Re: [UC] Ear candle wax removal treatment
Ok, I'll admit a few things: Ear candling is NOT for everyone and there are people out there doing it that are not qualified to do it. (just as I am not qualified to do open heart surgery or balance the budget) I have not tried doing it in a glass of water and I am very intrigued in doing so. Out of the several procedures that I have seen done (mostly in a spa- hence where the beauty comes in), the gunk did not look like it was part of the candle. There were different colors of gunk from an unbleached funnel. As far as earwax goes in general? I think it's disgusting. I rely on my ears to hear when I sing, so I remove my wax the old fashioned way-- with a Q-tip. Now, I know the dangers of going in too far, as my ex-girlfriend almost had her head explode as she pushed the wax deep into her canal and caused a blockage, which caused a lot of swelling. But I don't believe ALL that wax is needed to be there. (same goes for snot!) When I had my procedure done, I did not have much because I take care of my ears. But as I saw the remnants of another employee (who says she has multiple ear infections) I almost puked at the sight of what was in the cone. As far a the procedure itself, I can see why people are afraid of it, or why they don't see a benefit from the service, as I don't think I did. Most doctors do not like homeopathic remedies because they work for the insurance companies. As far as safety-yes, it's a flame, but it's a foot from your ear! Ok, end rantno more about ears and candles. :) Dan Myers On 1/29/07, Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps some folks had more than one problem. In that case the sum would be different. My doctor's have told me to leave my ear wax alone unless it's causing some kind of problem. It's supposed to be there. That seems sensible to me. How does this procedure relate to beauty? Do we have any statistics on the number of ear candlers who are addicted to drugs or alcohol, or massage therapists, or any other profession? Without a comparison, those statistics are meaningless. Since you're such a stickler for real numbers, how many is most states? Do those states have similar programs for other licensed professionals or are dentists particularly vulnerable to addiction? I have slipped on many sidewalks, including my own. I wasn't hurt in any way I remember. I did not sue but then I'm not that kind of guy. Frank On Jan 29, 2007, at 04:16 PM, Dan Myers wrote: Then the article continues with at least 14 hurt. What does that mean-- oh wait a minute the following sentence explains it: 13 cases of external burns, 7cases of ear canal obstruction with candle wax, and 1 perforated eardrum. I'm no mathematician, but I thought 13+7+1 equaled 21? Or do they not count ear obstruction as hurt? At least they say (in so many words) that about 10% of the people surveyed got hurt. What can they say about that when more people can get hurt going to the dentist?! Or walking outside on slippery unshovelled neighbors sidewalks? -- to the power of breathing, Dan Myers Intuitive Masseur 215.901.0899 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Ear candle wax removal treatment
Yes, it's called ear candling. And I have had this treatment before. It has been known to clear a lot of gunk (technical term) out of the ear. For more information on this exciting treatment of beauty and health go to: http://www.colonhealth.net/ear_candling/candling.htm Dan Myers You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Ear candle wax removal treatment
Lew, The Mariposa Co-Op has sold ear candling for many years, probably almost as many years as they have been open. That method is a long-time alternative health option. I prefer homeopathic ear drops. It has been suggested that the use of fire and a candle can be irritating to the membrane. Sande - Original Message - From: Lewis Mellmanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: UnivCity@list.purple.commailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:14 PM Subject: [UC] Ear candle wax removal treatment I just had the wildest ear job: they make this special candle that you stick in your ear and light on fire. Anybody else out there ever try it? Who wants to see how much wax came out? -Lew You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.htmlhttp://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Ear candle wax removal treatment
Sorry to ruin the fun? It's sounds like that quackwatch article was someone (albeit a doctor) who is a quack himself. It doesn't even sound like the doctor even had the procedure at all. With claims like a 144 person survey, come on who does a 144 person survey? Did 6 people get sick prior? Were the procedures all done by the same person? Did the technician doing the procedure have experience and training? I read that article and thought whoever wrote this had no idea what the procedure was about and only by someone very careless, can someone get hurt. (i.e. not watching the flame, sticking the candle in too far, etc) Then the article continues with at least 14 hurt. What does that mean-- oh wait a minute the following sentence explains it: 13 cases of external burns, 7cases of ear canal obstruction with candle wax, and 1 perforated eardrum. I'm no mathematician, but I thought 13+7+1 equaled 21? Or do they not count ear obstruction as hurt? At least they say (in so many words) that about 10% of the people surveyed got hurt. What can they say about that when more people can get hurt going to the dentist?! Or walking outside on slippery unshovelled neighbors sidewalks? As a side FYI: An estimated 15 to 18% of dentists are addicted to drugs or alcohol, and a 2002 study of the problem by the ADA had roughly 10% of dentists reporting they'd used illicit drugs in the past year. Not exactly a comforting thought with a drill stuck in your mouth, vibrating mere inches from your brain. To address the issue, most states have instituted programs where dentists can get treatment for addiction, temporarily surrendering their license to practice. That's obviously a good idea, but once again, the consumer is out of the loop: Dentists who submit to these programs do so with the promise of no public disclosure in most states. -taken from 10 Things Your dentist Won't Tell You And as for a survey on people who have gotten hurt on unshovelled neighbors sidewalks, alas, I could not find any article reporting. So, I ask the general public of this forum: 1. Have you ever slipped on a neighbors sidewalk? 2. Did you get hurt? 3. Did you sue? Please answer in order and to me privately so that I can tabulate the answers and not clutter this list with extra email. adTHANKSvance to all that respond (I hope I get at least 144 responses), Dan Myers On 1/29/07, SKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lew, The Mariposa Co-Op has sold ear candling for many years, probably almost as many years as they have been open. That method is a long-time alternative health option. I prefer homeopathic ear drops. It has been suggested that the use of fire and a candle can be irritating to the membrane. Sande - Original Message - From: Lewis Mellman To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:14 PM Subject: [UC] Ear candle wax removal treatment I just had the wildest ear job: they make this special candle that you stick in your ear and light on fire. Anybody else out there ever try it? Who wants to see how much wax came out? -Lew You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. -- to the power of breathing, Dan Myers Intuitive Masseur 215.901.0899 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Ear candle wax removal treatment - medical reporting
In a message dated 1/29/2007 4:18:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An estimated 15 to 18% of dentists are addicted to drugs or alcohol, and a 2002 study of the problem by the ADA had roughly 10% of dentists reporting they'd used illicit drugs in the past year. Not exactly a comforting thought with a drill stuck in your mouth, vibrating mere inches from your brain. This is why I feel more comfortable drinking with cops, than in a dentist's chair. I'm also suspicious of medical practitioners who like to start really early in the morning. With scrubs and hair disheveled or hidden under their cap it's hard to tell if they just got up or just got in from Doc Watson's. Perhaps we can exam the efficacy of this procedure by consulting with Rosso, who takes great literary delight in regaling us with his orifice explorations. But I think hot wax tails might be more at home in the basement of one of those buildings at 38th Chestnut Sts. Realistically, I think crazy thoughts is as far as most people on this listserv will go, when it comes to inserting things in their heads, fortunately. Ciao, Craig
Re: [UC] Ear candle wax removal treatment
the procedure at all. With claims like a 144 person survey, come on who does a 144 person survey? Did 6 people get sick prior? Were the Read the article again. It wasn't a 144 PATIENT survey, it was a survey of 144 PHYSICIANS -- ear, nose, and throat specialists. The author's source (cited in the article) is a published study by three other medical doctors titled Ear candles--efficacy and safety. The study came to the conclusion that ear candles have no benefit in the management of cerumen [earwax] and may result in serious injury. Here's a link to the cited study on the National Institutes of Health website: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrievedb=PubMedlist_uids=8849790dopt=Abstract Another link -- Health Canada's Ear Candling page, which also cites the study, and warns of No Medical Benefits - but Lots of Risks: http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/iyh-vsv/med/ear-oreille_e.html Not surprisingly, ear candles are illegal in Canada. Then the article continues with at least 14 hurt. What does that mean-- oh wait a minute the following sentence explains it: 13 cases of external burns, 7cases of ear canal obstruction with candle wax, and 1 perforated eardrum. I'm no mathematician, but I thought 13+7+1 equaled 21? Or do they not count ear obstruction as hurt? At least No. Dr. Dryer's article, quoted again: A 1996 survey of 144 ear, nose, and throat physicians, found that 14 had seen patients who had been harmed by ear candling, including at least 13 cases of external burns, 7 cases of ear canal obstruction with candle wax, and 1 perforated eardrum [3]. 14 PHYSICIANS had seen these injuries in one or more of their PATIENTS. People who have been hurt by quack technicians mishandling fragile parts of the body. It's sounds like that quackwatch article was someone (albeit a doctor) who is a quack himself. It doesn't even sound like the doctor even had Herself. The writer is a female physician. I trust her advice -- and the advice of other medical doctors -- on medical issues. Much more than shady websites selling colonic cleansing, or inexplicably angry masseurs wildly cutting-and-pasting attacks against dentists (?) in place of real debate. To the power of the scientific method, Mark You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Ear candle wax removal treatment
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To the power of the scientific method, Mark, To Dan's credit, he did say: I'm no mathematician. You must be some kind of retard not to see the relationship between ear candles, drunk/high dentists and slipping on your neighbors walk. Wake up! Come on - what could go wrong with holding a flaming brand next to your head with one end stuck in your ear. -- Sam Nicolary You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Ear candle wax removal treatment
I just had the wildest ear job: they make this special candle that you stick in your ear and light on fire. Anybody else out there ever try it? Who wants to see how much wax came out? -Lew You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Ear candle wax removal treatment
Lewis Mellman wrote: I just had the wildest ear job: they make this special candle that you stick in your ear and light on fire. Anybody else out there ever try it? Who wants to see how much wax came out? Let me know how it works for constipation. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
