RE: SPAM SPAM -- Re: [UC] taxi overcharging from airport

2004-12-09 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
Problem is, that some (many) taxi drivers refused to take people to some
destinations, especially if they thought they might not get a fare to take
'em back to center city.  I can remember getting into a cab late one night
and asking to be taken to Mt. Airy.  The taxi driver refused saying he
didn't go there.  We wound up on the 23 trolley (tells you how long ago
this was) and then finding out that our trolley stopped at Broad and Erie
which, it turned out, was a fairly happinin' spot early, early in the
morning.  But that's a different story.

Of course, there is the issue that a lot of taxis won't pick up dark skinned
citizens because they often ask to be taken into a part of town where the
cabbie isn't likely to get a fare to bring him back.  Again, a different
story.

-Original Message-
From: Jessica Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 3:02 PM
To: Clinton, J. Scott
Subject: Re: SPAM SPAM -- Re: [UC] taxi overcharging from airport


I haven't read the taxi riders bill of rights so you might be correct.  
But it does seem that they should take you where you want to go once you 
get in the cab and commit to the fare.  But it seems logical that they 
should be able to decline a destination. 

My only point is the taxi driver is trying to earn as much money as 
possible for their long wait at the airport which is why they try to 
charge the flat rate to UC.   I don't fault them for that and there is a 
work around.

Thanks for your comments.

Jessica

Clinton, J. Scott wrote:

It is, of course,
the right of the taxi driver to wait for a center city destination to 
optimize the amount of time they made over the 2 hour wait. 



Actually, it isn't.  They must take you where you ask to go.  Part of 
the taxi riders bill of rights.  They don't, however, have to wait in 
the line at the airport, they can deadhead back to town if they like.



  


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Re: [UC] striking at strikes ....

2004-12-07 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
If they laid off all these people, they could afford to run septa and 
probably have a surplus.

SEPTAs problems are much greater than the cost of their labour.  While every
Philadelphian has their stories of rude SEPTA workers, most of them do their
jobs very well in work conditions that most of us wouldn't choose.  SEPTA is
one of the most 'efficient' transportation providers in the country because
of the states mandate that they recover 50% of their operating expenses from
farebox revenue.

Transportation will never have a surplus.  There is no money to be made in
moving people which is why all of the private transportation systems
disolved.

Fund public transport at the same levels that highways are funded.  Then
SEPTA will run all night, every five minutes and be clean and fast and
Philadelphians will have to come up with something else to complain about.

I have plenty of complaints about how SEPTA is run, but I try to keep my
complaints framed by pointing out the realities of mass transit.


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Re: [UC] striking at strikes ....

2004-12-07 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
Title: Message



Yes but that is the past and I'd like to think the vast majority 
of placesare past the point where they need unions and can get good labor 
and pay adecent wage w/o having to have it be over the top because a mass of 
peopleforce it to be.
I'd like to think that too, but do you 
shop at Wal-Mart? A lot of people are starting to make a distinction 
between "minimum wage" and "living wage". Personally, I 
believe that my earnings impart a responsibility upon me to use those monies 
wisely...a concept that Christians refer to as "stewardship". Because of 
my conviction, I don't shop at Wal-Mart (though I do buy things from Home 
Despot...mostly out of frustration and lack of selection at my local hardware 
stores) and I don't feel that my biggest requirement in purchasing things is 
that the price be as low as possible. I am willing to pay more for a 
quality product. I believe that it benefits me as well as society for 
people to be able to earn a living that allows them to live above the poverty 
line.
regarding the union and the 
turnpike, I would have to agree that the case is completely unlike 
wal-mart. I remember reading about a study that someone did for a turnpike 
(might have been MA) for how to cut costs. The reccomendation was to 
eliminate fares because the cost of collecting them was greater than the fares 
collected. This is not the case on the PA turnpike, but when EZ pass was 
launched, an agreement was reached that the EZ pass would not eliminate any 
tolltaker jobs. The turnpike is a political entity, and eliminating 
patronage jobs is not the goal of any politician that I know 
of.
Like most things, unions bring 
negatives along with their positives.


RE: [UC] Lardassery (was striking at strikes ...)

2004-12-07 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
Perhaps I am wrong, but as you responded to my post, I am assuming that you
are refering to me as being a member of the upper middle class who bemoans
unions while doing nothing to help working people make a living wage.

Please allow me a few pixels to defend myself.

- I doubt my family would make the cut for upper middle class although
such terms are quite vague and perhaps because we have some discresionary
income, we might fit the category.
- I do not bemoan unions or unionism.  As with all things, they bring with
them good and ill.
- I believe in living wages and felt that my earlier post alluded to that.
Perhaps I wasn't clear.  How would you suggest that I help working people
make a living wage?  How do you?

Thanks in advance,
J. Scott Clinton


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Subject:  [UC] Lardassery (was striking at strikes ...)


I get really tired of white-collar workers (and people in the upper middle
class) who bemoan Unions, but who do nothing to help working people make a
living wage.

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RE: SPAM SPAM -- Re: [UC] Community improvement, one bill at a ti me

2004-12-01 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
Will one of our distinguised esquires comment on the probable outcome of
such a court case or perhaps comment on what the path to get this portion of
the bill overturned would be?  I hear plenty of news coverage on how some
part of a law was overturned by some court or other and I wonder how long
(and how much it cost) it took to get to that stage.

-jsc

-Original Message-
From: William H. Magill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:36 PM
To: John Ellingsworth
Cc: UC
Subject: SPAM SPAM -- Re: [UC] Community improvement, one bill at a time



On 01 Dec, 2004, at 11:32, John Ellingsworth wrote:
 To my fellow neighbors more than 500 feet away from me - I am going to
 put
 up a big billboard on my house, advertising my new slots parlor.

ONLY persons, which I believe  means natural persons, but am not 
positive, living within 500 feet of the offending billboard have any 
standing to complain.

It is not clear if renters have any say, or only the property owners. 
I assume the latter.

As I read the change, it puts an end to the ability of ANY Community 
Zoning Committee or similar group to have any kind of standing by 
which to oppose the activities of say, the University to do whatever 
they want with 40th Street.

This change applies not only to Billboards (who crafted the amendment), 
but to Stop-and-Gos, rendering plants (which one could build virtually 
anywhere along Chestnut or Walnut Streets - which are zoned 
commercial), corner tappies and other similar popular establishments.

This one will obviously wind up in the courts.

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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Re: [UC] taxi overcharging from airport

2004-11-30 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
Last I checked, the state legislature was controlled by the GOP.  Maybe I
missed something.

Doesn't matter, I don't want to restart the GOP vs. Dems debate that seems
to flare up from time to time on this list.  The behavior of both state and
city governments makes me ill.


-Original Message-

On 30 Nov, 2004, at 13:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remember that all bad things are the fault of the GOP and vote
 Democrat.

 In a message dated 11/30/2004 11:38:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
 Clinton, J. Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What do we, the citizens of the city, do about things when the
 government abdicates its responsibilty?

Except that the City and the State are controlled by the Democrats.

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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RE: SPAM SPAM -- [UC] Crazy Idea for Restaurant That Only Sells O nly Cereal

2004-11-30 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
Though sounding gender-biased these days, my grandmother used to tell me
that A fool and his money are soon parted.  Her saying is as reasonable a
buisness plan as many that have been floated in the past few years.

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Cass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 3:18 PM
To: 'William H. Magill'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SPAM SPAM -- [UC] Crazy Idea for Restaurant That Only Sells Only
Cereal


From what I understand, those crazy college kids eat cereal 24-7.  That
being said, I really have a hard time believing that this place has very
good long-term prospects.  Maybe they will make millions and prove me wrong.
I bet not.

Jonathan A. Cass

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William H. Magill
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 2:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UC] If it weren't for Penn's dismal track record in top-down
planning...


On 30 Nov, 2004, at 08:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If it weren't for Penn's dismal record in top-down planning for its 
 commercial spaces, its horrible rate of failures, its revolving door 
 for one business
 after another that make no market sense ... I'd assume the following
 was a
 spoof.

This one (Ceriality) isn't any of Penn's doing, and it's not a National
Chain.

The only other existing Cereality location is inside the Arizona State
book store, which opened last year.

According to the review in the Inquirer over the weekend, a single bowl of
Fruit Loops will cost you $3.99!!!

Considering that even at Fresh Grocer at 40th street, you can usually buy a
box on sale at 2 for $6.00, and that the location chosen charges the highest
Square Foot rent in the City, I think this is just a case of Penn fleecing
the yocals from Arizona who have more money than a rational business plan.



T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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RE: [UC] Bike regulations: a pedestrian speaks

2004-11-23 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
Title: Message



-Original Message-From: 
Marianne Das [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 
2004 4:22 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: SPAM SPAM 
-- [UC] Bike regulations: a pedestrian speaks

  I've ploughed through 14 e-mails on the listserv 
  that are either pro-bike or pro-car. Although I'm sympathetic to bikers, here 
  are two pet peevesfrom a beleaguered pedestrian.
  
  (1) If you are going to ride your bike on 
  the sidewalk (and this is done everywhere west of 40th Street), please warn 
  the pedestrian of your approach. Why is it that none of the bikes with all 
  those bells and whistles aren't equipped with either a bell or whistle? I wish 
  I had a nickel for the times I have been hit or narrowly missed by a 
  bike.[Clinton, J. 
  Scott]my bike has a bell, and little else. no whistles. i 
  ring my bell a heck of a lot although cars and trolleys don't seem to be 
  impressed. I never ride on sidewalks. they're called sideWALKs for 
  a reason.
  
  2. Why are you in such a damned hurry? Cars 
  aren't allowed to pass on the passenger side of a bus when it is taking on or 
  discharging passengers. Why do bikes do this? My daughter was seriously 
  injured this way.[Clinton, J. Scott]it has to do with momentum, especially 
  on hills. I do stop when a trolley is discharging or taking on 
  passengers, though. I'm one of the slower bicyclists in the west philly, 
  though. Bike messangers blowby me likei'm standing 
  still. That is mostly because I am so out of 
  shape.
  
  I walk more than I ride, though, so I try to remember 
  the golden rule when I'm riding and I keep in mind the needs of bicyclists 
  when I walk.
  


[UC] Arcade at the Bridge (and art films)

2004-11-19 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
Title: Message



regarding the regulars at the bridge: 
visit the riverview and see a film there sometime. You will come running 
back to The Bridge with open arms.

-j. scott clinton


  
  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 6:32 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: SPAM SPAM -- Re: [UC] Arcade at 
  the Bridge (and art films)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
  
  
  I keep hoping that cinemagic will wake up and smell the starbucks and start 
  showing art films .. 
  
  I keep hoping that cinemagic will wake up and smell the cinemagic. The last 
  time I was there, it smelled like a locker room that hadn't been cleaned for 
  thirty years, but that ithad been doused with disinfectant yearly. 
  We went to a few flicks at the Bridge over the summer, Monday afternoons, 
  and they weren't too bad. But last spring when we saw Mel Gibson's "The 
  Passion" (shudder) the audiance behavior was attocious. There seemed to be 
  lots of church groups there on a Thursday afternoon, who obviously never 
  learned the two greatest commandments. Enough to give some of us more liberal 
  Christians a bad name. 
  I recall when we saw Spidey II, one of the other older audience members 
  complained about the loudness level of the soundtrack, and they turned it down 
  slightly. 
  
  Fred Wolfe
  


RE: [UC] Oil vs. Gas Heat

2004-11-12 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
Title: Message



Oil 
vs. Gas. talk about a battle of the titans.

Okay, 
to put in an oil heater you are going to have to also have a storage tank. 
That isn't an insignifigant cost, but the tank will probably last the rest of 
your life so at least it won't have to be done twice. The tank will also 
have to be vented (I think outside) and have a filler to the outside. 
You're going to want to put that tank in the front of your basement so that the 
oil filler truck can reach the filler neck with its hose.

Oil is 
the same thing as diesel fuel. it stinks. everything that comes in 
contact with it stinks. I drove a diesel car for years and got used to the 
stink but there's no denying it. If your heater is working 
properly,you will only smell the fuel when your tank is being filled or if 
someone is working on your furnace. just something to 
consider.

As far 
as the environment goes, I'd say it is about even. Gas burns very cleanly 
but so does heating oil when the burners are properly adjusted. The 
problem is that traditionally, oil burners go out of adjustment quite often and 
start burning rich. This means that too much fuel is being introduced to 
the fuel/air mixture and you are loosing efficiency because not all the fuel is 
being consumed in combustion. The excess winds up as deposits in your 
furnace and exhaust. In my oppinion, this is a good reason not to switch 
to oil. I should point out that oil burners have gotten much better in 
recent years and are supposedly less prone to clogging. I personally 
believe that the quality of the fuel oil goes a long way to keeping a oil burner 
at peak efficiency but it is hard to tell the quality of the oil that you are 
buying.

as a 
FYI, gas (as in natural gas, the fuel that we're discussing here) isn't the same 
thing as gasoline. Gasoline is refined oil, but natural gas is a mix of 
Methane (90%)and Propane, Butane and Ethane (along with a few other trace 
gasses). Natural gas is not refined from oil, although it is a fossil fuel 
and there is a finite supply in the world. Natural gas is odorless and 
lighter than air. Natural gas providers add an oderant so that we can 
quickly detect a leak and not flip on a lightswitch and blow our house to 
bits. One amusing fact is that methane is the same gas that comes out of 
our backsides after certain meals. One could solve the worlds energy needs 
if they could develop a way of harvesting this inexhaustable source of 
fuel!

Maintanance: There are a lot of oil and a lot of 
gas burning furnaces in the area. I'd say that there is no difference in 
the maintainability of either.

Don't 
knock PGW too hard. While it certainly has it's problems, it is run (in 
theory) for the benefit of the citizens of the city of Philadelphia, not to make 
a profit. The main problems that PGW has are that it can only sell gas 
inside the city of Philadelphia and many of it's customers cannot afford to pay 
their heating bills. This is an expense that the city winds up having to 
absorb one way or another. PGW is also loosing almost all of its 
industrial customers to the suburbs and those folks pay a higher rate for their 
gas bills than we do. This hurts PGW even more than the loss of 
residential customers.

PGW 
needs to improve, but my main complaints about them are administrative. 
They need to update their records, billing and payment systems, they need to 
improve customer service and they need to cut back on the number of employees 
they have to get these administrative functions done. In this they can 
learn from the private sector but I don't believe in privitizing PGW any more 
than I believe in privatizing the water works. The city is fortunate to 
own both of these utilities (some cities don't own their utilities to the 
detriment of their citizens) but, as with most city government there is too much 
fat in PGW and what could be a benifit is seen by many as a 
detriment.

As far 
as those of us right here in the west philly go, I believe that we pay 
lower rates than the folks who have to buy their natural gas from PECO out in 
the 'burbs.

And 
that's the end of my oil vs. gas essay for the day. I will advise you 
tobuy the most efficient furnace you can; the labour to put it in will be 
the same for both and the more efficient furnace will save you money over it's 
useful life (30+ years) and pay for the difference in only a few years 
time. I put in a 95+% efficient multistage Trane furnace and would 
reccomend the same to anyone.


  
  -Original Message-From: Naomi 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:09 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [UC] Oil 
  vs. Gas HeatI am in the process of purchasing a UC house that 
  needs the 50 year-old gas heater replaced. We are considering switching to oil 
  - or some other way to heat that does not rely on a monopoly like PGW - and 
  wanted to solicit opinions. (Has anyone done this recently? Any success or 
  horror stories?)We 

[UC] Electric Heat

2004-11-12 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
Title: Message



Or in 
a slightly more polite way:

Yes, 
you can buy electric resistance heating for your home. Generally you can 
buy electric baseboard radient heaters very inexpensively. You will, 
however, find that the cost per kW/h is extremely high 
when compared with fosil fuels. Electric radient heat is popular in places 
like southern Florida where it doesn't really get that cold that often and the 
cost of installing it is much lower than a hot air or hot water 
system.

For us 
here in Philadelphia, "fugetaboutit".

-j. 
scott clinton


  
  -Original Message-From: Jonathan Cass 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 3:04 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: SPAM SPAM -- [UC] 
  Electric Heat: A Heating System for the Insane
  All-electric heating for a home? Have you lost your 
  mind?
  
  
  Jonathan A. Cass Silverman, Bernheim  Vogel Two Penn Center Plaza, Suite 910 Philadelphia, PA 19102 Tel: 215-636-4435 Fax: 215-636-3999 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  This electronic message contains information 
  from the law firm of Silverman Bernheim  Vogel which may be confidential 
  or privileged. This information is intended for the use of the 
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-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
Behalf Of Mario GiornoSent: Friday, November 12, 2004 2:40 
PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'Naomi'Cc: 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [UC] Oil vs. Gas 
Heat
Does anyone on the list know if there is an all-electric 
heating system for homes? 
Mario Giorno 
-Original Message- From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:51 PM 
To: Naomi Cc: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] Oil vs. 
Gas Heat 
I suggest you go to: www.heatinghelp.com and click on "the 
wall" where you can post your question. This site is frequented by some very 
bright heating experts. I have gotten some priceless advice from them re: my 
old steam system.
Wes LaBlanc 
-- Original message from Naomi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- 
I am in the process of purchasing a UC house that needs the 
50 year-old gas heater replaced. We are considering switching to oil - or 
some other way to heat that does not rely on a monopoly like PGW - and 
wanted to solicit opinions. (Has anyone done this recently? Any success or 
horror stories?)
We have a few factors that we are basing our decision 
on: 
The Environment - Which has more of 
an impact? (Our initial thought was that gas was cleaner but I'm guessing 
that gas and oil come from the same base ingredient and I have no idea what 
is involved on the back end to turn it into gas.) Are there any other 
realistic alternatives?
Cost - We're not wealthy. And the 
house needs a lot of additional work right away. Both the conversion/upgrade 
and the long term use need to be competitively priced.
Convenience  Ease of use - Is 
it relatively easy to maintain? When there is a problem, will people 
actually come to fix it?  
Any and all opinions appreciated. (And if I missed any big 
factors, feel free to let me know what I haven't considered yet.)
Thanks. 
Naomi 
White Dog 
Cafe 
3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 
19104 
http://www.whitedog.com 
(215) 386-9224 
x105 

The Black Cat Gift Shop 3426 Sansom 
St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 http://www.blackcatshop.com 
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RE: [UC] Electric Heat

2004-11-12 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
Title: Message



the 
unit you are refering to is a Heat Pump. Again, they are generally not 
optimal for this climate and most in this climate will also have electric 
resistance heat to "boost" the output.

  
  -Original Message-From: Mario Giorno 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:19 
  PMTo: 'Clinton, J. Scott'; 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [UC] Electric 
  Heat
  Clinton,
  
   I've seen units that are fastened to walls that kick out 
  both hot and cool air. They seem to have pipe work that goes to a machine 
  outside of a house or building and is actively converting the air. It was 
  referred to as, and forgive my lack of proper jargon, a 
  mini-something-or-other. The convector unit outside the house looked like it 
  was using freon like a window air conditioner and was electric powered. Have 
  you seen or heard of these machines?
  
  
  Mario "Thinking Green" Giorno
  

-Original Message-From: Clinton, J. 
Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 
3:54 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [UC] 
Electric Heat
Or 
in a slightly more polite way:

Yes, you can buy electric resistance heating for 
your home. Generally you can buy electric baseboard radient heaters 
very inexpensively. You will, however, find that the cost per kW/h is 
extremely high when compared with fosil 
fuels. Electric radient heat is popular in places like southern 
Florida where it doesn't really get that cold that often and the cost of 
installing it is much lower than a hot air or hot water 
system.

For us here in Philadelphia, 
"fugetaboutit".

-j. scott clinton


  
  -Original Message-From: Jonathan 
  Cass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 
  3:04 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: SPAM 
  SPAM -- [UC] Electric Heat: A Heating System for the 
  Insane
  All-electric heating for a home? Have you lost your 
  mind?
  
  
  Jonathan A. Cass Silverman, Bernheim  Vogel Two Penn Center Plaza, Suite 910 Philadelphia, PA 19102 Tel: 215-636-4435 Fax: 215-636-3999 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Mario 
GiornoSent: Friday, November 12, 2004 2:40 PMTo: 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'Naomi'Cc: 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [UC] Oil vs. Gas 
Heat
Does anyone on the list know if there is an all-electric 
heating system for homes? 
Mario Giorno 
-Original Message- From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:51 PM To: Naomi Cc: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] Oil 
vs. Gas Heat 
I suggest you go to: www.heatinghelp.com and click on 
"the wall" where you can post your question. This site is frequented by 
some very bright heating experts. I have gotten some priceless advice 
from them re: my old steam system.
Wes LaBlanc 
-- Original message from Naomi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- 
I am in the process of purchasing a UC house that needs 
the 50 year-old gas heater replaced. We are considering switching to oil 
- or some other way to heat that does not rely on a monopoly like PGW - 
and wanted to solicit opinions. (Has anyone done this recently? Any 
success or horror stories?)
We have a few factors that we are basing our decision 
on: 
The Environment - Which has more 
of an impact? (Our initial thought was that gas was cleaner but I'm 
guessing that gas and oil come from the same base ingredient and I have 
no idea what is involved on the back end to turn it into gas.) Are there 
any other realistic alternatives?
Cost - We're not wealthy. And 
the house needs a lot of additional work right away. Both the 
conversion/upgrade and the long term use need to be competitively 
priced.
Convenience  Ease of use - 
Is it relatively easy to maintain? When there is a problem, will people 
actually come to fix it?  
Any and all op

RE: [UC] Bush Victory

2004-11-03 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
I'm not exactly sure how this all relates to west philly, but I suppose that
the election is the most newsworthy topic of discussion for most people; all
of the lists I subscribe to are temporarially election discussion lists.

So here's my plea.  Try not to blame the outcome of the election on
moralists or religious whackos or whatever.  I'm not sure that is where this
discussion is going, but it sure did on other lists and so I'd like to try
and prevent that here.

I'm not a member of a political party because I don't see that either group
represents my interests very well.  I toss my tiny bit of support one way or
another depending on the election.  I am also a Christian, though I
certainly don't identify with the conservative Christian ideology.  The
problem is, the Democrats can't seem to put a candidate on the ticket that I
can wholehartedly support.

Folks like me are tired of being told who we must vote for because of our
faith when neither group really takes positions that we hold as important.
There are lots of other progressive Christians out there, but they need to
be courted and split away from the religious right.  This would take a
mighty chunk from the Republican base of support.  I don't think the
Democrats are going to do this though, because to court these people, they
run the risk of turning off some of the more liberal elements of their
support.

So maybe someone out there has an idea how to organize the Religious Left
to help counter the Religious Right or what that might look like.  I truly
feel for folks (in Ohio and elsewhere) who may have wanted to vote for John
Kerry but couldn't quite do it because the national discussion of religious
values was given up to the conservatives and nobody really talked about the
flaws in the theology of just wars, the inconsistancy of being anti-abortion
and pro-death pentalty, the invasion of foreign lands flying in the face of
Christs' call to turn the other cheek, etcetera, etcetera.

My $.02 for what it is worth.

To read what someone who really knows how to write said about some of this,
there is a statement put together by some theologeans at Fuller Seminary at:
http://www.fullerseminary.net/sot/faculty/stassen/Resource_files/confessingc
hrist.pdf

-j. scott clinton

-Original Message-
From: Wilma de Soto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM
To: Mark Krull; Jonathan Cass; UnivCity listserv
Subject: Re: [UC] Bush Victory


Yes, it certainly is.  Moreover, the Heartland which decides the course of
this country is the least likely place where a terrorist attack will occur.

They are prone to attack major metropolitan areas large, financial districts
or seats of national government; namely the Eastern Seaboard and West Coats
which went heavily for Kerry.

Anyway, he was duly elected and we have to respect that we live in a
different country from The Heartland.  Fortunately, we are exposed to many
more things and have a larger point of view that they do not see.

I went to college in Ohio and I know whereof I speak.


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 Its depressing really. It was values that led to this.
 
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 Subject: [UC] Bush Victory
 
 The only silver lining I can see is that Bush is going have to deal 
 with the mess that he created in Iraq and the next terrorist attack 
 that will likely occur on his watch.
 
 I don't even want to think about what is going to happen with the 
 Supreme Court.
 
 I think I am going to puke.
 
 Jonathan A. Cass
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 I will be out of the office starting  11/02/2004 and will not return 
 until 11/05/2004.
 
 I will reply to your email upon my return.
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[UC] Lupus Foundation Walk

2004-10-29 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
Title: Message



Dear friends and 
neighbors,

In August our family 
lost a very dear friend to a disease known as Lupus. I don't know all the 
particulars about the condition but all of my memories of Nathan include his 
daily struggles with the disease that he knew would ultimately take his 
life.

I'm telling all of 
you about this because my family is participating in the "Lupus Loop" on 
Haloween morning to honor the memory of our friend and to try and raise some 
funds to help folks who still struggle with the disease.

If any of you on 
this list feel moved to sponsor us (even small amounts are desired!), please 
contact me privately to let me know. I can be reached off list at jscott 
(at) circleofhope (dot) net or you can call me at 726.7555. If not, then 
I'm sorry to have troubled you.

http://www.lupus-sepa.org/loop04.html

-j. scott 
clinton
48th  
Beaumont


RE: [UC] replacing storm windows-- triple-track

2004-10-20 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
I don't have any specific reccomendations for you but that really isn't the
hardest job; the real trick is getting a window that looks nice on your
house and fits your windows.  Because of the sizes of the windows on a lot
of our homes, you may very well have to get custom windows.  Installing the
correctly sized storm windows isn't really much harder than turning a
screw-driver and sealing around the edges of the window with some sort of
caulk.

A contractor has the same problems getting windows to fit your home but will
charge you more for them (markup) and will, of course, want some money for
his labor installing them.  If you can do this job yourself, you will save
labor costs and may be able to get the windows for a similar price, if not
less.  You may want to consider taking all or some of this money that you
would save and investing in more expensive windows which may suit the
character of your house better and will probably last longer.  This, of
course, is up to you, but windows drastically affect the look of a building.

Check out the library; I'm sure that they have a straightforward home repair
and improvement book that will cover this type of job in simple terms.

Good luck!
-j. scott clinton

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From: Sarah Scheckter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:57 AM
To: Sarah Scheckter
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Subject:  [UC] replacing storm windows-- triple-track


hi,

it's that time of year again--i'm looking for someone who can do a good job
replacing old storm windows with 'triple-track' ones. has anyone had good
experiences with a contractor who does this?

thanks,
sarah


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RE: [UC] keeping the water out.

2004-10-19 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
Title: Message



I 
typed it wrong! try 267-252-3890.

  
  -Original Message-From: Dan Myers 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 6:01 
  PMTo: Clinton, J. ScottSubject: Re: [UC] keeping the 
  water out.
  great story, and we've been trying to get a hold 
  of a roofer to do some gutter work for the last 3 weeks and haven't even got a 
  curtousy call back...how rude. I tried calling the number you listed, but it 
  says it's out of service. Is there another number you have so that I may a 
  similar experience.
  
  Dan Myers215.901.0899Certified Massage 
  Practitioner
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Clinton, J. 
Scott 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 2:23 
PM
Subject: [UC] keeping the water 
out.

In keeping with 
kyles story of his oven repair, I have a similar positive story to tell 
about my roofer. I had polled this list back in the spring looking for 
someone who would do a good job with my leaky roof over my bay window and 
was rewarded with several names.

I chose to get 
the work done by Richard Marks who was very flexable and communicative and 
didn't try to sell me something that I didn't want. The price he 
quoted me was _way_ below some of the big roofing firms that I had out to 
look at the roof.

He ripped up the 
90lb roll-roofing that had been used to cover what may have been the 
original tin roof and replaced it, the gutters and the flashing with 16oz 
soldered copper. It looks great. Becauseof a process that 
engineers refer to as "dis-similar metal corrosion" and others refer to 
as"galvanic action" he had to electrically isolate 
thecopperrooffrom the decorative iron railing that is 
mounted to it; something that some of the other roofers I spoke with could 
not understand the need for.

During his work 
he found that some previous owner of the house had poured pitch on the 
slates trying to seal some leak or other and that the slates had badly 
decomposed and many would have to be replaced. He couldn't replace the 
flashing that had corroded without breaking many of these slates. This 
caused the price to go up, but only by the cost to him of the materials 
involved. I was extremely happy as I love having a slate roof, not 
only for asthetics, (fire insurance discount!), and am always sad to see 
somebody replacing their slate with some other material. If you have a 
slate roof and are considering abandoning it because of the astronomical 
costs of hiring one of the "historic roof specialists" in the area, try 
giving Richard a call. (267-292-3890).

I now have a 
roof that, baring a severe impact by something heavy, should outlast my 
children.



J. Scott Clinton
Mechanical Engineer
MSSC Company
1200 East Mermaid Lane
Wyndmoor, PA 19038
(v) 215.242.7212
(f) 215.233.9768
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




[UC] keeping the water out.

2004-10-18 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
Title: Message



In keeping with 
kyles story of his oven repair, I have a similar positive story to tell about my 
roofer. I had polled this list back in the spring looking for someone who 
would do a good job with my leaky roof over my bay window and was rewarded with 
several names.

I chose to get the 
work done by Richard Marks who was very flexable and communicative and didn't 
try to sell me something that I didn't want. The price he quoted me was 
_way_ below some of the big roofing firms that I had out to look at the 
roof.

He ripped up the 
90lb roll-roofing that had been used to cover what may have been the original 
tin roof and replaced it, the gutters and the flashing with 16oz soldered 
copper. It looks great. Becauseof a process that engineers 
refer to as "dis-similar metal corrosion" and others refer to as"galvanic 
action" he had to electrically isolate thecopperrooffrom the 
decorative iron railing that is mounted to it; something that some of the other 
roofers I spoke with could not understand the need for.

During his work he 
found that some previous owner of the house had poured pitch on the slates 
trying to seal some leak or other and that the slates had badly decomposed and 
many would have to be replaced. He couldn't replace the flashing that had 
corroded without breaking many of these slates. This caused the price to 
go up, but only by the cost to him of the materials involved. I was 
extremely happy as I love having a slate roof, not only for asthetics, (fire 
insurance discount!), and am always sad to see somebody replacing their slate 
with some other material. If you have a slate roof and are considering 
abandoning it because of the astronomical costs of hiring one of the "historic 
roof specialists" in the area, try giving Richard a call. 
(267-292-3890).

I now have a roof 
that, baring a severe impact by something heavy, should outlast my 
children.



J. Scott Clinton
Mechanical Engineer
MSSC Company
1200 East Mermaid Lane
Wyndmoor, PA 19038
(v) 215.242.7212
(f) 215.233.9768
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: [UC] Re: Trolley service

2004-10-18 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
They are indeed destined for the rt15.  The cars were supposed to be running
already but because of some confusion with the track to and from their depot
at 59th and Callowhill, they are sitting idle.

The short reason that SEPTA spent something like $2mil/vehicle and they are
now sitting idle is that there is not enough room on 59th street for 2 way
traffic, a parking lane and the trolleys.

Who is at fault can vary by who you ask.

SEPTA informed the city that 59th street would have to be one way shortly
before the service was to begin in June.

The neighbors have various complaints about living near Callowhill depot and
feel that since 59th street has always been a 2 way street, there should be
another way of allowing the trolleys to access the depot.  They also contend
that SEPTAs community relation person for this project never mentioned that
they would have to deal with their street being made one way.

SEPTA is fine doing nothing.  Nobody ever holds them accountable anyway.

So the upshot is that Saturday is the first time that the rebuilt old cars
ran with passengers, even if they weren't paying passengers.

Now I have a question for folks that rode the trolleys; what did you think?
Which trolleys do you like better, the rebuilt 1947 ones, or the big, white
japanese cars that we are all used to?

My oppinion?  I like the look of the green cars on the outside better; the
white always looks dirty and the modern trolleys have all the grace of a
cinderblock.  Once inside the trolley, however, I think I liked the modern
ones.  The windows are much larger (giving a nice view of the neighborhood)
and they seemed bigger to me.  On the other hand, the renovated cars had the
old-school interior lights that were pretty classy.

As a point of interest, SEPTA has an option they can exercise to rebuild 8
more trolleys like this.  I'd love to see this, especially if they were to
run the streetcar loop that I read about on the UCHS website.
(http://www.uchs.net/Streetcars/trolleyloop.html)

-j. scott clinton


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Diller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 3:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UC] Re: Trolley service


I think they are all destined for Girard ave, which is sad. I wish they 
would run here in west philly.

http://www.phillytrolley.org/girardavenue.html

-andy diller


On Oct 18, 2004, at 3:32 PM, Hispanic Review wrote:


 Dear Neighbors,

 My question is, what was it the likelihood that we may be able to ride
 these cars again in the future?  Does anyone on the list have any 
 information on the renovated trolley cars and their future?



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[UC] RE: SPAM SPAM -- re: [uc] re: [uc] university city presents trol ley day, where 1938 meets today on the tracks

2004-10-07 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
When SEPTA replaced the PCC cars, many of them were sold around the 
world, most notably to San Francisco. Their success is what prompted 
SEPTA to spend money to referb the remaining PCC cars in their fleet 
instead of just letting them continue to rust.

Actually, it wasn't the success of the trolleys in SanFran that got SEPTA to
rebuild the 15 and the PCCs, it was pressure from the city, and I believe
Mayor Rendells threat to re-evaluate (read reduce) the subsidy that the
city pays SEPTA if SEPTA didn't follow through with their promise to return
trolleys to at least one of the three temporary suspended lines (15, 23 
56).  

I do hope that everyone in the neighborhood who can comes out to ride the
trolleys.  If a regular circulator ran through the neighborhood linking us
with Powelton and the stores along Walnut street, and the fare on the
circulator could be kept below a dollar, I believe that ridership would be
off the charts.

Of course, someone has to figure out how to pay for such a service.

UCHS has a link for a proposal
(http://www.uchs.net/Streetcars/trolleyloop.html) that was made some years
ago now for a west philadelphia circulator that would require very little
new track but has, of course, gone nowhere because of a lack of dollars.

It would be nice to see some of the larger stakeholders in the neighborhood
would collectively put up some dollars to fund something like this on a
regular basis.  40th  market is becoming quite a zoo trafficwise and it
would be nice to have regular, inexpensive transportation that could whisk
one away from that mess back to the more residential areas.

Portland, OR has an area that they call the Fareless square (a big square
area on the map) where there are no fares charged at all.  The idea is to
circulate people through the CBD and discourage car use.  It works very well
and people use public transport more. Those people pay fares when traveling
farther out and become regular transit riders.  We need a similar system
here in Philadelpia.  Since we're apparently the smart side of the city
now, why can't we have some smart transportation?  How many of us would ride
a trolley from, say, 50th  B-more to 40th  Walnut if it only cost $.50?
How many would ride if it cost a token ($1.30) or full SEPTA fare ($2)?
Quite honestly, I don't think a ride that short is worth $2 and I'm a big
public transportation supporter!

-j. scott clinton

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[UC] RE: SPAM SPAM -- [uc] re: medallion signature guarantee

2004-09-20 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
A medallion  signature guarantee is something that was developed to make
some money for someone.  It is essentially the same thing as a notary, only
different.  I've had to obtain one to transfer securities various times.

Fleet bank (now bank of america) tends to have a person who can provide this
service and it is free if you keep money in their bank.  It is wise to call
around and make sure that branch actually has such a person and that they
will be in on the day that you want to get the medallion 'cause they
sometimes work at different branches on different days.

-jsc


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From: William H. Magill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 5:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: SPAM SPAM -- [uc] re: medallion signature guarantee



On 17 Sep, 2004, at 16:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know a local financial institution that provides this
 service?

Ok, I give up. That's a term I've never heard before

... What is a Medallion signature guarantee?

Are you talking about a Notarized signature, or are you talking about 
the kind of guarantee required for a financial (Securities) 
transaction?

If you are talking about the former, then there are Notaries all over 
the place. (40th and Chestnut NW corner comes immediately to mind.)

If you are talking about the latter, you need to be a customer of 
that institution. To the best of my knowledge, no financial institution 
will provide a signature guarantee to anyone simply walking in off the 
street ... especially is there is any amount in excess of $1,000 
involved -- there are all kinds of Federal reporting requirements now 
in effect for any kind of cash financial transaction.


T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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RE: [UC] SEPTA

2004-09-16 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
Hmmm.  I heard SEPTA was Screwing Everyone in Philadelphia Time  Again.

Philadelphia has a weird relationship with its public transportation
provider which is a semi-governmental agency that is accountable to nobody.
The board of directors is nominated by the counties, the state house
majority and minoritiy leaders, the state senate majority and minority
leaders and finally the governor and so even in the most favorable of times
(like now with Rendell in Hbrg) the city has a minority say in the operation
of SEPTA even though in excess of 80% of the ridership is in the city.

Here's the formula:
2 - Philadelphia
8 - surrounding counties
5 - State.

Philadelphia does get veto power, however.  They haven't used it much.
Perhaps they ought to more, but generally service is cut back which hurts us
in the city more than our suburban neighbors because the city relies on it
more.

SEPTA is funded by a combination of federal, state and local subsidies as
well as whatever farebox revenue they generate.

The state revenue really ought to be part of the gasoline tax but there is a
constitutional amendment preventing this.  Amazing, that.  So the state has
cobbled together all sorts of other revenue streams to direct at public
transportation (not just SEPTA, there are many organizations all over PA)
which has its own formula.  SEPTA gets the biggest piece of this pie, with
Pittsburg second and several regional transit authorities getting equal
shares further down the scale.  This share has shrunk over the years because
some of the sources of funding didn't work out.  An example was a surcharge
on electricity that shrank after de-regulation.

The federal share is the next biggest chunk, I think.  That has remained
unchanged for years even though the cost of providing transportation has
risen.  The current leadership in DC are not interested in funding mass
transit.  That is why Amtrak is about to go belly up, even with its
ridership at its all-time high.

Next comes the share that our fair city puts in.  Rendell threatened to cut
the city share in '97 when SEPTA was raising the fares unless they restored
one of the three suspended trolley routes that were discontinued in 1992.
The restoration of the rt 15 was the result of this.  The city also owns the
Broad Street Subway, the trains on the BSS, trackless trolley routes 75 and
66 (in the northeast) and, I believe, the Frankford El side of the
Market-Frankford line.  The city also is the owner of some percentage of the
regional rail cars, though those trains are pretty old now and may have been
completely depreciated.

Then the counties have to put up some dollars.  Combined, their total may
equal more than the city, but I don't think so.  They aren't really well set
up for efficent mass transportation anyway.  There's plenty of squabling
amongst the counties, too as they compete for some of the transportation
pie.

Finally there is farebox revenue.  This used to be a wild card because as
SEPTA raised fares, fewer people would ride.  Now SEPTA has cut away almost
all of their discresionary ridership and so what is left are the carless.
Generally these folks are poor and they don't vote regularly so their wants
and needs are constantly washed aside.  It does make guessing SEPTAs revenue
easier, however, because most of the folks who are left will stick with it
simply because they have no good alternatives.

Nobody really holds management at SEPTA responsible for much of anything and
so things just kind of keep on keeping on.  To their credit, they have
managed to squeeze operating dollars out fairly well but have screwed up
pretty big on several capital investment projects as well as planning things
like a rail line to Reading.  The labor side isn't blameless, either with
some well publicized stories such as the worker who rigged up a device in
the Powelton train yard that would wake him if anyone approached so that he
could get some Zzzs on the job.

Public transportation isn't really that sexy.  Nobody really wants to talk
about it and nobody really wants to think about it.  You aren't going to get
the bright young management types eager to join up some kind of mess like
that because they can get paid more and appreciated more at any private firm
in the world.  The city, however, relies on public transit.  Imagine if
SEPTA really did shut down!  Everyone in the city would buy a car, and there
isn't that much room for them all.  All the arguments on this list about who
parks where would seem like a plesant dream if there were four times the
number of cars out on the road!

John Street was quoted in the inquirer as saying I don't think Philadelphia
gets a good return on its investment when refering to the subsidy that it
gives SEPTA.  That was one of the most impressive things I've heard from him
since the election.  I'm starting to think that Philadelphia needs to secede
from SEPTA and run the service the way it sees fit.  We would still have the
largest transportation 

[UC] RE: [uc] rethinking outdoor security lighting people

2004-09-10 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
'back in the day' when I lived at 46th near Spruce, I would often get off
the El at 46th at night.  I never thought twice about it until one day I
noticed as I was cutting across the parking lot on Farragut north of
Chestnut that there was a man following me and catching up rather quickly.
I quickened my pace and changed direction, towards the Texaco just below
Chestnut.  He matched my actions.

I'm not used to anybody trying things with me.  I'm 6'3 and ~230# which
gives me a different perspective on sketchy areas than someone who was say
5'1 and 100#.

So anyway, I darted across a mostly empty Chestnut street (it was 'round
about midnight this fine winter evening) and walked into the Texaco store
with the mystey follower after me.  He looked very surprised and uncertain
as he tried to decide whether to follow me into the store or not.
Eventually he turned away from the door and I was running out the door on
the other side and sprinting for 46th street and home.  I felt a lot more
comfortable when I reached Walnut street which isn't really much lighter but
certainly has more of a chance of people being out and about throwing
garbage onto Kyles lawn or cursing at each other near the Watusi Pub.  I
believe Jane Jacobs refers to this as eyes on the street.

Anyway, I started to take the 21 bus at night after that experience.  It was
a little slower, but I felt a lot more comfortable getting off on 46th and
Walnut instead of 46th and Market.  The amount of light was never an issue
for me; I was more interested in having as many fellow citizens around me as
possible.

I now live near 48th and Baltimore.  It is dark and residential but there
are people wondering around and I have never felt even a little nervous
there.  I know people are breaking into cars right around the corner but
most of the time there are folks coming out of bars or perhaps even going to
some event at Calvary that doesn't make me worry about my personal
well-being.

Just my $.02.
-scott


Well, as I said in the post that the problem I have personally w/the 
Farragut Street El stop is multifactorial, and stems mainly from the fact 
that the area is A) desolate, meaning there aren't many stores open at night

and no restaurants or anything like that and B) that it is poorly lit. I 
personally have very, very poor night vision (as a result of having very 
poor regular vision---in ophthalmologic circles it is called high myopia),

so yes, I have to say that I personally like to have light.

And yes, if there were nice businesses that kept a fairly good clientele 
into the evening, I might feel differently. But what to businesses like that

usually bring with them? Light.



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Subject: Re: [UC] Rethinking Outdoor Security Lighting  People
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 15:37:25 EDT


In a message dated 9/10/2004 10:00:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

walking*?
...For this reason, I will not take the El to 46th Street alone if it's 
late and dark, because the area around there is very, VERY poorly lit. 
The desolation (lack of open stores, etc) contributes, but the main 
problem for me is the lighting.



If there was a greater level of civil night life or the knowledge there 
was no drinkin, druggin, gamblin, n sex, how much more 
comfortable/confident would
  you be alone?

Thanks,

Craig

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[UC] roofing

2004-07-13 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
Title: Message



Yesterdays rains 
found the weakest part of our roof and began leaking into our home. Does 
anyone on this list have a good recomendation for a roofer who can lay a 
flat-seamed copper roof on a bay window flat roof? I had previously talked 
with Russel Roofing who came out and looked at things, but they seem to be 
uninterested in doing any roofing on my house as evidanced by their refusal to 
send me a quote or return any of my calls.

Thanks in 
advance!

J. Scott Clinton
Mechanical Engineer
MSSC Company
1200 East Mermaid Lane
Wyndmoor, PA 19038
(v) 215.242.7212
(f) 215.233.9768
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[UC] Christmas Trees

2003-11-26 Thread Clinton, J. Scott
So we're going to get a Chrstmas tree this year.  A real one, that is.  I
never really bothered before, but last year while in exile in center city,
my wife and I walked down to the neighborhood church where the boy scouts
were selling trees and bought one.  Is there a place in our new neighborhood
that sells trees and wreaths and whatnot like that?

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