first part, at least, was correct. Almost from the 
beginning, Hicken was seen as floundering and frustrated.


Sampson met with her shortly after she started, when she was going through 
the kind of shock professionals go through when they come to Philly.


Nine weeks into the job, she still had no city e-mail address.

Sampson said she was struggling to understand her job, why it was so hard, 
and why she couldn't be allowed to be a professional . . . She talked about 
leaving. . . . She was very angry.


Evan Belser, now a law student but formerly a recycling advocate with Clean 
Water Action and one of the people who recommended that Hicken be hired, 
also recalled that she felt hamstrung.


She succeeded in expanding single-stream recycling here, but I think she 
knows very well she could have taken that step a lot further, Belser said. 
I think one of her bigger frustrations, which I gathered from lots of 
meetings, is that there is no overriding, well-organized goal for the city. 
No action plan.


Last year when the city unveiled new recycling trucks, all the city honchos 
were front and center. Sampson remembers that Streets Commissioner Clarena 
I.W. Tolson even wore an outfit color-coordinated to match the trucks.


But, he said, Hicken was on the fringe, taking photographs. That confused 
us. What's her job?


Observers began to wonder who was doing the work, who was taking the credit, 
who was holding up further progress and why.


That's the million-dollar question, Sampson said. All I can say is that 
bureaucracies exist to maintain the status quo. Nobody is ever fired for 
being mediocre. But they're fired all the time for being innovative.


Christine Knapp, with Citizens for Pennsylvania's Future, sees Hicken's exit 
as a lost opportunity. She could have been valued. She was obviously a 
skilled person.


Knapp added that almost nothing about the decisions that have been made in 
the department the last couple years have made sense . . . There's a lot of 
stop and go, smoke and mirrors, without a whole lot of accountability.


Recycling advocates now wonder what's next. It's a concern that the city 
can't seem to hold someone in that position, said Emily Linn, a recycling 
advocate with the Clean Air Council.


Even under a new administration, the city could well have a tough time 
finding a replacement for Hicken.


We can't just keep hiring qualified professionals into a position that 
seems to squash them, Belser said.


He suspects that most in the small pool of eligible professionals wouldn't 
touch this with a ten-foot pole. We can't expect that skillful people are 
going to show up wanting the job, if the 

[UC] Inclusionary Housing Rally tomorrow 9/6

2007-09-05 Thread Lewis Mellman

From Neighborhood Networks:



Hello NNer's,

The Philadelphia Campaign for Housing Justice (PCHJ), of which Neighborhood
Networks is a longtime member, is holding a rally for Inclusionary Housing
tomorrow, September 6 at 11:30 am at Dilworth Plaza, near the northwest 
corner

of City Hall.

Inclusionary housing is an affordable housing policy that requires builders 
of
market-rate housing to include a small  percentage of affordable housing 
units
in their developments or to contribute to a fund dedicated to affordable 
housing
in return for receiving tax and other benefits. It has been successfully 
adopted

in over 300 cities around the country but not, so far, in Philadelphia.

Whether you feel personally priced out of decent housing yourself or not,
thousands of Philadelphians have no adequate place to live for themselves 
and

their children.  While builders get huge benefits and profits from building
housing for the already well off, we need to ask them to also do something 
for

those in desperate need.  This program would do that.

For more information about Inclusionary Housing you can go to the PCHJ 
website
www.philahousingjustice.org. Whether you can come to the rally or not, 
please be

sure to sign our petition in support of Inclusionary Housing at
www.ipetitions.com/petition/HousingJustice/

Thanks for everything you do.



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Re: [UC] Yet more help from Hollywood (was stickups on 43rd 45th streets)

2007-09-05 Thread Wilma de Soto
I agree Joe.

Our present crime problem is a social-orientation problem, and people who
are reaping the monetary rewards don't care as long as they get richer.

We cannot Stop The Violence; Stop The Madness because the socialization of
children (AND their parents), has already been done.  They don't know any
better, and it will get worse.

If they wish to hide behind the excuse of, The parents should monitor their
children or shouldn't buy it, apparently they do not realize or don't care
those kids parents are FAR from our parents.

They know and are making LOTS of money without considering the consequences
of greater society.

I am sure people who saw Elvis or The Beatles had the same worries, but at
LEAST they were educated.

With business and corporations rampant, this is an unprecedented situation;
especially for African-Americans who remember the Civil-Rights Struggle.

Sorry.

Slow Curtain, THE END.


On 9/4/07 9:45 PM, Joe Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What irritates me is there is yet another movie coming from Hollywood
 that glorifies the violence.  In American  Gangster
 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0765429/)
 Denzel Washington stars as the head of an organized crime ring in
 Harlem, who because his crew is black, have to fight the Italian, Irish
 and Jewish mobs
 to get their respect and piece of the pie.  It's a feel good, family
 movie for African Americans who can now take pride in their
 accomplishments in the arena of organized crime(?), prostitution, drugs
 and assorted mayhem.  Hollywood, or some of the ruthless predators of
 peoples dreams, needs to be reined in.  Even
 when the bad guy gets it in the end, he still gets to have a lot of fun
 killing people with all new and exotic weaponry - and
 that's Cool?!  The glorification of violence whether it's retributive
 justice, a la the Western frontier, or slasher films which simply
 aim to titillate with their erotic horror, the exhibition of violence,
 itself, shapes peoples minds towards it as a way of conflict resolution.
 
 Joe Clarke
 
 
 
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Re: [UC] Yet more help from Hollywood (was stickups on 43rd 45th streets)

2007-09-05 Thread Wilma de Soto
Oh, come now!

Al is just tweaking your nose and having you guys on a bit.

The other listserv was formed by those who felt we were knaves, rogues and
blackguards and had to disengage. :)

Well, we STILL may be a bit rough around the edges but our neighbors are
ALWAYS our neighbors NO MATTER WHAT.

Deal with it.

Fondly and your neighbor,

Wilma


On 9/5/07 11:28 AM, Mike V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hm.  Well, since you are clearly the arbiter of what does and doesn't
 constitute appropriate email conduct Al, I guess I have no choice but to
 comply w-
  
 Oh, wait.
  
 - Mike V.
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On  Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007  8:29 AM
 To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
 Subject: Re: [UC] Yet  more help from Hollywood (was stickups on 43rd  45th
 streets)
 
  
  
 In a message dated 9/4/2007 9:48:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
 What irritates me is there  is yet another movie coming from Hollywood
 that glorifies the  violence.
  
  
 What irritates me are the people who walked away from the real University
 City listserv to join the tea and crumpets set at sweetbarkingcheese.com,
 then  cross-post to both lists. What's the sense of it. You either want to be
 part  of the action on the UC list or you think you're too good for the world
 and  stroke each other's egos at sweetbarkingcheese.
  
  
  
 Take your pick. 
  
  
 Always at your  service  ready for a dialog,
 Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident,  housing provider, curmudgeon, and
 all-around  crank,
 
 
 
  
  
 
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Re: [UC] Yet more help from Hollywood (was stickups on 43rd...

2007-09-05 Thread Wilma de Soto
Joe, my Abracccio winning Pinochle partner, I happen to represent that.

Seriously, we DID win partners and I want to be your partner again.
Although Al can take a jab as well as give one, one never knows WHO would be
around in one's age group today or tomorrow.

So sue me!

Wilma



On 9/5/07 11:59 AM, Joe Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What's the matter, Al, nobody your age around to play with?
 
 Joe
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 9/5/2007 8:59:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 You have to admit one thing: violence can be pretty frickin' glorious.
 
 Hey, if you're gonna talk dirty, keep it on sweetbarkingcheese.com and
 don't be cross-posting it here. We were supposed to be getting rid
 of that sort of thing when the ersatz tea-and-crumpets crowd picked up
 their croquet mallets and planted their wickets on their own lawn.
  
 Al Krigman
 Left of Ivan Grozny
 
 
 
 
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Re: [UC] Yet more help from Hollywood (was stickups on 43rd...

2007-09-05 Thread Anthony West

Hm. Pinochle, anybody?

-- Tony West



Joe, my Abracccio winning Pinochle partner, I happen to represent that.

Seriously, we DID win partners and I want to be your partner again.
Although Al can take a jab as well as give one, one never knows WHO would be
around in one's age group today or tomorrow.

So sue me!

Wilma
  





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Re: [UC] 43rd and 42nd Streets: Two robberies at gunpoint last night

2007-09-05 Thread Drexel Guy
Have these people been caught yet? Has there been any word from the police? 
Isn't that the intersection where the cooffee house is? I see the UCD people
there nearly every night. Weren't they there then?

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Subject: Re: [UC] 43rd and 42nd Streets: Two robberies at gunpoint last night


Hello Ray:

 yikes. what time were these incidents? (roughly)

My roommate was robbed at 43rd and Baltimore at around 11:30.  I don't 
know when the robbery at 42nd and Locust occurred, but I may be able to 
find out later.

Mark

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