[UC] Cedar Park Fair Trivia Question #112
The CEDAR PARK FAIR will be held SATURDAY, Sept. 25 from noon-5 at 50th and Baltimore. [Unlike those noisy cluttered amalgams of Penn students and crusties from the 'hood with cacaphonous sounds reputed to be music that are held in Park B down the street, we have a civilised atmosphere, wholesome entertainment and elevated dialogue.] Trivia question: when we bought our house we found a Philadelphia Yellow Pages from 1935. Which category took up the largest space? OK I'll give you a hint ...was it (a) Lawyers (b) Hardware stores (c) Daycare Centers (d) Stables (e) Drugstores To find out the correct answer, come to the Fair. First with the right answer wins 10 raffle tickets! Roger
Re: [UC] Clark Park: Power and secrecy was the goal, UCR
Does comparison to the Holocaust invoke Godwin's Law, and if so, does that mean that Glenn is forever barred from writing further messages on this topic? Kathleen On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:47 PM, craigso...@aol.com wrote: “They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. And then we came for Glenn, and everyone cheered up. Ciao, Craig *From:* owner-univc...@list.purple.com [ mailto:owner-univc...@list.purple.com owner-univc...@list.purple.com?] *On Behalf Of *Glenn *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:18 AM *To:* UnivCity@list.purple.com *Subject:* [UC] Clark Park: Power and secrecy was the goal, UCR Citizens, Here is the UC Review coverage of the Clark park closure. Like always, the local residents are supposed to feel stupid while they are wondering how they missed “nearly five years of planning and nearly countless public meetings geared toward receiving community feedback on revitalizing Park A… (UC Review) http://ucreview.com/tree-removal-in-clark-park-a-elicits-surprise-from-some-local-residents-p2341-1.htm?twindow=defaultsmenu=1mad=no snip Today, it is the park users whose culture and rights are being destroyed. I copied this from the Holocaust memorial in downtown Boston for the silent ones to consider: “They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for me and by that time no one was left to speak up.” Pastor Martin Neimoller =
Re: [UC] Clark Park: Power and secrecy was the goal, UCR
No, but according to Wikipedia, it means that Glenn has lost and the discussion is now over. -cm On Sep 24, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Kathleen Turner wrote: Does comparison to the Holocaust invoke Godwin's Law, and if so, does that mean that Glenn is forever barred from writing further messages on this topic? Kathleen On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:47 PM, craigso...@aol.com wrote: “They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. And then we came for Glenn, and everyone cheered up. Ciao, Craig From: owner-univc...@list.purple.com [mailto:owner-univc...@list.purple.com ] On Behalf Of Glenn Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:18 AM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: [UC] Clark Park: Power and secrecy was the goal, UCR Citizens, Here is the UC Review coverage of the Clark park closure. Like always, the local residents are supposed to feel stupid while they are wondering how they missed “nearly five years of planning and nearly countless public meetings geared toward receiving community feedback on revitalizing Park A… (UC Review) http://ucreview.com/tree-removal-in-clark-park-a-elicits-surprise-from-some-local-residents-p2341-1.htm?twindow=defaultsmenu=1mad=no snip Today, it is the park users whose culture and rights are being destroyed. I copied this from the Holocaust memorial in downtown Boston for the silent ones to consider: “They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for me and by that time no one was left to speak up.” Pastor Martin Neimoller =
[UC] Fwd: Low Cost Vaccine and Microchip Clinic this Sunday, September 26!!!
Begin forwarded message: From: Sabrina Martin Keeler sabrinasa...@gmail.com Date: September 24, 2010 9:03:40 AM EDT Subject: Low Cost Vaccine and Microchip Clinic this Sunday, September 26!!! Reply-To: sabrinasa...@gmail.com In honor of World Rabies Day September 28th: THERE WILL BE A LOW COST VACCINE CLINIC on THIS SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 26th! WHEN: 9/26 from 10am-4pm WHERE: 4001 Pine Street, Philadelphia, PA At the Alpha Psi house (UPenn Veterinary Fraternity) WHAT: Rabies and Distemper: $10 together for both Other vaccines: $10 each Microchipping: $20 Flea/Tick prevention: $10/tube (lasts one month) All proceeds benefit the PSPCA! Thanks to our sponsors: PSPCA, Merial, and SCAVMA Location: 4001 Pine Street, Philadelphia, PA it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
[UC] Violinist Tim Fain CAMERATA PHILADELPHIA
Hi, All, The wonderful concert series at West Catholic is back! Read below about the first in this year's series that will take place next Wednesday evening at West Catholic High School. Note that a Center City performance is also scheduled for Thursday evening. You will be amazed at the beauty of these performances. Hope to see you there. Fran (Philadelphia, PA) September 23, 2010 — CAMERATA PHILADELPHIA presents its first concert cycle of the season with its University City Series and new Center City Series. Music Director, cellist and conductor Stephen Framil joins CAMERATA PHILADELPHIA violinist Tim Fain and pianist Daniel Lau. The program includes Beethoven’s Sonata No. 2 in G minor for Piano Cello, Op. 5 No. 2, Zoltán Kodály’s Duo for Violin Cello, Op. 7, and Anton Arensky’s Piano Trio No. 1 in D minor, Op. 32. University City Series: Wednesday, September 29 at 7:30 PM at the West Catholic Conservatory (4501 Chestnut Street, Philadelphia, PA 19139). Free gated on-site parking at 46 Street Chestnut. Limited seating capacity: call for reservations. Center City Series: Thursday, September 30 at 8:00 PM at The Church of the Holy Trinity, Rittenhouse Square (1904 Walnut Street, Philadelphia, PA 19103). General admission is $20, student/seniors is $10. For event and ticket information and reservations call CAMERATA PHILADELPHIA at 215.360.2173, or e-mail at conce...@camerataphiladelphia.org, or on the web at www.camerataphiladelphia.org. — # # # — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Clark Park: Power and secrecy was the goal, UCR
but then soon after glenn invoked chaucer, and Right so as bees out swarmen from an hyve, Out of the develes ers ther gonne dryve Twenty thousand freres on a route, And thurghout helle swarmed al aboute, And comen agayn as faste as they may gon, And in his ers they crepten everychon. He clapte his tayl agayn and lay ful stille. :-) Cindy Miller wrote: No, but according to Wikipedia, it means that Glenn has lost and the discussion is now over. -cm On Sep 24, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Kathleen Turner wrote: Does comparison to the Holocaust invoke Godwin's Law, and if so, does that mean that Glenn is forever barred from writing further messages on this topic? Kathleen On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:47 PM, craigso...@aol.com mailto:craigso...@aol.com wrote: “They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. And then we came for Glenn, and everyone cheered up. Ciao, Craig You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Clark Park: Power and secrecy was the goal, UCR
Darco, I would normally wish to ignore the ambiguous injury you suffered in your one line tweet. These tweets solely to intimidate speakers or chill speech of others should not ordinarily receive a serious response. But the code of silence which you invoke is so severely dangerous that I must respond publicly! Many of us, who have learned from the WW II holocaust and all the other holocausts, also stand firmly behind the knowledge that the lessons from the history must never be forgotten or silenced. Otherwise, they will always repeat. A million people died in the Iran Iraq war when we armed Saddam Hussein to kill Persians. How many died in Vietnam and Cambodia as they were called gooks? How many died in Iraq from US sanctions? An estimated million more Iraqis died in the recent war and there are millions of refugees destabilizing the entire region. Those dead people were called ragheads in military recruitment video games. This blood offends me and those dead millions can't tell their stories! Darco, this blood and much more has been spilled since 1945. I won't be silenced while the main cause this blood was spilled is because too much of middle class America has indeed forgotten the reasons why Neimoller's quote is carved in granite on holocaust memorials around the world.I think those words should be studied and discussed by every high school student in America. (I copied the famous quote by hand because I wanted it burned into my mind.) Those who wish to mystify the holocausts and deny the study of these frighten me! A main lesson of that quote has to do with the inevitable course history will take when good people stay silent when the other is first defined and dehumanized. For many years, the people from Clark Park and West Philly have been actively portrayed as criminals, prostitutes, gangs, etc. My inner city neighbors and poor people have similarly been categorized and caged afterward. Less than a year ago, a UCD executive was quoted in a city wide paper claiming that people did not go West of 43rd St before the UCD takeover. I was OFFENDED! To those of us who understand the messages in Neimoller's words, this intensive dehumanizing propaganda campaign against my neighbors has been alarming. This process that WE MUST NEVER FORGET is happening right here, RIGHT NOW! The code of silence required to avoid offending you is extremely dangerous. I also want people to see the body bags and feel uncomfortable with the global horror caused because they refuse to speak up against racism and all the forces to define others and strip them of their rights and lives. I don't give a damn who is offended or uncomfortable. Now Darco, I can tell you to take your silly ambiguous tweet and stuff it. Sincerely, Glenn For emphasis: They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for me and by that time no one was left to speak up. Pastor Martin Neimoller On 9/23/2010 2:14 PM, Lalevic, Darco wrote: Glenn, While I appreciate your futile intentions to wrest control of Clark Park from the UCD/Penn/FOCP/everyone-else conspiracy, I find it extremely offensive that you use a Holocaust reference for effect. Darco *From:* owner-univc...@list.purple.com [mailto:owner-univc...@list.purple.com] *On Behalf Of *Glenn *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:18 AM *To:* UnivCity@list.purple.com *Subject:* [UC] Clark Park: Power and secrecy was the goal, UCR Citizens, Here is the UC Review coverage of the Clark park closure. Like always, the local residents are supposed to feel stupid while they are wondering how they missed nearly five years of planning and nearly countless public meetings geared toward receiving community feedback on revitalizing Park A... (UC Review) http://ucreview.com/tree-removal-in-clark-park-a-elicits-surprise-from-some-local-residents-p2341-1.htm?twindow=defaultsmenu=1mad=no http://ucreview.com/tree-removal-in-clark-park-a-elicits-surprise-from-some-local-residents-p2341-1.htm?twindow=defaultsmenu=1mad=no If you looked closely at the announcements of Friends of Clark Park meetings over the past few years, a few mentioned updates about maintenance. Almost no one from the community, other than the anointed FOCP leaders themselves, bore the pain of these gatherings as I did. Fact: There was no portion at FOCP board meetings that was ever geared toward receiving PUBLIC feedback about Penn's plan to redesign the park! Eyewitness account: A few minutes (4 or 5) were left at the end of each show, in case anyone wanted to thank and applaud the FOCP leaders. For three consecutive years, I attempted to make a one minute statement to voice opposition to the closed,
Re: [UC] Clark Park: Power and secrecy was the goal, UCR
Yes, you understand! On 9/24/2010 8:33 AM, Cindy Miller wrote: No, but according to Wikipedia, it means that Glenn has lost and the discussion is now over. -cm On Sep 24, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Kathleen Turner wrote: Does comparison to the Holocaust invoke Godwin's Law, and if so, does that mean that Glenn is forever barred from writing further messages on this topic? Kathleen On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:47 PM, craigso...@aol.com mailto:craigso...@aol.com wrote: They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. And then we came for Glenn, and everyone cheered up. Ciao, Craig *From:* owner-univc...@list.purple.com mailto:owner-univc...@list.purple.com [mailto:owner-univc...@list.purple.com mailto:owner-univc...@list.purple.com?] *On Behalf Of *Glenn *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:18 AM *To:* UnivCity@list.purple.com mailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com *Subject:* [UC] Clark Park: Power and secrecy was the goal, UCR Citizens, Here is the UC Review coverage of the Clark park closure. Like always, the local residents are supposed to feel stupid while they are wondering how they missed nearly five years of planning and nearly countless public meetings geared toward receiving community feedback on revitalizing Park A... (UC Review) http://ucreview.com/tree-removal-in-clark-park-a-elicits-surprise-from-some-local-residents-p2341-1.htm?twindow=defaultsmenu=1mad=no http://ucreview.com/tree-removal-in-clark-park-a-elicits-surprise-from-some-local-residents-p2341-1.htm?twindow=defaultsmenu=1mad=no snip Today, it is the park users whose culture and rights are being destroyed. I copied this from the Holocaust memorial in downtown Boston for the silent ones to consider: They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for me and by that time no one was left to speak up. Pastor Martin Neimoller = No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3155 - Release Date: 09/23/10 14:34:00
RE: [UC] Clark Park: Power and secrecy was the goal, UCR
Bullshit. I understand all too well the rise of corporatism, the failings of society, the consequences of war, hate, racism, and distrust. I have experienced it and seen it first hand. I also don't want you to speak for me. I can do it myself. I was born in this neighborhood and have lived here almost all of my life. I too am often offended by the bias and misinformation that is often propagated as marketing for University City. As for happening right here, right now I can tell you it's been happening right here for as long as I can remember, and I'm pretty sure for longer than that. What I'm offended by is that you choose Clark Park as the focal representation of societal horrors. Sure, I disagree with UCD and FOCP on many issues, but I'm willing to bet after they blow all that money, the park will be used by the same people as it is now. Yes, I disagree with (what I perceive as) the push to disenfranchise certain people from the park (I'm not accusing anyone directly of doing so, I'm reflecting on the selective enforcement of what I consider stupid laws). And yes, what is happening is representative of our society in general. But to equate what is happening with Clark Park in any way with the death of millions is disrespectful. Additionally, it puts your argument into the irrational category for most people. Your yelling that the world is going to end, rather than providing detailed facts to your argument, inevitably causes fewer people to become involved. As you yourself have pointed out, how many others have publicly fought against the Clark Park changes? The fact is, by not engaging the argument in a logical, academic way, you've pushed the relevance of your argument to the wayside. And really, 5 years of planning? I remember seeing a plan for revitalizing Clark Park 10 years ago! If someone didn't know this was coming then they clearly have not been paying attention. Darco PS: I have one for you: A shepherd-boy, who watched a flock of sheep near a village, brought out the villagers three or four times by crying out, Wolf! Wolf! and when his neighbors came to help him, laughed at them for their pains. The Wolf, however, did truly come at last. The Shepherd-boy, now really alarmed, shouted in an agony of terror: Pray, do come and help me; the Wolf is killing the sheep; but no one paid any heed to his cries, nor rendered any assistance. The Wolf, having no cause of fear, at his leisure lacerated or destroyed the whole flock. - Aesop From: Glenn [mailto:glen...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 12:36 PM To: Lalevic, Darco Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Clark Park: Power and secrecy was the goal, UCR Darco, I would normally wish to ignore the ambiguous injury you suffered in your one line tweet. These tweets solely to intimidate speakers or chill speech of others should not ordinarily receive a serious response. But the code of silence which you invoke is so severely dangerous that I must respond publicly! Many of us, who have learned from the WW II holocaust and all the other holocausts, also stand firmly behind the knowledge that the lessons from the history must never be forgotten or silenced. Otherwise, they will always repeat. A million people died in the Iran Iraq war when we armed Saddam Hussein to kill Persians. How many died in Vietnam and Cambodia as they were called gooks? How many died in Iraq from US sanctions? An estimated million more Iraqis died in the recent war and there are millions of refugees destabilizing the entire region. Those dead people were called ragheads in military recruitment video games. This blood offends me and those dead millions can't tell their stories! Darco, this blood and much more has been spilled since 1945. I won't be silenced while the main cause this blood was spilled is because too much of middle class America has indeed forgotten the reasons why Neimoller's quote is carved in granite on holocaust memorials around the world.I think those words should be studied and discussed by every high school student in America. (I copied the famous quote by hand because I wanted it burned into my mind.) Those who wish to mystify the holocausts and deny the study of these frighten me! A main lesson of that quote has to do with the inevitable course history will take when good people stay silent when the other is first defined and dehumanized. For many years, the people from Clark Park and West Philly have been actively portrayed as criminals, prostitutes, gangs, etc. My inner city neighbors and poor people have similarly been categorized and caged afterward. Less than a year ago, a UCD executive was quoted in a city wide paper claiming that people did not go West of 43rd St before the UCD takeover. I was OFFENDED! To those of us who understand the messages in Neimoller's words, this intensive dehumanizing propaganda campaign against my neighbors has
[UC] Air needed -- for Clark Park Youth Soccer
Tomorrow morning is starting day for the Fall season of Clark Park Youth Soccer Our electric pump, needed to inflate 5 or 6 dozen soccer balls, has disappeared from the storage shed in Clark Park. If anyone knows the whereabouts of the pump, please contact me or Melanie Bartlett (clarkparksoc...@yahoo.com). Or, if a kind soul has an electric pump they would be willing to lend to us, at least for tomorrow morning, we would be very, very grateful. Thank you, Kathleen
Re: [UC] Clark Park: Power and secrecy was the goal, UCR - and your rights are?
In a message dated 9/24/2010 12:37:39 Eastern Daylight Time, glen...@earthlink.net writes: ... speak up against ...the forces ... and strip them of their rights In the end you know what we do with guys like you, who know their rights, and refuse to accept they're wrongs? _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-z44dVBU64_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-z44dVBU64) Is that a John Deere parked in the rear of your Baltimore Ave gentleman's ranchette? Ciao, Craig
Re: [UC] Clark Park: Power and secrecy was the goal, UCR
You HAVE? On 9/24/10 3:04 PM, Lalevic, Darco lale...@wharton.upenn.edu wrote: Bullshit. I understand all too well the rise of corporatism, the failings of society, the consequences of war, hate, racism, and distrust. I have experienced it and seen it first hand. I also don¹t want you to speak for me. I can do it myself. I was born in this neighborhood and have lived here almost all of my life. I too am often offended by the bias and misinformation that is often propagated as marketing for ³University City². As for happening ³right here, right now² I can tell you it¹s been happening ³right here² for as long as I can remember, and I¹m pretty sure for longer than that. What I¹m offended by is that you choose Clark Park as the focal representation of societal horrors. Sure, I disagree with UCD and FOCP on many issues, but I¹m willing to bet after they blow all that money, the park will be used by the same people as it is now. Yes, I disagree with (what I perceive as) the push to disenfranchise certain people from the park (I¹m not accusing anyone directly of doing so, I¹m reflecting on the selective enforcement of what I consider stupid laws). And yes, what is happening is representative of our society in general. But to equate what is happening with Clark Park in any way with the death of millions is disrespectful. Additionally, it puts your argument into the irrational category for most people. Your yelling that the world is going to end, rather than providing detailed facts to your argument, inevitably causes fewer people to become involved. As you yourself have pointed out, how many others have publicly fought against the Clark Park changes? The fact is, by not engaging the argument in a logical, academic way, you¹ve pushed the relevance of your argument to the wayside. And really, 5 years of planning? I remember seeing a plan for ³revitalizing² Clark Park 10 years ago! If someone didn¹t know this was coming then they clearly have not been paying attention. Darco PS: I have one for you: ³A shepherd-boy, who watched a flock of sheep near a village, brought out the villagers three or four times by crying out, Wolf! Wolf! and when his neighbors came to help him, laughed at them for their pains. The Wolf, however, did truly come at last. The Shepherd-boy, now really alarmed, shouted in an agony of terror: Pray, do come and help me; the Wolf is killing the sheep; but no one paid any heed to his cries, nor rendered any assistance. The Wolf, having no cause of fear, at his leisure lacerated or destroyed the whole flock.² Aesop From: Glenn [mailto:glen...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 12:36 PM To: Lalevic, Darco Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Clark Park: Power and secrecy was the goal, UCR Darco, I would normally wish to ignore the ambiguous injury you suffered in your one line tweet. These tweets solely to intimidate speakers or chill speech of others should not ordinarily receive a serious response. But the code of silence which you invoke is so severely dangerous that I must respond publicly! Many of us, who have learned from the WW II holocaust and all the other holocausts, also stand firmly behind the knowledge that the lessons from the history must never be forgotten or silenced. Otherwise, they will always repeat. A million people died in the Iran Iraq war when we armed Saddam Hussein to kill Persians. How many died in Vietnam and Cambodia as they were called gooks? How many died in Iraq from US sanctions? An estimated million more Iraqis died in the recent war and there are millions of refugees destabilizing the entire region. Those dead people were called ragheads in military recruitment video games. This blood offends me and those dead millions can't tell their stories! Darco, this blood and much more has been spilled since 1945. I won't be silenced while the main cause this blood was spilled is because too much of middle class America has indeed forgotten the reasons why Neimoller's quote is carved in granite on holocaust memorials around the world.I think those words should be studied and discussed by every high school student in America. (I copied the famous quote by hand because I wanted it burned into my mind.) Those who wish to mystify the holocausts and deny the study of these frighten me! A main lesson of that quote has to do with the inevitable course history will take when good people stay silent when the other is first defined and dehumanized. For many years, the people from Clark Park and West Philly have been actively portrayed as criminals, prostitutes, gangs, etc. My inner city neighbors and poor people have similarly been categorized and caged afterward. Less than a year ago, a UCD executive was quoted in a city wide paper claiming that people did not go West of 43rd St before the UCD takeover. I was
