Re: [UC] DP: no police misconduct in local gunfight

2007-10-31 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN

Mariellen Smith wrote:
Yeah it's probably the cops fault. I wish the police would stop stirring 
up all of this gun violence. What /were /they doing patrolling the 
streets, anyway? I smell a conspiracy.




Mike VanHelder wrote:
Since only a psychic can answer whether or not the police were a 
precipitating factor, Al, I can only assume that it's your intention 
to launch sly insinuations and attack the public's trust in our police 
forces under the guise of speaking for the community.  Your 
opposition to the NID I can understand, though I think it's selfish 
and disingenuous, but what beef do you have with the cops, and why 
can't you just come out and attack them openly instead of 
peck-peck-pecking at them like an underhanded vulture?




Al Krigman wrote:
The question still remains... why were all the cops there anyway,
who deployed them, and was their very presence a precipitating factor?




apparently, there are psychics all over this case.

according to the daily news:

   Police foresight was credited with containing the
   situation, which [Lt.] Vanore said could have been much
   worse if the original detail of 10 officers had not been
   stationed outside of the club.

   Fortunately, our officer was OK and the situation ended
   up being not as serious as it could of [sic] been,
   McNesby said.


according to the dp:

   [Sgt.] Coan said there were no reports of an argument or
   fight inside the club before the shooting began.

   Vice President for Public Safety Maureen Rush said the
   incident was indicative of a larger problem Philadelphia
   has with violence at its nightclubs. It is just another
   example of how easy it is for people to have guns and how
   quickly an argument in a nightclub can escalate, she
   said.



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[UC] DP: no police misconduct in local gunfight

2007-10-30 Thread Krfapt
 
Shooting at 38th and Chestnut: Evidence points to no police  misconduct in 
local gunfight

Katie Karas  


Philadelphia Police officials are not investigating  possible police 
misconduct in the death of Lamar Bembry because they have  evidence showing 
that 
Bembry, who was shot and killed by police during a gun  battle early Sunday 
morning 
at 38th and Chestnut streets, was among one of the  shooters on the scene, 
said Lt. Frank Vanore of Philadelphia Police Public  Affairs.

Bembry allegedly opened fire while leaving the Koko Bongo  nightclub at 38th 
and Chestnut at about 2:00 a.m. and was shot in the chest by  police in the 
ensuing gunfight.

Vanore said ballistic evidence revealed  that police officers acted correctly 
in firing at Bembry. It also showed that  there were at least two other 
shooters who participated in the gunfight,  although no weapons from these 
shooters 
have been recovered.

Philadelphia  Police were already on the scene when the shooting began 
because there had been  a few minor instances last week when Koko Bongo let 
out, 
Vanore said.  

Police temporarily detained a few suspects but have not yet charged  anyone. 
They urge anyone with information regarding the shootings to contact  
Philadelphia Police at 215-686-1776.   

   

 
The question still remains... why were all  the cops there anyway, who 
deployed them, and was their very presence a  precipitating factor?
 
Enquiring minds want to know
 
Al  Krigman





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Re: [UC] DP: no police misconduct in local gunfight

2007-10-30 Thread Mike VanHelder
Since only a psychic can answer whether or not the police were a
precipitating factor, Al, I can only assume that it's your intention to
launch sly insinuations and attack the public's trust in our police forces
under the guise of speaking for the community.  Your opposition to the NID
I can understand, though I think it's selfish and disingenuous, but what
beef do you have with the cops, and why can't you just come out and attack
them openly instead of peck-peck-pecking at them like an underhanded
vulture?

- Mike V.

On 10/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 *The question still remains... why were all the cops there anyway, who
 deployed them, and was their very presence a precipitating factor?*
 **
 *Enquiring minds want to know*
 **
 *Al Krigman*



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Re: [UC] DP: no police misconduct in local gunfight

2007-10-30 Thread Mariellen Smith
Yeah it's probably the cops fault. I wish the police would stop stirring up 
all of this gun violence. What were they doing patrolling the streets, 
anyway? I smell a conspiracy.

-Mariellen

At 11:32 AM 10/30/2007, Mike VanHelder wrote:
Since only a psychic can answer whether or not the police were a 
precipitating factor, Al, I can only assume that it's your intention to 
launch sly insinuations and attack the public's trust in our police forces 
under the guise of speaking for the community.  Your opposition to the 
NID I can understand, though I think it's selfish and disingenuous, but 
what beef do you have with the cops, and why can't you just come out and 
attack them openly instead of peck-peck-pecking at them like an 
underhanded vulture?


- Mike V.

On 10/30/07, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The question still remains... why were all the cops there anyway, who 
deployed them, and was their very presence a precipitating factor?


Enquiring minds want to know

Al Krigman




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